Why is Helen the only one who dislikes Ashleigh?

[Vladimir]

Out of all housemates only Helen and her bff Kim have been talking **** about Ashleigh since the beginning. Ash and Pav said that don't want her to win and that she's boring but that's not bad.

If Ashleigh's so nasty, miserable, bitchy and awful to live with why is Helen the only one who is bothered by that?

On the other hand, many housemates (evicted and current) have had arguments with Helen and generally dislike her (Ashleigh, Danielle, Chris, Christopher, Matthew, Toya, Jale).

[JoshBB]

Actually, Kim used to be close friends with Ashleigh but that ended when she found out Ashleigh was talking **** about her with Danielle behind her back.

[jessicadanielle]

Tbh I think a lot of ex hms e.g. Steven, Winston would now claim not to like Ashleigh, but I do believe they're just taking sides and bitter that she has a chance of winning. The people you listed above who dislike Helen all have had personal run ins with her so have a reason of their own to dislike her.

Pretty sure Jale does like Helen though?

[Tom4784]

It's only the clique that really dislikes her that everyone aside from the clique hated Helen. It's very telling.

[kefln]

The OP makes a good point.

Ash had a problem with her weeks ago, before BB played anything back. But they have got on fairly well recently. The others only comment on how she sits apart, but she could say the same. In fact I think it was Ash that said it wasn't a big deal, that the two groups just have different things to talk about.

Kim has her reasons, but Winston only started mouthing off since leaving, he had no problems with her in the house.

[Denver]

All the ex housemates disliked her apart from mathew and danielle

[Pink Pegasus]

I think it's because she can see that Ashleigh has just as bitchy a side as herself but a lot of others seem oblivious to it, so Helen finds it incredibly frustrating that they only see this "cute" and "sweet" side which Helen sees as an act.
I think Helen already explained her reasons well for her dislike of Ashleigh.

[MrWong]

Actually, Kim used to be close friends with Ashleigh but that ended when she found out Ashleigh was talking **** about her with Danielle behind her back.

I think you'll find that Danielle and Ashleigh started bitching about Kim when she flew up Helen's arse.

[M X]

Because Ashleigh is everything Helen wishes she was.

Classy, young, intelligent, naturally beautiful, and popular.

[Tarryn]

I think you'll find that Danielle and Ashleigh started bitching about Kim when she flew up Helen's arse.

It's crowded up there :shocked:

[Tarryn]

Because Ashleigh is everything Helen wishes she was.

Classy, young, intelligent, naturally beautiful, and popular.

Helen does seem to have a real problem with Ashleigh. I think part of it is because she does not get the reaction she wants.
Ashleigh does not enter into the huge shouting matches that others have with Helen & seems (most of the time) to keep her cool.
This frustrates Helen.

[Brother Leon]

Why do 95% of the HMs entered enjoy Helen's company more than the "nice team"?

[Marsh.]

Helen is 27, she's hardly old.

[M X]

Helen does seem to have a real problem with Ashleigh. I think part of it is because she does not get the reaction she wants.
Ashleigh does not enter into the huge shouting matches that others have with Helen & seems (most of the time) to keep her cool.
This frustrates Helen.

Helen's dislike for Ashleigh stems from pure jealousy. It's so painfully obvious to watch. Helen is the biggest attention seeker in the house. As soon as Ashleigh gets any attention, Helen immediately does something that will get it back to her. One example was last night's show when Ash was talking to Ashleigh, and Helen stormed off crying knowing that it would make her look like a victim.

She's pathetic.

[Denver]

Helen's dislike for Ashleigh stems from pure jealousy. It's so painfully obvious to watch. Helen is the biggest attention seeker in the house. As soon as Ashleigh gets any attention, Helen immediately does something that will get it back to her. One example was last night's show when Ash was talking to Ashleigh, and Helen stormed off crying knowing that it would make her look like a victim.

She's pathetic.

So flirting with a man or trying to get close to a man or fake crying or bitching or dirty looks isnt attention seeking?

[M X]

So flirting with a man or trying to get close to a man or fake crying or bitching or dirty looks isnt attention seeking?

Where was Ashleigh flirting with Ash? All she did was put her head on his shoulder. And I thought that Helen was so insistent that there was nothing going on between her and Ash? So even if Ashleigh was flirting with him, what is it to Helen?

And as far as 'fake crying' goes, at least there was real tears with Ashleigh. The same can't be said for Helen. That crying in the toilet last night was almost comical. The over-exagerated sounds, and "Don't open the door I don't want people to see me", yeah because you don't want people to realise that you are faking the whole thing.

The reaching that is done by Helen fans to try and smear Ashleigh :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Because Ashleigh is everything Helen wishes she was.

Classy, young, intelligent, naturally beautiful, and popular.

Pretty much this. Helen's jealous of Ashleigh's youth and opportunity.

[Denver]

Where was Ashleigh flirting with Ash? All she did was put her head on his shoulder. And I thought that Helen was so insistent that there was nothing going on between her and Ash? So even if Ashleigh was flirting with him, what is it to Helen?

And as far as 'fake crying' goes, at least there was real tears with Ashleigh. The same can't be said for Helen. That crying in the toilet last night was almost comical. The over-exagerated sounds, and "Don't open the door I don't want people to see me", yeah because you don't want people to realise that you are faking the whole thing.

The reaching that is done by Helen fans to try and smear Ashleigh :joker:

She flirts with chris
Not one tear came from ashliegh yesterday helen had loads
helen admits her faults ashliegh blames other people
if you going to slag helen fans of for straw clutching maybe refresh your memory to the week jale left

[MrWong]

She flirts with chris
Not one tear came from ashliegh yesterday helen had loads
helen admits her faults ashliegh blames other people
if you going to slag helen fans of for straw clutching maybe refresh your memory to the week jale left

Was Christopher in on the act too? He was wiping the tears. :smug:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Ash doesn't really like her, he thinks she's boring its not just Helen.

A lot of the housemates didn't like her or thought she was boring.

It transpires that Winston cant stand her lol

[Creggle]

I think you'll find that Danielle and Ashleigh started bitching about Kim when she flew up Helen's arse.

And look what Kimberly turned out to be, seem's she was right about her. :smug:

[Denver]

Was Christopher in on the act too? He was wiping the tears. :smug:

Probaly she is fake and i bet you a tenner if she wins she will dump her boyfreind because she will think she is better then him

[MrWong]

And look what Kimberly turned out to be, seem's she was right about her. :smug:

She absolutely was :hehe:

[Vladimir]

A lot of the housemates didn't like her or thought she was boring.


But why didn't anyone else except Helen and Kim actually say that they dislike Ashleigh? Winston and Steven started talking **** about her after they were evicted. :shrug: Steven and Ashleigh even had a nice friendship while he was in the house.

[MB.]

All the ex housemates disliked her apart from mathew and danielle

If that was the case, Toya wouldn't want her to win

[MrWong]

Probaly she is fake and i bet you a tenner if she wins she will dump her boyfreind because she will think she is better then him

Oh come on :joker:

Why would he help someone else win Big Brother?

[Denver]

If that was the case, Toya wouldn't want her to win

Toya who? Her opinion is invalid and biased

[Denver]

Oh come on :joker:

Why would he help someone else win Big Brother?

He knows he will come out smelly of rosies being caring and thoughtful

[Marsh.]

And look what Kimberly turned out to be, seem's she was right about her. :smug:

Yet but couldn't be more wrong about Danielle. :smug:

[M X]

She flirts with chris
Not one tear came from ashliegh yesterday helen had loads
helen admits her faults ashliegh blames other people
if you going to slag helen fans of for straw clutching maybe refresh your memory to the week jale left

Ashleigh doesn't flirt with Chris. Stop embarassing yourself by saying things that have no ground. You aren't making Helen's fans look any better. :joker:
Let me know when Helen admits her faults - "I have not created a divide in the house". Perhaps when Helen leaves the house, she can take up a career in stand-up comedy. Her denial is hilarious. She could have one whole hour on stage talking about how she is misunderstood and just a 'real person'. It would be hysterical.
And yeah, Jale ruined her own chances by acting like an a*sehole and by turning her back on the people who were there for her and befriending Helen. Becoming friends with Helen in Big Brother is like asking to get evicted. She's the black widow.
Just ask Tamara. ;)

[Marsh.]

