Headway Charity Attacks Channel 5

[Josy]

The charity Headway says treatment of American actor Gary Busey has been 'insensitive, exploitative and discriminatory'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/11064845/Celebrity-Big-Brother-brain-injury-charity-attacks-Channel-5-over-Gary-Busey-bullying.html

[CaudleHalbard]

Gary would find that both bizarre and hilarious.

[Josy]

Not really sure what I think about this tbh.

In one way it proves that a lot of people believe that the other housemates have been discriminating against him to some extent in the other hand Gary would hate to be considered a victim IMO and he is fit enough to be on the show.

[jessicadanielle]

Yeah not sure what I believe, Gary is holding his own and complaints like this paint Gary as a victim. He's very strong, not a victim.

However, I believe this is good in some ways. Shows like BB can be good for exposure to things like brain injuries to the public, but the way it's being dealt with in the house is really poor. I'd hate to think that some members of the public would have an inaccurate portrayal of neurological disorders and how to deal with them from the way it's been dealt with on BB.

[Patricia4]

Im with you on this Josy

[Jords]

The HMs have been ignorant and intolerant.

[Chuckyegg]

I never thought otherwise. I've never forgotten this channel is the pits. If channel 5 was a newspaper, the daily star would look down on it.

[jet]

Not really sure what I think about this tbh.

In one way it proves that a lot of people believe that the other housemates have been discriminating against him to some extent in the other hand Gary would hate to be considered a victim IMO and he is fit enough to be on the show.

Yes, I think he would HATE being considered a victim.
The article mentions the nomination process a lot and I think Stephanie and Rikkis noms were just too much. Is calling him dirty and disgusting on public TV is a step too far? Yes.

[waylander1973]

Like I said in early posts he should not have been put on the show, the producers are to blame for all of this, gary is clearly having problems in there and his fellow housemates have no experience in dealing with his condition.

[jessicadanielle]

Like I said in early posts he should not have been put on the show, the producers are to blame for all of this, gary is clearly having problems in there and his fellow housemates have no experience in dealing with his condition.

I disagree, having a disability shouldn't mean Gary is forced to become a recluse. I feel that that's a really old-fashioned attitude. Disabled people should not be written off.

[jaxie]

Not really sure what I think about this tbh.

In one way it proves that a lot of people believe that the other housemates have been discriminating against him to some extent in the other hand Gary would hate to be considered a victim IMO and he is fit enough to be on the show.

I don't know, to me Gary seems like a very positive person and I think perhaps he might be pleased that his appearance on the show has brought the difficulties of people who have brain injuries to light in public. I hope so anyway.

[waylander1973]

I disagree, having a disability shouldn't mean Gary is forced to become a recluse. I feel that that's a really old-fashioned attitude. Disabled people should not be written off.

Never said he should be a recluse, the telegraph news article an expert Charles Sophy that he is vulnerable quote - his accident had “probably” had a greater effect on him than he realised. Sophy described it as essentially weakening his mental "filters" and causing him to speak and act impulsively.

He can do other things than go on reality tv shows like big brother.

I only said he should not be on this show, where people without knowing his full condition may react in a negative manner towards him.

[jessicadanielle]

Never said he should be a recluse, the telegraph news article an expert Charles Sophy that he is vulnerable quote - his accident had “probably” had a greater effect on him than he realised. Sophy described it as essentially weakening his mental "filters" and causing him to speak and act impulsively.

He can do other things than go on reality tv shows like big brother.

I only said he should not be on this show, where people without knowing his full condition may react in a negative manner towards him.

Still, I don't think that's a reason to not go on the show. People who acquire injuries like Gary's still have to meet strangers from time to time. He is as able as the rest of us.

Though I did think it would have been a good idea to brief the hms about Gary's behaviour, just so they were clear that things that could be perceived as rudeness may be a result of his injury. I cringe so hard when James lectures Gary about things which may (or may not) be a result of his injury, e.g. "Barging" into conversations.

[Josy]

Like I said in early posts he should not have been put on the show, the producers are to blame for all of this, gary is clearly having problems in there and his fellow housemates have no experience in dealing with his condition.

