BB's heavily manipulated and edited redemption storyline...

[bbfan1991]

I shudder if people have actually fallen for it:o.

Winston's mask is slowly slipping too in terms of his dumb act, fair play to him for playing the game and wanting to win though.

[rosie1991]

I shudder if people have actually fallen for it:o.

Winston's mask is slowly slipping too in terms of his dumb act, fair play to him for playing the game and wanting to win though.

Unfortunately folks will always fall for the good edits concerning certain housemates.

That's BB 2014 for you.

[Creggle]

Magnetmite is so cute. <3

[Northern Monkey]

Yeah she's still a *****.

[LukeB]

bb cant edit helens actions

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Other housemates have said she has changed though, cant really edit that unless they dub the words coming out of their mouths like a cheap Japanese film.

[mrflibble]

I'm really peed off about this Helen redemption thing. I can't believe people are falling for it. I'm fine with people liking Helen, but buying the blatant manipulation from BB? Nope. My mum thinks Helen is amazing now and although she loved Chris at the start has decided he's creepy.. she just falls for whatever they throw at her. You need to read between the lines people :(

For me, it's like this; the Helen that entered the house is the real Helen. She went in as an aggressive animal to take 'top dog' of the house. Teared the weak ones down, drew the stronger ones to her... and it wasn't until BB warned her that she began to calm down, and as people she didn't like or couldn't control got evicted, she didn't need to do it anymore because she is now the ruler. It's a bit of a shame that Chris, Christopher and possibly Ashleigh have gotten close to her, but I think it was inevitable due to the small number of housemates. I think she does have a good side (everyone does) and that's coming out now that she doesn't need to attack, but she's still that horrible person that entered and she keeps rearing her head every now and then.

This is the first time I've watched BB and been actively involved in a BB community, reading news/Facebook/Twitter etc, and I can't believe how quickly the majority will swap their opinions for the latest edit.

[bbfan1991]

Other housemates have said she has changed though, cant really edit that unless they dub the words coming out of their mouths like a cheap Japanese film.

That is true since they have lived with her, but we're entitled to our opinions too because ALL the housemates are vying for the public to love them.

[rosie1991]

I'm really peed off about this Helen redemption thing. I can't believe people are falling for it. I'm fine with people liking Helen, but buying the blatant manipulation from BB? Nope. My mum thinks Helen is amazing now and although she loved Chris at the start has decided he's creepy.. she just falls for whatever they throw at her. You need to read between the lines people :(

For me, it's like this; the Helen that entered the house is the real Helen. She went in as an aggressive animal to take 'top dog' of the house. Teared the weak ones down, drew the stronger ones to her... and it wasn't until BB warned her that she began to calm down, and as people she didn't like or couldn't control got evicted, she didn't need to do it anymore because she is now the ruler. It's a bit of a shame that Chris, Christopher and possibly Ashleigh have gotten close to her, but I think it was inevitable due to the small number of housemates. I think she does have a good side (everyone does) and that's coming out now that she doesn't need to attack, but she's still that horrible person that entered and she keeps rearing her head every now and then.

This is the first time I've watched BB and been actively involved in a BB community, reading news/Facebook/Twitter etc, and I can't believe how quickly the majority will swap their opinions for the latest edit.

I couldn't agree more. I despair.

[poppsywoppsy]

I'm really peed off about this Helen redemption thing. I can't believe people are falling for it. I'm fine with people liking Helen, but buying the blatant manipulation from BB? Nope. My mum thinks Helen is amazing now and although she loved Chris at the start has decided he's creepy.. she just falls for whatever they throw at her. You need to read between the lines people :(

This is the first time I've watched BB and been actively involved in a BB community, reading news/Facebook/Twitter etc, and I can't believe how quickly the majority will swap their opinions for the latest edit.

I, too am quite amazed that some viewers have fallen for Helens supposed redemption. She shouldn't have needed one in the first place, but she attacked, bullied and swore her way through the earlier weeks without empathy for anyone.

Her get out of jail card of holding her hands up and admitting her faults also lets her off the hook as she them doesn't get told that she is such a nasty bitch. She should be glad people don't say it to her face as she seems to think is the best way or she would have ejected in double quick time.

Now, she has the house, more or less how she wants it, she has calmed down, but those who think she is being hard done by, by having the public tell her what she doesn't want to hear, well it has been a long time coming.

She is still nasty underneath her calmer persona, I hope things go very wrong for her only to show those who say she has changed that the new Helen is only skin deep, the previous Helen was her real personality and she can turn in a second. You don't lose that ingrained nastiness in a few weeks.

[Kazanne]

I shudder if people have actually fallen for it:o.

Winston's mask is slowly slipping too in terms of his dumb act, fair play to him for playing the game and wanting to win though.

You shudder away then,I like Helen,disliked her at the beginning but SHE has won me round nothing to do with BB , infact if I listened to them I'de still be disliking her.

[Jamesy]

They can still edit sections out of times of the day though.

We see "she has changed now". The real conversation goes "she has changed now... although I still think she's horrible" etc.. the beauty of editing.

It's like the diary room conversations. When the camera cuts to the door outside, that's just a clip to break out the conversation in the diary room so they can only show us certain things people have said and not the full thing.

Easy way to manipulate an audience, moreso without live feed.

[Kazanne]

Unfortunately folks will always fall for the good edits concerning certain housemates.

That's BB 2014 for you.

Yes ,I've noticed this but certainly not from Helen fans:hehe:

[LukeB]

if helen never bullied anyone or been agressive she would of had a great chance of winning

[Ellen]

You shudder away then,I like Helen,disliked her at the beginning but SHE has won me round nothing to do with BB , infact if I listened to them I'de still be disliking her.

This ^^:thumbs:

[VanessaFeltz.]

Helen for win!

[Northern Monkey]

They can still edit sections out of times of the day though.

We see "she has changed now". The real conversation goes "she has changed now... although I still think she's horrible" etc.. the beauty of editing.

It's like the diary room conversations. When the camera cuts to the door outside, that's just a clip to break out the conversation in the diary room so they can only show us certain things people have said and not the full thing.

Easy way to manipulate an audience, moreso without live feed.

Exactly:thumbs:

[rusticgal]

I'm really peed off about this Helen redemption thing. I can't believe people are falling for it. I'm fine with people liking Helen, but buying the blatant manipulation from BB? Nope. My mum thinks Helen is amazing now and although she loved Chris at the start has decided he's creepy.. she just falls for whatever they throw at her. You need to read between the lines people :(

For me, it's like this; the Helen that entered the house is the real Helen. She went in as an aggressive animal to take 'top dog' of the house. Teared the weak ones down, drew the stronger ones to her... and it wasn't until BB warned her that she began to calm down, and as people she didn't like or couldn't control got evicted, she didn't need to do it anymore because she is now the ruler. It's a bit of a shame that Chris, Christopher and possibly Ashleigh have gotten close to her, but I think it was inevitable due to the small number of housemates. I think she does have a good side (everyone does) and that's coming out now that she doesn't need to attack, but she's still that horrible person that entered and she keeps rearing her head every now and then.

This is the first time I've watched BB and been actively involved in a BB community, reading news/Facebook/Twitter etc, and I can't believe how quickly the majority will swap their opinions for the latest edit.


I haven't fallen for it...no one changes overnight...Helen will leave the house the same vile person she came in....no journey rubbish for me.

[LukeB]

Helen for win!

she not going to win

#bulliesneverwin

[Tip]

I think she has changed at least in some ways.

I'm pretty sure she'd have never said to a fellow HM that she is nice to people even if she "doesn't like them because it's easier" in the first few weeks. Time and experience can indeed change how people behave. Whether changes to behaviour mean that anything substantial has changed in her character is debatable of course.

Whether that means that she'd never treat people how she did when she first went in the house, I don't know. I don't know if she ever treated people that way outside of the house anyway - or if it was an odd blip in her normal character due to it being BB.

I have opinions on it, but I don't actually know or care too much. I'm just glad not to be seeing her old behaviour.

[Kazanne]

I'm truly AMAZED that people are so closeminded to think people should suffer such grief and malice for something that went on in her past,Helen sold her body,Ashleigh flaunts herself like a piece of meat,Helen has been nasty,so has Ashleigh,both are potty mouthed,both are bitchy,both speak to each other now,so why the venom against helen

[LukeB]

I'm truly AMAZED that people are so closeminded to think people should suffer such grief and malice for something that went on in her past,Helen sold her body,Ashleigh flaunts herself like a piece of meat,Helen has been nasty,so has Ashleigh,both are potty mouthed,both are bitchy,both speak to each other now,so why the venom against helen

difference is helen bullied ashleigh just bitched like most people do :hehe:

no one likes a bully, bullies are scums

[bots]

I'm truly AMAZED that people are so closeminded to think people should suffer such grief and malice for something that went on in her past,Helen sold her body,Ashleigh flaunts herself like a piece of meat,Helen has been nasty,so has Ashleigh,both are potty mouthed,both are bitchy,both speak to each other now,so why the venom against helen

Absolutely agree. The haters on both sides are making up complete distortions of reality now. I couldn't give a flying fig what Helen did a few years ago, and I'm certainly not going to sit in judgement of her, they should perhaps be looking more inward to their own behaviour. It sure isn't pretty.

[Kazanne]

she not going to win

#bulliesneverwin

Hush with the bully card now,it's been overplayed

[LukeB]

Hush with the bully card now,it's been overplayed

not really :)
truth hurts

[Ellen]

Hush with the bully card now,it's been overplayed

Exactly, same old same old :thumbs:

[LukeB]

Exactly, same old same old :thumbs:

doen't excuse the fact she is a bully

[mrflibble]

Hush with the bully card now,it's been overplayed
Like with the creepy card for Chris? :whistle:

Except that she did bully people :P

[Kazanne]

not really :)
truth hurts

It doesn't hurt me:laugh: why would it,it's just a bit tedious tbh.

[LukeB]

It doesn't hurt me:laugh: why would it,it's just a bit tedious tbh.

facts are never tedious :flutter:

[LukeB]

Like with the creepy card for Chris? :whistle:

Except that she did bully people :P

this.

[rubymoo]

I think Helen has just calmed down, there's no need for her to get so aggressive as they all know where they are in the pecking order.

I am warming to her, but she certainly wouldn't be someone i'd be friends with!

It's what the shows about...putting different people from different backgrounds together, i'm sure in a million years that Helen and Ashleigh would never be friends which is why there was conflict, there is no redemption, Helen is Helen!

[Tip]

Tbh I think it's only her previous behaviour that keeps people interested in her now.

If she had been as she is now all along - well, she's not the most entertaining or interesting of HMs except for the comparison with how she behaved previously in my view.

[rubymoo]

Tbh I think it's only her previous behaviour that keeps people interested in her now.

If she had been as she is now all along - well, she's not the most entertaining or interesting of HMs except for the comparison with how she behaved previously in my view.

I agree!

She's been very boring, as have all the others really.

[Kazanne]

facts are never tedious :flutter:

So,right now that's sorted.tell me what you wouldn't before,When did Ashleigh stand up to Helen? only facts now mind.

[LukeB]

So,right now that's sorted.tell me what you wouldn't before,When did Ashleigh stand up to Helen? only facts now mind.

PvNzmoX7qFY

did she walk off no?
did she run off and cry? no
she didnt back down. like to thank the focus group for pointing ashleigh won by no backing down :cheer2:

helen and kimberly was so school playground kids on this video

[Marsh.]

It's obvious Helen has calmed down the last few weeks hence her getting along better with people like Ashleigh.

So where is this edit trying to manipulate and give her redemption? If she spent 6 weeks going full energy and now she can't be arsed then there isn't much else they can show other than calm Helen.

[bbfan1991]

I think Helen has just calmed down, there's no need for her to get so aggressive as they all know where they are in the pecking order.

I am warming to her, but she certainly wouldn't be someone i'd be friends with!

It's what the shows about...putting different people from different backgrounds together, i'm sure in a million years that Helen and Ashleigh would never be friends which is why there was conflict, there is no redemption, Helen is Helen!

Helen has calmed down because she's been warned before and she obviously wants to win the public over, she's just as desperate as the others to win the show. If anything it's just upping the tactics up!

[Patricia4]

I didn't like Helen at the beginning and don't like her now she only changed when she knew she was going through the door if she put a foot wrong Im not fooled by her.
To be honest I cant pick a winner this time there isn't one that deserves the title.
Mark was the best for a laugh but then became very false so goodness know's who will win for me just share the money out between them and roll on the next BB.

[LukeB]

Helen has calmed down because she's been warned before and she obviously wants to win the public over, she's just as desperate as the others to win the show. If anything it's just upping the tactics up!

:clap1: as i said no one likes a bully, a bully will never win big brother. she would be gone by now if it wasnt for that pass

[Kazanne]

PvNzmoX7qFY

did she walk off no?
did she run off and cry? no
she didnt back down. like to thank the focus group for pointing ashleigh won by no backing down :cheer2:

helen and kimberly was so school playground kids on this video

:joker::joker::joker: she said nowt ,just sucked her teddy,but ok just to appease you,she didn't move,but she did run off to Chris after:hehe:

[Kazanne]

:clap1: as i said no one likes a bully, a bully will never win big brother. she would be gone by now if it wasnt for that pass

No she wouldn't ,IF BB thought Helen had bullied as bad as you are making out ,she'de have been ejected,Fact,

[LukeB]

:joker::joker::joker: she said nowt ,just sucked her teddy,but ok just to appease you,she didn't move,but she did run off to Chris after:hehe:

:laugh3: you watching a different clip?
are you ok?
she said are thats nice, she didnt let helen speak :hehe:
she didnt run off the video just edited to where mark and winston stuck up for ashleigh because helen was trying to bully ashleigh but it didnt work.
ashleigh didnt just sit there.

[LukeB]

No she wouldn't ,IF BB thought Helen had bullied as bad as you are making out ,she'de have been ejected,Fact,

formal warning just saying
and yes she would people would evict her
not many like helen i see more hate for helen

[Marsh.]

She didn't let Helen speak? :laugh3:

[LukeB]

She didn't let Helen speak? :laugh3:

she was talking over helen ....good on ashleigh, she didnt let that bully scum get to her
there is a reason why many prefer ashleigh to helen :hehe:

[Patricia4]

Ashleigh was good in that clip Helen and Kim were nasty and Im not a fan of Ashleigh.

[LukeB]

Ashleigh was good in that clip Helen and Kim were nasty and Im not a fan of Ashleigh.

you know this

[Marc]

Maybe she'll win :hehe:

[LukeB]

Maybe she'll win :hehe:

who? helen or ashslay?

[Marsh.]

she was talking over helen ....good on ashleigh, she didnt let that bully scum get to her
there is a reason why many prefer ashleigh to helen :hehe:

Talking over her? Or mumbling and going red in the face?

Either way it didn't shut Helen up or put Helen in her place did it? :laugh:

[LukeB]

Talking over her? Or mumbling and going red in the face?

Either way it didn't shut Helen up or put Helen in her place did it? :laugh:

she wasnt mumbling i heard every word:hehe:

[Marsh.]

she wasnt mumbling i heard every word:hehe:

We all did "I'm onlay ate teen".