Latest odds !!! looking good folks !!

[Miranda123]

hmmmm Buck house has a big garden :pipe2:

you got me!

HRH

[jet]

I just think its very sad

It is. You shouldn't let curiosity affect you like that. :pat:

[Miranda123]

I know! I saw that :fist:

where was this shown

I would think that quite funny actually, as all my relatives are married to relations, its an Irish thing, same as India and many tribal nations, its what we do

I shamed my family by marrying my hunky englishman, but my Mum got over it when he decorated her frontroom and hallway a week after they met............lol

People say sh.t, I do it all the time, so does Ashleigh, Helens turnaround has been great and her winning would be an amazing end to the Show (whether you love or hate her)

[sampvt]

where was this shown

I would think that quite funny actually, as all my relatives are married to relations, its an Irish thing, same as India and many tribal nations, its what we do

I shamed my family by marrying my hunky englishman, but my Mum got over it when he decorated her frontroom and hallway a week after they met............lol

People say sh.t, I do it all the time, so does Ashleigh, Helens turnaround has been great and her winning would be an amazing end to the Show (whether you love or hate her)


Mine was the other way round, my wife married a hunky Irishman, but I told her mother I was a gynaecologist, instead of a professional golfer. She didn't believe me so I decorated her hallway through the letterbox, lol. She loves me now, lol.

[Johnnyuk123]

very sad to see helens odds shortening - shows what sort of things we like to see.

Helen's odd are now drifting. :laugh:

[Niamh.]

where was this shown

I would think that quite funny actually, as all my relatives are married to relations, its an Irish thing, same as India and many tribal nations, its what we do

I shamed my family by marrying my hunky englishman, but my Mum got over it when he decorated her frontroom and hallway a week after they met............lol

People say sh.t, I do it all the time, so does Ashleigh, Helens turnaround has been great and her winning would be an amazing end to the Show (whether you love or hate her)

Helen said it on her Twitter and I don't know where the **** in Ireland you're from but it's certainly not the done thing to marry you're relations over here :umm2:

[warrenhill]

All the money today has been for ASHLEIGH.....:spin:

[Amy Jade]

I don't mind who wins BB anymore, I don't think I have agreed with a winner since Sophie Reade! (not counting CBB) I know who has entertained me the most and gone on the biggest journey.

[Forgetmenot]

I love this and also ashliegh odds are slightly shortening but it our votes that count please vote the helen to win

Not voted for weeks but I will vote for Helen. Really like her, most honest HM.
Listen to Ashleigh now, seems its Helens fault she was bullied at school. So sick of her whining voice.Go Helen, you are great.
Ashleigh is complaining about Helen speaking over every one but She is doing it herself, what a silly venomous person

[Christmas time]

Ashleys coming across really well tonight...... NOT... GET THE BRAT OUT NOW

[Christmas time]

Keep it up helen your coming across much better than the brat....

TEAM HELEN
:dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:: dance:

:dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:: dance:

[MrWong]

Helen finally gets it.

She's never going to be able to control Ashleigh.

[serensilver]

Ashleys coming across really well tonight...... NOT... GET THE BRAT OUT NOW

:worship::fc::banana:

[waterhog]

love ashligh = helen may now get it but little to late and she still wont learn. sorry melon.

[Jordan.]

Ashleys coming across really well tonight...... NOT... GET THE BRAT OUT NOW

you can't get anyone out it's a vote to win hun

[kistar]

What a great edit for Ashleigh tonight.

[kistar]

Ashleys coming across really well tonight...... NOT... GET THE BRAT OUT NOW

Yeah call the vote line for Ashleigh :dance:

[Denver]

What a great edit for Ashleigh tonight.

So bitching constantly about someone = good edit

[MB.]

So bitching constantly about someone = good edit

Hey, it seems to have worked for Helen :thumbs:

[user104658]

Helen's odd are now drifting. :laugh:

Where are you looking? Helen's shortest odds are 11/2... which is the lowest I've seen them so far.

[Denver]

Hey, it seems to have worked for Helen :thumbs:

Helen was relaxed im 99%sure ashliegh fancies helen

[Miranda123]

Mine was the other way round, my wife married a hunky Irishman, but I told her mother I was a gynaecologist, instead of a professional golfer. She didn't believe me so I decorated her hallway through the letterbox, lol. She loves me now, lol.

that jokes older than me Sam lol

Keep voting folks

HELEN TO WIN!!

[Miranda123]

Helen was relaxed im 99%sure ashliegh fancies helen

maybe thats it lol

She certainly has a lot to learn, from grown ups

HELEN TO WIN!

[Miranda123]

Hey, it seems to have worked for Helen :thumbs:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz old news

[Miranda123]

Not voted for weeks but I will vote for Helen. Really like her, most honest HM.
Listen to Ashleigh now, seems its Helens fault she was bullied at school. So sick of her whining voice.Go Helen, you are great.
Ashleigh is complaining about Helen speaking over every one but She is doing it herself, what a silly venomous person

Good one, thanks

She will benefit from the win more than anyone

we are getting there folks, keep going!!!!!!!!

[bots]

The voting lines are going to go crazy if Ashleigh and Helen make it to the top 3, and that's looking quite possible at the moment

[Mystic Mock]

Helen was relaxed im 99%sure ashliegh fancies helen

When she licked her lips when Helen and Biannca were stripping off during Armageddon week I wouldn't be surprised lol.

Hey they might fancy each other in a BDSM sort of way.

[Denver]

Helen is now 5/1 with a few bookies keep voting people this is acheivable

[chuff me dizzy]

Wow this is brilliant ,Ashleighs price is not the price of a certainty, you would expect it to be minimum 1-10 and more Helens catching ,Come on Helen girl you can do this !! threw another 4 votes her way

[Vanessa]

Looking good for Helen. Hope she makes the top three. :lovedup:

[Denver]

Ashliegh is also starting to drift

[Samm]

Ashleigh staying on top :love:

[Niamh.]

