Out of order !!

[chuff me dizzy]

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-29-harry-amelia-and-marc-get-angry

The cretin calls Marc an "Irish ****** " Racist ? in my eyes is it

[Jack_]

Irish isn't a race, so it would be xenophobic

[Niamh.]

Irish isn't a race, so it would be xenophobic

It would be xenophobic though imo why bring where he comes from into it? Would it be ok to call Sam an Asian ****? it's the same difference

[LukeB]

Harry is an ignorant disgusting cretin :bored:

[Liam-]

Is she actually lying though?

[LukeB]

Is she actually lying though?

Yes, she's really disgusting and ignorant

[Liam-]

Well she's not lying, he is Irish and he is a ****, so :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

It would be xenophobic though imo why bring where he comes from into it? Would it be ok to call Sam an Asian ****? it's the same difference

Exactly

[Niamh.]

Is she actually lying though?

It's not the point Liam, why use his nationality infront of the insulting word? It's like calling someone a black **** or an Indian ****, neither of those would be acceptable either. I don't like Marc or Harry but that's offensive

[Jack_]

It would be xenophobic though imo why bring where he comes from into it? Would it be ok to call Sam an Asian ****? it's the same difference

No I agree and always think it's out of order and a bit stupid when people prefix an insult with someone's nationality, was just pointing out that it's not racist that's all :p

[LukeB]

Well she's not lying, he is Irish and he is a ****, so :laugh:

it's disgusting to call them a irish whatever tho :umm2:

[Niamh.]

No I agree and always think it's out of order and a bit stupid when people prefix an insult with someone's nationality, was just pointing out that it's not racist that's all :p

Fair enough :love:

[LukeB]

It's not the point Liam, why use his nationality infront of the insulting word? It's like calling someone a black **** or an Indian ****, neither of those would be acceptable either. I don't like Marc or Harry but that's offensive

:clap1:

[LukeB]

no one should ever use someone's nationality for an insult. That angers me the most, It's plain rude and Ignorant.

[Nancy.]

She's a moron who really should think before opening her gob.

and did anyone notice how she was getting irate with Nick when he put her in her place for contradicting herself? She didn't like that at all. Cretin.

[Liam-]

It's not the point Liam, why use his nationality infront of the insulting word? It's like calling someone a black **** or an Indian ****, neither of those would be acceptable either. I don't like Marc or Harry but that's offensive

I get that using someone's nationality as an insult is unacceptable, but in these situations, I personally don't see how calling him Irish is the offensive part, when the offensive (and rightly deserved part) was the '****'

I mean, i wouldn't get offended if someone called me a Welsh wanker, so maybe I'm just seeing it from my own personal prospective idk

[Niamh.]

I get that using someone's nationality as an insult is unacceptable, but in these situations, I personally don't see how calling him Irish is the offensive part, when the offensive (and rightly deserved part) was the '****'

I mean, i wouldn't get offended if someone called me a Welsh wanker, so maybe I'm just seeing it from my own personal prospective

Why not just call him a **** then? What was the purpose of prefixing it with where he comes from if not to try and use that as an insult against him, it makes the sentence sound like she's using that as an extra insult. If someone called a person a black **** on BB, would that be offensive do you think, even if he was actually a black person?

[LukeB]

Why not just call him a **** then? What was the purpose of prefixing it with where he comes from if not to try and use that as an insult against him, it makes the sentence sound like she's using that as an extra insult. If someone called a person a black **** on BB, would that be offensive do you think, even if he was actually a black person?

:worship:

:fist: why did you have to win week 1 nominations thing you have made some great post this week

[Niamh.]

:worship:

:fist: why did you have to win week 1 nominations thing you have made some great post this week

awww :love:

[sampvt]

is she janet street porters daughter. they are so alike. both disgusting.

[Liam-]

Why not just call him a **** then? What was the purpose of prefixing it with where he comes from if not to try and use that as an insult against him, it makes the sentence sound like she's using that as an extra insult. If someone called a person a black **** on BB, would that be offensive do you think, even if he was actually a black person?

Don't come for me :sad:

[chuff me dizzy]

It's not the point Liam, why use his nationality infront of the insulting word? It's like calling someone a black **** or an Indian ****, neither of those would be acceptable either. I don't like Marc or Harry but that's offensive

Everyone would be furious on here if she had said "Black **** ,can you imagine ? double standards at its very worst

[Niamh.]

Don't come for me :sad:

:laugh:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

why do people on here always use the 'BUT IF THEY SAID THAT ABOUT A BLACK PERSON' thing on here like really

[chuff me dizzy]

why do people on here always use the 'BUT IF THEY SAID THAT ABOUT A BLACK PERSON' thing on here like really

Because its true

[Niamh.]

why do people on here always use the 'BUT IF THEY SAID THAT ABOUT A BLACK PERSON' thing on here like really

Because it's relevant to the discussion I was having. Liam said "but he is Irish and he is a ****" and I said "so if he was black and he was a **** it would be ok to call him a black ****?" You don't see how that's an ok comparison?

[Liam-]

I personally find that when using someone's nationally in an insult like Harry used, i think it only becomes used as an offensive thing when the offensive word used, directly correlates to the person's nationality, if that makes sense?

Like, 'Irish ****' or like i said 'Welsh wanker' to me, that doesn't use a person's nationality as the prevalent insult, whereas if someone said 'Irish *something about potatoes*' or 'Welsh *something about sheep shagging*' that would be directly using someone's nationality as an insult to them.

It's still silly to place a person's nationality in that sort of context though, but I can't back that as being directly xenophobic.

Idek if any of that made sense but hohum.

[chuff me dizzy]

I personally find that when using someone's nationally in an insult like Harry used, i think it only becomes used as an offensive thing when the offensive word used, directly correlates to the person's nationality, if that makes sense?

Like, 'Irish ****' or like i said 'Welsh wanker' to me, that doesn't use a person's nationality as the prevalent insult, whereas if someone said 'Irish *something about potatoes*' or 'Welsh *something about sheep shagging*' that would be directly using someone's nationality as an insult to them.

Idek if any of that made sense but hohum.

Its more about double standards, if she had called him a black **** she would have been removed

[Niamh.]

Well, I remember being called a stupid ****ing Irish bitch by someone when i lived in London years ago and I can tell you the part that offended me so much was that the word Irish had been thrown in amongst the insults. I really felt like the person who said it was trying to belittle me because not only was I stupid and a bitch but I was Irish which was less then them, that's what it felt like to me

[Josy]

I personally find that when using someone's nationally in an insult like Harry used, i think it only becomes used as an offensive thing when the offensive word used, directly correlates to the person's nationality, if that makes sense?

Like, 'Irish ****' or like i said 'Welsh wanker' to me, that doesn't use a person's nationality as the prevalent insult, whereas if someone said 'Irish *something about potatoes*' or 'Welsh *something about sheep shagging*' that would be directly using someone's nationality as an insult to them.

It's still silly to place a person's nationality in that sort of context though, but I can't back that as being directly xenophobic.

Idek if any of that made sense but hohum.

It was an xenophobic comment regardless of any excuses anyone comes up with.

[Liam-]

It was an xenophobic comment regardless of any excuses anyone comes up with.

I wasn't making excuses, I was stating my opinion.. the same as I'd do so even if it was Marc who had said something similar, before anyone feels like throwing that little cliche at me.

[ebandit]

meh!........while the phrase is not one to be encouraged it's hardly disgusting...........

Mark L

[Kazanne]

The reaction of some on here would have been SO different if Marc had said that , it's pathetic , as is she.

[Liam-]

The reaction of some on here would have been SO different if Marc had said that , it's pathetic , as is she.

Not from me it wouldn't.

[chuff me dizzy]

meh!........while the phrase is not one to be encouraged it's hardly disgusting...........

Mark L

And if she had said black **** ?

[Crimson Dynamo]

And if she had said black **** ?

well the comparison would need to be a country


Nigerian ****
Malawian ****
Jamaican ****

[Dollface]

Didn't Marc call Harry a Knacker yesterday? Apparently that is a derogatory term for a traveller, which is also "out of order"

[Dollface]

And if she had said black **** ?

Harry didn't bring up the colour of Marc's skin

[Niamh.]

well the comparison would need to be a country


Nigerian ****
Malawian ****
Jamaican ****

and all I have no doubt she'd be warned if she said any of those things to a HM of one of those nationalities

[chuff me dizzy]

Didn't Marc call Harry a Knacker yesterday? Apparently that is a derogatory term for a traveller, which is also "out of order"

What a load of utter rubbish ,I have a gypsy brother in law

[ebandit]

And if she had said black **** ?

..........and if she stabbed mark through his heart i would say...........

.........hang her high..............

Mark L

[chuff me dizzy]

Harry didn't bring up the colour of Marc's skin

Ok your twisting words, so we will try Pakistani ****

[Niamh.]

Didn't Marc call Harry a Knacker yesterday? Apparently that is a derogatory term for a traveller, which is also "out of order"

Yes it is, that doesn't take away from the fact that what she said is also offensive, it's offensive to Jade as well as she's an Irish person and I find it offensive as an Irish person. I don't give a s**t who she said it to, i don't even like Marc, I find it offensive as an Irish viewer

[ebandit]

What a load of utter rubbish ,I have a gypsy brother in law

and i'm an english layabout..............big deal!

Mark L

[chuff me dizzy]

Urban meaning of a knacker .......... knacker
Incestuous, boxing, sovereign ring wearing, tracksuited shaven headed scumbags. Girls wear bellytops (Even if they're 15 stone), guys are small, jewelry and violence are rampant. Enjoy having children with sisters, looking at you with squinty eyes and scaring people. In many places refers to SCUMBAGS in general, and good travellers are not covered by the word - depening where you're from.
"C'mear yow, give oos a fooking Yaro boss or I'll fooking box ya" said the knacker.


And by God, Marcs spot on with that one !!!!!!!

[chuff me dizzy]

and i'm an english layabout..............big deal!

Mark L

YOU are calling your self that sunbeam ,no one else is, never mind a scummy little prossie in a tv show

[Dollface]

YOU are calling your self that sunbeam ,no one else is, never mind a scummy little prossie in a tv show

Harry isn't a "prossie" ... Helen was though :)

Funny how you defended Helen but call Harry a prossie/skank/etc.

[ebandit]

YOU are calling your self that sunbeam ,no one else is, never mind a scummy little prossie in a tv show

.........sunbeam........i like that..........maybe the sun really does shine out

of there............

Mark L

[chuff me dizzy]

Harry isn't a "prossie" ... Helen was though :)

Funny how you defended Helen but call Harry a prossie/skank/etc.

Helen had more class in her little finger than Mucky Box

[Niamh.]

Helen and Class in the same sentence :fan:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Because it's relevant to the discussion I was having. Liam said "but he is Irish and he is a ****" and I said "so if he was black and he was a **** it would be ok to call him a black ****?" You don't see how that's an ok comparison?

yeah i get where you are coming from but when people say things like 'why is that allowed and not this' it just makes it seem like they are annoyed at not being able to say black **** lmao

[Dollface]

Helen had more class in her little finger than Mucky Box

Ok, I laughed

[chuff me dizzy]

Helen and Class in the same sentence :fan:

Some people will never get over the fact she won last years show:wink: what a night that was !!! :cheer2: ...but enough about last years WINNER ,this thread is about Skankface

[MB.]

yeah i get where you are coming from but when people say things like 'why is that allowed and not this' it just makes it seem like they are annoyed at not being able to say black **** lmao

green ****

[Niamh.]

yeah i get where you are coming from but when people say things like 'why is that allowed and not this' it just makes it seem like they are annoyed at not being able to say black **** lmao

haha well that wasn't my intention, I was saying it from an Irish persons point of view and having actually been called a stupid ****ing Irish bitch, it is hurtful and it does feel like being Irish was been used as another insult

[Kazanne]

Didn't Marc call Harry a Knacker yesterday? Apparently that is a derogatory term for a traveller, which is also "out of order"

Surely knacker is a ball bag,which she is:hehe:

[Beetlejuice]

The one person who won't put up with Marc's behaviour and look at them all trying to catch her out on anything she says whilst taking great joy in every despicable thing Marc does. Typical.

[LukeB]

It was an xenophobic comment regardless of any excuses anyone comes up with.

:clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

Surely knacker is a ball bag,which she is:hehe:

Sums her up to a t .....Ive posted the meaning of it on previous page and it couldn't be closer to the truth

[Beetlejuice]

It was an xenophobic comment regardless of any excuses anyone comes up with.

It wasn't. She has said nothing about the Irish nor implied she doesn't like the Irish. Just that she thinks he is disgusting. Which he is. But carry on defending the bully of the house and attacking the girl who won't put up with his behaviour and defends herself against his attacks.

And I'll be sure to remind you all every time you ever post threads on sexism.

[chuff me dizzy]

The one person who won't put up with Marc's behaviour and look at them all trying to catch her out on anything she says whilst taking great joy in every despicable thing Marc does. Typical.

This is a forum,its what these places are for

[chuff me dizzy]

It wasn't. She has said nothing about the Irish nor implied she doesn't like the Irish. Just that she thinks he is disgusting. Which he is. But carry on defending the bully of the house and attacking the girl who won't put up with his behaviour and defends herself against his attacks.

And I'll be sure to remind you all every time you ever post threads on sexism.

WRONG,She called him an IRISH ****

[Beetlejuice]

This is a forum,its what these places are for

Getting things hopelessly wrong? It does seem to be the case here, I'm afraid.

[chuff me dizzy]

Getting things hopelessly wrong? It does seem to be the case here, I'm afraid.

No you clearly have not bothered watching the video, just rushed in all guns ablating,i suggest you go back to page 1 and watch the video, theres a good fella :pat:

[Beetlejuice]

WRONG,She called him an IRISH ****

I repeat... She has said nothing about the Irish. She was talking about Marc. One person. Not a Nation of people. One person.

Marc on the other hand... Well let's not get into what he's said and the extent to which people here defend him and are now gunning for Harry for having the audacity to stick up for herself against the obnoxious Producer's Pet.

[Crimson Dynamo]

haha well that wasn't my intention, I was saying it from an Irish persons point of view and having actually been called a stupid ****ing Irish bitch, it is hurtful and it does feel like being Irish was been used as another insult


was that when you criticised marsh's dissertation?

[Josy]

It wasn't. She has said nothing about the Irish nor implied she doesn't like the Irish. Just that she thinks he is disgusting. Which he is. But carry on defending the bully of the house and attacking the girl who won't put up with his behaviour and defends herself against his attacks.

And I'll be sure to remind you all every time you ever post threads on sexism.

Yes it was, she used his nationality as an insult regardless of how you try to dress it up.

I can't be bothered replying to the rest of your post tbh since it basically contains nothing at all to do with the OP and the topic of the thread.

[chuff me dizzy]

I repeat... She has said nothing about the Irish. She was talking about Marc. One person. Not a Nation of people. One person.

Marc on the other hand... Well let's not get into what he's said and the extent to which people here defend him and are now gunning for Harry for having the audacity to stick up for herself against the obnoxious Producer's Pet.

What utter rot

[Beetlejuice]

Yes it was, she used his nationality as an insult regardless of how you try to dress it up.

He is Irish and he behaves like a ****. Therefore he's an Irish ****. But you gun for the one girl who refuses to put up with his ****. Go on...

I can't be bothered replying to the rest of your post tbh since it basically contains nothing at all to do with the OP and the topic of the thread.

Give us another thread on sexism Josy. Whilst supporting one of the most sexist people to ever appear on the show, who will dump Sam like a sack of spuds, has made numerous insulting remarks towards Chloe, and who is gunning for Harry in a typically obnoxious and bullying manner.

[Amy Jade]

I can't deal with the hypocrisy from people haha

[Josy]

He is Irish and he behaves like a ****. Therefore he's an Irish ****. But you gun for the one girl who refuses to put up with his ****. Go on...



Give us another thread on sexism Josy. Whilst supporting one of the most sexist people to ever appear on the show, who will dump Sam like a sack of spuds, has made numerous insulting remarks towards Chloe, and who is gunning for Harry in a typically obnoxious and bullying manner.

You seem to be getting very upset.

I don't recall making a thread about sexism tbh maybe I did though....

However like I said above, I can't be bothered replying especially to someone that claims to have stopped watching almost three weeks ago and clearly did not watch the clip in the OP that the rest of the thread is discussing.

[chuff me dizzy]

You seem to be getting very upset.

I don't recall making a thread about sexism tbh maybe I did though....

However like I said above, I can't be bothered replying especially to someone that claims to have stopped watching almost three weeks ago and clearly did not watch the clip in the OP that the rest of the thread is discussing.

Clearly hadn't watched the clip as he/she said she hadn't mentioned IRISH, when clearly she had

[Beetlejuice]

You seem to be getting very upset.

I don't recall making a thread about sexism tbh maybe I did though....

You certainly applauded one in which Marc was being celebrated for supposedly highlighting the unfairness of him being seen as a hero and Sam as a slut if they got it on. And yet you continue to think he's fantastic whilst a girl who actally has to put up with his behaviour stands up for herself and you attack her. It's pathetic.

However like I said above, I can't be bothered replying especially to someone that claims to have stopped watching almost three weeks ago and clearly did not watch the clip in the OP that the rest of the thread is discussing.

I did watch it. Good for her

[jennyjuniper]

Harry isn't a "prossie" ... Helen was though :)

Funny how you defended Helen but call Harry a prossie/skank/etc.

Isn't the definition of a prostitute someone who earns money from the sex trade? If so then surely Harry can be described as a prostitute? Even if she doesn't have sex with her clients, bondage etc still comes under the sex trade description doesn't it?
By the way I would think that description would apply to Marc also.

[Beetlejuice]

Clearly hadn't watched the clip as he/she said she hadn't mentioned IRISH, when clearly she had

I did not say that.

I said she did not insult the IRISH. Correctly identifying one person as Irish and also being a **** is not attacking the IRISH.

[MrWong]

Urban meaning of a knacker .......... knacker
Incestuous, boxing, sovereign ring wearing, tracksuited shaven headed scumbags. Girls wear bellytops (Even if they're 15 stone), guys are small, jewelry and violence are rampant. Enjoy having children with sisters, looking at you with squinty eyes and scaring people. In many places refers to SCUMBAGS in general, and good travellers are not covered by the word - depening where you're from.
"C'mear yow, give oos a fooking Yaro boss or I'll fooking box ya" said the knacker.
And by God, Marcs spot on with that one !!!!!!!


From that description it sounds like Marc's a knacker.

It's like projection, he attacks someone for something that he is.

It's like when he calls Harry out for having a showmance for airtime when he's doing the same thing with Sam.

Or when he calls Harry out for getting naked when he does it too.

[jennyjuniper]

It wasn't. She has said nothing about the Irish nor implied she doesn't like the Irish. Just that she thinks he is disgusting. Which he is. But carry on defending the bully of the house and attacking the girl who won't put up with his behaviour and defends herself against his attacks.

And I'll be sure to remind you all every time you ever post threads on sexism.

He may be foul mouthed and insulting, but you can't call Marc a bully. It would be bullying if Harry were scared of him, but she isn't. She provokes as many arguements as he does. In fact they are as bad as each other.

[Josy]

You certainly applauded one in which Marc was being celebrated for supposedly highlighting the unfairness of him being seen as a hero and Sam as a slut if they got it on. And yet you continue to think he's fantastic whilst a girl who actally has to put up with his behaviour stands up for herself and you attack her. It's pathetic.



I did watch it. Good for her

Ok so I never made the thread then, apology accepted.

And I think Marc's a fantastic housemate, completely different from what you are insinuating.

[chuff me dizzy]

The hilarity of Marc's defenders believing Sam is the one playing him and he genuinely likes her. You couldn't make it up.

Who's said that ? please copy and paste

[Beetlejuice]

Ok so I never made the thread then, apology accepted.

No apology given. Those were your views. The women who actually have to live with him are disgusted by him and one of them refuses to back down to him. And your response? To gun for the girl.

And I think Marc's a fantastic housemate, completely different from what you are insinuating.

And you support him no matter what.

[Josy]

No apology given. Those were your views. The women who actually have to live with him are disgusted by him and one of them refuses to back down to him. And your response? To gun for the girl.



And you support him no matter what.

I disliked Harry since she entered. And no I don't support him no matter what.

Can you stop discussing other members please. Thanks.

[Amy Jade]

Isn't the definition of a prostitute someone who earns money from the sex trade? If so then surely Harry can be described as a prostitute? Even if she doesn't have sex with her clients, bondage etc still comes under the sex trade description doesn't it?
By the way I would think that description would apply to Marc also.

No prostitution is sex in exchange for money.

[Beetlejuice]

He may be foul mouthed and insulting, but you can't call Marc a bully.

He's the most obvious bully I've seen in years on the show. Making insulting remarks to people continuously is bullying. Being aggressive towards people is a form of bullying. He has been warned countless times for doing this, and despite his half hearted apologies he goes right back to doing it.


It would be bullying if Harry were scared of him, but she isn't. She provokes as many arguements as he does. In fact they are as bad as each other.

No she doesn't. The man started an argument within 5 minutes of entering the house telling a girl she was going for an STI test. He has done this every other day and the housemates essentially have to put up with that behaviour until BB actually calls him in, which they have done time and time again only for him to come straight back out an be an arsehole all over again. Much to the amusement of people here.

[Beetlejuice]

I disliked Harry since she entered. And no I don't support him no matter what.

So Harry should put up with living with a man who makes the crudest and most sexist remarks because you don't like her. Okay.

Can you stop discussing other members please. Thanks.

How can you not discuss other members when you're debating with them?

[chuff me dizzy]

He's the most obvious bully I've seen in years on the show. Making insulting remarks to people continuously is bullying. Being aggressive towards people is a form of bullying. He has been warned countless times for doing this, and despite his half hearted apologies he goes right back to doing it.




No she doesn't. The man started an argument within 5 minutes of entering the house telling a girl she was going for an STI test. He has done this every other day and the housemates essentially have to put up with that behaviour until BB actually calls him in, which they have done time and time again only for him to come straight back out an be an arsehole all over again. Much to the amusement of people here.

He ASKED Chloe ,he didn't TELL her, get it right

[Josy]

We'll see about that...



How can you not discuss other members when you're debating with them?

Debate the topic, not other members. The rule is pretty straightforward but if youre having trouble with it then pm a mod or admin about it instead of bringing it up on the threads.

[Amy Jade]

He may be foul mouthed and insulting, but you can't call Marc a bully. It would be bullying if Harry were scared of him, but she isn't. She provokes as many arguements as he does. In fact they are as bad as each other.
Wait so bullying is only bullying if the person speaks up and says they're physically frightened?

[chuff me dizzy]

https://amp.twimg.com/v/10a97837-eb01-4a0b-afd2-03d5436b6f1f

Making threats ? even Nick is sick of the skank now !!

[Vicky.]

Didn't Marc call Harry a Knacker yesterday? Apparently that is a derogatory term for a traveller, which is also "out of order"

I think that depends. Here, knacker just means...idiot :shrug:

Anyway, given the insults these hurl at EACH OTHER 9its not one sided..both have said they hate the other...) this is rather mild. However, I get why using 'Irish' as an insult is more insulting than just saying *******. If that makes sense...

[Vicky.]

(Just read a bit further and seen the actual definitions for knacker. Well...seems we are strange here :laugh: That said, cracker also means idiot here...)

[Rorkimaru]

yeah i get where you are coming from but when people say things like 'why is that allowed and not this' it just makes it seem like they are annoyed at not being able to say black **** lmao

I have no desire to be racist/xenophobic/prejudice and simply request the same in return. If you are giving someone a tirade of abuse and use their ethnicity or nationality as a part of the put down then it will be offensive. I'm Irish, I found it offensive. I didn't speak up when I saw the video earlier because people rarely take such prejudice about the Irish seriously but if you use a person's cultural identity to augment an insult you are insulting their cultural identity.

It wasn't. She has said nothing about the Irish nor implied she doesn't like the Irish. Just that she thinks he is disgusting. Which he is. But carry on defending the bully of the house and attacking the girl who won't put up with his behaviour and defends herself against his attacks.

And I'll be sure to remind you all every time you ever post threads on sexism.

This thread isn't about defending Marc. It's not even about Mark. It's about what Harry said and what Harry said is not ok.

[Nancy.]

https://amp.twimg.com/v/10a97837-eb01-4a0b-afd2-03d5436b6f1f

Making threats ? even Nick is sick of the skank now !!

She's showing her true colors good and proper now, isn't she?

Gettng angry and threatening people with bottle's because Marc's verbally beating her to a pulp. Aw, poor love.

[chuff me dizzy]

I have no desire to be racist/xenophobic/prejudice and simply request the same in return. If you are giving someone a tirade of abuse and use their ethnicity or nationality as a part of the put down then it will be offensive. I'm Irish, I found it offensive. I didn't speak up when I saw the video earlier because people rarely take such prejudice about the Irish seriously but if you use a person's cultural identity to augment an insult you are insulting their cultural identity.



This thread isn't about defending Marc. It's not even about Mark. It's about what Harry said and what Harry said is not ok.

:clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

She's showing her true colors good and proper now, isn't she?

Gettng angry and threatening people with bottle's because Marc's verbally beating her to a pulp. Aw, poor love.

Love how Nick said he wants her to leave !!! stay out of her bed and watch her combust if her camera action taken away

[bots]

i've been called a scottish **** many a time, also a ginger **** and its never bothered me. Not so long ago people were supporting the right of Ms Hopkins to say what she liked, as she was "just telling it to peoples faces". Harry is a good house mate, much better value than 80% of the other in the house. I haven't made my mind up about her yet, but I'm glad she is keeping Marc in his place

[chuff me dizzy]

i've been called a scottish **** many a time, also a ginger **** and its never bothered me. Not so long ago people were supporting the right of Ms Hopkins to say what she liked, as she was "just telling it to peoples faces". Harry is a good house mate, much better value than 80% of the other in the house. I haven't made my mind up about her yet, but I'm glad she is keeping Marc in his place

Skanky didn't say it to Marcs face, she said it behind his back

[LukeB]

I have no desire to be racist/xenophobic/prejudice and simply request the same in return. If you are giving someone a tirade of abuse and use their ethnicity or nationality as a part of the put down then it will be offensive. I'm Irish, I found it offensive. I didn't speak up when I saw the video earlier because people rarely take such prejudice about the Irish seriously but if you use a person's cultural identity to augment an insult you are insulting their cultural identity.



This thread isn't about defending Marc. It's not even about Mark. It's about what Harry said and what Harry said is not ok.

:clap1:

[alex_front2]

Chuff, and those concerned for Marc, where were you when Adjoa and blacks get abused. As a black women who gets labelled playing the race card when i highlight anti black comments here, can no longer muster up any sympathy. Meh, don't give a sh%te. Love Harry

[MrWong]

Skanky didn't say it to Marcs face, she said it behind his back

You missed the task then? Where she made her feelings very clear, knowing Mark would hear.

He then threw his toys out of the pram because he didn't like what she had to say.

[Vicky.]

Chuff, and those concerned for Marc, where were you when Adjoa and blacks get abused. As a black women who gets labelled playing the race card when i highlight anti black comments here, can no longer muster up any sympathy. Meh, don't give a sh%te. Love Harry
What did Adjoa have said to her that was xenophobic/racist? I genuinely don't know?

[Niamh.]

I have no desire to be racist/xenophobic/prejudice and simply request the same in return. If you are giving someone a tirade of abuse and use their ethnicity or nationality as a part of the put down then it will be offensive. I'm Irish, I found it offensive. I didn't speak up when I saw the video earlier because people rarely take such prejudice about the Irish seriously but if you use a person's cultural identity to augment an insult you are insulting their cultural identity.



This thread isn't about defending Marc. It's not even about Mark. It's about what Harry said and what Harry said is not ok.

Thank you! I don't like Marc, i think he's a vile sexist ****, I'm offended because I'm Irish not on Marcs behalf.

[iToby]

It would be xenophobic though imo why bring where he comes from into it? Would it be ok to call Sam an Asian ****? it's the same difference

When folk have reached the limits of their intellect, they tend to let their true sentiments into the light of day in the form of spontaneous utterances....and I still haven't seen that bit of VT. Must root it out imediately...Harry could be about to lose a fan here. Dayum.

[Kizzy]

I think it's a context thing, He is Irish that's a fact, she's not using the fact he's Irish in any derogatory sense therefore I don't see it as an issue.

[Niamh.]

When folk have reached the limits of their intellect, they tend to let their true sentiments into the light of day in the form of spontaneous utterances....and I still haven't seen that bit of VT. Must root it out imediately...Harry could be about to lose a fan here. Dayum.

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-29-harry-amelia-and-marc-get-angry

[Niamh.]

I think it's a context thing, He is Irish that's a fact, she's not using the fact he's Irish in any derogatory sense therefore I don't see it as an issue.

When you put it before an insult of course it is

[Kizzy]

Why? She wasn't suggesting the fact he's Irish is the reason she dislikes him, or anyone else from Ireland is a ****

[Niamh.]

Why? She wasn't suggesting the fact he's Irish is the reason she dislikes him, or anyone else from Ireland is a ****

Why put Irish before the insult? What relevance had it, I found it offensive

[smudgie]

Fat so and so.
Old hag so and so.

I don't like any of it to be honest, but I do thnk it is even worse when you use their nationality as a slur.

[iToby]

I get that using someone's nationality as an insult is unacceptable, but in these situations, I personally don't see how calling him Irish is the offensive part, when the offensive (and rightly deserved part) was the '****'

I mean, i wouldn't get offended if someone called me a Welsh wanker, so maybe I'm just seeing it from my own personal prospective idk


I agree with Taffy.:joker:

[iToby]

What a load of utter rubbish ,I have a gypsy brother in law

And what exactly makes that ridiculous by you having a gypsy Bro in law? It's a fact, Knacker is a derogatory description for a gypsy in Ireland...You n yours are probably more familiar with the term Pikey...Do you and or himself like / mind being called that? Not that anyone one would dare use either words to a Travellers mein unless the numbers favoured the insulter as is witnessed at national front, ukip marches

[Rorkimaru]

Why? She wasn't suggesting the fact he's Irish is the reason she dislikes him, or anyone else from Ireland is a ****

That's actually exactly what that sentence structure implies. We're talking the basics of the english language here.

[arista]

Can we have the "C"
word tonight after 10PM Viacom ,you feckers

[iToby]

Surely knacker is a ball bag,which she is:hehe:

Surely, in that context, its the contents of said bag? I fink soh.

[chuff me dizzy]

Can we have the "C"
word tonight after 10PM Viacom ,you feckers

It wasn't even shown,how annoying ?