Probaly she is fake and i bet you a tenner if she wins she will dump her boyfreind because she will think she is better then him

To be fair, it's half this forum who think she's better than her boyfriend. Despite only knowing him through a few instagram photos. :laugh:

[Denver]

Ashleigh doesn't flirt with Chris. Stop embarassing yourself by saying things that have no ground. You aren't making Helen's fans look any better. :joker:
Let me know when Helen admits her faults - "I have not created a divide in the house". Perhaps when Helen leaves the house, she can take up a career in stand-up comedy. Her denial is hilarious. She could have one whole hour on stage talking about how she is misunderstood and just a 'real person'. It would be hysterical.
And yeah, Jale ruined her own chances by acting like an a*sehole and by turning her back on the people who were there for her and befriending Helen. Becoming friends with Helen in Big Brother is like asking to get evicted. She's the black widow.
Just ask Tamara. ;)
Jale is free to befriend who she wants it no buisness of anyones

[Kazanne]

Good lord,I can smell the fixations in here:shocked: Bye
http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/2045724/81809853.gif

[MrWong]

He knows he will come out smelly of rosies being caring and thoughtful

A damsel in distress beats that.

Besides. You could see the tears if you have a half decent telly.

Were you watching BB on this?

http://i58.tinypic.com/316u93r.jpg

[Kazanne]

She's not,I don't like her either :laugh:

[Denver]

A damsel in distress beats that.

Besides. You could see the tears if you have a half decent telly.

Were you watching BB on this?

http://i58.tinypic.com/316u93r.jpg

Remind me the forum rules? Oh yea dont personally attack other members what ever tv i watch is my buisness not yours thank you very much

[MrWong]

Good lord,I can smell the fixations in here:shocked: Bye

You must have brought the smell in with you.

It's gone now :whistle:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

But why didn't anyone else except Helen and Kim actually say that they dislike Ashleigh? Winston and Steven started talking **** about her after they were evicted. :shrug: Steven and Ashleigh even had a nice friendship while he was in the house.

They did express that they disliked both Danielle and Ashleigh allways sitting in the pod and she was called boring/miserable ect.

[M X]

Jale is free to befriend who she wants it no buisness of anyones

Unfortunately for Jale, and unfortunately for your argument, it is the whole countries business. She's in Big Brother.

[Denver]

Unfortunately for Jale, and unfortunately for your argument, it is the whole countries business. She's in Big Brother.

Nope if she wants to be freinds with someone thats her buisness we have no right to tell her she cant be helens freind

[Sophiee]

because helen is worried that she's going to steal that alpha female role.

[Crimson Dynamo]

simply because she is the woman helen wants to be

[Lstan]

Out of all housemates only Helen and her bff Kim have been talking **** about Ashleigh since the beginning. Ash and Pav said that don't want her to win and that she's boring but that's not bad.

If Ashleigh's so nasty, miserable, bitchy and awful to live with why is Helen the only one who is bothered by that?

On the other hand, many housemates (evicted and current) have had arguments with Helen and generally dislike her (Ashleigh, Danielle, Chris, Christopher, Matthew, Toya, Jale).

it appears people dont like ashleigh after they have found out she has said something bad about them behind their back. they dont like helen because shes pretty upfront with her hate, that appears to be the reason for the subsequent reactions.

[Lstan]

To be fair, it's half this forum who think she's better than her boyfriend. Despite only knowing him through a few instagram photos. :laugh:

people taking about her bf and stalking her instagram?! oh yeah thats totally not creepy, not creepy at all :spin:

[Lstan]

whoops wrong thread sorry *deleted*

[rusticgal]

Because Ashleigh is everything Helen wishes she was.

Classy, young, intelligent, naturally beautiful, and popular.

Exactly...and Steven, Kimberley and Winston...all of Helens arselickers only hate her for the same reason.

[ruiphillips]

She is jealous of her looks and maturity for her age.

[Cold Sweat]

Out of all housemates only Helen and her bff Kim have been talking **** about Ashleigh since the beginning. Ash and Pav said that don't want her to win and that she's boring but that's not bad.

If Ashleigh's so nasty, miserable, bitchy and awful to live with why is Helen the only one who is bothered by that?

On the other hand, many housemates (evicted and current) have had arguments with Helen and generally dislike her (Ashleigh, Danielle, Chris, Christopher, Matthew, Toya, Jale).

Pure jealousy.

[Denver]

She is jealous of her looks and maturity for her age.

Come on who would be jelous of ashliegh's looks ive seen better looking 80 year olds

[MrWong]

Come on who would be jelous of ashliegh's looks ive seen better looking 80 year olds

Helen's had her face, teeth and tits altered and Ashleigh still looks better.

[waterhog]

jealousy sums it up.

[Razor]

I also think she is jealous and doesnt want her to win.

[cfromhx02]

Helen's the only one left in the house who is up front enough and honest enough to say what Ashleigh is really like.

I'm not the biggest fan of Helen.I deplored the slug comment too & wasn't fond of how she talked to Mathew either but those things were ages ago, and genuinely come from a passionate person I think.

She just blurts things out sometimes (& was just upset as she thought Jale was bitching behind her back and thought she was spying /

staring at her & Mathew is a bit of a bitch anyway & she was quite right he was boring

so she just wanted people to have fun and join in with that game)

& isn't really a nasty person or bully etc, there is a big difference between being outspoken, up front and honest

to being a bully.

They are different things completely.

Helen has the honesty and is up front, which are the opposite to being two faced, as she was wrongly bullied by the rigged minority vote by Ashleigh's friends to abuse her with.All the underhand plotting and bitching about Helen and the rigged votes how she kept getting gunge poured over her, and how BB always avoided discussing anything wrong about Ashleigh, they were all forms of bullying against Helen.

Helen is honest and tells it like it is, sure she gets passionate, and can seem like a bully sometimes, but she's not, she's just passionate and sometimes says things off the cuff because she is emotional that she shouldn't, she has gone out of her way the most to comfort others when they have been upset, and even though I don't like what she did to Jale and Mathew I will back her before Ashleigh as Helen is honest whereas Ashleigh is the really dishonest,underhand, two faced, bitch mainly because she is ill, consumed with hate and it's best she doesn't win so she might realise she needs treatment.

[waterhog]

you can not prevent the inevitable. . and she is going to be so sour after it ends looking back on how she acted.

i think i will buy her a melon.

[MrWong]

Helen has the honesty and is up front, which are the opposite to being two faced,

Countless clips of Helen bitching about Ashleigh behind her back suggests otherwise. Btw, Helen had to admit that she was 2-faced during the trial. :D

[sampvt]

Helen's the only one left in the house who is up front enough and honest enough to say what Ashleigh is really like.

I'm not the biggest fan of Helen.I deplored the slug comment too & wasn't fond of how she talked to Mathew either but those things were ages ago, and genuinely come from a passionate person I think.

She just blurts things out sometimes (& was just upset as she thought Jale was bitching behind her back and thought she was spying /

staring at her & Mathew is a bit of a bitch anyway & she was quite right he was boring

so she just wanted people to have fun and join in with that game)

& isn't really a nasty person or bully etc, there is a big difference between being outspoken, up front and honest

to being a bully.

They are different things completely.

Helen has the honesty and is up front, which are the opposite to being two faced, as she was wrongly bullied by the rigged minority vote by Ashleigh's friends to abuse her with.All the underhand plotting and bitching about Helen and the rigged votes how she kept getting gunge poured over her, and how BB always avoided discussing anything wrong about Ashleigh, they were all forms of bullying against Helen.

Helen is honest and tells it like it is, sure she gets passionate, and can seem like a bully sometimes, but she's not, she's just passionate and sometimes says things off the cuff because she is emotional that she shouldn't, she has gone out of her way the most to comfort others when they have been upset, and even though I don't like what she did to Jale and Mathew I will back her before Ashleigh as Helen is honest whereas Ashleigh is the really dishonest,underhand, two faced, bitch mainly because she is ill, consumed with hate and it's best she doesn't win so she might realise she needs treatment.

Bang on, well written and very true