This FB post made me laugh :hehe:

Shauna Mc Mahon Think all Man U and Colleen Rooney fans should vote Ashleigh to win

[chuff me dizzy]

This FB post made me laugh :hehe:

Shauna Mc Mahon Think all Man U and Colleen Rooney fans should vote Ashleigh to win

How desperate do they look ? :joker:

[Niamh.]

How desperate do they look ? :joker:

I thought it was quite funny :hehe:

[Amy Jade]

This FB post made me laugh :hehe:

Shauna Mc Mahon Think all Man U and Colleen Rooney fans should vote Ashleigh to win
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ba-MJ26EF_k/UAON5BZAMuI/AAAAAAAAAXA/3_3aiSt4Q_I/s320/laurenconrad.gif

[Niamh.]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ba-MJ26EF_k/UAON5BZAMuI/AAAAAAAAAXA/3_3aiSt4Q_I/s320/laurenconrad.gif

http://i.imgur.com/II2VpFI.gif

[Amy Jade]

http://i.imgur.com/II2VpFI.gif

Heathers <3

[Niamh.]

Heathers <3

The original (and better) Mean Girls <3

[Kizzy]

This FB post made me laugh :hehe:

Shauna Mc Mahon Think all Man U and Colleen Rooney fans should vote Ashleigh to win

Pathetic.

[Niamh.]

Pathetic.

:omg:

[chuff me dizzy]

:omg:

Come on girl you've got to admit it IS pathetic ?

[bots]

This FB post made me laugh :hehe:

Shauna Mc Mahon Think all Man U and Colleen Rooney fans should vote Ashleigh to win

Which means that every other team and their supporters will be voting for Helen :dance::dance::dance:

[serensilver]

Helen says sorry to Ashleigh tonight and looks like she means it. Will only go in her favour. :dance: Come on Helen! None of those housemates are expecting Helen to win big brother says expect the unexpected!:cheer2:

[Niamh.]

Come on girl you've got to admit it IS pathetic ?

I took it as a tongue in cheek sort of a comment which is why I thought it was funny, I'm sure the person who posted it doesn't really think alot of football fans watch Big Brother :hehe:

[Amy Jade]

The original (and better) Mean Girls <3

So much better, Heather Chandler makes Regina George look like a pussycat.

[chuff me dizzy]

I took it as a tongue in cheek sort of a comment which is why I thought it was funny, I'm sure the person who posted it doesn't really think alot of football fans watch Big Brother :hehe:

I thought for a minute you were being serious that we could think it was pathetic :joker:

[Niamh.]

So much better, Heather Chandler makes Regina George look like a pussycat.

I knew that film off by heart when I was a teenager......I had a bit of an obsession with Christian Slater back then :hehe:

[Patricia4]

Come on Chris and Ashleigh :dance:

[kefln]

I knew that film off by heart when I was a teenager......I had a bit of an obsession with Christian Slater back then :hehe:
My wife loved Andrew McCarthy, still does, she had a whole John Hughes thing going on :D

I don't think I was that specific, although I had a soft spot for Danica McKellar.

[kefln]

Come on Chris and Ashleigh :dance:
Would be my dream 1-2, don't see it happening though :(

[Vanessa]

I can see Ashleigh and Helen final two. :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

4/1 now at Betfred :joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Denver]

:cheer2: 4/1 now at Betfred :joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

:cheer2:

To think i got 25-1 on monday !! timing eh Adam ? :dance:

[Samm]

Didn't you say that odds don't matter :pat:

[JoshBB]

To think i got 25-1 on monday !! timing eh Adam ? :dance:

Lucky bitch! Just gotta hope she wins now, Helen all the way! :cheer2:

[Denver]

To think i got 25-1 on monday !! timing eh Adam ? :dance:

I didnt bet as my money has been going on voting Queen Helen

[chuff me dizzy]

I didnt bet as my money has been going on voting Queen Helen

Im voting too

[Denver]

Im voting too

But more money means more votes :cheer2::dance:

[serensilver]

From Tellymix.co.uk

Big Brother 2014: Helen Wood's odds of winning cut ahead of final.


http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big-brother/192732-big-brother-2014-helen-woods-odds-of-winning-cut-ahead-of-final.html


:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::c heer2::cheer2::cheer2:

[warrenhill]

Helens odds have come down but they have only cut Ashleigh from 4/7 to 8/13...


To be honest i would hate to see Helen win after whoring herself with footballers etc....

[sampvt]

Helen and Ash making big strides towards the post while Chris and Pav are out with the washing and Dermaglen Dottie and Rubber gums Christopher are sliding backwards. Its like a horse race and we are in the final furlong with the 2 leaders tiring and the 2 outsiders snapping at their heels, lol. Come on Ash my son.

[Denver]

Helens odds have come down but they have only cut Ashleigh from 4/7 to 8/13...


To be honest i would hate to see Helen win after whoring herself with footballers etc....

What she does outside of big brother isnt the viewers buisness and shouldnt effect her winning

[Miranda123]

I didnt bet as my money has been going on voting Queen Helen

Mine too, my hubby is pissed that he didnt vote for her to win ages ago cause when she got the free pass he was gonna do it and I was saying, dont waste youre money, she's a cow, she cant win lol

the only time he takes notice of me and this happens...........lol

Id rather lose a thousand pound bet though, if it means her winning

I cant wait to see her face while she sits in the house alone at the end!!!

[Miranda123]

What she does outside of big brother isnt the viewers buisness and shouldnt effect her winning

no it shouldnt and outdated attitudes to women shouldnt be an issue either

I think Arthur Ashe said

"Start where you are, Use what you have, do what you can"

Thats our girl!

HELEN TO WIN!!

