Scottish Referendum

[Jords]

Thats cause Scotland gave it 110% effort :laugh:

:laugh2:

[Shaun]

84% and 89% turnouts in two different constituencies :o (Orkney and one I can't spell but sounded like Clacmannanshire(?), respectively)

[Firewire]

84% and 89% turnouts in two different constituencies :o (Orkney and one I can't spell but sounded like Clacmannanshire(?), respectively)

Clackmannanshire

[Shaun]

k

is what i missed

[Firewire]

97% postal returns for East Dunbartonshire (where I'm from)

[Brother Leon]

Caithness ballot boxes held up by 1.5 hours because of an accident on the A9 at Berriedale Braes blackspot.
The ballot boxes are now expected at the count in Dingwall at about 03:00.
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The drama.

[Marsh.]

All the yes people i follow on twitter are so aggressive :umm2:

Greg, Josy and Lee. :bored: Just drunken yobs the lot of them.

[Iceman]

Electoral fraud in glasgow :/

[Firewire]

Electoral fraud in glasgow :/

omg i bet it was that yes campaigner who i work with

[Firewire]

i can't cope with this party next door any longer

[Kizzy]

I bet it was Cameron in a ginger wig ;)

[Marsh.]

I bet it was Cameron in a ginger wig ;)

:joker: And a kilt.

[Kizzy]

:joker: And a kilt.

Of course,where else would he hide nick? :joker:

[billy123]

Yep they are all No votes on the No table nothing to see here move along dont look too closely.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bx2lm4iCYAIfdoe.jpg

[Kizzy]

oo eck :/

[Firewire]

they haven't been sorted yet

[MTVN]

Yeah its gonna be a No. Think the turnout is quite understandable as well comsidering the gravity of the question, think I read somewhere that independence referendums get a > 80% turnout on average

Very annoyingly we are in the midst of the storm of the century here and we have no power. Following it all on the radio by candlelight

[Marsh.]

Following it all on the radio by candlelight

The future of Scotland if it leaves the UK. :hehe:

[MTVN]

Very true Marsh

[billy123]

they haven't been sorted yetSeems like a stupid place to store uncounted votes though. It was just on sky news as well to confirm they are uncounted votes :joker:

[Firewire]

First votes in:

Clackmannanshire: NO (53.80%)

[Kyle]

First time listening to 5live for a non football related event.

Good start for the no's.

http://www.voodoohash.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Ace-Ventura-tutu-dance.gif

[Brother Leon]

Going bed tbh. Will probably wake up to crazy times in Scotland the morning.

[MTVN]

An area where if Yes were to win they'd hope to take I hear

Think the silent majority will prevail to give No 55%+ overall

[King Gizzard]

See, nothing to worry about Josy

[Shaun]

Orkney: Yes - 4.883 (33%), No - 10,004.

Ouch.

[the truth]

70% say no in orkney.......looks like the UK lives to fight another day

[Firewire]

Clackmannanshire: NO (54%)
Orkney: NO (67%)


YES: 42.24% | NO: 57.76%

[Firewire]

East Dunbartonshire (where I'm from) has the highest voting turnout of 91%

[Kyle]

I'll be most interested in my families constituency of West Lothian.

Looking forward to seeing how that goes.

[billy123]

Damn thats a really hostile crowd on the streets in glasgow the poor girl on sky news looked scared out of her wits with some meathead screaming at her to **** off.

[Firewire]

Clackmannanshire: NO (54%)
Orkney: NO (67%)
Shetland: NO (64%)


YES: 40.83% | NO: 59.17%

[Firewire]

Eilean Siar (Western Isles): NO (53%)


Overall
YES: 42.15% | NO: 57.85%

[Kizzy]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/scottish-independence-blog/live/2014/sep/18/scottish-referendum-results-live-coverage-of-the-independence-vote#block-541b8494e4b06074cd7171fc

[Firewire]

Only 4 have declared but I think No has won this

[Kizzy]

I bet lee's in bits :worry:

[Kyle]

I bet lee's in bits :worry:

I have an über nationalist cousin who is no doubt bumping his gums right now on Facebook over this.

Part of me wants to unblock his newsfeed and grab some popcorn :hehe:

[Firewire]

Looking like 51,000 votes YES to 42,000 votes NO in Dundee

[Firewire]

Inverclyde: NO (50.1%)


Overall
YES: 45.18% | NO: 54.82%

[Firewire]

only 86 votes in that one, 27,243 for yes vs 27,329 for no

[lostalex]

wait, so england won right?

that must really stick in the craw of the scottish.

[Firewire]

wait, so england won right?

that must really stick in the craw of the scottish.

only 5 out of 32 local authorities have declared

[Firewire]

Dundee City: YES (57%)
Renfrewshire: NO (53%)

Overall
YES: 49.09% | NO: 50.91%

7 of 32 declared

[Firewire]

very close now

[Firewire]

Yes 172,426 (49.1%)
No 178,811 (50.9%)

official numbers

[Mystic Mock]

I still think that yes will win as Glasgow will swing it.

[lostalex]

The Guardian is already calling it for the NO campaign.

The Guardian definitely thinks this is already over and that Scotland is still a minion state of the UK.

[Shaun]

Dundee were perported to get around 60-65% yes tbf so I can't see that being much of a victory in the long run.

[Shaun]

West Dunbartonshire (ohay jonathan~): 88% turnout, YES = 33,720. NO = 28,776

JONATHAN WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

[Firewire]

i was writing that up WAITING FOR OFFICIAL FIGURES

[Firewire]

plus i'm east not west boo

[Shaun]

oh sry

[Shaun]

49.8/50.2% now :worry:

[Firewire]

West Dunbartonshire: YES (54%)

Overall
YES: 49.83% | NO: 50.17%

8 of 32 declared

[Firewire]

Edinburgh's result is a certain No, probably significantly so. Glasgow's will be close.

[Shaun]

Midloathian~ 86.8% turnout
YES - 26,370
NO - 33,972

why are we posting these jonathan

[Firewire]

Midlothian: NO (56%)

Overall
YES: 49.05% | NO: 50.95%

9 of 32 declared

[Firewire]

Midloathian~ 86.8% turnout
YES - 26,370
NO - 33,972

why are we posting these jonathan

idk it was a reason for me to stay up if i had something to do

[Shaun]

also statistics are quite sexy

[Firewire]

can someone gif nicola sturgeon clapping?

[Shaun]

East Lothian about to lay some **** down

[Shaun]

27,467; 44,283

well that's quite conclusive

[Firewire]

East Lothian: NO (62%)

Overall
YES: 47.63% | NO: 52.37%

10 of 32 declared

[Shaun]

omg they're flooding in now :flutter:

[Firewire]

Stirling: NO (60%)

Overall
YES: 46.87% | NO: 53.13%

11 of 32 declared

[Firewire]

Expecting 60%+ for Edinburgh's result

[Kyle]

Mid and East Lothian laying down the pavement for it's big sister Edinburgh to slam some numbers in for no.

[Shaun]

Rosemary from Falkirk has some devilish curls

[Firewire]

Falkirk: NO (53.5%)

Overall
YES: 46.82% | NO: 53.18%

12 of 32 declared

[Firewire]

oops

[Kyle]

Falkirk's done not so bad. Anybody think that Glasgow won't be so bad for the no after all?

[Firewire]

Falkirk's done not so bad. Anybody think that Glasgow won't be so bad for the no after all?

52% YES

[Kyle]

52% YES

So long as Edinburgh hits it into the 60's I can go for that.

[Firewire]

Angus: NO (56%)

Overall
YES: 46.51% | NO: 53.49%

13 of 32 declared

[Kyle]

Fookin hell Granite city I love you!!

That's a a great coup.

Hope Aberdeenshire follows suit.

[Shaun]

damn. Dumfries drowned the yeses :/

[Firewire]

i cant keep up

[Firewire]

Overall
YES: 45.07% | NO: 54.93%

15 of 32 declared

[Shaun]

this poor woman on Huw's right they keep interrupting :joker:

[Firewire]

Overall
YES: 44.10% | NO: 55.90%

16 of 32 declared

[Firewire]

i'm not updating individual constituencies now as they're coming in too quickly and they didn't reveal aberdeen's numbers so i lost where i was

[Shaun]

east renfrewshire - 63% no
dumfries - 66% no
aberdeen - 59% no
east dunbartonshire - 61% no

[Kyle]

Damn I'd hate to be FireWire right now, they're coming in like a bad case of crabs.

[Firewire]

i went to get a drink

[Firewire]

east dunbartonshire voted no!!!!

[Firewire]

Overall
YES: 43.75% | NO: 56.25%

17 of 32 declared

[Shaun]

we've gone from a difference of 1,500 votes to 150,000 in twenty minutes :laugh:

[Firewire]

what was east dun's figures?

[Firewire]

oh it was 61% no LMAO

[Firewire]

happy with that

[Shaun]

not sure of the totals but i've edited in the percentage :p think it was about 44k to 27k?

[Firewire]

that's amazing, so many yes voters from where i live are annoying

[Shaun]

it's been thundery here for about 2 hours, can't help but think this is a sign :worry:

[Kyle]

I'm using the BBC independence page to remind me of where the scores lay.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/events/scotland-decides/results

[Shaun]

Glasgow declaring within the next 10 minutes !!!!!!!!

[Firewire]

I hope Glasgow surprises me and votes no, but it's a big ask

[Firewire]

Overall
YES: 44.92% | NO: 55.08%

19 of 32 declared

[Firewire]

North Lanarkshire YES 51%

[Shaun]

I posted the same thing as jonathan so here's a picture of lisa simpson

https://33.media.tumblr.com/6245d24e67694efad3d6226fd05a7ecf/tumblr_mkyb94qEFr1s5jjtzo1_400.gif

[Firewire]

South Lanarkshire votes No

[JeanP!]

Its pathetic seeing people get excited about the NL result :joker:

#BetterTogether

[Firewire]

Perth now

[Firewire]

Overall
YES: 44.97% | NO: 55.03%

20 of 32 declared

[Shaun]

perth - 60% no
s. lanarkshire - 55% no

[Firewire]

Apparently Glasgow voted yes

[Shaun]

glasgow!!!!!

[Firewire]

Overall
YES: 46.12% | NO: 53.88%

23 of 32 declared

[Shaun]

Turnout: 364,664 (75%)
YES - 194,779
NO - 169,347

so a YES by 53%

[Shaun]

scottish borders say no (67%)

[billy123]

That Glasgow result is a good result for the No.
That is nowhere near enough to threaten the overall result.

[Firewire]

Scotland rejects independence

[Firewire]

Overall
YES: 45.66% | NO: 54.34%

23 of 32 declared

[Shaun]

NO campaign only needs 566,613 votes to reach a final majority

[Firewire]

Can go to bed now knowing Scotland is still part of the UK. Good times.

[Kyle]

Pyrrhic victory in Glasgow for yes that. No still has Edinburgh to play.

[Firewire]

I am so happy

[Shaun]

North Ayrshire vote no (51%)
South Ayrshire vote no (58%)

[Firewire]

Overall
YES: 45.72% | NO: 54.28%

26 of 32 declared

[Shaun]

East Ayrshire vote no (53%)

[Shaun]

BBC now officially forecasting a 'no' victory

[JeanP!]

Well, the union is safe.

BBC projects a NO victory

Now we can all go to sleep

[Kyle]

The seethe on pie & bovril forum right now is a bit worrying to say the least.

Grown men spitting their dummies out and labelling their fellow countrymen as selfish, egotistical bigots for daring to vote different to them. Others claiming Scotland isn't their country anymore and saying they are gonna leave. One even letting their true colours show with a resounding **** England.

[Firewire]

I hate Nicola Sturgeon

[Ammi]

..Is happy that Jonathan and I can still share the same tub of Ben and Jerry's...

[lostalex]

..Is happy that Jonathan and I can still share the same tub of Ben and Jerry's...

this just in, ben and jerry's ice-cream are outraged at the result, and have dumped 2 tons of ice-cream into the Thames in protest.

initial reports indicate it was mostly chunky monkey, but also some cherry garcia.

[Ammi]

..this referendum just got serious...


...votes NO to the Thames, can someone please drain it before we lose the Cookie Dough..:fist:....

[Shaun]

It was a great campaign, the yes one anyway. I'm sorry to all those on here who felt passionately about gaining independence :(

I selfishly wanted the union to stay out of nothing more than a token affection for the saltire's part in the Union Jack, but upon reflection I'm happier now that I can still call some of my greatest friends (Z and L) my compatriots as well.

Hopefully this election is the dawn of a more democratic UK. The turnouts and passion behind both sides of the debate have been incredible (if a little bit tiring towards the end) and I think both sides can emerge proud of their efforts: the Yes campaign and Salmond in particular are great revolutionaries and a well-needed kick up the arse towards Westminster and its out-of-touch policies, and the No campaign for realising (better late than never?) that the UK is a great country and can be greater together :love:

Now I must stop being soppy and head to bed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Dissapointed but i fear that fear of change is what really won the day. In the end folks think

No - i dont have to do anything and i can get on with my agenda

Yes - oh god does that mean I have to do something that will impinge on my agenda

Its a very human reaction I guess


Plus ca change

[Crimson Dynamo]

and for Yes to do so well with only one national newspaper in support one powerful government in opposition is amazing really

[Cal.]

Um yh, bit pointless really.

[Iceman]

What a great turnout. All scots should be proud. Showing democracy at it's finest.

[user104658]

Dissapointed but i fear that fear of change is what really won the day. In the end folks think

No - i dont have to do anything and i can get on with my agenda

Yes - oh god does that mean I have to do something that will impinge on my agenda

Its a very human reaction I guess


Plus ca change

I completely agree, I had a strong inclination that when it came to walking into a polling station and marking that paper, a significant number of people would simply bottle it and vote for the status quo.

Completely taken in by the illusion that such a status quo even exists.

The London juggernaut continues to trundle on towards certain collapse and off we go with it. I suggest those who wanted no change take a look at their situation in 10 years time and consider whether or not they actually got to "just keep things as they are"... It's clear that Western capitalism is sinking, but the rats are too scared to jump ship because they keep reading that there might be sharks in the water.

I also hear that Westminster are ALREADY, within hours of the result, backpedaling on the promise of more devolved powers. Another huge surprise there.

As Lost Alex rightly has been saying, this was never going to be allowed to happen. The US was against it, China was against it, and the EU was scared of the consequences for other nations with strong regional variations. We don't get to change the world. We will probably be punished for trying.

And as for it still being a positive because of the turn out and the political engagement? Those who voted for the status quo, for familiarity and comfort, got their wish and can get back to watching the telly. Those who dared to hope for better and vote for change now see the truth about the rigidity of the system and this will be hammered home when (not if) the "increased powers" offered are paltry, and will (rightly?) slide straight back into political apathy.

Exciting times.

[Kizzy]

and for Yes to do so well with only one national newspaper in support one powerful government in opposition is amazing really

Maybe Scottish people can think for themselves?....

[Kizzy]

I completely agree, I had a strong inclination that when it came to walking into a polling station and marking that paper, a significant number of people would simply bottle it and vote for the status quo.

Completely taken in by the illusion that such a status quo even exists.

The London juggernaut continues to trundle on towards certain collapse and off we go with it. I suggest those who wanted no change take a look at their situation in 10 years time and consider whether or not they actually got to "just keep things as they are"... It's clear that Western capitalism is sinking, but the rats are too scared to jump ship because they keep reading that there might be sharks in the water.

I also hear that Westminster are ALREADY, within hours of the result, backpedaling on the promise of more devolved powers. Another huge surprise there.

As Lost Alex rightly has been saying, this was never going to be allowed to happen. The US was against it, China was against it, and the EU was scared of the consequences for other nations with strong regional variations. We don't get to change the world. We will probably be punished for trying.

And as for it still being a positive because of the turn out and the political engagement? Those who voted for the status quo, for familiarity and comfort, got their wish and can get back to watching the telly. Those who dared to hope for better and vote for change now see the truth about the rigidity of the system and this will be hammered home when (not if) the "increased powers" offered are paltry, and will (rightly?) slide straight back into political apathy.

Exciting times.

Capitalism is thriving that's why our infrastructure is being dismantled, the brand 'Britain' is being broken and sold by the elite.

[Firewire]

..Is happy that Jonathan and I can still share the same tub of Ben and Jerry's...

:lovedup:

[James]

Orkney: Yes - 4.883 (33%), No - 10,004.

Ouch.

BBC Scotland interviewed Cameron Stout after that result (he campaigned for no). They introduced him as a 'Big Brother winner' which was a bit of a Daily Star moment, I thought.

[user104658]

Capitalism is thriving that's why our infrastructure is being dismantled, the brand 'Britain' is being broken and sold by the elite.

Corporatism is thriving, capitalism (as it was devised) is broken, failing, and cannibalizing everything and everyone around it.

[joeysteele]

Corporatism is thriving, capitalism (as it was devised) is broken, failing, and cannibalizing everything and everyone around it.

That is an interesting and really good point.

[Kizzy]

Corporatism is thriving, capitalism (as it was devised) is broken, failing, and cannibalizing everything and everyone around it.

Yes I agree It could be said that unions are corporatism too but for me that shows you have a vested interest for reasons such as civil duty, social cohesion and professional pride. The capitalist bastardisation of corporatism is privatisation where shareholders have a vested interest for no other reason than the maximising of profits, they have little or no interest in social,moral or ethical considerations or impact on the workforce in that field or communities some of which have died out due to de-indusrialisation.