Anti-police posters appear outside Scotland Yard

[Josy]

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A series of anti-police and anti-consumerist posters have been spotted around London, with one even fixed behind the glass of the bus stop outside New Scotland Yard.

The posters, which are footed with the logo of the Metropolitan Police next to the words ‘totally racist’ have been seen occupying advertising space on bus stops around the capital while anti-consumerist messages have also been seen on the tube.

One such poster was even spotted outside the Met’s headquarters.

‘You’re 28 times more likely to be stopped and searched in London if you don’t have white skin, because we’re still really racist,’ says the poster.

Another reads: ‘We’ve pointlessly targeted cannabis users in Lewisham, while other people legally drink their drugs.’

A third, seen in North London, says: ‘We caused the 2011 riots by shooting dead an unarmed civilian and then lying about it. And we got away with it.’

Clear Channel, who own the advertising space, told i100.co.uk that the posters were not an official campaign and would be removed.

And anarchist magazine Strike! have since taken credit for the creation of messages, but told i100.co.uk that while they designed them, they did not put them up.

Many social media users have tweeted or re-tweeted the pictures, with some using the hashtag #ACAB, an acronym standing for ‘All Coppers Are Bastards’


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[Niamh.]

I don't know, it's a tough one, on the one hand Police have a really hard job but on the other I firmly believe racial profiling goes on alot. The whole Cannabis users being targeted though is hardly the Polices fault, it's not down to them that cannabis is illegal and alcohol isn't :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

pathetic

all coppers are bastards?

disgusting idiots who put them up

[Marsh.]

Yeah, I don't think they realise that the police themselves don't actually make the laws in regards to that cannabis one.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"we caused the 2011 riots"


:facepalm:

[Livia]

One day the police will say, do you know what? F * * * you all, and walk away. Then we'll see who the bad guys really are.

I'm not suggesting there's not an element of racism in the police, but the only way to counter that is for more black and Asian people to join up. So why is that no happening? And who's fault is it that it's not happening?

Everyone seemingly has an axe of some kind to grind with the police. Until the day you really need them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

One day the police will say, do you know what? F * * * you all, and walk away. Then we'll see who the bad guys really are.

I'm not suggesting there's not an element of racism in the police, but the only way to counter that is for more black and Asian people to join up. So why is that no happening? And who's fault is it that it's not happening?

Everyone seemingly has an axe of some kind to grind with the police. Until the day you really need them.

I wonder what would happen if i saw the perp putting up that poster and whilst he was doing it I drove off in his car

who would he call? :shrug:

[Ninastar]

christ i hope none of these people get mugged, raped, attacked, burgled etc... who will they call then? da awful horrid police?

[GiRTh]

Oh please. Its like people aren't allowed to protest in any way at all.

If the people putting up the signs ever needed the police no doubt they wouldn't trust them to do the job properly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh please. Its like people aren't allowed to protest in any way at all.

If the people putting up the signs ever needed the police no doubt they wouldn't trust them to do the job properly.

:joker:

the reaching...

[GiRTh]

Every time I've dealt with the police I've listened, I've heard them, I've watched them walk away thinking almost knowing that I'd never hear from them again and I was right every single time bar none.

People have the right to protest if they feel the police are not doing the job.

[Nedusa]

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But for the purposes of balance you might say

You are 28 times more likely to be mugged/robbed/assaulted by a black man

But as we all know this is nonsense....... The number is far higher than that lol

[Nedusa]

But for the purposes of balance you might say

You are 28 times more likely to be mugged/robbed/assaulted by a black man

But as we all know this is nonsense....... The number is far higher than that lol

Before I start getting accused of racism that was my poor attempt at humour.

It has been a long day.




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[GiRTh]

Poor attempt indeed. Very poor.

[Liam-]

'The police started the 2011 riots' lmao

No, the polices' actions started a protest, the aggressive chavs who saw an opportunity for free things started the riots, misplaced blame at it's best right here.

[Nedusa]

Poor attempt indeed. Very poor.

I know, my apologies ... There is no humour in Racism

[GiRTh]

I'll accept the apology in the spirit that it was given.

[MTVN]

The police aren't above criticism, and imo institutional racism does remain as well as a worrying lack of accountability

That said I strongly disagree with the 'ACAB' sentiment and I'm sure that the vast majority of the rank and file are decent people genuinely committed to protecting our streets

[Livia]

The police aren't above criticism, and imo institutional racism does remain as well as a worrying lack of accountability

That said I strongly disagree with the 'ACAB' sentiment and I'm sure that the vast majority of the rank and file are decent people genuinely committed to protecting our streets

Agree with all this. And like I said in an earlier post, the only way to stop racism within the police is to have more black and Asian officers in the force. So... why aren't there? Change things from within.

[GiRTh]

Agree with all this. And like I said in an earlier post, the only way to stop racism within the police is to have more black and Asian officers in the force. So... why aren't there? Change things from within.http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/30/why-top-black-police-officers

Great quote from that article.

Young minority officers find it tough to retain their enthusiasm in a difficult environment, Wilson says. "They may witness questionable language being directed at BAME suspects and young black and Asian men being stopped inappropriately, and all this adds to a negative experience. That is not helpful. These are the very people we want to come through the ranks."

[Livia]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/30/why-top-black-police-officers

Great quote from that article.

Yeah, I understand that... but surely it would be helpful if they could raise the numbers within the police. A good friend of mine was in the CID for a long time, and he's gay. He put up with all kinds of comments and abuse but things are improving now as the generations go on. The same with female officers, they had to run the gauntlet of sexism for years.

I have never heard the police make a racist remark. But then, I probably wouldn't, would I.

[GiRTh]

Yeah, I understand that... but surely it would be helpful if they could raise the numbers within the police. A good friend of mine was in the CID for a long time, and he's gay. He put up with all kinds of comments and abuse but things are improving now as the generations go on. The same with female officers, they had to run the gauntlet of sexism for years.

I have never heard the police make a racist remark. But then, I probably wouldn't, would I.
It was a police officer who made that comment in Jan 2013, just over a year ago. Doesn't seem, to have gotten much better, does it?

[Livia]

It was a police officer who made that comment in Jan 2013, just over a year ago. Doesn't seem, to have gotten much better, does it?

It has changed though, don't you think? I mean, it's still appalling that racism and any other kind of ism is still alive and well in the Force, but when you see and read things about how it was back in the 70s and 80s, things are better, don't you think? Sadly enlightenment is just glacially slow.

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/30/why-top-black-police-officers

Great quote from that article.

The quote is made by Paul Wilson

" He left in (the Police) 2010, the same year he reached a non-liablilty out-of-court settlement with Scotland Yard, having alleged that his career was held back. He alleged he was made a target after writing reports outlining accusations of racial bias in the Met."

he rose to Superintendent and was a founding member and former chairman of the Metropolitan Black Police Association. So he seemed to do well for himself.

Not sure i would trust what he has to say about it what with his massive Axe he has that needs sharpened

[GiRTh]

The quote is made by Paul Wilson

" He left in (the Police) 2010, the same year he reached a non-liablilty out-of-court settlement with Scotland Yard, having alleged that his career was held back. He alleged he was made a target after writing reports outlining accusations of racial bias in the Met."

he rose to Superintendent and was a founding member and former chairman of the Metropolitan Black Police Association. So he seemed to do well for himself.

Not sure i would trust what he has to say about it what with his massive Axe he has that needs sharpenedWhy would he lie? HE doenst seem to be particularly angry as you have said he's done well for himself.

So are you saying he's lying and young officers dont have to put with horrendous racist language directed at BAME suspects and they dont have to watch Asian and black men being stopped inappropriately. Why would make up stuff like that?

[Livia]

Why would he lie? HE doenst seem to be particularly angry as you have said he's done well for himself.

Got to agree. I doesn't follow that because he's done well that he can't see what others go through.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why would he lie? HE doenst seem to be particularly angry as you have said he's done well for himself.

sounds like he did not get the promotion he wanted so pulled out the race card for a nice little earner

[GiRTh]

Got to agree. I doesn't follow that because he's done well that he can't see what others go through.

sounds like he did not get the promotion he wanted so pulled out the race card for a nice little earnerIsn't it amazing how different people see things differently.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Isn't it amazing how different people see things differently.

well you are the one who does not trust the police but when a black copper makes an allegation you cant see why he would lie

:joker:

[GiRTh]

well you are the one who does not trust the police but when a black copper makes an allegation you cant see why he would lie

:joker:HE may well be lying for all we know you are quite right but he doenst need to lie now does he. He has a great life now he's out of the force. :thumbs:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/met-police-chief-drops-his-race-discrimination-claim-6468089.html

He dropped the case after reaching an amicable settlement. Dont see why he needs to lie when he seems to have got what he wanted.

[Crimson Dynamo]

HE may well be lying for all we know you are quite right but he doenst need to lie now does he. He has a great life now he's out of the force. :thumbs:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/met-police-chief-drops-his-race-discrimination-claim-6468089.html

He dropped the case after reaching an amicable settlement. Dont see why he needs to lie when he seems to have got what he wanted.

" but received an undisclosed five-figure sum for dropping the case. "

You could not make it up.....

[Brother Leon]

Last poster is stupid, but the first two I couldn't preach any stronger.

[Brother Leon]

'The police started the 2011 riots' lmao

No, the polices' actions started a protest, the aggressive chavs who saw an opportunity for free things started the riots, misplaced blame at it's best right here.

It was a peaceful protest until the police beat up a woman and locked it down.

[JoshBB]

Loved these posters.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Loved these posters.

You think all policemen and women are bastards?

That is quite sad

[T*]

Loved these posters.

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[T*]

its not our police that are the awful ones, are people confusing it with the american controversies or just randomly rebelling and going 'fuk da uk polizz'?

[kirklancaster]

I wonder what would happen if i saw the perp putting up that poster and whilst he was doing it I drove off in his car

who would he call? :shrug:

:joker: Ghostbusters? - Who ya gonna call?:hehe:

[Marsh.]

:joker: Ghostbusters? - Who ya gonna call?:hehe:

:joker:

[thesheriff443]

is it possible that you can be in the police force and be racist?, yes
is it possible that you can be a priest and abuse a child?, yes
is it possible to be a mother and kill your own child?, yes

life is selective!

[kirklancaster]

christ i hope none of these people get mugged, raped, attacked, burgled etc... who will they call then? da awful horrid police?

I agree. The Police is a 'Thin Blue Line'. It is an 'Imperfect Thin Blue Line'. But it is the only 'Blue Line' we have got, and I - for one - prefer it, imperfections and all, to Anarchy.

[Ammi]

I don't know, it's a tough one, on the one hand Police have a really hard job but on the other I firmly believe racial profiling goes on alot. The whole Cannabis users being targeted though is hardly the Polices fault, it's not down to them that cannabis is illegal and alcohol isn't :shrug:

..yeah this really..there are some excellent police officers but it can't be dismissed that there are also some that are very much not..also, not specifically police officers either..I was watching an interview with a black actor the other day who was born in Nigeria and then moved to the USA...and something he said was really thought provoking..which was that it's not until you have a comparison of living in a country where you are not a minority/where you are not prejudiced against for your skin colour... that you realise how much racial profiling does exist ...

[Niamh.]

..yeah this really..there are some excellent police officers but it can't be dismissed that there are also some that are very much not..also, not specifically police officers either..I was watching an interview with a black actor the other day who was born in Nigeria and then moved to the USA...and something he said was really thought provoking..which was that it's not until you have a comparison of living in a country where you are not a minority/where you are not prejudiced against for your skin colour... that you realise how much racial profiling does exist ...

Yeah, I can imagine so

[Nedusa]

is it possible that you can be in the police force and be racist?, yes
is it possible that you can be a priest and abuse a child?, yes
is it possible to be a mother and kill your own child?, yes

life is selective!

Yes.........I agree with you but I think we are more concerned with the idea of institutionalised racism not just the odd case here and there.






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