[Miranda123]

Helen and Ash making big strides towards the post while Chris and Pav are out with the washing and Dermaglen Dottie and Rubber gums Christopher are sliding backwards. Its like a horse race and we are in the final furlong with the 2 leaders tiring and the 2 outsiders snapping at their heels, lol. Come on Ash my son.

you paint a very pretty picture Sam lol

HELEN TO WIN! ASH 2ND!

p.s. love the dermaglen dottie tag lol

[Josy]

Christopher has had 80% of the bets for him in the last 24 hours (I posted a thread)

The info is from a William hill spokesperson they said this about Helen...

Helen Wood too has seen an increase in popularity as it looks like she could come in a very respectable third place.

[Niamh.]

Mine too, my hubby is pissed that he didnt vote for her to win ages ago cause when she got the free pass he was gonna do it and I was saying, dont waste youre money, she's a cow, she cant win lol

the only time he takes notice of me and this happens...........lol

Id rather lose a thousand pound bet though, if it means her winning

I cant wait to see her face while she sits in the house alone at the end!!!

Really? **** that I'd take the grand over any of them winning :hehe:

[VanessaFeltz.]

Ashleigh, Pav, Chris and Christopher are drifting ash and helen are shortening

[AarynGriesfan]

Really? **** that I'd take the grand over any of them winning :hehe:

Yeah as big of an Ashleigh fan as I am I would easily take a grand over her winning. It's just a tv show after all.

[Niamh.]

Yeah as big of an Ashleigh fan as I am I would easily take a grand over her winning. It's just a tv show after all.

I'd then donate it all to charity of course :smug:

[Miranda123]

Christopher has had 80% of the bets for him in the last 24 hours (I posted a thread)

The info is from a William hill spokesperson they said this about Helen...

I think that will change after tonights show

cant understand the Christopher thing at all, he's behaved like a bitch these last few days

[Miranda123]

I'd then donate it all to charity of course :smug:

and I was just gonna call you a mercenary Niamh lol

I would literally hand over a grand now if it meant Helen would win, thats how wrapped up I am this year, after saying I would have nothing to do with Big Brother anymore......lol

[sampvt]

I'd then donate it all to charity of course :smug:

Keep taking the tablets petal.

[Cal.]

Come on Helen, need her odds to get better again!

[chuff me dizzy]

Jesus ,she's now 7-2 in a couple of places, :dance::dance::dance::dance:

[Vanessa]

Jesus ,she's now 7-2 in a couple of places, :dance::dance::dance::dance:

:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

[chuff me dizzy]

Shortening nearly everywhere while Ashleighs drifting ,Come on girl !!!!!!! :cheer2::cheer2:

[serensilver]

:dance:HELEN TO WIN:dance:

:cheer2:COME ON HELEN :cheer2:

[Samm]

Some of Ashleigh's odds are Shortening :clap1:

[user104658]

I'm now starting to think that there's a half decent chance of this bet coming in, I'm going to be gutted tomorrow if / when she doesn't win. I want to buy a PS4. :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

Some of Ashleigh's odds are Shortening :clap1:

3 out of 10 ,Helen has 8 out of 10 !!!

[mitch_3]

Ofcourse her odds are shortening, It's not like they were able to drift more compared to a week ago, while Ashleigh was bound to drift after being that High for so long.

[Mystic Mock]

Helen's about to snatch the blonde beauty's crown.

Come on Helen to win!

[Samm]

Ashleigh on 1/2 on betfair :clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

2nd fav now in 3 places !!! :cheer2::cheer2:

[chuff me dizzy]

Ofcourse her odds are shortening, It's not like they were able to drift more compared to a week ago, while Ashleigh was bound to drift after being that High for so long.

Ashlieghs odds to say she is fav are dire

[Samm]

All of Ashleigh's odds have shortened :clap1:

[LukeB]

Helen odds are drifting

[Denver]

Helen odds are drifting

She is drifting with 5 bookies and shortening with 5 bookies

[kefln]

She is drifting with 5 bookies and shortening with 5 bookies
Thats because the Bookies started to shorten her odds to entice more spending. If there is a firm favourite, then fewer people bet. Poor odds, less reward for the average punter. Shorting the odds of another HM in the final week encourages spending and evens the spread.

Its all down to how much the bookies are willing to push the matter. They are there to make money. The more bets placed, across the board, maximises profit. But push it too far and a curve ball result would be costly.

[Achilles]

Most popular bets

Ashleigh 25.89%
Christopher 14.66%
Mark 12.99%
Winston 12.97%
Chris 12.33%
The other 14 housemates 21.15%

[Achilles]

If there are no bets placed on a housemate for 9 weeks, then the vast majority of bets are made final week, the odds WILL drop because they have to drop.
The people who made bets and intended to vote for the housemates they bet on are not going to change their mind.
I was considering making a bet on Ash weeks ago when he was 30/1, but I would not have voted for him. There will be others who HAVE done what I was going to do.

[chuff me dizzy]

3-1 in some places now, clear 2nd fav across the board !!

[chuff me dizzy]

If there are no bets placed on a housemate for 9 weeks, then the vast majority of bets are made final week, the odds WILL drop because they have to drop.
The people who made bets and intended to vote for the housemates they bet on are not going to change their mind.
I was considering making a bet on Ash weeks ago when he was 30/1, but I would not have voted for him. There will be others who HAVE done what I was going to do.

You keep telling yourself that sunbeam if it makes you happy :pat:

[Miranda123]

Jesus ,she's now 7-2 in a couple of places, :dance::dance::dance::dance:

Come on Helen!!!!

HELEN TO WIN!!

