Do you have a problem with me?

[Headie]

There's been a lot of talk about how all the "weaves" are vile people or w/e and I've seen lots of discussions saying bad things about people, but I've never actually had someone take the time to message me and address a problem or issue they have with me.

Ever since the unbannings I've been doing my best to rebuild bridges and try and get along with people again, and I've tried to avoid any sort of dramas that could happen involving me, but I feel like there is still lots of people who are not being upfront or honest and idk, I just want people to be honest with me and settle it out tbh so it can all be done and dusted. I guess the whole being labelled a "bully" thing just doesn't feel good when I've tried hard to restore things back to normal, and I don't like the feeling that I'm being secretly judged because of who I'm friends with :worry:

[LukeB]

no of course not! you know that! you're one of my favourite members :love:

we had our differences but that was like E10. we get on a lot better now

[Calderyon]

Not that i know of.

[Liam-]

In before the lock.

You personally? no, the people you associate with? Yes

[Ramsay]

http://i.imgur.com/sZAdkFa.jpg

[armand.kay]

Hayden you are a great poster and contribute a lot to this forum. If a few people can't take the time to get to know you because of the actions of a few of your friends then it's their loss

[Smithy]

You personally? no, the people you associate with? Yes

Tbh

[Headie]

In before the lock.

You personally? no, the people you associate with? Yes

Thank you for being honest and keeping it 100 with me.

I understand the latter half of your post, but personally I feel I shouldn't be judged because of who I talk to/get along with because I try and get along with everyone :laugh: Is it just certain individuals or the "group" as a whole? Because there genuinely are some funny, friendly people who I have never seen do anything directly malicious or rule-breaking.

I would hope the mods would not lock this thread as this is a genuine question and I think it's better to beef out the issues rather than ignore them.

[Spenton]

we should be all calm and peace to be all over the places

[Shaun]

You should know I don't think any less of you LOL if I didn't like / trust you I wouldn't have added you on the PSN. If this is just about the Simpsons thread it really wasn't meant as shade I just forgot you the first time and tried to think of another major character :unsure:

oh hello Spenton

[Crimson Dynamo]

perched for my "stop hating on LT thread"

[MB.]

we should be all calm and peace to be all over the places

Thanks

(I don't)

[Brother Leon]

Pretty sure it was Salman and a couple sheep/new members that were twats so no problem with you personally.

[Headie]

no of course not! you know that! you're one of my favourite members :love:

we had our differences but that was like E10. we get on a lot better now

You should know I don't think any less of you LOL if I didn't like / trust you I wouldn't have added you on the PSN. If this is just about the Simpsons thread it really wasn't meant as shade I just forgot you the first time and tried to think of another major character :unsure:

oh hello Spenton

It's not directly about the Simpsons thread, I know you were just saying everything in a joke-y manner, I just thought it kinda brought up and underlying point which I feel would be better to be adressed rather than ignored... if that makes sense...? :laugh:

Thank you though, and I need to come on GTA more :laugh:

[arista]

There's been a lot of talk about how all the "weaves" are vile people or w/e and I've seen lots of discussions saying bad things about people, but I've never actually had someone take the time to message me and address a problem or issue they have with me.

Ever since the unbannings I've been doing my best to rebuild bridges and try and get along with people again, and I've tried to avoid any sort of dramas that could happen involving me, but I feel like there is still lots of people who are not being upfront or honest and idk, I just want people to be honest with me and settle it out tbh so it can all be done and dusted. I guess the whole being labelled a "bully" thing just doesn't feel good when I've tried hard to restore things back to normal, and I don't like the feeling that I'm being secretly judged because of who I'm friends with :worry:


No Problems
Keep Up the Good Work



Life In The Fast Lane

[Cal.]

I have quite a big problem and I think you're very insecure and jealous of me.

[arista]

perched for my "stop hating on LT thread"


No You need Spanking

[Crimson Dynamo]

No You need Spanking

One thrashing a month from Livia is more than enough

[T*]

Tbh

[3]

[Headie]

I have quite a big problem and I think you're very insecure and jealous of me.

It's not my fault I'm a better Fleur stan than you
http://i.imgur.com/38hyxpC.gif

[Liam-]

Thank you for being honest and keeping it 100 with me.

I understand the latter half of your post, but personally I feel I shouldn't be judged because of who I talk to/get along with because I try and get along with everyone :laugh: Is it just certain individuals or the "group" as a whole? Because there genuinely are some funny, friendly people who I have never seen do anything directly malicious or rule-breaking.

I would hope the mods would not lock this thread as this is a genuine question and I think it's better to beef out the issues rather than ignore them.

Yeah in a perfect world you wouldn't be, but as the saying goes, if you lay with dogs you're gonna catch fleas :laugh:
As for what i don't like, it's the majority of the people's attitudes towards other members, feeling the need to be so awful and spiteful towards people they don't know just to get a laugh, i know it's not all of you because like i said, i happen to like you, but if you openly associate with said people who do those things, it will obviously give the wrong impression of you, whether you think that's right or wrong.

And whenever we do 'beef it out' it causes havoc on here with certain people coming on and derailing discussions that could be had maturely and rationally :joker:

[Cal.]

It's not my fault I'm a better Fleur stan than you
http://i.imgur.com/38hyxpC.gif

http://i.imgur.com/D3fH0Lh.gif

[Drew.]

I've kinda noticed you've toned down with the sassy talk loads since you've returned and haven't caused any drama which is a good thing but before your ban you were on the verge of becoming ridiculously annoying with it all. Idk, it's just acting one way one minute and than being someone else another minute its kinda hard to get involved with someone that acts different all the time. I've got no complaints about you since your ban though.

[T*]

You are a lovely person btw, just be careful who you hang out with and I appreciate how you've been a bit calmer and kept the 'sassiness' down, you are a very nice member :hug:

[arista]

http://i.imgur.com/D3fH0Lh.gif
Happy Days Live Feed

[arista]

You are a lovely person btw, just be careful who you hang out with and I appreciate how you've been a bit calmer and kept the 'sassiness' down, you are a very nice member :hug:


Hang out with?


The Gangs Of TIBB

Utter Bollocks


Me
I do not need a Gang

[Headie]

Yeah in a perfect world you wouldn't be, but as the saying goes, if you lay with dogs you're gonna catch fleas :laugh:
As for what i don't like, it's the majority of the people's attitudes towards other members, feeling the need to be so awful and spiteful towards people they don't know just to get a laugh, i know it's not all of you because like i said, i happen to like you, but if you openly associate with said people who do those things, it will obviously give the wrong impression of you, whether you think that's right or wrong.

And whenever we do 'beef it out' it causes havoc on here with certain people coming on and derailing discussions that could be had maturely and rationally :joker:

I totally understand what you're saying, but I can honestly say there are about 2 or 3 people who have those views and say nasty things to provoke people, and everyone else is actually really friendly and kind if you get to know them. We can't really stop those 2 or 3 people from having their views... if that makes sense...

[T*]

Hang out with?


The Gangs Of TIBB

Utter Bollocks


Me
I do not need a Gang

because you are a strong independent arista that dont need no gang :love:

[Vanessa]

There's been a lot of talk about how all the "weaves" are vile people or w/e and I've seen lots of discussions saying bad things about people, but I've never actually had someone take the time to message me and address a problem or issue they have with me.

Ever since the unbannings I've been doing my best to rebuild bridges and try and get along with people again, and I've tried to avoid any sort of dramas that could happen involving me, but I feel like there is still lots of people who are not being upfront or honest and idk, I just want people to be honest with me and settle it out tbh so it can all be done and dusted. I guess the whole being labelled a "bully" thing just doesn't feel good when I've tried hard to restore things back to normal, and I don't like the feeling that I'm being secretly judged because of who I'm friends with :worry:

No, i think you're lovely. :hug:

[Headie]

I've kinda noticed you've toned down with the sassy talk loads since you've returned and haven't caused any drama which is a good thing but before your ban you were on the verge of becoming ridiculously annoying with it all. Idk, it's just acting one way one minute and than being someone else another minute its kinda hard to get involved with someone that acts different all the time. I've got no complaints about you since your ban though.

You are a lovely person btw, just be careful who you hang out with and I appreciate how you've been a bit calmer and kept the 'sassiness' down, you are a very nice member :hug:

Thank you for being so honest, I know exactly what you mean about the 'sassiness' stuff and yeah I've tried to tone it down considerably since being unbanned. Obviously I'm not going to change who I am just to fit in but I definitely am not just "all about dramz and shade xoxo" anymore. However I also don't want to just not acknowledge the people who I've spoke to and have been friendly with ever since joining this forum, just because they are seen as bad people and the minority of them have views which I don't share

[Ross.]

Hayden you are a great poster and contribute a lot to this forum. If a few people can't take the time to get to know you because of the actions of a few of your friends then it's their loss

This, although we rarely speak anymore I still think you're a great person and contribute a lot to this forum, Hayden :hug:

[Headie]

No, i think you're lovely. :hug:

Thank you Vanessa :hug: My fellow Perez stan :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

is the elephant in the room.............................................. .................................................. ............marsh and his hideous bullying ways??

:suspect:

[Liam-]

I totally understand what you're saying, but I can honestly say there are about 2 or 3 people who have those views and say nasty things to provoke people, and everyone else is actually really friendly and kind if you get to know them. We can't really stop those 2 or 3 people from having their views... if that makes sense...

Yeah obviously you can't stop them, but to then make excuses for them and pass it off as 'slaying' 'weave snatching' or 'spilling the tea' - which again, i know not all of you do - is imo, just as bad as the act itself, it not only justifies what they do and say, but it gives them an audience to play to.

[Headie]

This, although we rarely speak anymore I still think you're a great person and contribute a lot to this forum, Hayden :hug:

Thank you :love: I wish we spoke more than we do, hopefully when we have another diva to stan in BB16 we can bond more again :laugh:

[Vanessa]

Thank you Vanessa :hug: My fellow Perez stan :laugh:

I'm following his blog on twitter. It's amazing! :amazed:

[Daniel.]

In before the lock.

You personally? no, the people you associate with? Yes

You don't even know them Liam. The hypocrisy is shocking here, you always used to bitchy heavily when we were friends

[3]

Why do you lick ass in Plug then?

Hayden you are a great poster and contribute a lot to this forum. If a few people can't take the time to get to know you because of the actions of a few of your friends then it's their loss

I agree with this

[Black Dagger]

Absolutely not. But then I never had a personal reason to hate any of the weaves. I don't really hate anybody on the forum anymore. I used to hate on most on here. But now y'all fab apart from drew, what a knobhead

[Vanessa]

I never hold grudges. I think life is too short for that. At the moment the athmosphere is lovely in here. Of course there will always be arguments and falling outs. It's impossible to get on with everyone. :hugesmile:

[Samm]

I only have a go at people when they attack me not bullying and I find it really weird how people can dislike someone from who they like/talk too

[Headie]

Yeah obviously you can't stop them, but to then make excuses for them and pass it off as 'slaying' 'weave snatching' or 'spilling the tea' - which again, i know not all of you do - is imo, just as bad as the act itself, it not only justifies what they do and say, but it gives them an audience to play to.

Mhmm, I know and as you've said most of us don't egg them on, but even without people laughing/encouraging them, there's nothing stopping them from still doing what they do and then the majority of us being slandered or looked down upon for something we can't change

Like, if one of your friends got sent to jail, you wouldn't want to be known as a criminal or w/e but you'd still want to talk to your friend because it's almost impossible just to forget everything good they've done and been nice to you

[Jessica.]

I don't like you.

Just answering the question, not trying to cause trouble.

1. Because I always just peoples character on how they let others treat them and how they let their friends influence them.

2. Because you have shown clear dislike to me in the past.

3. Because I don't know you at all.

[T*]

Why do you lick ass in Plug then?


Okay so having a normal conversation is 'ass licking' :umm2:
honestly you're so petty
i'm not doing this here

[Vicky.]

Nope. Its obvious from the multi abuse that the main instigators of it all were 2 people, who continue to try and cause trouble even now, which is funny because the excuse used by one of them was that they were causing trouble as they were leaving the forum anyway, yet he still posts nearly everyday :hehe:

[Vanessa]

Nope. Its obvious from the multi abuse that the main instigators of it all were 2 people, who continue to try and cause trouble even now, which is funny because the excuse used by one of them was that they were causing trouble as they were leaving the forum anyway, yet he still posts nearly everyday :hehe:

That's true.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I don't like you.

Because I don't know you at all.

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

do i lick ass in plug

[Suze]

I think you are lovely and very likeable, Hayden :hug: who you choose to associate with makes no odds whatsoever :)

[Headie]

I don't like you.

Just answering the question, not trying to cause trouble.

1. Because I always just peoples character on how they let others treat them and how they let their friends influence them.

2. Because you have shown clear dislike to me in the past.

3. Because I don't know you at all.


Thanks for being honest Jessica

I understand point 3 but I don't entirely agree with 1 or 2. 1 I can partly understand but I'm not going to stop talking to people because they are disliked, if that makes sense...

2 is mainly because you've shown dislike to me in the past too, which I put down to being associated with "the weaves", ironically which is what this thread is about :laugh:

[T*]

do i lick ass in plug

well according to daniel if you have a normal conversation like you're supposed to do, yes.

[Daniel.]

do i lick ass in plug

No hun

[Headie]

Nope. Its obvious from the multi abuse that the main instigators of it all were 2 people

This is the point I am trying to make tbh. Thank you for being honest Vicky, I appreciate it.

[Daniel.]

Tom you don't just have a normal conversation, you say how you miss them and such then act two faced on here

[Headie]

Absolutely not. But then I never had a personal reason to hate any of the weaves. I don't really hate anybody on the forum anymore. I used to hate on most on here. But now y'all fab apart from drew, what a knobhead

I think you are lovely and very likeable, Hayden :hug: who you choose to associate with makes no odds whatsoever :)

:love: I'm glad you don't have a problem with me because I get on well with you both :)

[Liam-]

Mhmm, I know and as you've said most of us don't egg them on, but even without people laughing/encouraging them, there's nothing stopping them from still doing what they do and then the majority of us being slandered or looked down upon for something we can't change

Like, if one of your friends got sent to jail, you wouldn't want to be known as a criminal or w/e but you'd still want to talk to your friend because it's almost impossible just to forget everything good they've done and been nice to you

Meh, we're obviously never going to agree on some points tbh :joker:

But personally, if i see my 'friends' being horrible to other people, or allowing other people to be horrible about people i like, i cut ties with them.. like i have done on here recently, but that's just my point of view.

[Headie]

Can we not make this into another big drama please, it was going so well *sigh*

[Daniel.]

Meh, we're obviously never going to agree on some points tbh :joker:

But personally, if i see my 'friends' being horrible to other people, or allowing other people to be horrible about people i like, i cut ties with them.. like i have done on here recently, but that's just my point of view.

I'm sure this is about me

[Vicky.]

Can we not make this into another big drama please, it was going so well *sigh*

This tbh...

[Liam-]

Can we not make this into another big drama please, it was going so well *sigh*

This is what certain people do once they get that badge and that's what gives you all a bad name tbh

[Braden]

You know I have nothing but :love: for you

[Cal.]

i love tibb

[Ninastar]

Like others said its not so much you it's the people you hang around with. Which I guess isn't exaxtly fair, but EVERYONE judges other people. I wouldn't trust you but you're a lot better than most on here tbh

[Headie]

You know I have nothing but :love: for you

Thank you Braden, you are one of my favourite posters on here, I'm so glad you don't feel any differently towards me <3

[Headie]

Like others said its not so much you it's the people you hang around with. Which I guess isn't exaxtly fair, but EVERYONE judges other people. I wouldn't trust you but you're a lot better than most on here tbh

Thank you, I totally get what you mean. Like I said earlier, even tho 1 or 2 people do stuff that I wouldn't personally do, I can't just forget about all the lovely and genuine conversations we had in the past, if that makes sense..

[Ninastar]

I get you. I think it's brave of you to make this thread. Well done, I don't think I could have done, lol.

[LukeB]

I see you as Hayden and only Hayden because I believe all of us members are different from others. like people are not trying to be as another member.

[Black Dagger]

Imagine needing to get a dig in about people going on a #lads holiday.

[Headie]

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140802222130/glee/images/c/cd/Jocasta_crickets.gif

[Jay.]

When I say weaves, I mean certain people. But I don't mean you Hayden. Thought that was obvious! <3

[Firewire]

no you're trash

[Firewire]

jk you're great

[Macie Lightfoot]

I don't rly know what this is about because I'm not aware of any of the social and political stuff on this forum but I don't have a problem with you :3

[Niamh.]

I suppose it's slightly different to just people not liking you because of who you're friends with. It's because what your friends did was invade people's privacy and real life on top of all the nasty comments. Even the fact that you and other people in that group may have known about it is bad in itself

Having said that I do like you Hayden and have never had any issues with you personally