Will Big Brother UK itself get TIME BOMBED? (get axed)

[Calderyon]

Due to recent events/twists and rumors that the series is possible being shortened. And the fact that there is probably more to come.

Do you think this will eventually lead to civilian BB (or even BB UK altogether) being cancelled/put to a hiatus in the near future? (for example after this series)

Or do you think it will just continue?

[samanthacurtis]

I can't see it going on much longer tbh

[Richkingretro]

Showbizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!

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[Calderyon]

If they continue the way they do, it´s getting closer and closer to it by the minute.

[Glenn.]

It's contracted til 2018 so unless they want to pay a hefty fine then I doubt it. I think it's plausible that it won't be contracted after 2018.

[Jamesy]

I think they will certainly give it a go again in 2016. If BB17 also flops then they will probably bite the bullet and axe it, even if it means getting a hefty fine from the contract being cancelled early. Although that wholly depends on what the contact does and does not allow.

If not then at this very moment I would be extremely surprised if civilian Big Brother makes it beyond 2018. But who knows what will happen between now and then, we would be up to BB19 by then, the show may redeem itself by then and be back to performing how Channel 5 want it to.

CBB on the other hand looks set to be safe for the foreseeable future. It performs very well and has never been affected so far.

It's hard to say at the moment what will happen. But I really think there needs to be a serious shake up with Endemol's production for Big Brother. Clearly the people currently in charge don't have a clue what they're doing. The show is reeking of desperation now and for the show to work I really think it needs to be a simpler show, with little twists, normal noms, a varied cast, the launch advertised intensely (beyond a few adverts on MTV and C5) up to a week before the show, and also launch in June after Eurovision and BGT.

[Jamesy]

It's annoying because I was really enjoying this series up until the twist was revealed.

I don't know what Big Brother or Channel 5 were expecting launching in May, clashing with BGT and Eurovision, and not advertising the show anywhere. This series was doomed right from there before we even got to the series starting.

[T*]

It's contracted til 2018 so unless they want to pay a hefty fine then I doubt it. I think it's plausible that it won't be contracted after 2018.

what would you rather pay?-

a 'hefty' fine
tons of money on the house, studios, cars, EVERYTHING, and then it going to waste

[Glenn.]

what would you rather pay?-

a 'hefty' fine
tons of money on the house, studios, cars, EVERYTHING, and then it going to waste


That hefty fine will be be what they are contracted to pay for the show rights so there won't be any difference either way.

[y.winter]

CBB is here to stay however

[Amy Jade]

I can see civilian BB getting axed but not Celeb, it's C5's biggest show

[crazycolaist]

I dont understand? What fine would they get if Endemol agrees to close the contract early? Atleast for BB anyway, CBB is growing

[Jason.]

I think it's just going through a crisis.

If BB17, does as bad as Timebomb, then I can't see it coming back for 2017 or 2018.

However, if CBB continues to do well, then I can see them axing Big Brother, and just having two CBB's a year.

One in January, and one in July, replacing civilian.

It's funny how we all thought Power Trip ratings were bad, but Power Trip did amazing in ratings compared to Timebomb.

However, there's still about 7 weeks left of this series, so maybe and hopefully the ratings pick up.

[Calderyon]

I have asked this once, but: Does anyone know, do they have an obligation to produce both civilian BB and Celebrity BB or do they only have to do either one and optionally end the other one?

Meaning do they have some other kind of an added contractual requirement to produce BB?
Other than the obvious and the primary one: That BB has to continue to be produced until the end of 2018.

[Johnnyuk123]

My thoughts on both CBB and BB.

CBB works right now because we already have some idea of the housemates with them being celebrities already. So BB meddling with CBB makes it funny and it only lasts a very short time in comparison to Civilian BB so us the viewers can take their meddling knowing it ends soon. So CBB works because it is a short show and we are already familiar with those celebrities.

Civilian BB on the other hand is a slow burner and the production team must take the blame here for trying to rush things in the name of entertainment with twist after twist relentlessly over a 10 week show.
It doesn't work because it's a much longer show. Having so many twists Is overkill on Civilian BB, we don't get a chance to warm to any of the housemates at all because the production team are more interested in Emma saying....BB will never be the same again ,rock the house tonight blah blah blah twist twist twist.lol It turns people off.

The production team won't allow Civilian BB to breathe. If they would only not meddle for 1 week and give the viewers a chance to get to know the housemates i am sure people would start watching again instead of watching old BB re runs like myself and others on here who are completely pissed off with the production teams constant meddling.

[Pete.]

I doubt it

[waterhog]

i live for bb and cbb - if it ends - so will my poetry.

[Jamie89]

There are so many problems with the show it's hard to see it recovering fully. The thing it comes down to is money and reputation. Is it making money for ch5, and what is it doing for their reputation?

Also, I'm probably a lone voice here but I don't actually blame the production for the shows failings. It's always been a timebomb (pardon the pun) because viewers were harder to please year after year. BB led the way when it started but like anything new and exciting it inevitably had it's spotlight taken by other shows (eg. TOWIE/Geordie Shore etc) because they were newer and fresher. Now BB is trying to copy those shows because that's seemingly what viewers want. (It's no coincidence that you now have people from those shows recycled into CBB.) And we can say it's not what we want but at the end of the day, it's viewing figures and column inches they're looking at, so as much as I dislike most of the changes to the series, I can't really blame them for making them.

[Marsh.]

Depends what the contract allows. There might be a clause allowing them to stick solely to CBB if they no longer like the performance of the civilian show.

Even though the poor performance of the civilian show is their own stupid faults.

But then didn't C5 only want to purchase CBB in 2011 but Endemol would only make a deal for both?

[crazycolaist]

I have asked this once, but: Does anyone know, do they have an obligation to produce both civilian BB and Celebrity BB or do they only have to do either one and optionally end the other one?

Meaning do they have some other kind of an added contractual requirement to produce BB?
Other than the obvious and the primary one: That BB has to continue to be produced until the end of 2018.


It was 1 contract think it was 3 normal BB's and 5 CBB's
But Viacom/C5 and Endemol can renegotiate terms so doesntmatter whatever crap people are saying on this thread :L

[Vanessa]

Nothing would make me happier. BB producers blame the housemates for the low ratings. The show was doing ok until they started ti manipulate it. :nono:

[BeloTheBelt]

My thoughts on both CBB and BB.
completely pissed off with the production teams constant meddling.

Totally agree. Why must they constantly tinker.
If it aint broke DONT FIX IT !

[crazycolaist]

It just needs a break like Love Island, Unfortunately if they dont continue with CBB I could see them knock down thr BB house in years to come.

(Which would be a part of reality tv broken)

[Vanessa]

It just needs a break like Love Island, Unfortunately if they dont continue with CBB I could see them knock down thr BB house in years to come.

CBB always does brilliantly because it's a vote to save. They would be mad to axe it. I think they may axe BB and just have CBB.

[fitz2k2]

no it wont

[Daniel-X]

It won't be axed this year I think I think we'll definitely be tuning in for BB17 but after that I can't honestly say I'm too sure about Civillian BB's future on C5. If ratings continue to decline this series and next series then the show will be axed. I think if we get another high performing series like BB14 next year or ratings increase this year (I can't honestly see it happening it could but I'm not sure).

CBB will stick around for quite a few years to come even beyond 2018 probably it always does well in the ratings for C5 and it's their main flagship show they put much more thought, effort and time into it over Civillian BB.

Basically it was:

BB was better on C4 than C5 and they put more focus into that
CBB is better on C5 than C4 and they put more focus into that

[crazycolaist]

CBB always does brilliantly because it's a vote to save. They would be mad to axe it. I think they may axe BB and just have CBB.



I hope so. 8 Weeks 2 series's a year would be nice. If it grows then continue if it doesnt then 1 CBB to C4 structure and if that doesnt make it grow I would axe it.

[Marsh.]

CBB is better on C5 than C4 and they put more focus into that

My favourite CBBs are still from the C4 era.

[wendywillow]

I hope it hangs around, I don't think twists have anything to do with it, tbh they have to do stuff to keep people interested in a show that's been round this long, a return to old school bb would be the death knell

[Marsh.]

I hope it hangs around, I don't think twists have anything to do with it, tbh they have to do stuff to keep people interested in a show that's been round this long, a return to old school bb would be the death knell

The twists aren't keeping anyone interested.

[zakman440]

As many others have said, BB17 will happen. However, if they play the same tricks that they have for the past two years (Power Trip and Timebomb) then it won't return the following year. Unless they ease up on the twists, increase Live Feed and promote the hell out of it, I don't see it rating very well at all. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere (not on here) that there were plans for Live Feed on MTV this series after the CBB repeats rated well?

[Shaun]

My favourite CBBs are still from the C4 era.

Yeah some of the C5 ones have been great but let's not get carried away. We've still had CBB8, 9, 11 and 13 :umm2: all gross series.

[billy123]

The whole show caters for the terminally stupid these days. I can understand people defending it out of loyalty but there are people on here that genuinely think its great bless them.
Im so sick of what it has turned into since its move to C5 i feel like i lose IQ points every time i watch it.

[ruiphillips]

With last years diabolic series and winner, I won't shed a tear if it got axed. It's is a former shell of itself.

[Daniel-X]

Yeah some of the C5 ones have been great but let's not get carried away. We've still had CBB8, 9, 11 and 13 :umm2: all gross series.

Na all this series you said are actually good CBB series apart from 11 I agree with you in that that was utter crap!

[billy123]

I will probably never stop watching but seeing it get the axe would be a relief in a way. Like seeing an old friend put out of its misery.

[Blog Rider]

The only way it will work is live feed all of the time, Normal housemates and no meddling.

[alex_front2]

Lack of promotion, and choosing samey hms didn't help. If you pick a Harriet you need a Caroline bb13

[*mazedsalv**]

I don't know, so far the Friday twist has currently worked out as Friday, Saturday and last night were all up on the same weekend the week before.

[Blog Rider]

It won't be axed as long they hang on to the ratings they have got now :)

[Jason.]

It won't be axed as long they hang on to the ratings they have got now :)

What, 700k?

[Will.]

What, 700k?

no 1.1-1.2 M

[Jason.]

no 1.1-1.2 M

That's crap, TBH.

Anything below an average of 1.4/1.5m, for BB is bad.

[crazycolaist]

Viacom need to advertise more on other TV Channels other than their own. Never saw a single billboard in London or on any bus's early may start when everyone is used to June
BB producers shot themselves in the foot. Not all to blame though.

[Will.]

That's crap, TBH.

Anything below an average of 1.4/1.5m, for BB is bad.

not really, its getting a share of 7%, BB rarely gets higher than that, its not CBB

[Jason.]

Viacom need to advertise more on other TV Channels other than their own. Never saw a single billboard in London or on any bus's early may start when everyone is used to June
BB producers shot themselves in the foot. Not all to blame though.

I agree.
The promo was absolutely naff this year.

No countdowns.

Not many adverts on TV. I remember for CBB15, I saw the Twisted Fairytale advert like 4 times a day from 22nd December - 5th January. I actually got annoyed from seeing the advert, it was on that much.

No billboards. This was a mistake, IMO. One because they used for them CBB15, and it worked really well, and two because it was a May launch for the first time in almost ten years, so they needed to make people aware of when it was starting, as many would've thought in June.

I also think them releasing everything at once this year didn't help either. Like the eye, theme, and advert all being released in one go. As well as the House Pictures.

They should do it bit by bit, to build up excitement.
Two weeks before the launch wasn't enough time.

[Jason.]

not really, its getting a share of 7%, BB rarely gets higher than that, its not CBB

TV viewership is down this year, that's why the share is high.

[Dash Darington]

CBB is currently circling the bowl in terms of content. It's probably a matter of time before ratings follow suit. It's gotten so trashy that they can't get any celebrities anymore, and once it goes that way it can't be reversed.

[Jason.]

CBB is currently circling the bowl in terms of content. It's probably a matter of time before ratings follow suit. It's gotten so trashy that they can't get any celebrities anymore, and once it goes that way it can't be reversed.

I disagree.
I think the CBB15 cast was fantastic, and felt like a Channel 4 series, IMO. As did the CBB13 cast.

The early Channel 5 CBB's were trashy.
However, the summer CBB is really trashy.

I think they should scrap summer CBB. With 2 CBB's a year, it makes the format stale.

That's one of the reasons why I'm A Celebrity still gets good ratings, because it's on once a year, so the audience don't get bored of it quickly, and get excited for November, when the time comes.

With 2 CBB's a year, it is easy to get bored. Especially now CBB is 4 weeks.