We are getting her there guys, just get ready for that final push tonight, after every exit, keep voting for Helen against whoever she's left in with, do not split your votes,. I think Ash will be fine, he has a lot of people out there who dont like either Helen or Ashleigh to vote for him, lets get our girl to the top spot and hopefully Ash will come second

DONT STOP BELIEVING!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep voting pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Samm]

Ashleigh is killing the odds :clap1:

[Miranda123]

If there are no bets placed on a housemate for 9 weeks, then the vast majority of bets are made final week, the odds WILL drop because they have to drop.
The people who made bets and intended to vote for the housemates they bet on are not going to change their mind.
I was considering making a bet on Ash weeks ago when he was 30/1, but I would not have voted for him. There will be others who HAVE done what I was going to do.

Heartening as it is to see the odds shortening for Helen, it isnt everything

As we know Matthew was fave to stay with the bookies - we booted his ass
Toya was fave to stay with the bookies - we booted her skanky ass
Winston was always in top 3 with bookies - Ashleighs bitter fans booted his ass

Dont rely completely on the odds, nice as it is to see, it all comes down to transferring that to votes, and we all know how helpful BB are in opening and closing lines on the night to give us a better chance with our fave

What I do believe, is that Helen has had a major turnaround with the public, and the GBP love a redemption story, rather than the story of a little beauty queen whose never had to work a day in her life and has been spoiled rotten by her family. (Nothing wrong with that, but it isnt what the GBP want)

On the other hand - a girl whose life has been ****, some of it her own fault as she admits, has been in foster care, pregnant at 16, the man f.cked off, got a job as a clerk, worked hard, made another mistake (huge) and has spent a lot of time paying for it (being beaten up in pubs/street etc) and has now shown us the soft underbelly of her character after fighting her emotions to keep the hard surface that she wants people to see to protect herself.

Its also obvious that even though Helen went back to school to get GCSE's, she is not the brightest in the house (academically speaking), and that partly her arguing is frustration at not being able to deal with things logically when she is upset

She is a typical underdog, and as such, deserves the GBP's support

So lets not give it to the girl who has everything (not her fault I know)
Lets give it to the girl who has worked hard to get her own business (and yes, sleeping with men you dont want to sleep with must be very hard) and provide a decent life for her son

VOTE FOR HELEN FOR A FAIRYTALE ENDING!!!

[Miranda123]

Ashleigh is killing the odds :clap1:

See my post, odds arent everything, but we are gonna slay that bitches ass tonight lol

HELEN TO WIN!!!

[Niamh.]

fgs Miranda she's just finished school :/

" rather than the story of a little beauty queen whose never had to work a day in her life "

[Achilles]

fgs Miranda she's just finished school :/

" rather than the story of a little beauty queen whose never had to work a day in her life "

The Ashleigh haters don't even know anything about her.
She works in a clothes shop and does modelling in her free time.
She is a fund raiser for a animal charity.
She does support groups for girls with low self esteem, obviously this is related to her own experiences of being bullied.
She has been accused of being a "daddy's girl", yet they are actually estranged.
She lives on a council estate. She did not come from a middle class background and go off the rails because she was a spoilt brat, that is Helen.
Haters will be pessimistic about all of this.

[Headie]

Ashleigh's odds shortening :clap1:

[joeysteele]

In reality even on racing terms and I take no notice of betting as to BB anyway.

There is little really between all the first 3 in the betting.Ashleigh is only marginally now into the odds on scenario,with Helen somewhere around 11/2 for in 3rd place.

In actual betting terms,although there is just an odds on favourite,that is pretty near an open race expected between those 3 in all fact.

[Kazanne]

The Ashleigh haters don't even know anything about her.
She works in a clothes shop and does modelling in her free time.
She is a fund raiser for a animal charity.
She does support groups for girls with low self esteem, obviously this is related to her own experiences of being bullied.
She has been accused of being a "daddy's girl", yet they are actually estranged.
She lives on a council estate. She did not come from a middle class background and go off the rails because she was a spoilt brat, that is Helen.
Haters will be pessimistic about all of this.

http://static.tumblr.com/bnasgwa/k8Cltedbd/stalker.gif

[Achilles]

http://static.tumblr.com/bnasgwa/k8Cltedbd/stalker.gif

That's you hiding from my huge mug of truth tea :tongue:

[Miranda123]

fgs Miranda she's just finished school :/

" rather than the story of a little beauty queen whose never had to work a day in her life "

I know that Niamh, its not a criticism, just that she seems to have had a charmed life with her parents, which I did with mine, which is why I always feel that the ones who dont/didnt have that are slightly more deserving

You know I havent liked Helen all the way through this but when I see a damaged person, whether that be on Big Brother or someone drinking in a doorway on the street, I always wonder what went wrong to make them like that, and with Helen, I started to see a vulnerability that was sad and made me look at her in a different way

I have no doubt, much as I would like Ash in the mix too, just cause I love him, that Helen & Ashleigh have made the last few weeks watchable and have made this series for me this year, the other also rans are okay but would they honestly have created so much turmoil and angst on this forum, I dont think so

I would be very happy with Helen winning and Ashleigh coming 2nd, I would also be ok vice versa, lets face it, i'll be okay whatever happens cause I didnt bet my life on the outcome lol

But obvs my perfect ideal finish would be a Helen win, as I think she is the least expecting and would benefit from knowing she can be liked, more than the others

I do wish you luck though Niamh, and who knows, we may even like the same person in CBB........................

Ok, I said 'might' lol

[Miranda123]

The Ashleigh haters don't even know anything about her.
She works in a clothes shop and does modelling in her free time.
She is a fund raiser for a animal charity.
She does support groups for girls with low self esteem, obviously this is related to her own experiences of being bullied.
She has been accused of being a "daddy's girl", yet they are actually estranged.
She lives on a council estate. She did not come from a middle class background and go off the rails because she was a spoilt brat, that is Helen.
Haters will be pessimistic about all of this.

and she's working on a cure for cancer, yeah yeah, we know Achilles

lets just look fwd to the final now and forget detractors and haters

we are all in this together, just looking for a different outcome

HELEN TO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!

[chuff me dizzy]

The Ashleigh haters don't even know anything about her.
She works in a clothes shop and does modelling in her free time.
She is a fund raiser for a animal charity.
She does support groups for girls with low self esteem, obviously this is related to her own experiences of being bullied.
She has been accused of being a "daddy's girl", yet they are actually estranged.
She lives on a council estate. She did not come from a middle class background and go off the rails because she was a spoilt brat, that is Helen.
Haters will be pessimistic about all of this.

And do you know what ? they don't care either :bored:

[Niamh.]

I know that Niamh, its not a criticism, just that she seems to have had a charmed life with her parents, which I did with mine, which is why I always feel that the ones who dont/didnt have that are slightly more deserving

You know I havent liked Helen all the way through this but when I see a damaged person, whether that be on Big Brother or someone drinking in a doorway on the street, I always wonder what went wrong to make them like that, and with Helen, I started to see a vulnerability that was sad and made me look at her in a different way

I have no doubt, much as I would like Ash in the mix too, just cause I love him, that Helen & Ashleigh have made the last few weeks watchable and have made this series for me this year, the other also rans are okay but would they honestly have created so much turmoil and angst on this forum, I dont think so

I would be very happy with Helen winning and Ashleigh coming 2nd, I would also be ok vice versa, lets face it, i'll be okay whatever happens cause I didnt bet my life on the outcome lol

But obvs my perfect ideal finish would be a Helen win, as I think she is the least expecting and would benefit from knowing she can be liked, more than the others

I do wish you luck though Niamh, and who knows, we may even like the same person in CBB........................

Ok, I said 'might' lol

I actually want Christopher to win, I don't have to defend him as much on here though :hehe:

I won't be watching CBB I'm afraid as I'll be on holiday, maybe next year eh?

Enjoy the final tonight Miranda, I have my bottle of wine already chilling, and tbh I won't be disappointed really no matter who wins, all in all it's probably one of the best, most interesting bunch of finalists we've had (love'em or hate'em)

[Brother Leon]

The Ashleigh haters don't even know anything about her.
She works in a clothes shop and does modelling in her free time.
She is a fund raiser for a animal charity.
She does support groups for girls with low self esteem, obviously this is related to her own experiences of being bullied.
She has been accused of being a "daddy's girl", yet they are actually estranged.
She lives on a council estate. She did not come from a middle class background and go off the rails because she was a spoilt brat, that is Helen.
Haters will be pessimistic about all of this.

Nah. It's mostly because she's been miserable as **** in there and is extremely hypocritical that most won't like her tbh.

[Locke.]

Ashleigh was never gonna be overtaken before the final actually starts anyway, she was too far ahead. It looks like Helen is probably going to be second favourite going into it though which would be an amazing turnaround from the start of the week (although when the show actually starts she will drift out again and Christopher will overtake because of the difference in reaction they'll get from the crowd).

Ash is also coming in quite a lot right now :think:

[susie q]

Ashleigh was never gonna be overtaken before the final actually starts anyway, she was too far ahead. It looks like Helen is probably going to be second favourite going into it though which would be an amazing turnaround from the start of the week (although when the show actually starts she will drift out again and Christopher will overtake because of the difference in reaction they'll get from the crowd).

Ash is also coming in quite a lot right now :think:

Good I hope he does.

[chuff me dizzy]

Ashleigh was never gonna be overtaken before the final actually starts anyway, she was too far ahead. It looks like Helen is probably going to be second favourite going into it though which would be an amazing turnaround from the start of the week (although when the show actually starts she will drift out again and Christopher will overtake because of the difference in reaction they'll get from the crowd).

Ash is also coming in quite a lot right now :think:

Ashlieghs odds as fav are not good ,IF she was even near to be a cert to win,she would be at least 1-20,Helen 2nd fav a few places already

[kefln]

What I do believe, is that Helen has had a major turnaround with the public, and the GBP love a redemption story, rather than the story of a little beauty queen whose never had to work a day in her life and has been spoiled rotten by her family. (Nothing wrong with that, but it isnt what the GBP want)

On the other hand - a girl whose life has been ****, some of it her own fault as she admits, has been in foster care, pregnant at 16, the man f.cked off, got a job as a clerk, worked hard, made another mistake (huge) and has spent a lot of time paying for it (being beaten up in pubs/street etc) and has now shown us the soft underbelly of her character after fighting her emotions to keep the hard surface that she wants people to see to protect herself.

Its also obvious that even though Helen went back to school to get GCSE's, she is not the brightest in the house (academically speaking), and that partly her arguing is frustration at not being able to deal with things logically when she is upset

She is a typical underdog, and as such, deserves the GBP's support
We are all entitled to our opinion, and I said a few days ago that I was going to avoid all "arguments" this final week, so please don't take this the wrong way - BB is all in good fun and we are all fans.

Here's my problem with the your above statement, you have taken someone who has made many mistakes in life, alot of which are due to her attitude and aggression, and made her out to be the underdog. But in the BB house Helen has been topdog.

In the same statement you d*nmed Ashleigh for having a charmed life and never working a day in her life, neither of which are true.

There is an inconsistency to it all. Why give so much benefit of the doubt to one HM, while developing a complete picture of their life. Yet forgive the other nothing and wrongly accuse of things in their "real" life.

[Achilles]

Nah. It's mostly because she's been miserable as **** in there and is extremely hypocritical that most won't like her tbh.

I know it will be very difficult but try and put yourself in Ashleigh's shoes for a moment. She was bullied at school. Then she gets to go on Big Brother, expecting and hoping for a fun summer. Instead she meets Helen and her nasty gang. So is back in the playground and so is miserable. You have to put yourself in her shoes and look at it from her perspective and not your own perspective. Helen and the nasty gang had the attitude of "Ashleigh's miserable", they weren't interested in why and didn't care and the reason is because they are nasty and don't care.

[chuff me dizzy]

I know it will be very difficult but try and put yourself in Ashleigh's shoes for a moment. She was bullied at school. Then she gets to go on Big Brother, expecting and hoping for a fun summer. Instead she meets Helen and her nasty gang. So is back in the playground and so is miserable. You have to put yourself in her shoes and look at it from her perspective and not your own perspective. Helen and the nasty gang had the attitude of "Ashleigh's miserable", they weren't interested in why and didn't care and the reason is because they are nasty and don't care.

:bored: Please post proof of the brat being bullied, if you can't its pity chasing Thank you

[Achilles]

:bored: Please post proof of the brat being bullied, if you can't its pity chasing Thank you

I'm not talking about Helen. Helen is the bully, not the one who was bullied.

[bots]

I know it will be very difficult but try and put yourself in Ashleigh's shoes for a moment. She was bullied at school. Then she gets to go on Big Brother, expecting and hoping for a fun summer. Instead she meets Helen and her nasty gang. So is back in the playground and so is miserable. You have to put yourself in her shoes and look at it from her perspective and not your own perspective. Helen and the nasty gang had the attitude of "Ashleigh's miserable", they weren't interested in why and didn't care and the reason is because they are nasty and don't care.

At this stage I would rather just congratulate each housemate for providing me with great entertainment. All the arguments have been done, I don't think we are going to change opinions now. I'm all for chilling, voting for my hm (Helen) and looking forward with anticipation to hearing the result.

Good luck, and most of all, enjoy!

[chuff me dizzy]

I'm not talking about Helen. Helen is the bully, not the one who was bullied.

You've claimed all series Ashleigh was bullied, I've asked countless times for proof none came, speaks volumes :bored: :joker:

[Achilles]

You've claimed all series Ashleigh was bullied, I've asked countless times for proof none came, speaks volumes :bored: :joker:

She has said it herself. Housemates have said it. Family has said it. You choose to call them all liars. I choose to believe them.
Even if you saw video evidence of her being bullied in school, your reaction would most likely be "bitch deserves it". So what would be the point in giving you proof anyway? :shrug:

[Ruffle]

I won't be watching I don't like see a bully in with a chance to win I have worked with people all my working life that have had tragic lives but thy don't bully others I wish Helen well on the outside giving her the crown will only make her a bigger bully it won't change her life addressing her issues is the only way forward she did make her own choices in life she went t the papers to sell her story her kiss and tell we have watch her bully and make the hms lives a misery Some people are not damaged thy are just what thy say thy are and that's not very nice to be around if you do her bidding then you are ok but don't cross her or you will no about it I. Will say no more people seem hell bent on giving this woman the crown I hope you all enjoy the show I won't call it bb that would be an insult

[sampvt]

The Ashleigh haters don't even know anything about her.
She works in a clothes shop and does modelling in her free time.
She is a fund raiser for a animal charity.
She does support groups for girls with low self esteem, obviously this is related to her own experiences of being bullied.
She has been accused of being a "daddy's girl", yet they are actually estranged.
She lives on a council estate. She did not come from a middle class background and go off the rails because she was a spoilt brat, that is Helen.
Haters will be pessimistic about all of this.


Oh FFS some of you posters could twist things and make Fred West sound like Julie Andrews coach. This stuff you are writing is from her back story and internet friends. Her dad may not be playing hide the sausage with mrs Dermaglens dotties mammy, but he is a wealthy man in his own right and is very very close to his spoilt daughter. He dotes on her and has been very proactive in her campaign to win.

She does work part time but her so called fund raising activities are as yet words of hype yet unproven to a degree where no animal charity has spoken out on her behalf. I give the odd hundred to Cancer research but I sure as hell aint an active campaigner and a do goodie fund raiser. It pisses me off when people tell the world they are an animal activist and a fund raiser just to make them sound cute and current. Real fund raisers don't shout about it, they get on with things quietly and don't want hype.

You make her house sound like a run down ramshackle in a crime ridden estate, Derry is pretty upmarket and even some of the old council estates are more than 80% privately owned, my cousin lives on the Waterside near Ashleighs mammy and she certainly aint no benefit case and her pushy mammy is pretty well known in Derry as is *******igh so please don't try to make her out to be a saint.

If you are going to research her, talk to someone on the ground that is close to her, not the internet ****e that she and her family write. These types of posts really get my goat and I am sorry if it makes you feel aggrieved but there is way too much hype about her out there that does not stand scrutiny.

[Ruffle]

You've claimed all series Ashleigh was bullied, I've asked countless times for proof none came, speaks volumes :bored: :joker:

How can you prove bulling
She comes across as a very strong young girl you don't get that strength from being pampered Thy don't keep records on bulling but we have seen one n action for ten weeks Helen I bet there is people that will say no she is not a bully only a week ago every one did think so and do no she is one and will probably never change We can hope though

[Kazanne]

No one has been bullied in the house,they may have been called some names but NOT bullied,bullying is a relentless thing,not a one off thing,we all know someone who is a bully or has been bullied they come in all guises,people claiming Helen is a bully just don't like her and its a convenient tag.

[Denver]

How can you prove bulling
She comes across as a very strong young girl you don't get that strength from being pampered Thy don't keep records on bulling but we have seen one n action for ten weeks Helen I bet there is people that will say no she is not a bully only a week ago every one did think so and do no she is one and will probably never change We can hope though

Its 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other with ashliegh and helen

[Achilles]

No one has been bullied in the house,they may have been called some names but NOT bullied,bullying is a relentless thing,not a one off thing,we all know someone who is a bully or has been bullied they come in all guises,people claiming Helen is a bully just don't like her and its a convenient tag.

Helen got warned for bullying and people complained about her bullying. She is a bully and has bullied in the house repeatedly and target more than one housemate. I have seen her bullying with my own eyes.

[sampvt]

Helen got warned for bullying and people complained about her bullying. She is a bully and has bullied in the house repeatedly and target more than one housemate. I have seen her bullying with my own eyes.

I think I missed the episode where BB showed Helen getting warnings for bullying. Can you post me a link showing the content of any of her warnings, I seem to be missing that one.

[Achilles]

Most popular bets

Ashleigh 25.89%
Christopher 14.66%
Mark 12.99%
Winston 12.97%
Chris 12.33%
The other 14 housemates 21.15%

Ashleigh 26.00% +
Christopher 14.84% +
Mark 12.70%
Winston 12.68%
Chris 12.25% -
The other 14 housemates 21.54% +

[kefln]

She does work part time but her so called fund raising activities are as yet words of hype yet unproven to a degree where no animal charity has spoken out on her behalf. I give the odd hundred to Cancer research but I sure as hell aint an active campaigner and a do goodie fund raiser. It pisses me off when people tell the world they are an animal activist and a fund raiser just to make them sound cute and current. Real fund raisers don't shout about it, they get on with things quietly and don't want hype.

Love it when people make statements like this without doing research. Check out the FB page of Ashleighs local animal shelter:

The Rainbow Rehoming Centre

Yesterday at 14:25*·*Edited*·*We are extremely proud of Ashleigh*

ASHLEIGH TO WIN

Please all keep voting for local girl and Rainbow Volunteer*
Ashleigh Coyle to WIN BIG BROTHER*



So if anyone has doubts that she does voluntary work with animals, contact them, don't bother to reject out of spite, or bias.

[chuff me dizzy]

She has said it herself. Housemates have said it. Family has said it. You choose to call them all liars. I choose to believe them.
Even if you saw video evidence of her being bullied in school, your reaction would most likely be "bitch deserves it". So what would be the point in giving you proof anyway? :shrug:

Right, so because SHES said it ,its fact ,just as I thought pity chasing, it happens every year :bored:

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh FFS some of you posters could twist things and make Fred West sound like Julie Andrews coach. This stuff you are writing is from her back story and internet friends. Her dad may not be playing hide the sausage with mrs Dermaglens dotties mammy, but he is a wealthy man in his own right and is very very close to his spoilt daughter. He dotes on her and has been very proactive in her campaign to win.

She does work part time but her so called fund raising activities are as yet words of hype yet unproven to a degree where no animal charity has spoken out on her behalf. I give the odd hundred to Cancer research but I sure as hell aint an active campaigner and a do goodie fund raiser. It pisses me off when people tell the world they are an animal activist and a fund raiser just to make them sound cute and current. Real fund raisers don't shout about it, they get on with things quietly and don't want hype.

You make her house sound like a run down ramshackle in a crime ridden estate, Derry is pretty upmarket and even some of the old council estates are more than 80% privately owned, my cousin lives on the Waterside near Ashleighs mammy and she certainly aint no benefit case and her pushy mammy is pretty well known in Derry as is *******igh so please don't try to make her out to be a saint.

If you are going to research her, talk to someone on the ground that is close to her, not the internet ****e that she and her family write. These types of posts really get my goat and I am sorry if it makes you feel aggrieved but there is way too much hype about her out there that does not stand scrutiny.

:clap1:

[sampvt]

Ashleigh 26.00% +
Christopher 14.84% +
Mark 12.70%
Winston 12.68%
Chris 12.25% -
The other 14 housemates 21.54% +

Sorry to burst your bubble but results dating back to the beginning of time are pretty crappy guides. Mark was fav way back then and where is he now. If you were to start a new poll, those figures would be a tad out of sync. Ashleighs race was run on the forums weeks ago, Helens race with Ash on her apron strings is the current trend. Chris and Pav are still stuck in the starting gate and *******igh and creepy Chris are running round like headless chickens living on oats provided last month.

The simple truth is that 50% of bets will be placed today and most people are waiting on the edits tonight its that close its hard to call. If Ash and Helen get good edits then the result will be very very close. If dermaglen Dottie gets a good edit, she will probably win if the forums get down to the bookies but its not a foregone conclusion.

[chuff me dizzy]

Helen got warned for bullying and people complained about her bullying. She is a bully and has bullied in the house repeatedly and target more than one housemate. I have seen her bullying with my own eyes.

WRONG she did not get warned for bullying ,try another :bored:

[warrenhill]

Ashleigh now 4/9 to win....:shocked:

[chuff me dizzy]

Ashleigh now 4/9 to win....:shocked:

For a fav that price is dire ,if she was a cert she would be minimum 1-20 ,and even then its beatable

[Achilles]

Right, so because SHES said it ,its fact ,just as I thought pity chasing, it happens every year :bored:

Even your best mate Helen said it. Is Helen a liar too? :shrug:

She runs self-esteem classes for young women. Is that a lie?

[MB.]

For a fav that price is dire ,if she was a cert she would be minimum 1-20 ,and even then its beatable

...when did anyone ever say she was a certain?

[sampvt]

Ashleigh now 4/9 to win....:shocked:

Chuff was right, 1/2 isn't a strong indication of the real odds. She is 1/2 because of bets laid last week. Todays odds will all go tits up around 8pm. Watch and learn. This years results are down to last minute edits and that's how close it is.

[Denver]

What i find weird is ash odds are dropping fast he is now 14/1

[chuff me dizzy]

What i find weird is ash odds are dropping fast he is now 14/1

I dont think he's down enough to be even close to winning

[Kazanne]

Helen got warned for bullying and people complained about her bullying. She is a bully and has bullied in the house repeatedly and target more than one housemate. I have seen her bullying with my own eyes.

You're wrong,she'de have been thrown out if she had bullied anyone.

[Denver]

I dont think he's down enough to be even close to winning

One bookies have him at 10/1

[Denver]

Good news helen is now the clear second fav

[chuff me dizzy]

Good news helen is now the clear second fav

Keep voting !! :cheer2:

[Achilles]

You're wrong,she'de have been thrown out if she had bullied anyone.

Like Conor? :rolleyes:

[Jay.]

Is this in order of who are the bookies favourites/who will win?

http://i.imgur.com/GvFUIuO.jpg

edit - dont worry I clicked 'fav' thinking it was favourite but I think I was already on favourites :laugh:

so currently it goes

Ashleigh, Christopher then Helen in terms of favourite to win?

[LukeB]

Like Conor? :rolleyes:

good point

[VanessaFeltz.]

It is Ashleigh 1/2 Christopher 4 Helen 9/2

[Kazanne]

Like Conor? :rolleyes:

What's Conor got to do with this? I didn't see him as a bully either?

[Denver]

It is Ashleigh 1/2 Christopher 4 Helen 9/2

Chris is 5/1 on oddschecker it currently goes

ashliegh
helen
christopher
ash
chris
pav

[chuff me dizzy]

Chris is 5/1 on oddschecker it currently goes

ashliegh
helen
christopher
ash
chris
pav

Helens 3 -1 ,and 4-1 generally

[VanessaFeltz.]

Chris is 5/1 on oddschecker it currently goes

ashliegh
helen
christopher
ash
chris
pav

I am counting bet365

[erinp5]

good point

Helen shocked audiences when she branded Jale an “attention-seeking b**tard”, having already called her “a slug” and nicknamed her “Slugworth” in a conversation behind her back the previous night.

Although she wasn’t issued with an official warning for her behaviour, show bosses did warn Helen: “Big Brother thinks your behaviour is unacceptable and Big Brother does not tolerate unacceptable behaviour. If this type of behaviour occurs again then Big Brother may have to issue you with a formal warning or take further serious action.

“Name-calling, persistent ridiculing and behaviour that results in an individual becoming ostracised from the group are all types of behaviour that can be perceived as bullying.”

[Denver]

Helens 3 -1 ,and 4-1 generally

He drifted now he is 5/1

[Miranda123]

Right, so because SHES said it ,its fact ,just as I thought pity chasing, it happens every year :bored:

Dont let it get to you chuff, just keep voting for our girl Helen and we'll get her to the end

As far as Ashleigh doing volunteer work at her local rehoming centre, she may do

It doesnt mean Helen hates animals, in fact Im surprised no one has photoshopped a pic of Helen kicking a puppy lol

HELEN TO WIN!!

[Miranda123]

Helen shocked audiences when she branded Jale an “attention-seeking b**tard”, having already called her “a slug” and nicknamed her “Slugworth” in a conversation behind her back the previous night.

Although she wasn’t issued with an official warning for her behaviour, show bosses did warn Helen: “Big Brother thinks your behaviour is unacceptable and Big Brother does not tolerate unacceptable behaviour. If this type of behaviour occurs again then Big Brother may have to issue you with a formal warning or take further serious action.

“Name-calling, persistent ridiculing and behaviour that results in an individual becoming ostracised from the group are all types of behaviour that can be perceived as bullying.”

yeah she did get one at the same time as Pauline, and at that time, I didnt like Helen at all

Does anyone care now? I doubt it, Helen has changed for the better and we all love her for what she is, good and bad

HELEN TO WIN!!

GET OUR GIRL THERE AND GET THE FAIRYTALE ENDING WE DESERVE!

[chuff me dizzy]

Dont let it get to you chuff, just keep voting for our girl Helen and we'll get her to the end

As far as Ashleigh doing volunteer work at her local rehoming centre, she may do

It doesnt mean Helen hates animals, in fact Im surprised no one has photoshopped a pic of Helen kicking a puppy lol

HELEN TO WIN!!

It would never do that !!did you spot whoever it was who's shoved bullying down out necks for weeks, didn't come up with any proof? just slipped away instead :joker: sad really if its wasn't so desperate :joker:

[Miranda123]

It would never do that !!did you spot whoever it was who's shoved bullying down out necks for weeks, didn't come up with any proof? just slipped away instead :joker: sad really if its wasn't so desperate :joker:

well when you cant win an argument lol

Im sick of all the bullying crap about Helen

yes, she was a bitch for the first few weeks, her treatment of Jale wound me right up but since Pauline went, she has changed so much, and even her relationship with Ash has changed her too

She has not bullied anyone since then, she has rowed with people and they have rowed back, thats all, but Ashleigh & Chris (and before him, Danielle) have spent the last 6 weeks slagging her off, completely fixated on her demise

Im praying that tonight, something nice will happen for Helen and she will know that people appreciate her journey and love her, faults and all!

HELEN TO WIN!!

Keep voting chuff!

[Vicky.]

Ash way above chris...wtf D:

Looks like we might get Helen/Ashleigh f2 afterall...who would have thought it a few weeks back :laugh:

[Cal.]

Seems like a final 2 between Helen and Ashleigh yes. I think Ashleigh will win, but Helen thoroughly deserves 2nd or 1st, just like Ashleigh!

[JTM45]

While it saddens me greatly that Helen might actually get second place (so many people have been duped by BB!!!) it makes me very happy that she's not going to win and as we all know with Big Brother, there's no prize for second place!:laugh:

Ashleigh, our BB15 WINNER!!!!! :dance:

[Locke.]

Ash 10/3 to finish 5th. Don't mind if I do.

[Babschap]

8/13 Ashliegh
5/1 Christopher
13/2 Helen this is from Betfred

[chuff me dizzy]

8/13 Ashliegh
5/1 Christopher
13/2 Helen this is from Betfred

Click my link it shows all odds on there Helen clear 2nd fav and coming in :dance::dance::dance: