'He's a VILE human being' CBB James sticks knife into winner Gary

[Gusto Brunt]

'The former Strictly professional dancer revealed how he was forced to act like a carer to Gary, 70 – including clearing up his excrement.

“I think the way it was edited, the public saw him as a fun Hollywood superstar that’s a little bit eccentric, feeling sorry for him because people bullied him – that was not the case,” he told the Daily Star Online in an exclusive chat.

“12 people can’t come out of the house and all say the same thing and be wrong. He’s a vile, vile human being. Fact.”

He continued: “When I took him for a shower I saw parts of his body that no young man should have to see, especially when they’re not your family.

“Wiping his s*** off the toilet seat after he’s been to the toilet, and then he’s sitting at the table with s*** on his hands and you have to tell him to go and wash them.

“I’m not a baby sitter and I’m not a nurse and I’m not qualified to deal with those sorts of situations,” he added."

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http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-brother/399682/Celebrity-Big-Brother-s-James-Jordan-Gary-Busey-is-a-vile-human-being

He doesn't let up, does he?? :nono:

[Josy]

Oh well **** happens

[Gusto Brunt]

Oh well **** happens

Literally. :joker::joker:

[Liam-]

He has a point though, he wasn't in there to look after Gary, nor should he have been expected to, none of them should of had to deal with that.

[Denver]

It wouldnt surprise me if james **** on the toilet to blame gary

[Jules2]

He has a point though, he wasn't in there to look after Gary, nor should he have been expected to, none of them should of had to deal with that.

Then they should have treated him as an equal and not made themselves better than Gary. I dont suppose Gary went in there to be domineered by an overbearing person one who couldnt take it when the tables were turned.

As Audley said, as he was asked Gary repaired, he saw what was going on and he told James not to include him in it. Well done Audley the voice of reason.

All James was asked to do by BB was to make sure that Gary wasnt segregated, he made more trouble for him than he helped.

[Jules2]

It wouldnt surprise me if james **** on the toilet to blame gary

Who knows eh as Adelle said Gary was easy pickings. She was horrified when Audley nominated her and not Gary she told him so.

[Liam-]

Then they should have treated him as an equal and not made themselves better than Gary. I dont suppose Gary went in there to be domineered by an overbearing person one who couldnt take it when the tables were turned.

As Audley said, as he was asked Gary repaired, he saw what was going on and he told James not to include him in it. Well done Audley the voice of reason.

If he can't shower without being told to, then people will feel the need to tell him to and make sure he looked after himself, if he didn't want to be treated like someone who needed a carer, he should have done everything for himself and took care of himself shouldn't he?

[sassysocks]

If he can't shower without being told to, then people will feel the need to tell him to and make sure he looked after himself, if he didn't want to be treated like someone who needed a carer, he should have done everything for himself and took care of himself shouldn't he?

What an ignorant comment - not really worth the time. :nono:

[Denver]

If he can't shower without being told to, then people will feel the need to tell him to and make sure he looked after himself, if he didn't want to be treated like someone who needed a carer, he should have done everything for himself and took care of himself shouldn't he?

If he doesnt want to shower the its non of james buisness simples

[Liam-]

What an ignorant comment - not really worth the time. :nono:

How is it ignorant? If Gary didn't want to be looked after and legally doesn't require a carer, he should have done things for himself, such as showering and cleaning himself without having to be told to, washing up after himself and general cleanliness, people go into CBB to have a good experience and because they're paid to, they're not paid to go in there and become someone's temporary carer.

[Cherie]

How is it ignorant? If Gary didn't want to be looked after and legally doesn't require a carer, he should have done things for himself, such as showering and cleaning cleaning himself, cleaning, general cleanliness, people go ino CBB to have a good experience and because they're paid to, they're not paid to go in there and become someone's temporary carer.

I noticed on several occasions that Dee's hair was greasy and looked unwashed, did anyone ask her to wash it? Only self appointed house mama Dee, and house papa James seemed to want to be his "carer". They did it so they could boss him around and make themselves look good.

[Patricia4]

Nobody know's if this is true the vile gang had their head's together all the time talking about him I don't believe all the rubbish.I never saw any of them looking after Gary all they did was take the piss out of him one person that cared about him was Audley.

[ThriceShy]

He keeps saying 12 people cant be wrong. It works both ways. The huge proportion of the public that voted can't be wrong.

[Jules2]

How is it ignorant? If Gary didn't want to be looked after and legally doesn't require a carer, he should have done things for himself, such as showering and cleaning cleaning himself, cleaning, general cleanliness, people go ino CBB to have a good experience and because they're paid to, they're not paid to go in there and become someone's temporary carer.

and they are not paid to go in there to be bullied, to be put down as in James telling him right from the beginning that noone liked him. The only person who was shown in that shower was Dee, no one else was. Now when it was pointed out to Gary that the others were on about him not showering that was enough. He began showering, this is proven by Kellie saying that he had seen his bits when he came out of the shower. Audley saying that he was cleaning up after himself.

Much has been made out of one or two incidences but have any of them looked at their habits. Shall we look back and count how many there are? It has all been pot calling kettle black and it is about time the two sour graped ex HMs let it all go, they are only making it bad for themselves.

In the beginning the programme was started to show how a group of people could learn from each other, learn people skills and consideration....it has sorely lost its way.

[ThriceShy]

Nobody know's if this is true the vile gang had their head's together all the time talking about him I don't believe all the rubbish.I never saw any of them looking after Gary all they did was take the piss out of him one person that cared about him was Audley.

I would like james and george to explain why they berated gary for not cleaning up but then mocked him when he was cleaning up.

[ThriceShy]

It is interesting that James says Gary is a vile human being because, during the big row that Gary had with Dee, James kept telling Gary "We all love you."

So he was lying again.

[poppsywoppsy]

I ask how did James feel after Lauren peed in the pool.

Was she castigated by the housemates, is it brought up at every opportunity, has she brain damage or hearing and mobility problems, no, of course not.

So, the toilet has to be cleaned, I have heard worse than that by previous BB housemates who were quite happy to leave bodily fluids around and had none of the problems Gary had.

Shut up James, you were outclassed in the career hierarchy by both Gary and Audley, your deliberate intentions to bring them down failed miserably and even now you cannot get over the fact that they won and you didn't, your game plan failed.

[puzzled]

How does a group/society treat its weakest members? James was paid to interact with whomever was in the house--not those of his own choosing. He failed on every level of common decency and compassion. And, buddy, you are no longer a youmg man.

[Jules2]

He keeps saying 12 people cant be wrong. It works both ways. The huge proportion of the public that voted can't be wrong.

He cant count, Leslie declared he had to apologise to Gary's family for the way he treated him. Stephanie made her peace with Gary and it was deemed to be the reason why the public got her out. Audley was the sensible one, Frenchy loved him and I believe that Claire became team Gary after leaving and seeing what was going on. Not sure on that one. Kelly said that Gary had never been rude to her and he told Dee that he was ok but Dee turned her nose up at her. To me that is 6 less.

So who do we have left, the sourgrapers and the ones still in the sheep pen, although Edelle did say that she was touched with Garys letter whilst Dee said she was going to sort Steffanie out and called her a "bitch", I wonder if she has, I would love to see who won. Team Steffanie for me.

[Tip]

How does a group/society treat its weakest members? James was paid to interact with whomever was in the house--not those of his own choosing. He failed on every level of common decency and compassion. And, buddy, you are no longer a youmg man.



Actually if it does nothing else, I hope it does make people open their eyes and actually look at how society is treating it's most vulnerable - and maybe try do something about it.

[sassysocks]

How is it ignorant? If Gary didn't want to be looked after and legally doesn't require a carer, he should have done things for himself, such as showering and cleaning himself without having to be told to, washing up after himself and general cleanliness, people go into CBB to have a good experience and because they're paid to, they're not paid to go in there and become someone's temporary carer.

James should have left him alone and stopped doing everything is his power to undermine a brain-damaged old man. No one cares about his constant whining and wittering about hard done by he was. In the minds of decent people, James simply exposed the small-minded bully he is. His jealousy of Gary was a true measure of his own limited character.

Perhaps making an effort to find out how age and brain injury can affect a person and their abilities to carry out what are simple acts of cleanliness when we are young, might not go amiss. Not legally requiring a carer does not mean that an elderly person does not still find such activies difficult. You clearly demonstrate a complete inabilty to understand that.

If you object to old people who find this difficult going into bb, maybe you should voice that opinon to bb and attempt to encourage them to disciminate against old people and keep the show simply for the plastic, brain-dead rubbish from Towie and Geordie Shaw. I think far more people would be offended by that!

[Liam-]

James should have left him alone and stopped doing everything is his power to undermine a brain-damaged old man. No one cares about his constant whining and wittering about hard done by he was. In the minds of decent people, James simply exposed the small-minded bully he is. His jealousy of Gary was a true measure of his own limited character.

Perhaps making an effort to find out how age and brain injury can affect a person and their abilities to carry out what are simple acts of cleanliness when we are young, might not go amiss. Not legally requiring a carer does not mean that an elderly person does not still find such activies difficult. You clearly demonstrate a complete inabilty to understand that.

If you object to old people who find this difficult going into bb, maybe you should voice that opinon to bb and attempt to encourage them to disciminate against old people and keep the show simply for the plastic, brain-dead rubbish from Towie and Geordie Shaw. I think far more people would be offended by that!

I don't have a lack of understanding when it comes to that tyvm, i'm perfectly aware that old people have difficulties.

I think the problem is that people are painting Gary out to be this fragile old man when he's not, he was rolling around on the floor with the rest of them one day towards the end of the series, even with his knee brace on, people who need help to even get into the shower, can't do that.

I never once said i object to older people going onto the show did i? I simply said that no-one went in there to look after him, they aren't carers, nor did they sign up to be, Gary is way more capable that anyone is giving him credit for, people shouldn't have to be running round after him 24/7 in there, but they did go out of their way to help him, whether they disliked him or not, whether they bitched about him or not, it doesn't take away from them doing things for him when they didn't need to, but they did because they felt they had to.

[Jules2]

The fool has now apparently been banned from Strictly, does he ever learn. There is a time to keep ones mouth closed no matter what one thinks. If Ola takes over she is silly as she was in trouble a while back. Just imagine they could have been on the Hollywood trail with Gary Busey had he not been such a pr***. Maybe not our cup of tea but these so called celebrities would love the chance. Fred Astaire made it....I am sure Gary would have helped him.

[rusticgal]

'The former Strictly professional dancer revealed how he was forced to act like a carer to Gary, 70 – including clearing up his excrement.

“I think the way it was edited, the public saw him as a fun Hollywood superstar that’s a little bit eccentric, feeling sorry for him because people bullied him – that was not the case,” he told the Daily Star Online in an exclusive chat.

“12 people can’t come out of the house and all say the same thing and be wrong. He’s a vile, vile human being. Fact.”

He continued: “When I took him for a shower I saw parts of his body that no young man should have to see, especially when they’re not your family.

“Wiping his s*** off the toilet seat after he’s been to the toilet, and then he’s sitting at the table with s*** on his hands and you have to tell him to go and wash them.

“I’m not a baby sitter and I’m not a nurse and I’m not qualified to deal with those sorts of situations,” he added."

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http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-brother/399682/Celebrity-Big-Brother-s-James-Jordan-Gary-Busey-is-a-vile-human-being

He doesn't let up, does he?? :nono:


No he doesn't.
Bitter, twisted. It's sad that he continues to belittle, expose and embarrass Gary Busey just to big himself up.
If he shat on your face James he would still be a better human being than you will ever be.
James would expose and embarrass anyone if he thinks it makes him a better person....but then maybe it's 'a joke'...

Get over it James...you lost and not only did you lose you have shown us all what a complete and utter knob you are.

[Tip]

I see the great and positive influence Gary has had - bodes well for us all.

[rusticgal]

I don't have a lack of understanding when it comes to that tyvm, i'm perfectly aware that old people have difficulties.

I think the problem is that people are painting Gary out to be this fragile old man when he's not, he was rolling around on the floor with the rest of them one day towards the end of the series, even with his knee brace on, people who need help to even get into the shower, can't do that.

I never once said i object to older people going onto the show did i? I simply said that no-one went in there to look after him, they aren't carers, nor did they sign up to be, Gary is way more capable that anyone is giving him credit for, people shouldn't have to be running round after him 24/7 in there, but they did go out of their way to help him, whether they disliked him or not, whether they bitched about him or not, it doesn't take away from them doing things for him when they didn't need to, but they did because they felt they had to.


Well James doesn't cook.... Nobody resented cooking for him.

[Jules2]

I don't have a lack of understanding when it comes to that tyvm, i'm perfectly aware that old people have difficulties.

I think the problem is that people are painting Gary out to be this fragile old man when he's not, he was rolling around on the floor with the rest of them one day towards the end of the series, even with his knee brace on, people who need help to even get into the shower, can't do that.

I never once said i object to older people going onto the show did i? I simply said that no-one went in there to look after him, they aren't carers, nor did they sign up to be, Gary is way more capable that anyone is giving him credit for, people shouldn't have to be running round after him 24/7 in there, but they did go out of their way to help him, whether they disliked him or not, whether they bitched about him or not, it doesn't take away from them doing things for him when they didn't need to, but they did because they felt they
had to.

No of course he isnt a frail old man, this is what I am saying, this is where they went wrong. They assumed they were better than him rather than look at the positive side of his personality they looked at the 70, his hearing and I have no doubt they were told he had had brain surgery. As we seek so shall we find. His hearing was the main problem.

I said in the beginning he knew what he was doing and he had them in the palm of his hands but, of course, it is a game and each had their own agenda. They chose the scenes. Things were pointed out and he repaired as I said. I went into a lot of vts his charity work, his shows, his chat shows, he is someone to be admired whether we like it or not. He is full of talent.

[rusticgal]

Nobody know's if this is true the vile gang had their head's together all the time talking about him I don't believe all the rubbish.I never saw any of them looking after Gary all they did was take the piss out of him one person that cared about him was Audley.


He probably had one or two accidents and they have just exaggerated. I am sure if he was that bad, he wouldn't have been allowed in there and I doubt his wife would have wanted those issues exposed if he was that vulnerable.

[Liam-]

No of course he isnt a frail old man, this is what I am saying, this is where they went wrong. They assumed they were better than him rather than look at the positive side of his personality they looked at the 70, his hearing and I have no doubt they were told he had had brain surgery. As we seek so shall we find. His hearing was the main problem.

I said in the beginning he knew what he was doing and he had them in the palm of his hands but, of course, it is a game and each had their own agenda. They chose the scenes. Things were pointed out and he repaired as I said. I went into a lot of vts his charity work, his shows, his chat shows, he is someone to be admired whether we like it or not. He is full of talent.

But then from the other side, if they did nothing for him and told him to do everything for himself, they'd probably still be in the wrong for not helping him.

In my eyes i genuinely don't think that they saw him as 'below' themselves, they saw an old man, who might need help with things so they helped him without questioning it first, it's a natural reaction, if you see an older person walking down the street carrying something that looks heavy, you ask if they need any help, it's natural, i don't think they should be punished for just doing what everyone else would do.
It's not wanting to belittle someone or defame them, it just acknowledging that some old people may need help, whereas a lot of them don't, like Gary, he was capable of doing the majority of things for himself, but the things he couldn't or wouldn't do for himself, he needed a little nudge along in order for him to do so.

[sassysocks]

But then from the other side, if they did nothing for him and told him to do everything for himself, they'd probably still be in the wrong for not helping him.

In my eyes i genuinely don't think that they saw him as 'below' themselves, they saw an old man, who might need help with things so they helped him without questioning it first, it's a natural reaction, if you see an older person walking down the street carrying something that looks heavy, you ask if they need any help, it's natural, i don't think they should be punished for just doing what everyone else would do.
It's not wanting to belittle someone or defame them, it just acknowledging that some old people may need help, whereas a lot of them don't, like Gary, he was capable of doing the majority of things for himself, but the things he couldn't or wouldn't do for himself, he needed a little nudge along in order for him to do so.

James's constant public whining about Gary's lack of hygeine and telling the world he s**t on the toilet seat is attempting to belittle and defame him. A decent man would put it behind him and accept defeat. But James is only out for himself.

Despite the fact Gary did not say a bad word about him at his interview, which he would have been entitled to do, James still feels the need to attack him and humiliate him at every opportunity. Every time he opens that thin-lipped beak of his, more vile, bitter rubbish comes out of it. He is out to court publicity at all cost, and sadly at the expense of an old Hollywood legend.

But Gary beat him again, because he showed himself to have class in the things that matter and simply gave the vile James enough rope to hang himself.

[Vicky.]

“12 people can’t come out of the house and all say the same thing and be wrong. He’s a vile, vile human being. Fact.”

12 people didnt..as far as I am aware..only his group? I do not recall frenchie, kellie or claire saying anything bad...and Audley went into quite a bit of detail about how gary HAD changed his ways :shrug:

Anyway, James is a monumental arsehole so I would never take what he said seriously really..especially when apparently his own wife said he bullied Gary and he still wont believe it :joker:

[the truth]

james is an evil boring bigot

[rosie1991]

james is an evil boring bigot

Well, that may be a little harsh. But there's an anger in him that shows in his eyes that seems even worse when he's smiling. I find him a scary person and would avoid him if I ever had the misfortune to be in his company.

Thankfully that is not likely to happen.

[Mick]

Lets not forget that on the 2nd or 3rd day James twice made an implied threat of violence towards an elderly gentleman who was a visitor to this country. If you look at James face he was not joking it was meant as a threat.

He is a very sad person who will always be remembered for his horrible behaviours which he calls being honest and having humour. ? To coin an American phrase "What goes around comes around" Think on that James.

[jaxie]

Oh well **** happens
:joker:

I don't get how needing help like many older people do makes him a 'vile person'. Every time James opens his massive spoiled gob he just makes himself look a bigger tosser.

[jaxie]

He has a point though, he wasn't in there to look after Gary, nor should he have been expected to, none of them should of had to deal with that.
Have you nor James never used a public toilet. Its a fact that a toilet used by many is seldom a delight.

[Liam-]

Have you nor James never used a public toilet. Its a fact that a toilet used by many is seldom a delight.

I would never step foot into a public toilet exactly for that reason :laugh:
I can't speak for James though.

[jaxie]

James should have left him alone and stopped doing everything is his power to undermine a brain-damaged old man. No one cares about his constant whining and wittering about hard done by he was. In the minds of decent people, James simply exposed the small-minded bully he is. His jealousy of Gary was a true measure of his own limited character.

Perhaps making an effort to find out how age and brain injury can affect a person and their abilities to carry out what are simple acts of cleanliness when we are young, might not go amiss. Not legally requiring a carer does not mean that an elderly person does not still find such activies difficult. You clearly demonstrate a complete inabilty to understand that.

If you object to old people who find this difficult going into bb, maybe you should voice that opinon to bb and attempt to encourage them to disciminate against old people and keep the show simply for the plastic, brain-dead rubbish from Towie and Geordie Shaw. I think far more people would be offended by that!
:clap1:

[SocietyIsRuined]

“I’m not a baby sitter and I’m not a nurse and I’m not qualified to deal with those sorts of situations,” he added."

You are qualified because you will end up doing it in life for one of your family. Seems like James thinks he's above helping out the elderly.

[Kazanne]

'The former Strictly professional dancer revealed how he was forced to act like a carer to Gary, 70 – including clearing up his excrement.

“I think the way it was edited, the public saw him as a fun Hollywood superstar that’s a little bit eccentric, feeling sorry for him because people bullied him – that was not the case,” he told the Daily Star Online in an exclusive chat.

“12 people can’t come out of the house and all say the same thing and be wrong. He’s a vile, vile human being. Fact.”

He continued: “When I took him for a shower I saw parts of his body that no young man should have to see, especially when they’re not your family.

“Wiping his s*** off the toilet seat after he’s been to the toilet, and then he’s sitting at the table with s*** on his hands and you have to tell him to go and wash them.

“I’m not a baby sitter and I’m not a nurse and I’m not qualified to deal with those sorts of situations,” he added."

http://images.dailystar-uk.co.uk/dynamic/47/photos/682000/620x/541471d811e6e_FLY_1096553_CBB_FINAL_029.jpg

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-brother/399682/Celebrity-Big-Brother-s-James-Jordan-Gary-Busey-is-a-vile-human-being

He doesn't let up, does he?? :nono:

The knob didn't have to do those things,and what does he think he will see when he takes someone for a shower!!!! I DONT BELIEVE HE DID THAT ANYWAY,Gary was quite capable of showering according to that hilarious gif doing the rounds,lol, James pretended to be caring to curry favour with the public,unfortunately for him his uncaring arrogant side won over all the time,bitter loser,bitter person,bitter lemon.James and The Daily Star sounds about right ,both full of shyte.

[Jules2]

But then from the other side, if they did nothing for him and told him to do everything for himself, they'd probably still be in the wrong for not helping him.

In my eyes i genuinely don't think that they saw him as 'below' themselves, they saw an old man, who might need help with things so they helped him without questioning it first, it's a natural reaction, if you see an older person walking down the street carrying something that looks heavy, you ask if they need any help, it's natural, i don't think they should be punished for just doing what everyone else would do.
It's not wanting to belittle someone or defame them, it just acknowledging that some old people may need help, whereas a lot of them don't, like Gary, he was capable of doing the majority of things for himself, but the things he couldn't or wouldn't do for himself, he needed a little nudge along in order for him to do so.

We are going to have to disagree on this one Liam, why are they being punished, they are punishing themselves. Dee and James had an oppourtunity to let things stay in the house. They didnt they brought it out at BBOTS. Dee's behaviour was disgusting, the pair of them are still carrying on.

He didnt need help, he slipped up, was asked to better himself and he did. Who else slipped up, mm let me think .... See what you are really saying is that Stephanie and James were right to say he should be in a dog kennel, that meant that they thought he was a lesser subject, there are so many things if we go back over. Babysitter, carers etc. etc. Not a good example for Ricci's children (when he has them) so was Ricci climbing all over a middleaged woman a good example? I was ok with him until he said that. The insults which have been given, so they are ok? We try and bring people down because it makes us feel better, it makes us forget our own inadequacies. Mind you as we get older we learn that it isnt right and we accept that we are as good as anybody, we then learn empathy.

Gary really put James in his place but James couldnt take it, he went into the DR the eyes and ears of the public, he declared that Audley, Kellie and Gary were .... cant remember his exact words but they meant that they were below him, why should he take any notice, how dare BB do such a thing! He could not and still does not take criticism.

There is so much Liam, I am of the older generation and to me it has been very ageist, this is borne out by the fact that it was ok for George to bear his bottom but not for Gary. So many other things and I object. You are a young man and I feel you want to stand up against us. On the other hand your grandad is a lucky chappie to have such a lovely grandson.

Re the elderly, not everyone appreciates the help and most would like to ask for it first, when others take over it can be seen as patronising. One has to be very careful there because not everyone has a sense of humour. I remember someone asking my husband if he wanted a seat (I was sat down on a side seat) he refused but I made everyone laugh as I looked up and said "there it shows you are getting old). Well in my books a laugh a day keeps the doctor away. Anyway love you have fun, we will never agree on this one. I never argued over Helen I stood up for Chris but I couldnt stand Helen and didnt think she should have won.

Before I close I will say that I have grandchildren and they treasure me, I feel well blessed, I understand the young but sometimes it is hard for the young to understand the old. For mine we are all the same young and old and we work together.

[poppsywoppsy]

I have another view of Gary being accused of pushing Lauren out of the way which wasn't thought of by those oh so quick to accuse him of nearly everything, hadn't thought of.

He had a knee brace and when his knee joint became out of its place, he would have been in agony and needed to sit down as soon as he could to take the weight off it and replace the brace correctly.

I have a really bad back and after a while need to sit down, even on strong painkillers and when it becomes unbearable, it is hard not to panic to reach the nearest chair. I think Lauren was in his way, his first thought was to ease the pain and I can see that this is what he did and Lauren was pushed to the side.

But not in the book of the other horrible housemates, oh he pushed a woman, how rude. I back Gary totally as he apologised afterwards when his pain eased, Lauren agreed but James, Edelle and Dee kept on and on.

I found Dee, James, Edelle and George to be the most selfish people I have ever seen and I hope they get their fair share of criticism out of the house.

[Vanessa]

I have another view of Gary being accused of pushing Lauren out of the way which wasn't thought of by those oh so quick to accuse him of nearly everything, hadn't thought of.

He had a knee brace and when his knee joint became out of its place, he would have been in agony and needed to sit down as soon as he could to take the weight off it and replace the brace correctly.

I have a really bad back and after a while need to sit down, even on strong painkillers and when it becomes unbearable, it is hard not to panic to reach the nearest chair. I think Lauren was in his way, his first thought was to ease the pain and I can see that this is what he did and Lauren was pushed to the side.

But not in the book of the other horrible housemates, oh he pushed a woman, how rude. I back Gary totally as he apologised afterwards when his pain eased, Lauren agreed but James, Edelle and Dee kept on and on.

I found Dee, James, Edelle and George to be the most selfish people I have ever seen and I hope they get their fair share of criticism out of the house.

:clap1: Those four are truly the scum of the earth. :yuk:

[kirklancaster]

It wouldnt surprise me if james **** on the toilet to blame gary

Sorry Adamski - But all of James **** spews out of his mouth. Why I bet he even has brown smears on that flesh-pink lip gloss he wears, vile bastard.:laugh::joker::thumbs:

[kirklancaster]

We are going to have to disagree on this one Liam, why are they being punished, they are punishing themselves. Dee and James had an oppourtunity to let things stay in the house. They didnt they brought it out at BBOTS. Dee's behaviour was disgusting, the pair of them are still carrying on.

He didnt need help, he slipped up, was asked to better himself and he did. Who else slipped up, mm let me think .... See what you are really saying is that Stephanie and James were right to say he should be in a dog kennel, that meant that they thought he was a lesser subject, there are so many things if we go back over. Babysitter, carers etc. etc. Not a good example for Ricci's children (when he has them) so was Ricci climbing all over a middleaged woman a good example? I was ok with him until he said that. The insults which have been given, so they are ok? We try and bring people down because it makes us feel better, it makes us forget our own inadequacies. Mind you as we get older we learn that it isnt right and we accept that we are as good as anybody, we then learn empathy.

Gary really put James in his place but James couldnt take it, he went into the DR the eyes and ears of the public, he declared that Audley, Kellie and Gary were .... cant remember his exact words but they meant that they were below him, why should he take any notice, how dare BB do such a thing! He could not and still does not take criticism.

There is so much Liam, I am of the older generation and to me it has been very ageist, this is borne out by the fact that it was ok for George to bear his bottom but not for Gary. So many other things and I object. You are a young man and I feel you want to stand up against us. On the other hand your grandad is a lucky chappie to have such a lovely grandson.

Re the elderly, not everyone appreciates the help and most would like to ask for it first, when others take over it can be seen as patronising. One has to be very careful there because not everyone has a sense of humour. I remember someone asking my husband if he wanted a seat (I was sat down on a side seat) he refused but I made everyone laugh as I looked up and said "there it shows you are getting old). Well in my books a laugh a day keeps the doctor away. Anyway love you have fun, we will never agree on this one. I never argued over Helen I stood up for Chris but I couldnt stand Helen and didnt think she should have won.

Before I close I will say that I have grandchildren and they treasure me, I feel well blessed, I understand the young but sometimes it is hard for the young to understand the old. For mine we are all the same young and old and we work together.

:clap1::clap1::thumbs:

[kirklancaster]

The knob didn't have to do those things,and what does he think he will see when he takes someone for a shower!!!! I DONT BELIEVE HE DID THAT ANYWAY,Gary was quite capable of showering according to that hilarious gif doing the rounds,lol, James pretended to be caring to curry favour with the public,unfortunately for him his uncaring arrogant side won over all the time,bitter loser,bitter person,bitter lemon.James and The Daily Star sounds about right ,both full of shyte.
:clap1::clap1:

[kirklancaster]

Well, that may be a little harsh. But there's an anger in him that shows in his eyes that seems even worse when he's smiling. I find him a scary person and would avoid him if I ever had the misfortune to be in his company.

Thankfully that is not likely to happen.

:clap1::clap1:

I'm older than him but would love the chance to be in a toilet with him with no witnesses. I swear I would make this vile immature bully dance - to my tune.

[Jase.]

And how many times did James tell Gary that he loved him in the house? Disgusting, 2-faced ****

[waylander1973]

'The former Strictly professional dancer revealed how he was forced to act like a carer to Gary, 70 – including clearing up his excrement.

“I think the way it was edited, the public saw him as a fun Hollywood superstar that’s a little bit eccentric, feeling sorry for him because people bullied him – that was not the case,” he told the Daily Star Online in an exclusive chat.

“12 people can’t come out of the house and all say the same thing and be wrong. He’s a vile, vile human being. Fact.”

He continued: “When I took him for a shower I saw parts of his body that no young man should have to see, especially when they’re not your family.

“Wiping his s*** off the toilet seat after he’s been to the toilet, and then he’s sitting at the table with s*** on his hands and you have to tell him to go and wash them.

“I’m not a baby sitter and I’m not a nurse and I’m not qualified to deal with those sorts of situations,” he added."

http://images.dailystar-uk.co.uk/dynamic/47/photos/682000/620x/541471d811e6e_FLY_1096553_CBB_FINAL_029.jpg

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-brother/399682/Celebrity-Big-Brother-s-James-Jordan-Gary-Busey-is-a-vile-human-being

He doesn't let up, does he?? :nono:

I bought the paper today and in gary's interview he said that every housemate was rude towards him but james and george was the worst.

And gary says I wasn't rude - they were rude to me. james and george especially. they were a tandem team of rudeness every day.

If this the case is only audley was not rude towards him according to gary.

Can't find it on line by the way.

[Tip]

I bought the paper today and in gary's interview he said that every housemate was rude towards him but james and george was the worst.

And gary says I wasn't rude - they were rude to me. james and george especially. they were a tandem team of rudeness every day.

If this is only audley was not rude towards him according to gary.

Can't find it on line by the way.


Lol, even Frenchy.

I reckon each and everyone of them could call the other rude and find examples if they wanted to. Hope this all doesn't go on too long as it is not exactly doing anyone any favours now.

[susie q]

He has a point though, he wasn't in there to look after Gary, nor should he have been expected to, none of them should of had to deal with that.

Why not they all got well paid, why shouldnt that include giving assistance to another housemate if necessary.

[Liam-]

Why not they all got well paid, why shouldnt that include giving assistance to another housemate if necessary.

Because they're not carers? and they don't put people in there that need carers..

[ThriceShy]

Because they're not carers? and they don't put people in there that need carers..

Well maybe if they had cared a bit more they might have had a chance of winning.

We can debate all we like about the merits of putting him in there but when the housemates entered they were faced with an elderly man with health problems. They should have gone from there.

[ThriceShy]

When did this poo on the hands incident happen?

It seems odd that it was never shown or mentioned in the programme, but the shower thing was.

[sassysocks]

Because they're not carers? and they don't put people in there that need carers..

He didn't need carers - but James took it upon himself to force his assistance on Gary because Gary wasn't doing things to his satisfaction. He singled Gary out because he considered him his biggest threat and he made an easy target because of his age.

Every year people complain about the bb house being filthy - men peeing on the toilet seat etc - but never has anyone made such a big fuss about it as James.

If James couldn't cope with some other people's level of hygeine - he shouldn't have gone in there. Personally I have more of a problem with the filth that comes of of James' mouth than how often an elderly man has a shower.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Hate to say it but I agree with him.

12 other people cant be wrong, are we all really that gullable and believing the edit over the actual people who have lived with him?

Don't get me wrong I loved Gary as a housemate but these people had to live with him and from what 99% of them are saying its clear we were only shown one side of Garys character.

[Liam-]

He didn't need carers - but James took it upon himself to force his assistance on Gary because Gary wasn't doing things to his satisfaction. He singled Gary out because he considered him his biggest threat and he made an easy target because of his age.

Every year people complain about the bb house being filthy - men peeing on the toilet seat etc - but never has anyone made such a big fuss about it as James.

If James couldn't cope with some other people's level of hygeine - he shouldn't have gone in there. Personally I have more of a problem with the filth that comes of of James' mouth than how often an elderly man has a shower.

Why should he have to cope with someone not washing? or someone pissing on the toilet seat, or not flushing the toilet after them.. just cause other people might not have made a fuss over it doesn't mean everyone else should silently deal with it.

[sassysocks]

Why should he have to cope with someone not washing? or someone pissing on the toilet seat, or not flushing the toilet after them.. just cause other people might not have made a fuss over it doesn't mean everyone else should silently deal with it.

And why should an elderly man have James' hygiene standards forced on him. With people of a certain age, you make allowances. It is a simple as that.

James wasn't big enough to do so. He was far more concerned with using the situation to belittle Gary and gain airtime for himself. Total creep.

[Liam-]

And why should an elderly man have James' hygiene standards forced on him. With people of a certain age, you make allowances. It is a simple as that.

James wasn't big enough to do so. He was far more concerned with using the situation to belittle Gary and gain airtime for himself. Total creep.

Not that many allowances I'm afraid.

[ThriceShy]

Not that many allowances I'm afraid.

What did gary do that was so terrible?

[ThriceShy]

Why should he have to cope with someone not washing? or someone pissing on the toilet seat, or not flushing the toilet after them.. just cause other people might not have made a fuss over it doesn't mean everyone else should silently deal with it.



All of that is minor compared to pissing in the pool.

[sassysocks]

Not that many allowances I'm afraid.

Give me an eccentric old Hollywood star to the thief and the out of work angry, bitter dancer any day.

Gary won because he had character and people liked him - get over it.

[Liam-]

Give me an eccentric old Hollywood star to the thief and the out of work angry, bitter dancer any day.

Gary won because he had character and people liked him - get over it.

get over what? we're not even discussing him winning omg :laugh:

[ThriceShy]

So many sore losers over this result. It has to be the best result ever.

[sassysocks]

get over what? we're not even discussing him winning omg :laugh:

In a way we are - if the majority of people were so concerned with such trivialities as Gary's hygiene habits - he wouldn't have won. He won because he was entertaining and likeable. I hope James chokes on it.

[Liam-]

In a way we are - if the majority of people were so concerned with such trivialities as Gary's hygiene habits - he wouldn't have won. He won because he was entertaining and likeable. I hope James chokes on it.

we were in no way discussing him winning, we were discussing his hygiene and peoples understandable lack of tolerance towards it..

[ThriceShy]

we were in no way discussing him winning, we were discussing his hygiene and peoples understandable lack of tolerance towards it..

But the fact they tolerated Lauren peeing in the pool shows that their problem with gary wasn't hygiene.

Stephanie was horrible to Gary and claimed it was because she was a germaphobe, but when Lauren admitted to peeing in the pool stephanie said it was hilarious.

Their problem with gary was his fame. The hygiene thing was just a stick to beat him with.

[sassysocks]

But the fact they tolerated Lauren peeing in the pool shows that their problem with gary wasn't hygiene.

Stephanie was horrible to Gary and claimed it was because she was a germaphobe, but when Lauren admitted to peeing in the pool stephanie said it was hilarious.

Their problem with gary was his fame. The hygiene thing was just a stick to beat him with.

Agreed. If I had been in the pool with her, I would not have been happy. It seems Stephanie's so-called germaphobia was 'adaptable'. Very convenient.

[susie q]

Because they're not carers? and they don't put people in there that need carers..

I can remember 2 housemates in the normal bb who had disabilities and required assistance,(Mikey whose blind & steve who had lost both legs) the other housemates just got on with it, and they werent being paid for any of it.!
They gave the impression that it was just part of the bb experience. If they could deal with it I dont see why overpaid divas like Dee&James should moan.
Personally I would like to see more disabled/older people in both bbs.
Disability can happen to anyone, age happens to most people(including you some day Liam). Needing assistance shouldnt be used as an excuse not to allow someone to be bb contestant. Furthermore under the new disability discrimination law it would be illegal anyway.
So Liam you may have to get used seeing people who need assistance on your TV, and indeed on BB. In my opnion that is as it should be! :shrug:

[jegmeister]

The issue of whether or not Gary should have gone in is irrelevant. He was in there and the other HMs should have accepted it.

Does anyone honestly think Gary was constantly leaving excrement all over the place - massive exaggeration. If so, why didn't they all go en masse to BB and demand the place be cleared out. Perhaps it happened once or twice as might be the case with a brain damaged elderly man - in which case, you simply accept it and move on.

Initially James tried helping Gary but as soon as he heard boos for him and cheers for Gary, he changed. He was damn sure he was going to try to mentally break him down and get him to shout or be aggressive back so he would look bad. Most of them knew he was their main competition and they couldn't stand it - so they did everything they could to bully, humiliate and ridicule him.

If had been unpopular and booed all the time, you can bet your life nothing would have been said. James and Dee are colossal bad losers and ultimately stupid too - if you hear someone getting cheers all the time and you get boos, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise what might be going on.

But what is the most unforgiveable of all is that they will not let it go. After the show would have been the perfect opportunity to bury the hatchet, wish him well, say no hard feelings it was just a game, congratulations on your win. And at least leave him with a modicum of dignity. The fact they are trying to character assassinate him in the most degrading way shows 2 people who are unspeakably cruel and heartless. They simply don't care. And for that, they deserve every bit of bile they get from every quarter.

[Marymayo]

It is now time James and Dee got over the fact that Gary won, no matter what they say, the majority of voters are happy and the result is final. They are just making themselves look silly, bitter and petty now and doing themselves even less favours than previously. The pair of them should be sent to an old folks home for a month to work for free.

[Marymayo]

Also, 12 people did not come out of there saying the same thing. Claire King, Frenchy and Kellie did not and we know what Audley said. James/Dee gand came out saying that, Leslie was apologetic and showed some understanding and Lauren was saying Gary tried hard when things were brought up, so James is a liar.

[Marymayo]

12 people did not agree with James, James/Dee gang agreed.

[Marymayo]

If you look at the state of the B.B. houses in previous shows, they are all disgusting, Kim Woodburn went in and found dirty knickers on the floor. Jay wiped his bum on Louise's pillow, we have had to watch twosecond Steve shag a robot, people dry dishes with hand towels, much, much worse has gone on in B.B. over the years, than an elderly, disabled man bumbling along in this series. If the housemates were caring, kind and patient, this would never have been an issue, but it was plain to see, these "celebs" bar a small few, were not nice people.

[Raphael]

"Gary, we love you"............."He's a vile human being"

[kirklancaster]

Because they're not carers? and they don't put people in there that need carers..

They put James in there and he needs a Mental Health Carer. :nono::nono:

[kirklancaster]

:clap1::clap1::thumbs:Nobody know's if this is true the vile gang had their head's together all the time talking about him I don't believe all the rubbish.I never saw any of them looking after Gary all they did was take the piss out of him one person that cared about him was Audley.

[Suze]

Gary won, James didn't, get over it James you overgrown baby. Someone needs to stick a dummy in James mouth. Although did love and will be one of my favourite bits of this CBB that James got to the final three, then was pipped at the post by not just Gary, but also Audley. Double blow :laugh3:

[jaxie]

When did this poo on the hands incident happen?

It seems odd that it was never shown or mentioned in the programme, but the shower thing was.

Tbh the more I think about it the more I find the scenario hard to believe. The way they kicked off about every little thing there would have been pandemonian if even a snif of **** was whiffed. Also they would have been in the diary room bitching about it every opportunity and it would have been brought up in noms. They were hardly a group of people to hold back until they came out. Stephanie made it up and James has jumped on it to try to vindicate himself.

[bots]

Tbh the more I think about it the more I find the scenario hard to believe. The way they kicked off about every little thing there would have been pandemonian if even a snif of **** was whiffed. Also they would have been in the diary room bitching about it every opportunity and it would have been brought up in noms. They were hardly a group of people to hold back until they came out. Stephanie made it up and James has jumped on it to try to vindicate himself.

I'm sure given the nature of the contracts that they all had, that any excessive issues related to hygiene would come under the health and safety at work act and various other safeguards that everyone is entitled too whether they are in the BB house or not. Clearly, nothing has been breached there as you can guarantee they would have jumped on it to remove Gary from the house

As so many have alluded to already, there is nothing new in any of these areas, the issues have recurred over and over in previous big brothers without it raising more than the odd snigger here and there. They all realised that Gary had the beating of them, and when they couldn't compete "fairly" they chose to gang up on him, and use every underhand tactic at their disposal. The fact that Dee stated on bots that they all treated Gary horribly, is all the evidence required. If they had been justified in their actions, it wouldn't by definition, have been horrible.

[Ruffle]

James was asked the questions he answered them
the truth is I feel that his fans don't want the truth It's ok to accept the truth and still like Gary
there is not an issue with health issues when the other hm,s cleaned it up it would only become a problem it it had been left
I totally believe what the other hm,s are saying and I believe that it was James and dee that were seeing to all his needs not that thy will be apreasiated for it thy did not sigh up to be careers but tried all the same

[calyman]

James was asked the questions he answered them
the truth is I feel that his fans don't want the truth It's ok to accept the truth and still like Gary
there is not an issue with health issues when the other hm,s cleaned it up it would only become a problem it it had been left
I totally believe what the other hm,s are saying and I believe that it was James and dee that were seeing to all his needs not that thy will be apreasiated for it thy did not sigh up to be careers but tried all the same

I don't believe James' or Dee's or any of the gang of 6's lies.

[kirklancaster]

James was asked the questions he answered them
the truth is I feel that his fans don't want the truth It's ok to accept the truth and still like Gary
there is not an issue with health issues when the other hm,s cleaned it up it would only become a problem it it had been left
I totally believe what the other hm,s are saying and I believe that it was James and dee that were seeing to all his needs not that thy will be apreasiated for it thy did not sigh up to be careers but tried all the same
:nono::nono::nono::nono::nono:

Anything those vile bastards did by way of kind or charitable acts - to any other house-mates, not just Gary - was as fake as a 90p banknote. The irrefutable proof of their vileness is threefold; their actual behaviour whilst in the house, their actual conduct during the post finale interviews, and their continued spewing of bile against Gary now, in newspapers and on line.

Please consider this; even if Gary did have some hygiene issues, even if there was an incident when he had traces of poo on his hand (and I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he did have comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any genuine person who recognised his problems would merely take him to one side and - away from the cameras - gently advise him. Similarly, any decent person genuinely electing to help Gary, would do so without broadcasting his problems and without heralding to the world the fact that they were helping him. Even if Gary was ungrateful or rude by return (and again, I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he was comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any decent genuine person would make allowances for his eccentricity, his age, and his disabilities, and preserve an old man's dignity by being discreet about his hygiene problems.

Would we have had any idea that Gary pissed on the floor? Had poo on his hands, and had other hygiene issues if it had not been broadcast to the world by these insensitive hypocrites? No, we wouldn't, because we did not ever see it. I for one, do not believe it, and I prefer to rely on my eyes, ears, and logical deduction to interpret what I have witnessed rather than the lies of vile bastards who are willing to unjustly discredit an innocent man and rob him of his dignity merely because they are trying to justify their vile bullying behaviour.

The anti-Gary lobby, and pro-James/Dee lobby can maintain what they want.
:nono::nono::nono::nono:

[Mick]

RE The above post completely agree.Just look at James face when Gary lowered his trousers in the kitchen that says it all.No compassion just glorying in another's misfortune.

[Jules2]

James was asked the questions he answered them
the truth is I feel that his fans don't want the truth It's ok to accept the truth and still like Gary
there is not an issue with health issues when the other hm,s cleaned it up it would only become a problem it it had been left
I totally believe what the other hm,s are saying and I believe that it was James and dee that were seeing to all his needs not that thy will be apreasiated for it thy did not sigh up to be careers but tried all the same

We accept that things can happen because we are human ourselves but Dee never helped Gary one bit, James only bothered after he was asked by BB but he tried to bring Gary down to a level of dog poo. He then proceeded to go out and stir the pot. They are both undesirable bad losers, I doubt whether anyone is denying that accidents happened but as Audey said Gary was asked and Gary repaired and became better. I believe Audley 100%, I also believe that Dee took the younger element under her wings and stirred for Gary as said by Audley.

There was an incident whereby Gary was criticised because he picked at the chicken, did we all see Edelle and Audley picking away for all their worth, they were enjoying it. Audley spooned the insides out spoon after spoon and then he was going to make chicken soup. I love Audley but my point is, why was Gary criticised.

Still the terrible lot continue.......the game is over you lot and you all lost!

The only one who helped Gary was Audley and as Gary said he is the only one he will keep in touch with. I am so glad that he has now seen through the rest of them.

[Jules2]

Hate to say it but I agree with him.

12 other people cant be wrong, are we all really that gullable and believing the edit over the actual people who have lived with him?

Don't get me wrong I loved Gary as a housemate but these people had to live with him and from what 99% of them are saying its clear we were only shown one side of Garys character.

We were shown all of Gary's character watch all the videos he has made in chat shows, other reality shows. They are hilarious.

We saw him naked in the shower, BOTS thought that was also hilarious, we saw him take his trousers down in the kitchen and adjust his knee thing. We also saw George take his pants down and James flick him with a tea towel. We know that Lauren peed in the pool, we know that George drank the water. We heard Gary say "what" numerous times, his hearing was a bit of a bind for him.

Watch the cartoon video again with Meatloaf, that is hilarious but it is him. That lot made the mistake of treating him like a lesser being, possibly because they were in awe of him, afraid of him who knows, possibly they realised he could win and did all they could to turn the tables on him. They knew he was a legend. Sadly no matter what they came off worse in a lot of peoples eyes and this is what this series will be remembered for. It was a game and they all tried to win in their own way.

Dee had the nerve to say on BOTS that they began to be nice to him because they thought we would vote him out. Edelle said he was easy pickings, we could go on and on and on. Edelle also asked Audley why didnt he nominate Gary instead of her. Audley and Frenchy were the only true ones who didnt belong in the sheep pen they had minds of their own.

[Vanessa]

We were shown all of Gary's character watch all the videos he has made in chat shows, other reality shows. They are hilarious.

We saw him naked in the shower, BOTS thought that was also hilarious, we saw him take his trousers down in the kitchen and adjust his knee thing. We also saw George take his pants down and James flick him with a tea towel. We know that Lauren peed in the pool, we know that George drank the water. We heard Gary say "what" numerous times, his hearing was a bit of a bind for him.

Watch the cartoon video again with Meatloaf, that is hilarious but it is him. That lot made the mistake of treating him like a lesser being, possibly because they were in awe of him, afraid of him who knows, possibly they realised he could win and did all they could to turn the tables on him. They knew he was a legend. Sadly no matter what they came off worse in a lot of peoples eyes and this is what this series will be remembered for. It was a game and they all tried to win in their own way.

Dee had the nerve to say on BOTS that they began to be nice to him because they thought we would vote him out. Edelle said he was easy pickings, we could go on and on and on. Edelle also asked Audley why didnt he nominate Gary instead of her. Audley and Frenchy were the only true ones who didnt belong in the sheep pen they had minds of their own.

:clap1:

[rusticgal]

RE The above post completely agree.Just look at James face when Gary lowered his trousers in the kitchen that says it all.No compassion just glorying in another's misfortune.


Our glory was watching the final three left in the house with James on one chair and Gary and Audley on the other.... The sick look on James's face was classic...he knew he was going to lose to the pair of them and the humiliation was inevitable.
What's more he had no one to turn to...only them.:joker::joker::joker:

[Mick]

Our glory was watching the final three left in the house with James on one chair and Gary and Audley on the other.... The sick look on James's face was classic...he knew he was going to lose to the pair of them and the humiliation was inevitable.
What's more he had no one to turn to...only them.:joker::joker::joker:

Indeed I was surprised that he did not complain to Emma that he was bullied.(again) :laugh:

[Robodog]

Our glory was watching the final three left in the house with James on one chair and Gary and Audley on the other.... The sick look on James's face was classic...he knew he was going to lose to the pair of them and the humiliation was inevitable.
What's more he had no one to turn to...only them.:joker::joker::joker:

Even better was his exit - offering out his hand in a deflated formal way to Gary and saying 'take care mate'.

It was like a dejected David Brent trying to save face and meekly hide his dented pride. Hilarious.

[kirklancaster]

Our glory was watching the final three left in the house with James on one chair and Gary and Audley on the other.... The sick look on James's face was classic...he knew he was going to lose to the pair of them and the humiliation was inevitable.
What's more he had no one to turn to...only them.:joker::joker::joker:
:clap1::clap1:

Exactly!! All too briefly, the egotistical bully was outnumbered and alone, and his demeanour said it all. :wavey:

[Angelika]

He has a point though, he wasn't in there to look after Gary, nor should he have been expected to, none of them should of had to deal with that.

Gary didn't need looking after - that's James .......a sore loser and full of bile and hatred because he got the public opinion wrong.

James didn't have to do a thing for Gary - he did so fo air time for himself! To portray himself as a doo- goody two shoes but we the public saw through that ruse!

James, stop griping! Get a grip, get a life - CBB is over now and YOU didn't win!:dance: so glad too! :dance:

[Angelika]

:nono::nono::nono::nono::nono:

Anything those vile bastards did by way of kind or charitable acts - to any other house-mates, not just Gary - was as fake as a 90p banknote. The irrefutable proof of their vileness is threefold; their actual behaviour whilst in the house, their actual conduct during the post finale interviews, and their continued spewing of bile against Gary now, in newspapers and on line.

Please consider this; even if Gary did have some hygiene issues, even if there was an incident when he had traces of poo on his hand (and I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he did have comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any genuine person who recognised his problems would merely take him to one side and - away from the cameras - gently advise him. Similarly, any decent person genuinely electing to help Gary, would do so without broadcasting his problems and without heralding to the world the fact that they were helping him. Even if Gary was ungrateful or rude by return (and again, I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he was comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any decent genuine person would make allowances for his eccentricity, his age, and his disabilities, and preserve an old man's dignity by being discreet about his hygiene problems.

Would we have had any idea that Gary pissed on the floor? Had poo on his hands, and had other hygiene issues if it had not been broadcast to the world by these insensitive hypocrites? No, we wouldn't, because we did not ever see it. I for one, do not believe it, and I prefer to rely on my eyes, ears, and logical deduction to interpret what I have witnessed rather than the lies of vile bastards who are willing to unjustly discredit an innocent man and rob him of his dignity merely because they are trying to justify their vile bullying behaviour.

The anti-Gary lobby, and pro-James/Dee lobby can maintain what they want.
:nono::nono::nono::nono:

Totally support every word you say, I feel the same about Gary's detractors!
Poo to them - poor losers! Ashamed that they can call themselves British!

[the truth]

can we end this thread and not give this boring one dimensional evil scumbag bully any more attention, hopefully he will crawl back from whence he came never to be heard from again

[Angelika]

Gary won, James didn't, get over it James you overgrown baby. Someone needs to stick a dummy in James mouth. Although did love and will be one of my favourite bits of this CBB that James got to the final three, then was pipped at the post by not just Gary, but also Audley. Double blow :laugh3:

Its my favourite moment too! The look of disbelief on James's face was priceless - TV GOLD! His humiliation is now complete, most others would stay home and lick their wounds - not Genius James - he's out there making himself look a hundred times worse! What an idiot, he has no idea when to stop!

James for heavens sake consult one of the psyches!

[rionablue]

My view is that I don't think Gary was well enough to go through nearly 4 weeks in that house. Considering his complications after his crash, his injuries, his difficulty in hearing, and all the other things that he suffered from I think it was the WRONG move to go into Big Brother. Gary Busey is a Hollywood Legend. God knows he shouldn't have needed the money. Big Brother houses are always full of selfish people who belittle other people and argue and bitch and order people around. I said it in the first few days Gary shouldn't have agreed to do it.

Its hard enough on able bodied people trying to put up with the vileness of others. In fairness to Gary he took everything with a grain of salt. I liked him and it has proved a point that he WON. But a great percentage of the people who voted for him to win are people who couldn't stand James and Dee and most of the others and felt sorry for Gary with what he had to put up with. I feel that should he have gone into the house a fit and sprightly 70 year old the outcome may have been different.

Gary wasn't all sweetness and light he had another side to him also and was sly at times but as I said I liked him. However in my honest opinion he should NEVER HAVE signed up for it. If I was the biggest celeb in the world and had health issues and had seen what the housemates can be like I would rather sweep the streets than put myself in a position where I could be ridiculed, shouted at or preached to

[the truth]

My view is that I don't think Gary was well enough to go through nearly 4 weeks in that house. Considering his complications after his crash, his injuries, his difficulty in hearing, and all the other things that he suffered from I think it was the WRONG move to go into Big Brother. Gary Busey is a Hollywood Legend. God knows he shouldn't have needed the money. Big Brother houses are always full of selfish people who belittle other people and argue and bitch and order people around. I said it in the first few days Gary shouldn't have agreed to do it.

Its hard enough on able bodied people trying to put up with the vileness of others. In fairness to Gary he took everything with a grain of salt. I liked him and it has proved a point that he WON. But a great percentage of the people who voted for him to win are people who couldn't stand James and Dee and most of the others and felt sorry for Gary with what he had to put up with. I feel that should he have gone into the house a fit and sprightly 70 year old the outcome may have been different.



Gary wasn't all sweetness and light he had another side to him also and was sly at times but as I said I liked him. However in my honest opinion he should NEVER HAVE signed up for it. If I was the biggest celeb in the world and had health issues and had seen what the housemates can be like I would rather sweep the streets than put myself in a position where I could be ridiculed, shouted at or preached to


I disagree. gary had every right to be there. he was a fantastic sport and participated in most tasks, in some tasks very well. he totally took over the show. he was the nicets warmest , funniest most complex learned person by light years. absoluteyl fascinating. he lacked ego. he was there for the experience , to learn and grow and teach a lot of lessons along the way. i loved how he exposed each and every vile bully in there. it was masterclass. he was more genuine and humbled depsite his legendary status , far more humble than any of the do nothing talentless vile mob who bullied him. its ironic really, youd expect the poorer working class people to me more humble, that opposite was true

he was the best hm in bb history. totlaly exposing the hollow sham it has become and the bubble brain perma tanned petty vein talentless vile numpties that pass for celebrities in this not so great britain

[Mick]

RE The above post both members present an interesting perspective. How much knowledge did Gary have of what to expect and how deep did the researcher's/producer's delve into the possible consequences and out comes RE Garys disability's.?

Whatever, his participation enabled other HMs the opportunity to show a compassionate and caring side of their personality's under difficult circumstances. So as part of the social experiment it added an extra dimension.

Most failed and Gary won.When they watch the show hopefully some of them will understand why but sadly I suspect the majority will not.

[jasperinporto]

Nobody know's if this is true the vile gang had their head's together all the time talking about him I don't believe all the rubbish.I never saw any of them looking after Gary all they did was take the piss out of him one person that cared about him was Audley.

It seems to me the vile bunch of nobodies are purposely trying to humiliate Gary by telling the viewers that he ****s on the seat and doesn't wash his hands after going to the toilet. Do we really want to know that? Nobody really gave a **** what they said about Gary anyway he was still way above them in the popularity stakes. Whatever they say about him it doesn't matter to the people who voted for him he is still a legend in my books and it will take a lot more than people wiping Gary's **** off the seat for him to go down in my estimation.

Apart from Audley they were all a pile of crap. Wish it was possible to just flush them away like a pile of **** down the toilet.

[Pete.]

Drag him

[jasperinporto]

:nono::nono::nono::nono::nono:

Anything those vile bastards did by way of kind or charitable acts - to any other house-mates, not just Gary - was as fake as a 90p banknote. The irrefutable proof of their vileness is threefold; their actual behaviour whilst in the house, their actual conduct during the post finale interviews, and their continued spewing of bile against Gary now, in newspapers and on line.

Please consider this; even if Gary did have some hygiene issues, even if there was an incident when he had traces of poo on his hand (and I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he did have comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any genuine person who recognised his problems would merely take him to one side and - away from the cameras - gently advise him. Similarly, any decent person genuinely electing to help Gary, would do so without broadcasting his problems and without heralding to the world the fact that they were helping him. Even if Gary was ungrateful or rude by return (and again, I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he was comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any decent genuine person would make allowances for his eccentricity, his age, and his disabilities, and preserve an old man's dignity by being discreet about his hygiene problems.

Would we have had any idea that Gary pissed on the floor? Had poo on his hands, and had other hygiene issues if it had not been broadcast to the world by these insensitive hypocrites? No, we wouldn't, because we did not ever see it. I for one, do not believe it, and I prefer to rely on my eyes, ears, and logical deduction to interpret what I have witnessed rather than the lies of vile bastards who are willing to unjustly discredit an innocent man and rob him of his dignity merely because they are trying to justify their vile bullying behaviour.

The anti-Gary lobby, and pro-James/Dee lobby can maintain what they want.
:nono::nono::nono::nono:


I absolutely agree with what your saying. And it makes me angry the way they purposely wanted to humiliate Gary by telling the public. But it didn't put his fans off he was still way above everyone else. I think it will take more than wiping **** off the seat to bring this great man down.

They all deserve to be flushed away down the toilet like the piece of **** they all are. Except the lovely Audley of course.

[the truth]

this fckwith james the brad pitt of twatness spent half an episode giving gary a 70 yr old brain damaged half deaf man a lecture about spilling a few tiny specs of coffee when walking up a flight of steep stairs. and were meant to take this bullying boring twat seriously. up yours brad pitt

[delta]

I absolutely agree with what your saying. And it makes me angry the way they purposely wanted to humiliate Gary by telling the public. But it didn't put his fans off he was still way above everyone else. I think it will take more than wiping **** off the seat to bring this great man down.

They all deserve to be flushed away down the toilet like the piece of **** they all are. Except the lovely Audley of course.



What happened in that house should have stayed in that house.

No moaning they should have bent over backwards to help him.

I still think he would have won but it would have show them all in a better light.

What it did demonstrate was two things. How far we have drifted in the care and reverence of an older generation and what a sad bunch of self absorbed individuals they were.

Make no wonder half of them didn't attend the Wrap party- they have realised how badly they have damaged their 'stock' in the eyes of the British public. Damage limitation way too late.

[Mick]

What it did demonstrate was two things. How far we have drifted in the care and reverence of an older generation and what a sad bunch of self absorbed individuals they were.

Make no wonder half of them didn't attend the Wrap party- they have realised how badly they have damaged their 'stock' in the eyes of the British public. Damage limitation way too late.

The above is well said very few of them can feel proud of their interactions with Gary and I hope we the public do not let them forget it.

I have been re playing some episodes and the behaviours of James particularly leave me feeling angry and sad.