You have completely ignored the entire point of the article and the charities cause.

You saying Gary shouldn't be in there is in fact discriminating against someone with a brain injury :facepalm:

[jet]

You have completely ignored the entire point of the article and the charities cause.

You saying Gary shouldn't be in there is in fact discriminating against someone with a brain injury :facepalm:

I don't think waylander was saying that. Unless the HM's are fully aware of the effects of a brain injury (and tbh, how many people are) then it wasn't wise to put Gary in and expose him to possible misunderstandings and humiliations (like Rikki saying he was dirty and disgusting.) Is poor hygiene and rudeness a direct result of such injuries in Gary's case? We don't know, so how would the HM's?

[Josy]

I don't think waylander was saying that. Unless the HM's are fully aware of the effects of a brain injury (and tbh, how many people are) then it wasn't wise to put Gary in and expose him to possible misunderstandings and humiliations (like Rikki saying he was dirty and disgusting.) Is poor hygiene and rudeness a direct result of such injuries in Gary's case? We don't know, so how would the HM's?

They don't need to be fully aware of the effects Jet all they need is a bit more patience and tolerance.

[jessicadanielle]

I don't think waylander was saying that. Unless the HM's are fully aware of the effects of a brain injury (and tbh, how many people are) then it wasn't wise to put Gary in and expose him to possible misunderstandings and humiliations (like Rikki saying he was dirty and disgusting.) Is poor hygiene and rudeness a direct result of such injuries in Gary's case? We don't know, so how would the HM's?

I just don't think avoidance is the best way to tackle misconceptions about disorders like Gary's.

We could be worried that someone might be racist in the house, but the answer isn't to only have hms of one race to make sure that doesn't happen. Integration and exposure is necessary to remove prejudice and stigma against, for example, other races or people with disabilities.

[jet]

They don't need to be fully aware of the effects Jet all they need is a bit more patience and tolerance.

But if they just think he's a dirty disgusting rude man who butts in on their conversations, spits and burps and doesn't flush the toilet for no reason then they aren't going to take kindly to him. Why would they? Do you want them to patronize him because of his age? I'm not sure a man who seems capable enough would appreciate that at all.
If Gary was 40 or 50 would you expect them to have patience and tolerance?
I don't think they need to tolerate his shortcomings because of his age - I think they need to because of his brain injuries - but if they don't know that is the cause then they aren't going to.
I think some of them are too harsh on him anyway, yes. I also think Gary is playing on it, yes....unless he has gone seriously downhill in the last 2 years since I last saw him in action, and that is quite possible.

[waylander1973]

You have completely ignored the entire point of the article and the charities cause.

You saying Gary shouldn't be in there is in fact discriminating against someone with a brain injury :facepalm:

Nothing to do with brain injuries but gary's mental state in having two brain operations which would change him as a result read the psychiatrist bit, the charity quite rightly are saying that the shows producers are not looking out for gary's needs.

The housemates only know about his motorcycle crash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rltTFFhTKYg&list=UUOIeG57ze1ZVvfpyJIloNrw&index=157, second what about his friends and family knowing his last two reality tv shows he appeared on he was picked on why did they step in tell him no do not do it.

Housemates are subjected to a medical exam are they not, the psychiatrist Charles Sophy has commented that gary has problems that he himself is not taken into account, if that's the case if you were a producer on that show knowing that fact would you put gary on the show.

The psychiatrist was saying his behavior on celebrity rehab was not his is fault.

Charles Sophy clearly thinks he needs help if he didn't seek it after that show, how's going on big brother going to help him out long term.

How saying is he shouldn't be on that show is discriminating against gary, some people brain injured or not are not psychology able to cope with the big brother game show.

[Josy]

Nothing to do with brain injuries but gary's mental state in having two brain operations which would change him as a result read the psychiatrist bit, the charity quite rightly are saying that the shows producers are not looking out for gary's needs.

The housemates only know about his motorcycle crash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rltTFFhTKYg&list=UUOIeG57ze1ZVvfpyJIloNrw&index=157, second what about his friends and family knowing his last two reality tv shows he appeared on he was picked on why did they step in tell him no do not do it.

Housemates are subjected to a medical exam are they not, the psychiatrist Charles Sophy has commented that gary has problems that he himself is not taken into account, if that's the case if you were a producer on that show knowing that fact would you put on the show.

The psychiatrist was saying his behavior on celebrity rehab was not his is fault.

Charles Sophy clearly thinks he needs help if he didn't seek it after that show, how's going on big brother going to help him out long term.

How saying is he shouldn't be on that show is discriminating against gary, some people brain injured or not are not psychology able to cope with the big brother game show.

Did you read the comment from channel 5 in regards to the charity?

They specifically said ALL housemates undergo separate medical testing before entering the house to ensure they are able to go on the show.

Gary has a brain injury and may need prompts for certain activities but he isn't incapable of doing things and he isn't showing any signs AT ALL of not being able to cope which is why I think jumping to the conclusion that he has a brain injury so he shouldn't be there is discriminating.

If Gary wants to do the show and he passed whatever medicals he needed to before entering then he has every right to be there.

[jet]

I just don't think avoidance is the best way to tackle misconceptions about disorders like Gary's.

We could be worried that someone might be racist in the house, but the answer isn't to only have hms of one race to make sure that doesn't happen. Integration and exposure is necessary to remove prejudice and stigma against, for example, other races or people with disabilities.

It's not the same thing at all. People of different races aren't mentally impaired in any way and are on a level with everyone else healthwise. If Gary has special needs, those needs should be attended to by a trained carer in the house, not by a pack of egotistical HM's in a dog eat dog environment which CBB always is by it's very nature.

At the very least, the HM's could have been educated as to the effects of a brain injury. Blame the bloody producers, who are watching his humiliations and doing **** all to remedy it, unless they know that Gary is playing a game too which I thought he might be given he seemed in fine fettle with no sign of brain problems just a few years ago. But I have my doubts now....maybe he is frailer...

[jet]

Did you read the comment from channel 5 in regards to the charity?

They specifically said ALL housemates undergo separate medical testing before entering the house to ensure they are able to go on the show.

Gary has a brain injury and may need prompts for certain activities but he isn't incapable of doing things and he isn't showing any signs AT ALL of not being able to cope which is why I think jumping to the conclusion that he has a brain injury so he shouldn't be there is discriminating.

If Gary wants to do the show and he passed whatever medicals he needed to before entering then he has every right to be there.

So if he can cope and is fit to be there why do you think the other HM's need to be patient and tolerant towards him? And if he needs prompts for certain activities why aren't those prompts given to him by BB, in the DR privately perhaps to avoid the HM's having to tell him - showering for example?

[jessicadanielle]

It's not the same thing at all. People of different races aren't mentally impaired in any way and are on a level with everyone else healthwise. If Gary has special needs, those needs should be attended to by a trained carer in the house, not by a pack of egotistical HM's in a dog eat dog environment which CBB always is by it's very nature.

At the very least, the HM's could have been educated as to the effects of a brain injury. Blame the bloody producers, who are watching his humiliations and doing **** all to remedy it, unless they know that Gary is playing a game too which I thought he might be given he seemed in fine fettle with no sign of brain problems just a few years ago. But I have my doubts now....maybe he is frailer...

Yeah good point about the race thing, it was a poor comparison on my part.

I'm not sure Gary has special needs though. I doubt that at home he has anyone specifically to care for him, just that his family will of course have been briefed on what they might expect. I definitely agree that the housemates needed to be educated about the effects of his injury too, and maybe reminded about it when they nom him for things that might be a result of his injury/hearing impairment.

Gary seems happy enough though. That doesn't justify any behaviour towards him of course, but I'm glad it doesn't seem to affect him :)

[waylander1973]

Did you read the comment from channel 5 in regards to the charity?

They specifically said ALL housemates undergo separate medical testing before entering the house to ensure they are able to go on the show.

Gary has a brain injury and may need prompts for certain activities but he isn't incapable of doing things and he isn't showing any signs AT ALL of not being able to cope which is why I think jumping to the conclusion that he has a brain injury so he shouldn't be there is discriminating.

If Gary wants to do the show and he passed whatever medicals he needed to before entering then he has every right to be there.

The charity never stated that gary should not be allowed on the show but gary needs are not being considered by the show's producers, in that gary's needs are not being looked out for in the house which they're complaining about not that he should be there or not.

if gary really needs to be told to take a shower for example why was left to james to tell him that and not big brother for example, if gary needs to told to do certain things to get by then it big brother's responsible to do that not the housemates, duty of care stuff.

[Josy]

So if he can cope and is fit to be there why do you think the other HM's need to be patient and tolerant towards him? And if he needs prompts for certain activities why aren't those prompts given to him by BB, in the DR privately perhaps to avoid the HM's having to tell him - showering for example?

I don't know for a fact if he needs prompts Jet which is why I said may, his partner possibly deals with things like that or maybe it's easier for him at home because he knows exactly where everything is and things like that, he did say to James if you get me some towels I will have a shower right away.

I think the housemates do need a bit more patience with him but that's more to do with the hearing issues.

[Josy]

The charity never stated that gary should not be allowed on the show but gary needs are not being considered by the show's producers, in that gary's needs are not being looked out for in the house which they're complaining about not that he should be there or not.

if gary really needs to be told to take a shower for example why was left to james to tell him that and not big brother for example, if gary needs to told to do certain things to get by then it big brother's responsible to do that not the housemates, duty of care stuff.

Like I just posted, maybe he doesn't need to be told that it could be multiple reasons why he never had a shower such as not know where things are or maybe he was just getting used to his surroundings.

I never said the charity stated he shouldn't do the show, I was replying to your comment about how he shouldn't be in the house, I disagree with that and I still think he is capable of being in the house.

[smileymummy]

Omg! this is so infuriating! disabled people should not be barred from anything i totally agree! i have a child thats on the spectrum! however i am sure this programme is being edited to make it look like hes being victimised! you wait and watch every single person come out that house saying how awfull it was to live with him!!!! and it aint right really is it?

[Josy]

Omg! this is so infuriating! disabled people should not be barred from anything i totally agree! i have a child thats on the spectrum! however i am sure this programme is being edited to make it look like hes being victimised! you wait and watch every single person come out that house saying how awfull it was to live with him!!!! and it aint right really is it?

Leslie never said he was awful to live with, he said he was hard work but not that he was awful.

[waylander1973]

Like I just posted, maybe he doesn't need to be told that it could be multiple reasons why he never had a shower such as not know where things are or maybe he was just getting used to his surroundings.

I never said the charity stated he shouldn't do the show, I was replying to your comment about how he shouldn't be in the house, I disagree with that and I still think he is capable of being in the house.

The charity was blaming channel 5 for failing to take care of gary, if he needs prompts from time to time to take care of himself, it's not for the housemates to do this since they have no or little training or understanding in such matters, it's channel 5 problem not the housemates.

Most of the housemates have adjusted to gary's hearing problems now. But if he needs extra help in other matters then the responsibly is on channel 5/big brother not the housemates, Duty of care.

He shouldn't be there because he being made to look foolish

[jet]

Look, what are we talking about here? Either Gary is capable or he isn't and the producers are the only ones that know that. Unless they are sadists, why would they let Rikki stand there and tell him he is dirty and disgusting, why would they let Stephanie say much the same thing standing over him stamping her foot and shouting in his face, why would they let George say he feels like he has come into an old peoples home :rant: and do NOTHING about it?
If Gary is considered by them to need even some leeway for any condition he may have then they need to address this pronto, because it's getting way past just being uncomfortable now.
If they know he is well capable for any of them and playing the game himself, then that's a different ballgame.
Either way, the concern over this is taking over the series which we all thought was going to be fun. :sad:

[Josy]

The charity was blaming channel 5 for failing to take care of gary, if he needs prompts from time to time to take care of himself, it's not for the housemates to do this since they have no or little training or understanding in such matters, it's channel 5 problem not the housemates.

Most of the housemates have adjusted to gary's hearing problems now. But if he needs extra help in other matters then the responsibly is on channel 5/big brother not the housemates, Duty of care.

He shouldn't be there because he being made to look foolish

Fair points but I actually think the charity are more concerned about the pack behaviour of the other housemates towards Gary? they mention the bitching, the nasty jokes and so on.

[michael21]

Fair points but I actually think the charity are more concerned about the pack behaviour of the other housemates towards Gary? they mention the bitching, the nasty jokes and so on.

well there can complain to ofcom cant there :grin2:

[waylander1973]

Fair points but I actually think the charity are more concerned about the pack behaviour of the other housemates towards Gary? they mention the bitching, the nasty jokes and so on.

Have said in other posts on this subject of some housemates treatment of him is wrong, mainly stephanie's and james's.

David getting angry with gary was more down to frustration with gary than malice towards him.

Dee talk it out with him and both just agreed to disagree with each other.

I really think some of others do not like him, but have they really gone after him in anyway, if you ignored the nominations that is.

Not really a pack as such.

[Josy]

Have said in other posts on this subject of some housemates treatment of him is wrong, mainly stephanie's and james's.

David getting angry with gary was more down to frustration with gary than malice towards him.

Dee talk it out with him and both just agreed to disagree with each other.

I really think some of others do not like him, but have they really gone after him in anyway, if you ignored the nominations that is.

Not really a pack as such.

I have to disagree with you tbh it was awful to watch them al avoiding him and bitching behind his back the other night on LF, then there was Dee telling lies saying he had cornered her when he never done that at all, he only spoke to her.

[jet]

Have said in other posts on this subject of some housemates treatment of him is wrong, mainly stephanie's and james's.

David getting angry with gary was more down to frustration with gary than malice towards him.

Dee talk it out with him and both just agreed to disagree with each other.

I really think some of others do not like him, but have they really gone after him in anyway, if you ignored the nominations that is.

Not really a pack as such.

What about George, he is so condescending towards him and tonight saying he didn't know he was coming into an old peoples home. That was the worst ever.

[waylander1973]

What about George, he is so condescending towards him and tonight saying he didn't know he was coming into an old peoples home. That was the worst ever.

Bad comment, but it is just one comment from george, to be bullying he would have to keep making those types of comments on a daily basis, for time will tell.:shrug:

[waylander1973]

I have to disagree with you tbh it was awful to watch them al avoiding him and bitching behind his back the other night on LF, then there was Dee telling lies saying he had cornered her when he never done that at all, he only spoke to her.

Bullying is face to face in what ever form, which what the charity is claiming, bitching behind someone back is not, as for dee the other housemates should have they own minds or least claire showed that she does.:blush:

As for housemates avoiding him, all the housemates he did walked up to did talk to him for a while but did walk away after a few minutes, maybe they were upset that david left and felt that the fact david was helping with his knee and david get crap from gary for it and ended up with david getting frustrated with gary as resulted of it got him evicted, upset them for a while they are human at the end of the day and maybe david was liked in the house.

[reece(:]

Gary remains unbothered whilst his haters stay pressed and full of anger.

[waylander1973]

Gary remains unbothered whilst his haters stay pressed and full of anger.

Best comment on gary i seen.:laugh:

[jaxie]

Omg! this is so infuriating! disabled people should not be barred from anything i totally agree! i have a child thats on the spectrum! however i am sure this programme is being edited to make it look like hes being victimised! you wait and watch every single person come out that house saying how awfull it was to live with him!!!! and it aint right really is it?

Now you are being ridiculous, however you edit it he has been called a pet for wanting to talk with someone. Told he isn't liked, been shouted at and called disgusting and dirty in front of the whole group by someone who is from a show where they have sex and get drunk on TV no less. Even when he tried to help with the pizza he was told not to touch anything by Dee because of Stephanie's phobia like he is some dirty old tramp. The truth is probably more that the man is looked after in real life and probably doesnt have to do a lot for himself. This phobia seems more like prejudices towards someone she doesn't like because she doesn't seem to mind playing kissyface with piddle lips George. Think of the germs Laurens piddle and Georges spit.

Also on bots Leslie said he wasn't that bad and he regretted how he had treated him. David knows he was wrong but is a bit dim and thinks he will get more respect by sticking to his story. Interestingly, like a lot of Gary haters on here, he has nothing to back it up with apart from saying Gary did 'loads of stuff.'

In the live feed last night they were being nasty about him, ridiculing him for trying to clean up. Someone even said he is right there. The reply was its OK he can't hear.
Sorry its not OK.

[chuff me dizzy]

No one dragged Gary into the bb house, he's squandered all his cash so he CHOSE to go in and should be treat the same as everyone else

[Jules2]

Leslie never said he was awful to live with, he said he was hard work but not that he was awful.

Tbh I was pleased with Leslies interview, he went up in my estimation a lot. It sounds as though he had actually listened and unerstood.

BB were wrong to ask James to moreorless look out for Gary as he is the worst one to do so, he just backstabs him. Now he is up Stephanies backsie because he fancies her (poor old wifey).

BB should have put Gary right in the direction of what to do if he was struggling. CBB would be great if we had great celebrities in there but we havent, as someone said the others should have just been in the ordinary one, then we neednt have watched it. I like true celebrities and the Americans have many. I do not know any of the others in this CBB. Sorry I knew James but he is forgettable, never liked him on Come Dancing, he may have had two left feet.

[jaxie]

No one dragged Gary into the bb house, he's squandered all his cash so he CHOSE to go in and should be treat the same as everyone else

I couldn't agree with you more and I'll be absolutely delighted when they start to treat him the same as they do each other.

[Jules2]

Omg! this is so infuriating! disabled people should not be barred from anything i totally agree! i have a child thats on the spectrum! however i am sure this programme is being edited to make it look like hes being victimised! you wait and watch every single person come out that house saying how awfull it was to live with him!!!! and it aint right really is it?

Hi Smiley, I know what you mean, I am in the same position so I sympathise but, had you seen the LF after the eviction you would see that nothing is edited in Gary's favour, that one was definitely edited to make the HMs look good but they werent. The one last night showed Gary sat on his own (possibly his choice) whilst the others toasted Leslie, Gary joined in from where he sat. Other than that all we saw was George and Stephanie with their childish behavious. George has a lot to learn and Stephanie is just a bi***.

The nominations showed Ricci and Stephanie up to be the cowards they are, that wasnt edited although some of the remarks from the others were.

[Jules2]

I couldn't agree with you more and I'll be absolutely delighted when they start to treat him the same as they do each other.

Hear hear Jaxie but I do not think it is going to happen. I thought George may have come down off his pedastal a bit but I now see his remarks re an Old Peoples Home, hopefully when he gets to that age no home will want him :cheer2: He is going to be in for a long long toil from couch to........well will he go down (gutter) or up, where will he go up to? Another programme on the couch....? James is in his glory because he thinks he has the others support but I do believe that Audley maybe just a little bit wiser, I hope so. Frenchy is a good buddy to Gary, for these reasons I will support her and Audley.

[Jules2]

Best comment on gary i seen.:laugh:

I hope he can stay like that for the next few days otherwise people will be having a ball and saying he is showing his true colours.

[Jules2]

Bullying is face to face in what ever form, which what the charity is claiming, bitching behind someone back is not, as for dee the other housemates should have they own minds or least claire showed that she does.:blush:

As for housemates avoiding him, all the housemates he did walked up to did talk to him for a while but did walk away after a few minutes, maybe they were upset that david left and felt that the fact david was helping with his knee and david get crap from gary for it and ended up with david getting frustrated with gary as resulted of it got him evicted, upset them for a while they are human at the end of the day and maybe david was liked in the house.

Gary wasnt responsible for David being evicted, David doesnt have a large fanbase and they didnt vote for him. Simple as that. He is an over egoistic young man full of his own importance. He cannot see what the public are saying but that is a cover up for his own behaviour in there. It was on the books that David would be the first out. Glad he went and hopefully we wont have to listen to him spouting off about his looks and over puffed up body.

[jet]

Tbh I was pleased with Leslies interview, he went up in my estimation a lot. It sounds as though he had actually listened and unerstood.

BB were wrong to ask James to moreorless look out for Gary as he is the worst one to do so, he just backstabs him. Now he is up Stephanies backsie because he fancies her (poor old wifey).

BB should have put Gary right in the direction of what to do if he was struggling. CBB would be great if we had great celebrities in there but we havent, as someone said the others should have just been in the ordinary one, then we neednt have watched it. I like true celebrities and the Americans have many. I do not know any of the others in this CBB. Sorry I knew James but he is forgettable, never liked him on Come Dancing, he may have had two left feet.

James was NOT told to look out for Gary, he was asked to help him integrate with the group initially because of his hearing problems because none of them were really taking that into account as much as they should.
If they HAD asked him to look out for him, it would have been grossly unfair on him or on anyone, as they have come into the house to enjoy themselves and it is difficult enough in there living with all those people without having responsibility for another person on your shoulders.
If you insist that he was asked to do that and I am mistaken, then maybe he feels a bit resentful? Because that would be understandable. But I still don't think he was. I think he likes Gary but he irritates him at the same time and I can see why. James isn't the most sensitive of people and is a twat a lot of the time but I think he means well.
When some of the Strictly dancers were teaching kids some moves he was patient and funny with them, The kids loved him and said he was their favourite. That counts for a lot. :shrug:

[Ellen]

James was NOT told to look out for Gary, he was asked to help him integrate with the group initially because of his hearing problems because none of them were really taking that into account as much as they should.
If they HAD asked him to look out for him, it would have been grossly unfair on him or on anyone, as they have come into the house to enjoy themselves and it is difficult enough in there living with all those people without having responsibility for another person on your shoulders.
If you insist that he was asked to do that and I am mistaken, then maybe he feels a bit resentful? Because that would be understandable. But I still don't think he was. I think he likes Gary but he irritates him at the same time and I can see why. James isn't the most sensitive of people and is a twat a lot of the time but I think he means well.
When some of the Strictly dancers were teaching kids some moves he was patient and funny with them, The kids loved him and said he was their favourite. That counts for a lot. :shrug:

Yes you are correct, BB did not ask him to look out for Gary they only suggested there was a possibility that Gary could be been isolated due to his hearing problem and for him & the group to take this into consideration.

[jaxie]

James was NOT told to look out for Gary, he was asked to help him integrate with the group initially because of his hearing problems because none of them were really taking that into account as much as they should.
If they HAD asked him to look out for him, it would have been grossly unfair on him or on anyone, as they have come into the house to enjoy themselves and it is difficult enough in there living with all those people without having responsibility for another person on your shoulders.
If you insist that he was asked to do that and I am mistaken, then maybe he feels a bit resentful? Because that would be understandable. But I still don't think he was. I think he likes Gary but he irritates him at the same time and I can see why. James isn't the most sensitive of people and is a twat a lot of the time but I think he means well.
When some of the Strictly dancers were teaching kids some moves he was patient and funny with them, The kids loved him and said he was their favourite. That counts for a lot. :shrug:

What they actually did was give James a warning. The language used James interpreted as being asked to look out for Gary.

[jet]

What they actually did was give James a warning. The language used James interpreted as being asked to look out for Gary.

He was NOT given a warning.

[jaxie]

He was NOT given a warning.

He sure was.

[jessicadanielle]

He sure was.

I don't think it was a warning. More like a prompt to make sure Gary stays included in the group, within which James was reminded that he hadn't been all that friendly so far.

[jaxie]

I don't think it was a warning. More like a prompt to make sure Gary stays included in the group, within which James was reminded that he hadn't been all that friendly so far.

I've been looking or the clip but I can't find it. I'm pretty sure it was along the same lines as the warnings others got.

[jet]

I've been looking or the clip but I can't find it. I'm pretty sure it was along the same lines as the warnings others got.

You can say it a thousand times, but it won't make it true. :sleep: