Black Teen Shot Dead By Police In St Louis (CCTV shows he had a Gun) [Archive] - ThisisBigBrother.com

user104658

24-12-2014, 10:44 AM

It's "news" because there have been police out in riot gear and people are kicking off. Many claiming that the spot where there is a gun lying marked as evidence, had no gun in it earlier.

However, I personally am a bit dubious this time and suspect this young man did pull out a gun. Which leads to an interesting problem. Seems like people are going to start riots every time a young person is shot, whether they are in fact dangerous or not. Of course people are right to take to the streets when an unarmed kid gets shot but, one wonders, because that has happened a few times, have (stupid, sheepy) people become unable to tell the difference between that and incidents where firearms really are involved? Does someone else actually have to be shot before an armed criminal can be fired upon?

lostalex

24-12-2014, 12:23 PM

Why do civil rights ****tards always pick the worst ****ing poster boys. rodney king, oj simpson, trayvon marton, mike brown, now another dead thug.

Why can't they find any examples of INNOCENT black men to rally around? why is it always asshole thugs that deserved it that people rally around? I really don't understand.

Crimson Dynamo

24-12-2014, 01:10 PM

death by cop, probably a suicide.

poor policeman

Ninastar

24-12-2014, 01:19 PM

cant wait for the theories like 'he didnt really have a gun' or 'that policeman was racist!!!'

JoshBB

24-12-2014, 01:28 PM

But they're meant to shoot at the leg or hand, to disarm.. not kill. Stupid ****ing police need to be retrained in America I swear.

Kizzy

24-12-2014, 01:36 PM

Won't there be CCTV in a petrol station?

Crimson Dynamo

24-12-2014, 01:42 PM

But they're meant to shoot at the leg or hand, to disarm.. not kill. Stupid ****ing police need to be retrained in America I swear.

Yes I can just see the Policeman now with a gun pointed at his head thinking "hmmm, which leg will I shoot him on or perhaps the arm"...

unbelievable:rolleyes:

Jamesy

24-12-2014, 01:59 PM

If a white 18 year old was shot I bet no where near as much 'shock' would be received.

Going by the Sky article it sounds pretty standard really. The teenager had a criminal history and pointing a gun right at a police officer will lead you to be shot yourself.

Creggle

24-12-2014, 02:09 PM

Thank god the officer didn't get shot :shocked:

GiRTh

24-12-2014, 02:14 PM

If he pointed a gun at the officer then its a justified shoot.

BBfanUSA

24-12-2014, 02:16 PM

I haven't seen this reported on the national news shows here.

Hell has frozen over.

Anyway. You don't ever point your gun at a police officer. Especially in a place like that.

arista

24-12-2014, 02:21 PM

Won't there be CCTV in a petrol station?

I hope so
then it will be so clear,

arista

24-12-2014, 04:09 PM

CNN USA is going Over the top on this.
FoxNews USA is not

arista

24-12-2014, 05:24 PM

CCTV Shows Moment Before Officer Shot Teen

http://news.sky.com/story/1397150/cctv-shows-moment-before-officer-shot-teen
CCTV Video on this link

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/12/24/358732/default/v1/cegrab-20141224-142309-139-1-762x428.jpg

Just watched it on CNN USA
the fool Teen did point the gun at the cops

His Mother is running around saying he never had a Gun
How The Feck would she know.

Ninastar

24-12-2014, 07:13 PM

Fetch The Bolt Cutters

24-12-2014, 07:33 PM

apparently the cop was issued a bodycam but he had it turned off at the time of the shooting :unsure:

Fetch The Bolt Cutters

24-12-2014, 07:40 PM

https://33.media.tumblr.com/a3f358199218ed6851b41c661a2a6a50/tumblr_nh2va7jmeO1qaf2nxo2_500.png

Fetch The Bolt Cutters

24-12-2014, 07:41 PM

and his body was left there on display for over 2 hours :umm2:

Fetch The Bolt Cutters

24-12-2014, 07:43 PM

https://33.media.tumblr.com/2f71b072199eff897193db776bb8f32a/tumblr_nh2x93r5KG1qaf2nxo4_500.png

this is actually disgusting

Niall

24-12-2014, 09:09 PM

why is this news?

Because another ****ing black kid has been shot to death. Another. It's ****ing atrocious that this keeps happening and deserves to be news everywhere to shame the racist shitheads into the stopping with this crap.

Niall

24-12-2014, 09:11 PM

I don't get how the American police keep getting away with this time after time after time. It's a complete testament to how racism is so deep seated in society that this is happening over and over.

Liam-

24-12-2014, 09:12 PM

Fetch The Bolt Cutters

24-12-2014, 09:19 PM

I'm not being funny, but how do you know that these murders (and that is what they are) are not racially motivated

Niall

24-12-2014, 09:21 PM

I'm not being funny, but he was killed because he took aim at police with a very real gun, this is not like the other case where an unarmed man was killed, this is totally different, it's also got nothing to do with the 'victim's' race.

He was unarmed, with his mother and girlfriend when the police shot him, and when he was laying there dying they not only refused to let his ****ing Mum comfort him but they just called crowd control instead of medical assistance.

Couple that with the fact that the St Louis police has been exposed as having connections with the ****ing KKK, then you tell me that these killings aren't racially motivated. go on. I bloody well dare you.

Creggle

24-12-2014, 09:55 PM

A lawful killing of a person attempting to take an officers life leads to numerous people rioting and trying to smash up innocent businesses, AGAIN. They even threw fireworks at a petrol station... Pls give your riot response m60s America k thx.

He was unarmed, with his mother and girlfriend when the police shot him, and when he was laying there dying they not only refused to let his ****ing Mum comfort him but they just called crowd control instead of medical assistance.

Couple that with the fact that the St Louis police has been exposed as having connections with the ****ing KKK, then you tell me that these killings aren't racially motivated. go on. I bloody well dare you.

They aren't racially motivated, people suicide via cop all the time in America, stop grasping onto the fact that some of them are black, it's racist in of itself. Racism will always be there when it's constantly bought up for no reason, it will never die out for as long as there are fanatics that scream racism at the drop of a hat.

I'm not being funny, but how do you know that these murders (and that is what they are) are not racially motivated

So if somebody tries to kill you and you kill them instead that is murder? I hope you're never in a situation where you have to defend yourself scott because it sounds like you'd rather be the one that is killed :/

arista

24-12-2014, 10:18 PM

apparently the cop was issued a bodycam but he had it turned off at the time of the shooting :unsure:

Well Good job the Petrol Station had CCTV

arista

24-12-2014, 10:25 PM

I don't get how the American police keep getting away with this time after time after time. It's a complete testament to how racism is so deep seated in society that this is happening over and over.

On this case
The Police were correct
the Youth Pointed a Gun at them
he could have killed the 2 cops
so a Cop had to shoot fast
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/12/24/358732/default/v1/cegrab-20141224-142309-139-1-762x428.jpg

Creggle

24-12-2014, 11:04 PM

:douf: Artista

Ninastar

24-12-2014, 11:05 PM

if the police were really racist, there would be a HELL of a lot more black people being killed

Fetch The Bolt Cutters

24-12-2014, 11:10 PM

if the police were really racist, there would be a HELL of a lot more black people being killed

http://i.imgur.com/uM8hpJZ.png

Creggle

24-12-2014, 11:12 PM

Swear this forum is like reading a YouTube comment section sometimes :creep:

Niall

24-12-2014, 11:17 PM

On this case
The Police were correct
the Youth Pointed a Gun at them
he could have killed the 2 cops
so a Cop had to shoot fast
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/12/24/358732/default/v1/cegrab-20141224-142309-139-1-762x428.jpg

I don't care that doesn't justify ****ing shooting someone to death. If German cops can regularly defuse armed standoffs without murdering someone then so can the ****ing American cops.

if the police were really racist, there would be a HELL of a lot more black people being killed

SINCE 2009 the American police have MURDERED the following black people

https://38.media.tumblr.com/d869bbe48f8d0944e0e6bb70df4fe29c/tumblr_ng8kfgtR8j1u533fzo3_r2_1280.jpg

BYE

Niall

24-12-2014, 11:19 PM

And that list has been added to since it was completed, so in fact they've murdered more people than that.

Brother Leon

24-12-2014, 11:20 PM

This is a completely different case tbf. Michael Brown and Eric Garner were unlawfully killed and those officers should be locked up, but is guy asked for it. This is getting too messy now.

Niall

24-12-2014, 11:24 PM

They aren't racially motivated, people suicide via cop all the time in America, stop grasping onto the fact that some of them are black, it's racist in of itself. Racism will always be there when it's constantly bought up for no reason, it will never die out for as long as there are fanatics that scream racism at the drop of a hat.

I'm not grasping at it at all. Between 2010-2012 there were 31 shootings by police for black people per million. For whites? Just 1. 1. Tell me that's not racially motivated. Go-on. Tell me.

It's not racist to call out institutions that contribute heavily to institutionalised racism like the police do in states when it comes to people of colour. I'm actually pointing out the obvious. I'm not a fanatic, all you need do is a little research and you'd see well enough how the American cops are skewed in the favour of whites.

If white teenage boys were being shot left right and centre by the cops like this then there would be mass outrage. But of course, it's people of colour being murdered here.

Marsh.

24-12-2014, 11:25 PM

I'm not grasping at it at all. Between 2010-2012 there were 31 shootings by police for black people per million. For whites? Just 1. 1. Tell me that's not racially motivated. Go-on. Tell me.

It's not racist to call out institutions that contribute heavily to institutionalised racism like the police do in states when it comes to people of colour. I'm actually pointing out the obvious. I'm not a fanatic, all you need do is a little research and you'd see well enough how the American cops are skewed in the favour of whites.

Maybe there were simply more black criminals. :shrug:

Niall

24-12-2014, 11:34 PM

Maybe there were simply more black criminals. :shrug:

I seriously doubt that would be the sole reason for a 30 fold increase in shootings for black people.

Even if there was more instances of crime for people of colour, you need only look at how the police in the states deal with criminals to see the problem. White criminals are often taken down and imprisoned, whereas blacks are gone after with lethal force for relatively lesser crimes.

Ninastar

24-12-2014, 11:39 PM

I don't care that doesn't justify ****ing shooting someone to death. If German cops can regularly defuse armed standoffs without murdering someone then so can the ****ing American cops.

SINCE 2009 the American police have MURDERED the following black people

https://38.media.tumblr.com/d869bbe48f8d0944e0e6bb70df4fe29c/tumblr_ng8kfgtR8j1u533fzo3_r2_1280.jpg

BYE

murdered? i bet 75% of them had guns on them/were ready to kill the cops too.

and as mentioned, this is completely different. people are just grasping at straws now

and as for that list, I'd love to see a graph/list/whatever made of all the police men/women killed on duty since 2009. I bet it's a lot higher.

Ninastar

24-12-2014, 11:41 PM

This is a completely different case tbf. Michael Brown and Eric Garner were unlawfully killed and those officers should be locked up, but is guy asked for it. This is getting too messy now.

glad you think so

its nice to see that you're not just following what the internet says and you can make up a mind of your own

Niall

24-12-2014, 11:44 PM

murdered? i bet 75% of them had guns on them/were ready to kill the cops too.

and as mentioned, this is completely different. people are just grasping at straws now

and as for that list, I'd love to see a graph/list/whatever made of all the police men/women killed on duty since 2009. I bet it's a lot higher.

Yes murdered. And often enough not really: again, like i said before police in the states have shown time and again with white criminals that they're perfectly able to diffuse an armed standoff without putting the criminal in a bodybag. So why can't they do the same with people of colour?

This isn't any different anyway. He wasn't armed. He was attacked and left to die. Like Michael. Like Eric. And even if he was armed, that's no way to bring someone to justice. It's absolutely disgusting.

Ninastar

24-12-2014, 11:48 PM

we'll just have to agree to disagree. this isnt something we will ever agree on...

Northern Monkey

25-12-2014, 12:08 AM

Maybe the white guys are'nt the ones running around petrol stations and the streets with guns.......Just sayin'.To get shot by the police you have to put yourself in that situation in the first place.I seriously doubt the police go around America hunting for black guys to shoot.They're not this guy -
http://youtu.be/vTLQdcf9DWc

arista

25-12-2014, 12:09 AM

"I don't care that doesn't justify ****ing shooting someone to death."

You can not change America
it is built by the Gun

Shaun

25-12-2014, 12:16 AM

It's 2014, how is CCTV footage still that grainy :think:

This is a completely different case tbf. Michael Brown and Eric Garner were unlawfully killed and those officers should be locked up, but is guy asked for it. This is getting too messy now.

Basically.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo

25-12-2014, 01:53 AM

CCTV looks doctored. Is there cctv that shows before and after that moment?

http://i.imgur.com/Azpr8aE.jpg

Marsh.

25-12-2014, 01:55 AM

Police have gone to all that trouble of doctoring a scene to murder a random black teenager on purpose?

Ok.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo

25-12-2014, 02:02 AM

Police have gone to all that trouble of doctoring a scene to murder a random black teenager on purpose?

Ok.

Think about it. This incident happened not far from Mike Brown, the protest s are still going on with worldwide support now. They don't need another incident that suggests similarities so to make it go away show visible gun. It's not like police have never covered anything before.

I think I read his mum said he didn't have a gun. I could be wrong I haven't read everything yet.

He was 18
He was unarmed
He was with his mother and girlfriend when he was shot @ 11:30pm last night (Dec. 23, 2014) by police
He was shot for fitting the description of a suspect
He was alive for 30 mins after he was shot
Police left his body there for 2 hours
Instead of calling for an ambulance police called for crowd control
Police wouldn’t let his mother comfort him while he laid there dying
Police planted a gun after there were pictures of there being no gun
Police body cams were off
Police dash cam was off
Police used security footage that cuts off right before the shooting
Police put his body in the back of an suv like he was something other than human
Police laughed at people grieving in the crowd

Marsh.

25-12-2014, 02:32 AM

He was with his mother and girlfriend when he was shot @ 11:30pm last night (Dec. 23, 2014) by police
He was alive for 30 mins after he was shot
Instead of calling for an ambulance police called for crowd control

Why didn't the mother/girlfriend call any ambulance if they were so concerned police hadn't done it? :think: This doesn't make sense.

Police left his body there for 2 hours

In situations like this, the dead body being moved hours later is not uncommon. Surely if they wanted to cover anything up they'd have the body moved ASAP?

Police put his body in the back of an suv like he was something other than human
Police laughed at people grieving in the crowd

This sounds like twitter hyperbole to me. But I too haven't read everything yet.