Simon cost Fleur the win

[sampvt]

After his openly biased liking of her, people who dislike him threw votes Bens way. Its amazing how many people are willing to vote for people he doesent like. Ok he was close to him but he made it abundantly clear that he favoured Fleur. My neighbour told me this morning she voted twice for Ben because she didn't want Simon to win with |Fleur. Strange that isn't it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i am waiting for "racism" to be cried from the rooftops

[Black Dagger]

Yes how dare the 'mentor' champion his act.

[sampvt]

Yes how dare the 'mentor' champion his act.

They were both his acts and he showed blatant favouritism, end of story.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They were both his acts and he showed blatant favouritism, end of story.

bang on right

[Jamesy]

Bit of a big assumption that people voted for Ben purely on the basis that Simon was more vocal about Fleur. I'm sure a certain percentage of viewers did. But the fact Andrea had the highest votes for weeks one to three then Ben was the clear winner from then onwards seems to suggest that Simon hyping up Fleur had very little to do with her losing.

Certainly last light too Simon seemed far more enthusiastic about Ben prior to the winner reveal.

[LukeB]

Yes how dare the 'mentor' champion his act.

Umm he should have championed both not just be bias to one.

[Cal.]

Fleur just wasn't as popular as people thought she was, considering her and Ben, out of all the other acts in the competition, have never been in the bottom 2 (well obviously), for the first few weeks she was kind of middle table, and then more towards the top end. From the voting statistics, the winner was always going to be Ben.

[LukeB]

Kirst Baker
Sorry but simon is been far two biased with fleur tonight feel sorry for ben! Everyone vote ben and wipe the smug of their faces!!
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Can see where sam is coming from but it was always gonna be ben as the winner

[Niamh.]

I didn't watch it this year but I heard that the winners song suited Ben alot more than Fleur, if Simon really was that biased how come he let the winners song suit Ben more than her? :think:

[sampvt]

Simon had no control over the song and who it suited. It was commissioned and given to them to sing. How they portrayed it was up to them, they had free reign to do their own production. Ben sang his well within the songs scope and scales, Fleur cant sing unless she is belting it out and this song wasn't a belter, her range was left wanting at the lower levels and good in parts at the top level but her range is very limited as most Karaoke singers will find.

[Niamh.]

Simon had no control over the song and who it suited. It was commissioned and given to them to sing. How they portrayed it was up to them, they had free reign to do their own production. Ben sang his well within the songs scope and scales, Fleur cant sing unless she is belting it out and this song wasn't a belter, her range was left wanting at the lower levels and good in parts at the top level but her range is very limited as most Karaoke singers will find.

I don't know if I believe that, I reckon Simon has control over everything that goes on in the show

[sampvt]

I don't know if I believe that, I reckon Simon has control over everything that goes on in the show

When I say control, he commissioned this song months ago before he knew who would be in the final. These songs are not written in the final days of the show plus Simon cant write or read music, he just paid for a potential hit.

What happened to the final rendition was down to the contestants and one of them couldn't handle the songs range and one could. Hence bens rendition was better.

[Kizzy]

It suited ben much better that's for certain.

[Niamh.]

When I say control, he commissioned this song months ago before he knew who would be in the final. These songs are not written in the final days of the show plus Simon cant write or read music, he just paid for a potential hit.

What happened to the final rendition was down to the contestants and one of them couldn't handle the songs range and one could. Hence bens rendition was better.

Didn't Andrea have a different song though? A more ballad type that would have suited Fleur more? Why couldn't he just give her that one then?

[LukeB]

Imo i loved fleur's version it did suit her but not as much as it suited ben

[Firewire]

Considering Ben won the vote every week since week 4, I don't think Simon had an influence on the final result

[Firewire]

They probably chose Something I Need as it favoured Ben because they knew he was the winner before the finale even started.

[Ninastar]

ben only one because horny old women melt at his voice

i like him and everything, but Fleur was a lot more talented and deserved it more IMO

hopefully this does her more justice though...

[sampvt]

ben only one because horny old women melt at his voice

i like him and everything, but Fleur was a lot more talented and deserved it more IMO

hopefully this does her more justice though...

The votes show your statement to be flawed as horny old women vote but they are by far the minority, its the kids that vote the most and Fleur didn't cut the mustard with the voters and those that provide the demographic of th0se that buy cd,s.

[Cherie]

ben only one because horny old women melt at his voice

i like him and everything, but Fleur was a lot more talented and deserved it more IMO

hopefully this does her more justice though...

What a way to speak about Josy :nono:

Personally Sam, I think Simon loved Ben and Fleur equally though he definately favoured Bens voice with the song, but then I read somewhere that Fleur was due to sing a Janet Jackson song but she wouldn't give permission so maybe they just ran out of time to get permission for a song?

[Josy]

Ben has topped the votes almost every week.

[LukeB]

this thread should be Simon cost Lauren her rightful place at the finals :idc:

[Cherie]

Ben has topped the votes almost every week.

And this!

[JoshBB]

He wasn't biased, and I wanted fleur to win..

[GoldHeart]

After his openly biased liking of her, people who dislike him threw votes Bens way. Its amazing how many people are willing to vote for people he doesent like. Ok he was close to him but he made it abundantly clear that he favoured Fleur. My neighbour told me this morning she voted twice for Ben because she didn't want Simon to win with |Fleur. Strange that isn't it.

Simon was supporting both Ben & Fleur he didn't favor 1 more than the other he even said he wishes he can split the prize between them because he wanted them both to win!!! :rolleyes:

so people can say they voted for Ben just to spite Fleur all they want but who cares because the voting was still very close and although i knew Ben was going to win Fleur still had a very good chance of winning
neither of them was ever in the sing of and both had a very strong fan base

Ben beat Fleur by a whisker and Fleur still finished in second place which is a huge achievement so ok be glad Big Ben won :idc:

[Cherie]

Simon was supporting both Ben & Fleur he didn't favor 1 more than the other he even said he wishes he can split the prize between them because he wanted them both to win!!! :rolleyes:

so people can say they voted for Ben just to spite Fleur all they want but who cares because the voting was still very close and although i knew Ben was going to win Fleur still had a very good chance of winning
neither of them was ever in the sing of and both had a very strong fan base

Ben beat Fleur by a whisker and Fleur still finished in second place which is a huge achievement so ok be glad Big Ben won :idc:

The voting wasn't close at all, Ben was outright winner, there is a percentage thread have a look!

[GoldHeart]

The voting wasn't close at all, Ben was outright winner, there is a percentage thread have a look!

like i said i knew Ben was going to win
so i dont understand the fuss being made ? :conf:
they were both still popular and on here look who's the most talked about yet again FLEUR so its all good :laugh2:
but it has nothing to do with Fleur being favored more than Ben because that's utter rubbish they were both equally supported by simon

[Cherie]

like i said i knew Ben was going to win
so i dont understand the fuss being made ? :conf:
they were both still popular and on here look who's the most talked about yet again FLEUR so its all good :laugh2:
but it has nothing to do with Fleur being favored more than Ben because that's utter rubbish they were both equally supported by simon

My post was in reference to you saying Ben won by a whisker :laugh: he had over 20 per cent more votes, topped the vote numerous times while Fleur never won a week.

[GoldHeart]

My post was in reference to you saying Ben won by a whisker :laugh: he had over 20 per cent more votes, topped the vote numerous times while Fleur never won a week.

:shrug: good for him lol
Fleur was never in the bottom 2 either :hello:

[joeysteele]

The voting wasn't close and Ben had been leading for 8 weeks previous to the final too.

However,other possible reasons for her not being able to swing votes her way to win were,as good as it was, it was in my view an error to do a song in the final that she only performed last week, also having the pair of them singing the same song as the winners song.
Because as to that winners song, Ben was definitely the stronger and better at performing it.

In reality however, it is clear from the voting figures, Ben had this series won from the 4th week onwards.

[girlfighter24]

No he didnt because Ben was really popular throughout and would have always been the winner. I did think because of all hype I did think the final vote would be a lot closer but it wasnt close at all

[GoldHeart]

No he didnt because Ben was really popular throughout and would have always been the winner. I did think because of all hype I did think the final vote would be a lot closer but it wasnt close at all

that's why im confused why people are still moaning about Fleur being "favored" why wont they just be glad they're Fav won :sleep:
seen as he was always going to win

[girlfighter24]

that's why im confused why people are still moaning about Fleur being "favored" why wont they just be glad they're Fav won :sleep:
seen as he was always going to win

Im not moaning im very happy Ben won but I was just saying I thought it would be a lot close based on what everybody said how this was going to be the closest final ever

[GoldHeart]

Im not moaning im very happy Ben won but I was just saying I thought it would be a lot close based on what everybody said how this was going to be the closest final ever

not you personally girlfighter
but others on this forum have moaned about Fleur being "fake" and "overrated" and " favored too much"
so i think no matter what Fleur cant win because people are still slating her :bored:

Ben wins and people are still saying Fleur got more attention than Ben
and if Fleur won then they'd say the show is fixed
so no matter what Fleur gets given a hard time :sleep: