Nikki convinces Jack that he is fave to win

[Dollface]

But if Jack is humiliated then it's not Nikki's fault. She is lying but Jack already thinks all of this. No one likes an arrogant cocky idiot do they?. It may look cruel but it's his own fault if he is shocked by those boos and looks like a fool. Nikki is not making him believe anything he doesn't think himself.

We're going to have to agree to disagree, because I really don't understand where you're coming from.

[Lostie!]

They all have ego's in there or they wouldn't be there in the first place, Nikki's ego is the biggest and I doubt she would see the funny side if the roles were reversed.

Spot on, once again. People are talking about Jack believing his own hype etc, but what about Nikki? Are people going to deny she's been up herself about her "legend" status despite TV evidence, too?

Oh wait, I get it. Nikki's arrogant comments are just "funny", right?

No I don't agree that everyone has that cruel streak, but let's say you are right there, then some are worse than others and others know when not to take it too far. And if that humourless aside is a dig at me, you are far from the truth there. I like to believe my moral compass and compasionate side makes me know when a line needs to be drawn.

Completely agree, as usual. :)

[LukeB]

Yes, Jack is just learning a lesson about hubris

Hopefully Jack doesn't get arrogant and cocky after BB, I hate people with big egos it's really annoying. Sezer's face getting evicted after thinking he is staying 100% = Priceless. I love when cocky people are shown that they are not all that.

[Liam-]

We're going to have to agree to disagree, because I really don't understand where you're coming from.

There's literally no point debating about it anymore, she'll never get blamed for anything :joker:

[Dollface]

Hopefully Jack doesn't get arrogant and cocky after BB, I hate people with big egos it's really annoying. Sezer's face getting evicted after thinking he is staying 100% = Priceless. I love when cocky people are shown that they are not all that.

NIKKI.

[LukeB]

NIKKI.

She hasn't got a big ego imo

[Dollface]

She hasn't got a big ego imo

Didn't she say she was like Beyonce?

[Robertocarlo]

Queen :love:


The only 'legend' that has maintained legendary status

This is hilarious what a complete twat and plonker is our Jack. Get him out!

[Lostie!]

You're correct. All this thread has done is prove how hypocritical, humourless and boring some people are.

It's good to see you can have a debate without resulting to petty insults. :thumbs:

She hasn't got a big ego imo

What about "I'm Beyonce and she's the backing dancer?" Is that not (as people have said Jack is doing), buying into her own hype?

The fact that she actually is popular, while Jack isn't, doesn't make a difference.

[Tom4784]

The desperate reaching tbh.

[JoshBB]

What about "I'm Beyonce and she's the backing dancer?" Is that not (as people have said Jack is doing), buying into her own hype?

The fact that she actually is popular, while Jack isn't, doesn't make a difference.

I think that was a joke..

[Kazanne]

Eh?

I don't perceive Jale as weak or innocent,Helen was horrible to her,Helen apologised and her Jale got on quite well at the end,that is why I like Helen she knew she was in the wrong,even though she said she was always in the right, always in the right:joker::joker:

[LukeB]

What about "I'm Beyonce and she's the backing dancer?" Is that not (as people have said Jack is doing), buying into her own hype?

The fact that she actually is popular, while Jack isn't, doesn't make a difference.

Didn't she say she was like Beyonce?

I don't actually think Nikki thinks that at all, but it's no rocket science she is actually a BB legend than Helen.

[Lostie!]

The desperate reaching tbh.

I think that was a joke..

There's always an excuse on hand when it's Nikki, isn't there? :joker:

All of the returnees are up themselves, that's what happens when you refer to someone as a "legend" over and over.

[chuff me dizzy]

Didn't she say she was like Beyonce?

Yes she did

[reece(:]

The desperate reaching tbh.
:clap2:

[reece(:]

I don't actually think Nikki thinks that at all, but it's no rocket science she is actually a BB legend than Helen.
The Bey comment was a pisstake.. ffs :joker::joker:

[Beetlejuice]

This thread is going on longer than The Postman

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119925/

[Lostie!]

The Bey comment was a pisstake.. ffs :joker::joker:

The analogy was a pisstake, but I've no doubt she laps up her public support and actually sees herself as a BB princess.

No "desperate reaching" (polite, btw) at all.

[TheElusiveChanteuse]

People saying this is cruel, ofc it's cruel - the show is cruel. He chose to go into the house, no one forced him.

[Tom4784]

The analogy was a pisstake, but I've no doubt she laps up her public support and actually sees herself as a BB princess.

