Whats more important to Big Brothers fans?

[Withano]

A fair game or an entertaining one.

C5 seem to think (and I'm not sure if they're wrong) that viewers like the game to be rigged for entertainment.

I much prefer Channel 4's 'nominate two people and the most votes are up' method which is virtually non existent now. It was like Big Brother was a computer.. inhuman.. I think the producers impact have completely destroyed the format on C5. It seems like a bunch of random events instead of a game nowadays.

There is not one good reason why Perez should be automatically in the final or automatically up for every eviction. It doesn't make sense as a format of a TV show or as a gameshow, he just went up to the diary room one time and was told it was happening. Dumb.

[Niamh.]

Oh absolutely a fair game, I'm firmly on the "back to basics" team. I like Perez alot, think he's a fantastic HM but I don't want him just getting a pass to the final just the same as I didn't want helen to have one (that was even worse though because she got it on launch night so didn't have to worry about noms once or ever have to face the public like everyone else)

[sampvt]

If they play the game fair, the storylines will develop as normal. Force feeding us crap allows the HM's to get into the game and then they end up running the bb team like Speidi and Perez are doing. This is not an American game show so why play it like that.

[Lostie!]

I don't derive entertainment from rigging. The very principle of that happening makes me resent the show, and therefore not enjoy it.

Just let things play out naturally.

[-Sue-]

I like edge of my seat BB/CBB rather than predictable BB/CBB so playing fair is all good in my book :D

[chuff me dizzy]

No rigging whatsoever

[bots]

fair game, forced entertainment is always unwatchable to me. Why give the pass to the final to Perez, why not Kav or Nadia or whoever, without even a vote it just plain sucks

[Niamh.]

fair game, forced entertainment is always unwatchable to me. Why give the pass to the final to Perez, why not Kav or Nadia or whoever, without even a vote it just plain sucks

It shouldn't be given to anyone at all imo

[johne]

A fair game? I can just imagine it. Poster after poster on the MB's saying, "This is the most boring CBB ever....I'm not watching this crap anymore....why did we get rid of the most entertaining HM's so early on...." etc., etc.

Then the viewing figures would collapse, BB would be scrapped, and we could all sit back and watch re-runs of pathetic USA sitcoms on C5.

[bots]

It shouldn't be given to anyone at all imo

i agree, but to just give it to perez without any justification is probably the worst thing BB has done in its history

[Lostie!]

A fair game? I can just imagine it. Poster after poster on the MB's saying, "This is the most boring CBB ever....I'm not watching this crap anymore...." etc., etc.

Then the viewing figures would collapse, BB would be scrapped, and we could all sit back and watch pathetic re-runs of USA sitcoms on C5.

Those who are incapable of changing the channel, perhaps.

And I don't agree with your suggestion that fair = boring. There are plenty of ways to spice up a series without outright rigging it.

[Beso]

all this started with the showing of what was said in the diary rom a few years ago..never liked it and never will, let it be..hour long secret tasks yes, passes to final or up every week no..or allowing one housemate all the power on opening night, a definite no..unless we have voted for all those things then no no no.

[johne]

Those who are incapable of changing the channel, perhaps.

And I don't agree with your suggestion that fair = boring. There are plenty of ways to spice up a series without outright rigging it.

Good point about other ways to spice it up.

[Shaun]

A fair game? I can just imagine it. Poster after poster on the MB's saying, "This is the most boring CBB ever....I'm not watching this crap anymore....why did we get rid of the most entertaining HM's so early on...." etc., etc.

Then the viewing figures would collapse, BB would be scrapped, and we could all sit back and watch re-runs of pathetic USA sitcoms on C5.

The first week of every series is proof enough that minimal production interference works. Ok, Katie H got given the power to nominate Alex & Chloe for no discernable reason, but otherwise there were no'twists' that affected nominations and immunity from said nominations until Perez's walking. I think it is safe to say that the series hasn't suffered from a dip in ratings until that point.

Besides, aiming for ratings should never be the main priority. Putting together a strong and fair game should be.

[Chuck]

More rigging for the housemates that I support and no rigging for the housemates I detest.

[SaveUs]

Well I mean people pay for their votes, no rigging!

[Stevep]

I don't necessarily mind subtle rigging here and there to create a more entertaining house, for me that has been done for a long while, but when it's as significant as giving someone a pass to the final then thats just plain wrong.

Perez probably didn't do too well with the votes last eviction so out of fear he may be evicted they are giving him a pass to the final.

[Raph]

Definitely no rigging and NO BLOODY RECRUITS :fist:

[InOne]

I think people need to accept the social experiment is well and truly over. Just try enjoy it for what it is, if not switch off.

[Stormy]

I like the rigging...but not necessarily like the idea of BB picking who will do what. For example, this secret room task would have been awesome if the British Public could have voted for who gets in the room rather than BB choosing Perez or who got to nominate on the first day instead of BB choosing Katie H.

[HBB1508]

No rigging at all - I don't vote now because of it.

[JoshBB]

Drama should come from great housemates, not from twists and rigs.

[wendywillow]

I don't like rigging, but I don't think theyre really doing it either, they have nothing more invested in Perez than in any other housemate at this point. They do the stupid secret room/power twist every year so why does everyone think they thought it up for Perez? Perez was ready to go back in the house so they didn't do it to save him from leaving either. when it happens to someone who is hated everyone screams conspiracy. but if its a nobody no one thinks about it

[Jack_]

More rigging for entertainment purposes any day. The public can't be trusted to make logical decisions for the benefit of the show, so I am all for production manipulation to ensure that the housemates who are contributing to the success of a particular series (if that's the case) are kept around. I'm quite happy to admit I would be pissed off if they were fixing it for the wrong people, but on C5 it thankfully hasn't really happened...yet.

The public shouldn't be able to vote and our format needs scrapping, but of course the revenue generated means that won't be happening any time soon, so the next best thing is for the producers to put a stop to detrimental public decisions that ruin series after series when they're just getting going.

If anything I wish they'd take the rigging further. Start handing out final passes to housemates with the most social media mentions, eject housemates who do **** all. Bring it on I say :clap1:

[Shaun]

jack why are you so disgusting

[daniel-lewis-1985]

DemolitionRed, johne, parmnion, Stormy

I cant believe you actually voted for rigging from producers :o

Can I ask are you all youngsters (teens) and fairly new to the show?

[Jack_]

jack why are you so disgusting

:hmph:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

:hmph:

Pervert.

[bots]

More rigging for entertainment purposes any day. The public can't be trusted to make logical decisions for the benefit of the show, so I am all for production manipulation to ensure that the housemates who are contributing to the success of a particular series (if that's the case) are kept around. I'm quite happy to admit I would be pissed off if they were fixing it for the wrong people, but on C5 it thankfully hasn't really happened...yet.

The public shouldn't be able to vote and our format needs scrapping, but of course the revenue generated means that won't be happening any time soon, so the next best thing is for the producers to put a stop to detrimental public decisions that ruin series after series when they're just getting going.

If anything I wish they'd take the rigging further. Start handing out final passes to housemates with the most social media mentions, eject housemates who do **** all. Bring it on I say :clap1:

Its an interesting one. I think one of the reasons many people don't watch bb is because they don't want to invest the time in it. If it was all manipulation and random events, people could pick it up and drop it as they see fit. In Russia there is a reality program that has been going on for years, its treated similarly to a soap.

[Jack_]

DemolitionRed, johne, parmnion, Stormy

I cant believe you actually voted for rigging from producers :o

Can I ask are you all youngsters (teens) and fairly new to the show?

I've been watching for ten years this year, if you asked me five years ago my answer would probably have been different but the format on C5 is so far removed from what it once was, coupled with the fact that I am so fed up of the majority of decisions the public make on this show that I'm quite happy for things to be manipulated and rigged to ensure it stays on air, which is effectively what they're doing.

Its an interesting one. I think one of the reasons many people don't watch bb is because they don't want to invest the time in it. If it was all manipulation and random events, people could pick it up and drop it as they see fit. In Russia there is a reality program that has been going on for years, its treated similarly to a soap.

The problem is the way the public views the show, and it's obviously from a subjective and viewer perspective than an objective and production one - like I get that, it makes sense, but that doesn't mean it's beneficial for the show. Of course the public aren't going to realise or even admit the housemates they hate benefit the show, cause to them they don't, but in the grand scheme of things 99% of the time they do and I see no issue with the producers ensuring they're kept around to make sure the majority of people stick with it and it's not axed. People love to hate other people, and the longer hateable characters are kept in the house, the more people tune in and the more the press are interested.

[Gillian-73]

No rigging! I hate it despite whether it helps or hinders housemates I like!!

[Jason.]

I hate rigging and manipulation. But having said that, I would hate back to basics.

I want a series like BB5-BB7. Less manipulation, but good enough to ensure natural conflict.
I think BB6 was perfect at doing this, which is why it is one of my favourites.

[poppsywoppsy]

We should protest by not voting, that would hit their bank balance.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I hate rigging and manipulation. But having said that, I would hate back to basics.

I want a series like BB5-BB7. Less manipulation, but good enough to ensure natural conflict.
I think BB6 was perfect at doing this, which is why it is one of my favourites.

BB6 would get so many complaints now.

Watching it back last year it was shocking what everyone got away with, racism, bullying and masterbating.

God what I would give for another series like that and give all these Ofcom crew a seizure.

[Cherie]

More rigging for the housemates that I support and no rigging for the housemates I detest.

:hehe: :clap2:

[Ramsay]

I think people need to accept the social experiment is well and truly over. Just try enjoy it for what it is, if not switch off.

Pretty much

[Pincho Paxton]

I think there should be an option called 'Go with the flow.' I don't want a repetitive Big Brother show. Each year is a bit different, and this year the game is unique. I just want each show to be unique, so I don't really care to pick any option. I go with the flow.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I think there should be an option called 'Go with the flow.' I don't want a repetitive Big Brother show. Each year is a bit different, and this year the game is unique. I just want each show to be unique, so I don't really care to pick any option. I go with the flow.

So they don't do face to face nominations, a secret room and secret missions every year?

What is unique about this year?

Its been good but the twists and tasks are just repeats of previous years.

[johne]

DemolitionRed, johne, parmnion, Stormy

I cant believe you actually voted for rigging from producers :o

Can I ask are you all youngsters (teens) and fairly new to the show?

Surprise, surprise - I'm a boring old fogy, and a long term BB addict.

Personally, I loved the original format, especially the (once weekly?) show that was all about psychology and the science of the experiment, so I'm really in your camp. However, for practical reasons, and being older and more cynical, I must accept that ratings are all these days.

Return to the old format and that will be the last series. I'd rather have a rigged show (with minimal rigging) than no show at all.

[Pincho Paxton]

So they don't do face to face nominations, a secret room and secret missions every year?

What is unique about this year?

Its been good but the twists and tasks are just repeats of previous years.

I don't know why you are asking, I have watched Big Brother since the first one, I didn't watch the Brian Dowling ones, but I have never seen a series where an housemate takes over the show.

[Withano]

More rigging for entertainment purposes any day. The public can't be trusted to make logical decisions for the benefit of the show, so I am all for production manipulation to ensure that the housemates who are contributing to the success of a particular series (if that's the case) are kept around. I'm quite happy to admit I would be pissed off if they were fixing it for the wrong people, but on C5 it thankfully hasn't really happened...yet.

The public shouldn't be able to vote and our format needs scrapping, but of course the revenue generated means that won't be happening any time soon, so the next best thing is for the producers to put a stop to detrimental public decisions that ruin series after series when they're just getting going.

If anything I wish they'd take the rigging further. Start handing out final passes to housemates with the most social media mentions, eject housemates who do **** all. Bring it on I say :clap1:

Are you a TOWIE/ MIC fan? I feel like there's a connection between all this rigging and people who prefer reality/entertainment shows to reality/gameshows but could be wrong?

[Amy Jade]

No rigging or manipulation please. It seriously puts me off watching the show all together.

[Johnnyuk123]

Bring back the chickens the clothes ringer and the veg plot then leave them to it. Simples!

[wendywillow]

Bring back the chickens the clothes ringer and the veg plot then leave them to it. Simples!

those days are over..... :wavey: along with live feeds......if the twists and manipulation keep the show alive, then we have to accept it. its better than no bb. you don't know whatcha got till its gone

[Withano]

those days are over..... : its better than no bb. you don't know whatcha got till its gone

Is it? Manipulated scenes for entertainment purposes sounds similar to TOWIE to me... And TOWIE is a disservice to mankind so..

[Benjamin]

Drama should come from great housemates, not from twists and rigs.

This. If the producers picked better housemates initially then we would need less twists. I mean honestly sometimes they pick such dire casts for civilian and it is not like they have a shortage of applicants.