Helen? WTF?

[jet]

She says that women who feel pain in childbirth are dicks and wimps. My wife was in freaking agony, and I've never heard of a pain free birth from any woman. What size of an opening has that women? It must be as as large as the channel tunnel.

[Bedouin]

What on earth??
Weird woman

[the truth]

She says that women who feel pain in childbirth are dicks and wimps. My wife was in freaking agony, and I've never heard of a pain free birth from any woman. What size of an opening has that women? It must be as as large as the channel tunnel.

this was the best thing helen has ever said, because it was honest from her experience. thats not to say all pregnancies are the same but fair play some women have wonderfully smooth pregnancies yet milk the hell out of pregnancy all their lives.

[Jase.]

It was amusing tbh and I don't even like her :joker:

[the truth]

It was amusing tbh and I don't even like her :joker:

agreed

[jet]

this was the best thing helen has ever said, because it was honest from her experience. thats not to say all pregnancies are the same but fair play some women have wonderfully smooth pregnancies yet milk the hell out of pregnancy all their lives.

It was honest from her experience? So she assumes any woman who didn't have the same experience as her and feel no pain (is that even possible?) are dicks. Her lack of empathy is astounding.

[the truth]

It was honest from her experience? So she assumes any woman who didn't have the same experience as her and feel no pain (is that even possible?) are dicks. Her lack of empathy is astounding.

she meant loads of women milk it, you over literal alan partridge of a man:hehe:

[abhorson]

she meant loads of women milk it, you over literal alan partridge of a man:hehe:

That is how i read it.

Even spoken to some women who say that the third just pops out!

[Achilles]

If Kimberly ever gave birth, she would be just lay there with sunglasses on doing her nails asking "shall I open it yet or what? I'm kinda bored now"

[the truth]

That is how i read it.

Even spoken to some women who say that the third just pops out!

very rare to hear anyone be honest about the female experience. the whole feminist propoganda were endlessly fed doesnt even allow us to question some of it or laugh about it, helen said f off to that and i applaud that

[the truth]

If Kimberly ever gave birth, she would be just lay there with sunglasses on doing her nails asking "shall I open it yet or what? I'm kinda bored now"

lol i can just imagine steve with hs bulging kermit eyes would be screaming open it OPEN IT, if you loved me youd open it!!!

[jet]

she meant loads of women milk it, you over literal alan partridge of a man:hehe:

I'm not being over literal. She said woman who feel pain in childbirth are dicks and I can't read something else into her words than what she actually said.

Are there any women on here who had no pain with the birth of their first child in particular? I take umbrage at my wife being considered a dick for having a 20 hour very painful labour.

[jet]

very rare to hear anyone be honest about the female experience. the whole feminist propoganda were endlessly fed doesnt even allow us to question some of it or laugh about it, helen said f off to that and i applaud that

Okay. :shocked:

[the truth]

I'm not being over literal. She said woman who feel pain in childbirth are dicks and I can't read something else into her words than what she actually said.

Are there any women on here who had no pain with the birth of their first child in particular? I take umbrage at my wife being considered a dick for having a 20 hour very painful labour.

wow , what a sad reaction. whilst im sympathetic to anyone who had a hard pregnancy , this wans taimed at every couple on planet earth so get a grip...you really think shes talking about your wife? deary me

[jet]

wow , what a sad reaction. whilst im sympathetic to anyone who had a hard pregnancy , this wans taimed at every couple on planet earth so get a grip...you really think shes talking about your wife? deary me

She made a broad sweeping statement about all women, and my wife and anyone else who has given birth is included in her opinion. So please stop making it personal. Do not start twisting things to include my wife in your feminist rants.

[JTM45]

She probably just spat it out like a half sucked smartie!:laugh:

[Creggle]

Some of these posts are amazing. :laugh3:

[rubymoo]

She has no filter!

She uses words that a lot of people find offensive, but it's an everyday vocabulary for her.

Child birth is painful, but it also depends on your pain thresh hold, my husband stubs his toe and screams the house down, I stub my toe and quietly say ouch!

It doesn't make him a dick or a wimp;)

[user104658]

She probably had a skilled anaesthetist who carried out a perfect epidural (too little and it'll still hurt a lot, too much and the muscles stop contracting properly so you end up with a c-section).

That's literally the only explanation for there being "no pain". she probably just means that she found the pain manageable (and maybe didn't feel the need for drugs at all) whereas some experience a lot more pain. When my first was born, there was a woman in the next room screaming like she was being murdered! I've never heard anything like it. We got quite worried and asked a midwife if there had been a problem, and she said "oh no no, some people are just screamers" :joker:

[Northern Monkey]

I've been in the front seat and seen everything(and i mean everything).It does not look like a pleasant experience at all for woman.I felt proud of my misses after she did that and told her so.Certainly glad i'm not a woman.

[billy123]

LOL at the one real woman hater in the thread.

[HBB1508]

I do have to chuckle at all the guys saying how it's not painful - no sadly the man feels no pain at all if they did the human race would have died out by now!!!!

[JTM45]

Perhaps it's Helen's version of those strapping blokes who refuse to admit that tattoo's really *****ing hurt!
"It was nowt like.......ya have nee finished allredy like, i woz just getting into it":laugh:

[bots]

She probably just spat it out like a half sucked smartie!:laugh:

Post of the day, I spilled my coffee :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[AnnieK]

Everyone's different.....my mum had no pain when she had me....just a bit of niggly back ache and then I was here....

When I had my son, it ****ing hurt a lot, but I'm not a screamer and I didn't have any major pain relief - just gas and air - but I kind of enjoyed it...

[billy123]

Perhaps it's Helen's version of those strapping blokes who refuse to admit that tattoo's really *****ing hurt!
"It was nowt like.......ya have nee finished allredy like, i woz just getting into it":laugh:You might have a point if tattoo's hurt :shrug:

[JTM45]

You might have a point if tattoo's hurt :shrug:

When i had an eagle with a dagger in its beak sitting on a skull done on my eyeball the other day it stung like a mother*****er!!!
Obviously not a fraction of the man you are.:shrug:

[Kizzy]

You might have a point if tattoo's hurt :shrug:

Well to draw a fair comparison have your dick tattooed and tell me if it hurts.

[billy123]

When i had an eagle with a dagger in its beak sitting on a skull done on my eyeball the other day it stung like a mother*****er!!!
Obviously not a fraction of the man you are.:shrug:On your eyeball you say thats nay bad for a southerner. :joker:

[joeysteele]

Look, she has had one child and it was it apearsf rom what she said,for her, an easy birth,so it seems.
She was wrong to generalise as to all births are or should be likely the same for all women,I know from my own family they are not but it is not unusual for births to be very much easier than others.

My Mother for instance, had 4 children,2 of the births were harder than the others,the other was much easier and when she had me, she didn't even know she was having another baby until she was 6 months into it and apparently I was her easiest birth of the lot,a short labour and relatively little pain.

So perhaps Helen should have said, for her, it was a very easy birth and left it at that.

I think as to how she said it, I would have said to her, well good for you but it is not like that for the majority of women,
However I wouldn't crucify her for saying it,it is hardly the crime of the century.
Just as quite honestly I think a lot of things 'all' the housemates say are over analysed as ways to just get at housemates not liked.

[Niamh.]

Look, she has had one child and it was it apearsf rom what she said,for her, an easy birth,so it seems.
She was wrong to generalise as to all births are or should be likely the same for all women,I know from my own family they are not but it is not unusual for births to be very much easier than others.

My Mother for instance, had 4 children,2 of the births were harder than the others,the other was much easier and when she had me, she didn't even know she was having another baby until she was 6 months into it and apparently I was her easiest birth of the lot,a short labour and relatively little pain.

So perhaps Helen should have said, for her, it was a very easy birth and left it at that.

I think as to how she said it, I would have said to her, well good for you but it is not like that for the majority of women,
However I wouldn't crucify her for saying it,it is hardly the crime of the century.
Just as quite honestly I think a lot of things 'all' the housemates say are over analysed as ways to just get at housemates not liked.

Saying the pain is in your head and women who say child birth is hard are knobs was quite insulting and complete BS. Of course it ****ing hurts, even someone who's not had a baby and thinks about what you're actually doing has to appreciate that :conf:

[Northern Monkey]

Every pregnancy and birth is different also.If she has another may be easy again or it may open her eyes a little.

[joeysteele]

Saying the pain is in your head and women who say child birth is hard are knobs was quite insulting and complete BS. Of course it ****ing hurts, even someone who's not had a baby and thinks about what you're actually doing has to appreciate that :conf:

I agree but I have heard some people say Chidlbirth is nothing to fear, as they found it really easy.
I said she was wrong to generalise and that she should have said, for her it was an easy birth and left it at that.
However I do think by now,surely, just about everyone knows that one of Helen's biggest problems is not really thinking before she speaks.

Having said that,My Grandmother always said something that I have unfortunately strayed from as to this subject by even commenting on this on subject on this thread.
It was, 'men should keep quiet as to having children because she was pretty sure that if men had the babies, there would most probably only ever be one per family'.

I think I better shut up now.:joker:

[Ellen]

Did she say all women who feel pain in childbirth are d**ks?
I thought she said hers was relatively pain free but those who dont do as they are told and dont listen are d**ks because it makes it worse.

[Kizzy]

She was young and maybe pretty out of it, perhaps she doesn't remember much?

[Niamh.]

Did she say all women who feel pain in childbirth are d**ks?
I thought she said hers was relatively pain free but those who dont do as they are told and dont listen are d**ks because it makes it worse.

She said that and she also called women who said it was painful knobs iirc (although I could be wrong on that)

[Kizzy]

Ah right, so she's being judged on something she may not have said and the bit she did say has been taken out of context.

[Niamh.]

Ah right, so she's being judged on something she may not have said and the bit she did say has been taken out of context.

I watched the show last night and that's what I heard :shrug: I only watched it the one time hence why I added that I couldn't be 100% sure of her exact words, for fairness sake. I was pretty sure that she used the word "knobs" though when talking about other womens child birth experiences, which, in no matter what context, is rude and ignorant, no two women will have the same experience and no two births are the same

[rusticgal]

Helen just doesn't show any respect...:shrug:

[Ellen]

She said that and she also called women who said it was painful knobs iirc (although I could be wrong on that)

In the convo though i think she was talking about women who dont listen or do as they are told and make it worse, that is the way i understood it, could be wrong though.

[billy123]

Well to draw a fair comparison have your dick tattooed and tell me if it hurts.Stop thinking about my dick you perv http://operationgaga.com/public/style_emoticons/default/perv.gif

[Niamh.]

In the convo though i think she was talking about women who dont listen or do as they are told and make it worse, that is the way i understood it, could be wrong though.

I'll definitely listen to it again, even saying that though, how does she think she knows that about what other women do and don't do? She's had one child, does she make a habit out of sitting in on other peoples births to see whether they do as they're told or not? :laugh:

[Kizzy]

I watched the show last night and that's what I heard :shrug: I only watched it the one time hence why I added that I couldn't be 100% sure of her exact words, for fairness sake. I was pretty sure that she used the word "knobs" though when talking about other womens child birth experiences, which, in no matter what context, is rude and ignorant, no two women will have the same experience and no two births are the same

She says knobs in most conversations tbf I doubt it was an intentional slur on anyones experience.

[lostalex]

i've heard some women even claim to have an orgasm during child birth.

[Ellen]

I'll definitely listen to it again, even saying that though, how does she think she knows that about what other women do and don't do? She's had one child, does she make a habit out of sitting in on other peoples births to see whether they do as they're told or not? :laugh:

Probably watches too much of One Born Every Minute :joker:

[Niamh.]

i've heard some women even claim to have an orgasm during child birth.

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[Kazanne]

She says that women who feel pain in childbirth are dicks and wimps. My wife was in freaking agony, and I've never heard of a pain free birth from any woman. What size of an opening has that women? It must be as as large as the channel tunnel.

maybe it was easy for. Helen,can't say it was for me,but I don't feel it,s anything to hate her for though,but good try :hehe:

[Babschap]

She is an idiot. No sense no feeling.

[Mrjrb2014]

Easy for a being as vile as her to say....