Work: Am I in the wrong?

[Creggle]

I work in a service station and today while taking an order out back prepping it to take into the shop, I noticed some glue mouse traps which are disgusting things that should be illegal and I took them to my manager and basically told him my grievances with them. The order was only small, and they don't stock many, only enough room for 8 at a time and the order was 16 at something like 99p each so it isn't a money maker, but I basically asked him if he would not mind if we did not stock them and sent them back, because I detest them and people who use them and he told me to stop being thick and carry on. The insult took me back abit and I basically told him that I refuse to take them out front and we had a bit of an argument over it. Would you say that I am in the wrong for taking issue with them and I should just shut up and do my job?

[Niamh.]

I don't think a person is ever in the wrong for speaking out against something they strongly disagree with

[Crimson Dynamo]

I work in a service station and today while taking an order out back prepping it to take into the shop, I noticed some glue mouse traps which are disgusting things that should be illegal and I took them to my manager and basically told him my grievances with them. The order was only small, and they don't stock many, only enough room for 8 at a time and the order was 16 at something like 99p each so it isn't a money maker, but I basically asked him if he would not mind if we did not stock them and sent them back, because I detest them and people who use them and he told me to stop being thick and carry on. The insult took me back abit and I basically told him that I refuse to take them out front and we had a bit of an argument over it. Would you say that I am in the wrong for taking issue with them and I should just shut up and do my job?

Shut up and get on with the job, leave your morality at the door. What are glue mouse traps?

[Creggle]

Shut up and get on with the job, leave your morality at the door. What are glue mouse traps?

Sheets of glue that mice get stuck on and either starve to death or rip themselves apart trying to get off, it can kill birds too if you leave them outside.

I don't think a person is ever in the wrong for speaking out against something they strongly disagree with

:flowers:

[LukeB]

Well that was a bit rude telling you to stop being thick :unsure:

[kirklancaster]

I agree that we should all speak out against something we feel strongly opposed to Creg, bit I think that there are some situations, where discretion is truly the better part of valour - and this is one of them, unless you can afford to lose your job or you're not bothered about keeping it.

You have registered your protest but your boss's reaction should tell you that continuing to argue the point with him will not only be futile but could end up actually causing 'bad blood', if not actually getting you dismissed.

One thing that you could try - if you already haven't - is try to source competitively priced, more humane traps by your own efforts, then suggest to your boss to start ordering these instead. Explain to him that you've done the 'leg work' and know where to source them and that the cost is comparable, and tell him that it'll help you feel better and why.

If you preempt any reasons he can come up with for not changing, and remove them, then why should he refuse?

Unless he's just a jerk-off with a Napoleonic complex.:joker:

[Braden]

Good on you for telling him how you felt. I'd never heard of 'glue mouse traps', but from what you've described they sound disgusting and I can't imagine why anyone would purchase them.

On the other hand it is a bit of a tricky situation because you are working for the company, and if they (unfortunately) do sell these products you have no choice but to get on with it, unless you want to leave the job. :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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These work like a charm and the mouse feels no pain. But the service station is there to make money and until you become the boss or run your own you will just have to suck it up.

[Kazanne]

I work in a service station and today while taking an order out back prepping it to take into the shop, I noticed some glue mouse traps which are disgusting things that should be illegal and I took them to my manager and basically told him my grievances with them. The order was only small, and they don't stock many, only enough room for 8 at a time and the order was 16 at something like 99p each so it isn't a money maker, but I basically asked him if he would not mind if we did not stock them and sent them back, because I detest them and people who use them and he told me to stop being thick and carry on. The insult took me back abit and I basically told him that I refuse to take them out front and we had a bit of an argument over it. Would you say that I am in the wrong for taking issue with them and I should just shut up and do my job?

I think you did right to air your grievance with them at least you know your conscience is clear,Cant you sabotage them in some way?:hehe:

[Dollface]

Imo you're not in the wrong at all, i would've done the same thing (but i probs would've ended up rage-quitting when he started having a go at me, so it's good you kept your cool)

your boss shouldn't be stocking them in the first place, but then calling you thick because you raise awareness? he's an arsehole

[kirklancaster]

Imo you're not in the wrong at all, i would've done the same thing (but i probs would've ended up rage-quitting when he started having a go at me, so it's good you kept your cool)

your boss shouldn't be stocking them in the first place, but then calling you thick because you raise awareness? he's an arsehole

Mmmm.... And how many jobs have you had Doll? :hehe:

[Locke.]

Sell them or resign/get sacked, your choice

[Marsh.]

I don't think you're in the wrong for voicing your opinions/concerns.

But your job is to sell all of those products, not demand that the store remove certain items from stock.

So, voicing opinion = good, refusing to sell certain items = crazy. :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

and should your ire not be directed more at any customer who buys them?

[arista]

I work in a service station and today while taking an order out back prepping it to take into the shop, I noticed some glue mouse traps which are disgusting things that should be illegal and I took them to my manager and basically told him my grievances with them. The order was only small, and they don't stock many, only enough room for 8 at a time and the order was 16 at something like 99p each so it isn't a money maker, but I basically asked him if he would not mind if we did not stock them and sent them back, because I detest them and people who use them and he told me to stop being thick and carry on. The insult took me back abit and I basically told him that I refuse to take them out front and we had a bit of an argument over it. Would you say that I am in the wrong for taking issue with them and I should just shut up and do my job?


Mouse should never ever be in a home.

They are Legal


Sorry to say
Do Your Job

[Crimson Dynamo]

if you can push a bic biro in a hole then a mouse can get through that

true fact

[lostalex]

I don't think a person is ever in the wrong for speaking out against something they strongly disagree with

really? not EVER?

\So you think it would be right for a person to speak out against interracial marriage if their co-worker was marrying a black man? it's just her speaking her mind, and she wouldn't deserve any criticism>?

[Crimson Dynamo]

really? not EVER?

\So you think it would be right for a person to speak out against interracial marriage if their co-worker was marrying a black man? it's just her speaking her mind, and she wouldn't deserve any criticism>?

welcome back from your vacation Alex

:spin:

[lostalex]

welcome back from your vacation Alex

:spin:

ty :wavey:

[Crimson Dynamo]

ty :wavey:

now behave this time as we need you for the Christmas run in

:joker:

[lostalex]

now behave this time as we need you for the Christmas run in

:joker:

I can't promise to try, but I promise to try to try.

[Dollface]

Mmmm.... And how many jobs have you had Doll? :hehe:

What does that have to do with anything? And more importantly, what does that have to do with you? :hehe:

[Cherie]

As others have said you have made your point, now you either have to get on with it or leave, most jobs have an aspect to them that people disagree with if that helps

[Jamesy]

I think you're right to air your feelings. Although leading into an argument it's a bit silly really. Depends how much you value your job over sticking to your morals I suppose. In most jobs you have to leave your personal thoughts in the back of your mind and get on with it.

In short you should just get on with your job.

Besides, who would go to a service station to buy mouse traps? That's the last place I would think of going to buy something to kill of animals. Seems a bit of an odd product to sell at a service station to be honest.

[kirklancaster]

What does that have to do with anything? And more importantly, what does that have to do with you? :hehe:

Only joking. :flowers:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Nope. Well done for having the balls to speak against something you disagree with. Commendable. You should sue for 1 million for emotional distress for 1 the mouse traps and 2 calling you thick. *watches too much suits*

[Ninastar]

Nope. Well done for having the balls to speak against something you disagree with. Commendable. You should sue for 1 million for emotional distress for 1 the mouse traps and 2 calling you thick. *watches too much suits*

haha this made me chuckle... he'd probably manage to as well!

I basically think the same as most... Well done for standing up with what you believe in. As confident as I am, I definitely couldnt do that.

Do you get on well with your manager? or not really? Maybe you could ask to move them to a spot where you dont have to see them all the time? Do you think you'd be happier going somewhere else?

ive not heard of glue mouse traps until now... and god, that's horrid. I can understand normal mousetraps that just quickly end their lives, but the whole sticking to the sheet thing.. ugh i hate the thought of that

[Vicky.]

Erm, I dont think its up to staff what they sell or dont sell. If you dont like handling/selling certain things that your boss wants to sell, then quit. I dont think you did anything wrong in pointing out that it makes you uncomfortable, however to push it any further would be taking the pee I think. I view this the same way I viewed a story a while back about staff refusing to handle pork products in M&S tbh.

Never heard of these glue things before though, and they do sound horrific tbf :S

[Niamh.]

really? not EVER?

\So you think it would be right for a person to speak out against interracial marriage if their co-worker was marrying a black man? it's just her speaking her mind, and she wouldn't deserve any criticism>?

As long as you're not inciting hatred then, is that ok? :hehe:

[Creggle]

Erm, I dont think its up to staff what they sell or dont sell. If you dont like handling/selling certain things that your boss wants to sell, then quit. I dont think you did anything wrong in pointing out that it makes you uncomfortable, however to push it any further would be taking the pee I think. I view this the same way I viewed a story a while back about staff refusing to handle pork products in M&S tbh.

Never heard of these glue things before though, and they do sound horrific tbf :S

It's up to him, he's in charge. Like I said they don't sell many of them and they aren't worth much otherwise I'd shut my trap (tehe) and carry on. It's just cruel to even stock them, I don't believe in killing any intruders in your home except spiders, which I don't really have much of a choice with as if I'm near one too long I suffer panic attacks. But if you have to kill a creature in your house, at least use something that ends it fast you know? I'd love to stick one of the glue traps to some cruel ****'s face who buys one.

haha this made me chuckle... he'd probably manage to as well!

I basically think the same as most... Well done for standing up with what you believe in. As confident as I am, I definitely couldnt do that.

Do you get on well with your manager? or not really? Maybe you could ask to move them to a spot where you dont have to see them all the time? Do you think you'd be happier going somewhere else?

ive not heard of glue mouse traps until now... and god, that's horrid. I can understand normal mousetraps that just quickly end their lives, but the whole sticking to the sheet thing.. ugh i hate the thought of that

You have to go through life not giving a f :hehe:

Erm, not really. He blames me alot for what other staff do and is rude every time but I end up just telling him it's not me and to get off my back, surprised I'm still there tbh but they have a staff shortage and I'm the first new one they've had in a while that knows his own arse from his elbow so I think I can get away with quite abit :fan: Though strangely enough he did approach me today and said yesterday was fine and that I should not worry about it, he might think I'm close to quitting or something as we end up at odds with eachother most days, only been there a month!

Yeah they're vile things, I thought they were only in America I've never seen a store sell them until I started here D:

[Dollface]

I don't believe in killing any intruders in your home except spiders

omg last night there was 2 spiders above my bed, one massive one and one small one. i was like :umm2: couldn't sleep cos i was scared i'd feel the massive one crawling across my face during the night :hehe: i fell asleep eventually though :smug: woke up and guess what... THEY'RE STILL THERE. decided to name the massive one Fluffy :hehe:


aaaaand i'm rambling :hehe:

[Niamh.]

omg last night there was 2 spiders above my bed, one massive one and one small one. i was like :umm2: couldn't sleep cos i was scared i'd feel the massive one crawling across my face during the night :hehe: i fell asleep eventually though :smug: woke up and guess what... THEY'RE STILL THERE. decided to name the massive one Fluffy :hehe:


aaaaand i'm rambling :hehe:

omg how could you sleep with 2 spiders above your head? One time there was a massive spider walking next to my bed (I was actually in bed with the light off and I heard the spider walking over a paper bag.....yes heard him eek) My husband was out at the time so I took my duvet and went to sleep on the couch till he came back and found him and killed him :laugh:

[Dollface]

omg how could you sleep with 2 spiders above your head? One time there was a massive spider walking next to my bed (I was actually in bed with the light off and I heard the spider walking over a paper bag.....yes heard him eek) My husband was out at the time so I took my duvet and went to sleep on the couch till he came back and found him and killed him :laugh:

Omg you heard him?! That must've been one massive beast!

Not gonna lie, i used to have a massive spider phobia and one night there was a (quite small) spider in my room so i ..slept in the bath :hehe:
Luckily i'm not too scared of spiders nowdays :smug:

[Niamh.]

Omg you heard him?! That must've been one massive beast!

Not gonna lie, i used to have a massive spider phobia and one night there was a (quite small) spider in my room so i ..slept in the bath :hehe:
Luckily i'm not too scared of spiders nowdays :smug:

How did you stop being afraid of them?

[Creggle]

How did you stop being afraid of them?

She got awesome :smug:

[jennyjuniper]

I'm really glad you are sensitive enough to care about other living things, no matter how small. Your boss sounds a right tool, but he is your boss.
This is only a suggestion, but what about buying a couple of the live traps and when customers want to buy one of the glue ones, offer the live traps at the same price. (You may be a little out of pocket here, but your consience will be clear)

[Crimson Dynamo]

are you a man or a mouse?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I'm really glad you are sensitive enough to care about other living things, no matter how small

he laughed at an asylum seeker dying so

[Marsh.]

he laughed at an asylum seeker dying so

:joker:

[JoshBB]

If they're illegal, and you feel that it is right, report it. **** all of this 'get on with the job' ****, you shouldn't disregard your own morality for someone else.

[kirklancaster]

he laughed at an asylum seeker dying so

:joker::joker::joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

i need to look at the 2 traps i put in my loft the other day, mind you its so cold right now i bet the little buggers have died of frostbite

[Kazanne]

omg how could you sleep with 2 spiders above your head? One time there was a massive spider walking next to my bed (I was actually in bed with the light off and I heard the spider walking over a paper bag.....yes heard him eek) My husband was out at the time so I took my duvet and went to sleep on the couch till he came back and found him and killed him :laugh:

Niamh? Did you really have to kill him :nono: he probably had a family.