No "desperate reaching" (polite, btw) at all.

You're overthinking it. She was just saying she was better than Helen and that she thought Helen was up her own arse.

[Beetlejuice]

I don't perceive Jale as weak or innocent

She had just walked in the house on her own. She couldn't have been any more vulnerable or innocent in the context of BB.


Helen was horrible to her,Helen apologised and her Jale got on quite well at the endthat is why I like Helen she knew she was in the wrong,even though she said she was always in the right, always in the right:joker::joker:

She knew she was in the wrong after 20 warnings and being told she must stop bullying people.

[Dollface]

I don't actually think Nikki thinks that at all, but it's no rocket science she is actually a BB legend than Helen.

You're going to make excuses for her no matter what.

Being more of a BB legend than Helen is irrelevant, we was talking about big egos.

[LukeB]

The Bey comment was a pisstake.. ffs :joker::joker:

Quote of the season tbh :joker: I didn't think people took that seriously.

but I don't get why Nikki is all of a sudden a bad guy for telling jack something that he already thinks himself. She would also get criticised for telling Jack he is hated tbh.

If he is evicted on friday (:fc:) and goes out to boos, it's his own fault for being up his own arse.

[Beetlejuice]

Quote of the season tbh :joker: I didn't think people took that seriously.

but I don't get why Nikki is all of a sudden a bad guy for telling jack something that he already thinks himself. She would also get criticised for telling Jack he is hated tbh.

If he is evicted on friday (:fc:) and goes out to boos, it's his own fault for being up his own arse.

It's just people who never liked Nikki seizing an opportunity to try and get at her. That's all.

[LukeB]

It's just people who never liked Nikki seizing an opportunity to try and get at her. That's all.

Nikki "oh you are favourite to win"
Jack's mind "that is brand new information /Phoebe "

[Tom4784]

So we've gone from saying that Nikki is nasty for dealing with someone in a non confrontational manner to saying that she's egotistical by overanalyzing her jokes?

The word 'pressed' springs to mind.

[Dollface]

It's just people who never liked Nikki seizing an opportunity to try and get at her. That's all.

Aw, well there you go making wrong assumptions. I liked Nikki before she went in the bunker.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Hopefully Jack doesn't get arrogant and cocky after BB, I hate people with big egos it's really annoying. Sezer's face getting evicted after thinking he is staying 100% = Priceless. I love when cocky people are shown that they are not all that.

Your profile favorites like Speidi and DAN GHEESLING don't have big egos?

[Lostie!]

You're overthinking it. She was just saying she was better than Helen and that she thought Helen was up her own arse.

The precise point I was making.

If Jack made a comment about being better than another housemate, wouldn't that be just another tick in the "Jack has an ego" box? The fact that Nikki actually is popular doesn't change that she is being arrogant about it. Heck, Jack had the support to back up his belief in his popularity earlier in the series, but people didn't like it any more then.

Again, there's no "desperate reaching tbh" involved there.

[Cherry Christmas]

People saying this is cruel, ofc it's cruel - the show is cruel. He chose to go into the house, no one forced him.

And when in previous BBs did ex housemates rock up bringing tales of the outside world ..fair enough a task that includes all the HMs but to single out individuals is spiteful.

[Tom4784]

The precise point I was making.

If Jack made a comment about being better than another housemate, wouldn't that be just another tick in the "Jack has an ego" box? The fact that Nikki actually is popular doesn't change that she is being arrogant about it. Heck, Jack had the support to back up his belief in his popularity earlier in the series, but people didn't like it any more then.

Again, there's no "desperate reaching tbh" involved there.

It's not egotistical to think you're better than Helen. She's a bitter bullying hypocritical hag so most people are automatically better than her.

[reece(:]

So we've gone from saying that Nikki is nasty for dealing with someone in a non confrontational manner to saying that she's egotistical by overanalyzing her jokes?

The word 'pressed' springs to mind.
:joker:

[Lostie!]

It's not egotistical to think you're better than Helen. She's a bitter bullying hypocritical hag so most people are automatically better than her.

I get the impression she was referring to their statuses as "legends", not morally.

[TheElusiveChanteuse]

So she goes into the bunker with the same perception as most of us on this forum in regards to Jack, and remember she has been put in there to stir things up.

She attacks Jack and she would be the bad guy.
She tells Jack he's hated and she would be the bad guy.
She tells Jack nothing and she's a coward.
She has told him he's loved and she's the bad guy.

Basically, she can't win with everybody. So this back and forth over the same thing is pointless. Is it really that important?

[TheElusiveChanteuse]

And when in previous BBs did ex housemates rock up bringing tales of the outside world ..fair enough a task that includes all the HMs but to single out individuals is spiteful.

Worse things have happened than what Nikki is doing with Jack, lets not get ahead of ourselves.

[Dollface]

It's not egotistical to think you're better than Helen. She's a bitter bullying hypocritical hag so most people are automatically better than her.

I agree, in fact i'd say my dogs **** is better than helen (i'd rather live with a dog **** than helen, that's for sure)
But Nikki clearly thinks she's something special, just like Jack who hasn't outwardly said he thinks he is going to win, yet everyone is calling him cocky/arrogant because they know he thinks it anyway.

[Tom4784]

I get the impression she was referring to their statuses as "legends", not morally.

Even if that's the case, she's still correct. Nikki is a BB legend, Helen was just a producer's pet that was repeatedly forced down our throat.

You can't blame Nikki for not liking Helen when she's had to be stuck with a woman that abuses people using their weight, thinks it's okay to tell people to die and has the audacity to call someone else a slag for having a positive body image when she spent the better part of her working life on her back.

[Lostie!]

Even if that's the case, she's still correct. Nikki is a BB legend

A point I already covered. Yes, Nikki's correct. That makes the fact that she has an ego about it no less true.

As I said, Jack was indeed popular earlier in the series, but his apparent-complacency wasn't liked then either. Even though he was "correct". Being cocky about support you do indeed have doesn't lessen the cockiness.

[Tom4784]

Comparing Nikki's ego in relation to Helen's and Jack thinking he rules the roost because he thinks he'll win is silly.

She's being egotistical when it comes to Helen because Helen thinks the world revolves around her. She's not acted the same way to anyone else in that house so far. Her sense of ego is in response to Helen's.

[Ammi]

..I would say with his anger that he's been showing recently under stress of tasks etc, his weight and his gambling that he doesn't have great coping abilities at all in life even though he may seem on the outside to be 'cocky' atm, I don't think he's confident at all...I think it's so grim to do this to him and with Nikki, she's had eating disorders herself and probably self esteem issues so I would have thought that she would be more understanding of what she's doing/how she's doing it....

[sampvt]

They shouldn't be telling any of them anything to do with the outside world, that's daft anyway.

[Vicky.]

Even if that's the case, she's still correct. Nikki is a BB legend, Helen was just a producer's pet that was repeatedly forced down our throat.

You can't blame Nikki for not liking Helen when she's had to be stuck with a woman that abuses people using their weight, thinks it's okay to tell people to die and has the audacity to call someone else a slag for having a positive body image when she spent the better part of her working life on her back.

:umm2: Nikki has took the piss out of Jacks weight. And one of her more famous quotes is her calling Richards a 'fat ox' :joker:

She was also joining in with the mocking of Harry being naked in the shower..when..I may have this wrong, but wasn't Nikki also an escort at some point?

I have to say I like her this time around, and yes, Helen is (in general) much nastier though

[chuff me dizzy]

:umm2: Nikki has took the piss out of Jacks weight. And one of her more famous quotes is her calling Richards a 'fat ox' :joker:

She was also joining in with the mocking of Harry being naked in the shower..when..I may have this wrong, but wasn't Nikki also an escort at some point?

I have to say I like her this time around, and yes, Helen is (in general) much nastier though

Yes Nikki is an ex ***** ........ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-401451/Big-Brothers-Nikki-I-500-hour-vice-girl.html

[Rob!]

Omg she's such a legend :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

[Braden]

Nikki is making me feel sorry for this plonker :bored:

[Kazanne]

:umm2: Nikki has took the piss out of Jacks weight. And one of her more famous quotes is her calling Richards a 'fat ox' :joker:

She was also joining in with the mocking of Harry being naked in the shower..when..I may have this wrong, but wasn't Nikki also an escort at some point?

I have to say I like her this time around, and yes, Helen is (in general) much nastier though

Yes she was an escort Vicky

[sampvt]

amazing how some people get selective hearing these days when something hits the airwaves.

[Tom4784]

amazing how some people get selective hearing these days when something hits the airwaves.

Indeed.

[Gusto Brunt]

Oh dear me,Nikki who's plan was to go in there and rip Jack a new one, instead fills his already over inflated ego, so much for straight talking Nikki,Once a bore,always a bore :bored:

I totally agree with you. A very bad move by Nikki. :nono: