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Pete.
15-06-2015, 03:50 PM
In tonight’s show we see Marc O’Neil, Helen Wood, Nikki Grahame and Brian Belo enter the main house after spending a few days in the bunker. Nikki starts to tease Jack the minute she walks into the house.
Nikki tells Jack some lies about his support in the outside world saying he has over 200,000 Twitter followers; he believes her and she is struggling to hold in her laughter.
After Nikki told a series of lies to Jack, she went to the Diary Room and said: “I can’t believe what I just said. These lies have spiralled out of control. “I can’t believe he’s buying everything I’ve said. I feel so evil… I told Jack that he’s basically won the show. He believes me!”
Big Brother continues tonight (Monday 15 June) at 10pm on Channel 5.
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Queen :love:
The only 'legend' that has maintained legendary status
ChristmasNeeve
15-06-2015, 03:51 PM
Oh Dear, I'm almost feeling sorry for Jack.......almost but not quite :fan:
Withano
15-06-2015, 03:51 PM
I love her!
JoshBB
15-06-2015, 03:51 PM
:laugh2:
Absolutely priceless.
Nancy.
15-06-2015, 03:53 PM
:laugh:
Poor Jack.
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 03:53 PM
I'm not a Jack fan but she's just being unnecessarily spiteful now. The fake question was funny, but no need to pile on and milk it. :idc:
LukeB
15-06-2015, 03:54 PM
Screaming :joker:
bbfan1991
15-06-2015, 03:55 PM
Nikki Grahame, you legend:laugh3::laugh2::joker:. I love how they're setting Jack up for a big fool. He's so going to be angry when the four nominate him!!
Cherry Christmas
15-06-2015, 03:55 PM
I'm not a Jack fan but she's just being unnecessarily spiteful now. The fake question was funny, but no need to pile on and milk it. :idc:
Thank God I thought I was on my own this is unnecessarily cruel
chuff me dizzy
15-06-2015, 03:55 PM
Oh dear me,Nikki who's plan was to go in there and rip Jack a new one, instead fills his already over inflated ego, so much for straight talking Nikki,Once a bore,always a bore :bored:
JoshBB
15-06-2015, 03:56 PM
Oh dear me,Nikki who's plan was to go in there and rip Jack a new one, instead fills his already over inflated ego, so much for straight talking Nikki,Once a bore,always a bore :bored:
This is so much better. If they nominate him (which I think they will), just wait until Friday's boos.. :cheer2:
Headie
15-06-2015, 03:56 PM
TV Gold :love:
Pete.
15-06-2015, 03:56 PM
Oh dear me,Nikki who's plan was to go in there and rip Jack a new one, instead fills his already over inflated ego, so much for straight talking Nikki,Once a bore,always a bore :bored:
He's playing games with him, making his downfall all the more entertaining
Liam-
15-06-2015, 03:56 PM
I'm not a Jack fan but she's just being unnecessarily spiteful now. The fake question was funny, but no need to pile on and milk it. :idc:
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Dollface
15-06-2015, 03:56 PM
Thank God I thought I was on my own this is unnecessarily cruel
I thought I was the only one too. I thought the question was cruel enough in yesterdays show but to keep it up is just mean.
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 03:58 PM
Thank God I thought I was on my own this is unnecessarily cruel
Glad to see I'm not alone. It looks like another case of petty spitefulness being accepted since a) it's Nikki giving it and b) it's Jack receiving it.
ChristmasNeeve
15-06-2015, 03:58 PM
I thought I was the only one too. I thought the question was cruel enough in yesterdays show but to keep it up is just mean.
Yeah it is a bit, it's worse than just arguing with him tbh, it's making a fool of him
LukeB
15-06-2015, 03:59 PM
He's playing games with him, making his downfall all the more entertaining
:clap2:
Cherry Christmas
15-06-2015, 03:59 PM
They seem determined to crush Jack, showing him picking his nose and eating it will cost him his job as well if he still has one, BB is turning into the modern day equivalent of a day out at a hanging :nono:
reece(:
15-06-2015, 04:00 PM
The reaction to the boos will be even more golden :clap1:
Dollface
15-06-2015, 04:00 PM
Nikki has let me down big time, thought she would be really funny but she's just been unnecessarily nasty.
She said she was going to rip into him when she went into the main house but what she's doing is even worse.
She says **** about Helen behind her back (i hate helen, but nikki is so 2 faced) but agrees with everything she says in front of her face.
chuff me dizzy
15-06-2015, 04:00 PM
This is so much better. If they nominate him (which I think they will), just wait until Friday's boos.. :cheer2:
But she's bottled it, thats my gripe
chuff me dizzy
15-06-2015, 04:01 PM
Nikki has let me down big time, thought she would be really funny but she's just been unnecessarily nasty.
She said she was going to rip into him when she went into the main house but what she's doing is even worse.
She says **** about Helen behind her back but agrees with everything she says in front of her face.
:worship: Spot on,waiting until Helens in the bathroom and backstabbing in whispers to Belo
Cherry Christmas
15-06-2015, 04:01 PM
I thought I was the only one too. I thought the question was cruel enough in yesterdays show but to keep it up is just mean.
It's downright nasty, he could end up mentally unstable after this level of vitriol
ItWasJustBanter
15-06-2015, 04:02 PM
Kind of hope he stays on a bit longer now just to see how cocky he'll get.
Cherry Christmas
15-06-2015, 04:02 PM
Nikki has let me down big time, thought she would be really funny but she's just been unnecessarily nasty.
She said she was going to rip into him when she went into the main house but what she's doing is even worse.
She says **** about Helen behind her back (i hate helen so idc, but nikki is so 2 faced) but agrees with everything she says in front of her face.
:clap2:
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:03 PM
It's downright nasty, he could end up mentally unstable after this level of vitriol
Nikki is telling what he already thinks anyway.
Rustic bauble
15-06-2015, 04:04 PM
He's playing games with him, making his downfall all the more entertaining
Brilliant....harmless fun!!....:cheer2:
JoshBB
15-06-2015, 04:04 PM
I'm not a Jack fan but she's just being unnecessarily spiteful now. The fake question was funny, but no need to pile on and milk it. :idc:
Thank God I thought I was on my own this is unnecessarily cruel
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I thought I was the only one too. I thought the question was cruel enough in yesterdays show but to keep it up is just mean.
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Lostie!
15-06-2015, 04:04 PM
Nikki is telling what he already thinks anyway.
She's mocking him to his face without him even knowing, and building him up just so he'll have an even greater fall eventually. It's just nasty.
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:05 PM
Nikki has let me down big time, thought she would be really funny but she's just been unnecessarily nasty.
She said she was going to rip into him when she went into the main house but what she's doing is even worse.
She says **** about Helen behind her back (i hate helen, but nikki is so 2 faced) but agrees with everything she says in front of her face.
People would hate on Nikki however she was in the house
Cherry Christmas
15-06-2015, 04:05 PM
Nikki is telling what he already thinks anyway.
That is hardly the point, he can think what he likes, his behaviour in the house is now being manipulated aided and abetted by by a ex housemate who should know better I guess money talks
Dollface
15-06-2015, 04:05 PM
Brilliant....harmless fun!!....:cheer2:
It's not exactly harmless though, something like this could really mess someone up.
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:06 PM
She's mocking him to his face without him even knowing, and building him up just so he'll have an even greater fall eventually. It's just nasty.
It's harmless, Helen is what you would describe as nasty but Nikki is just having fun. She didn't need to tell him because he already thinks he is going to win.It's not her thought jack is some cocky idiot.
Dollface
15-06-2015, 04:06 PM
People would hate on Nikki however she was in the house
Why?
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:06 PM
It's downright nasty, he could end up mentally unstable after this level of vitriol
This isn't Channel 4, no one will care the day after his eviction
Cherry Christmas
15-06-2015, 04:06 PM
It's not exactly harmless though, something like this could really mess someone up.
Exactly :umm2:
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:07 PM
Why?
Whatever she does she'll get she's annoying, she's so boring now, she's a one trick pony, she's so irritating, she's disappointing etc
ChristmasNeeve
15-06-2015, 04:07 PM
It's harmless, Helen is what you would describe as nasty but Nikki is just having fun. She didn't need to tell him because he already thinks he is going to win.It's not her thought jack is some cocky idiot.
I don't think it is harmless tbh Luke. Put yourself in their shoes for a minute and be honest. Would you rather be humiliated or insulted? Personally I'd rather be insulted.
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:08 PM
It's not exactly harmless though, something like this could really mess someone up.
This is Big Brother (.com), what do they expect
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:08 PM
I want Jack to be surprised by his boos as much as the next person, but deliberately building his hopes up, whether they've already got an ego or not, in order for them to have an ever bigger fall from grace, is just nasty and sly, I don't like that at all.
But alas, it's Princess Nikki so rose tinted glasses shall be securely stuck to the nations faces.
Dollface
15-06-2015, 04:08 PM
It's harmless, Helen is what you would describe as nasty but Nikki is just having fun. She didn't need to tell him because he already thinks he is going to win.It's not her thought jack is some cocky idiot.
Nikki has been almost as nasty as Helen imo, really shocked by her.
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:08 PM
It's not exactly harmless though, something like this could really mess someone up.
Nikki knows it won't mess him up, he thinks he is going to win anyway, he thinks he is the peoples favourite way before the question and what nikki said. It's his own thought for being cocky and thinking all of that if he was messed up after BB.
Dollface
15-06-2015, 04:10 PM
I don't think it is harmless tbh Luke. Put yourself in their shoes for a minute and be honest. Would you rather be humiliated or insulted? Personally I'd rather be insulted.
100% this
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:10 PM
I don't think it is harmless tbh Luke. Put yourself in their shoes for a minute and be honest. Would you rather be humiliated or insulted? Personally I'd rather be insulted.
:clap1:
I'd rather have Helen insult me than someone be sly and try to embarrass me.
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:11 PM
I don't think it is harmless tbh Luke. Put yourself in their shoes for a minute and be honest. Would you rather be humiliated or insulted? Personally I'd rather be insulted.
I know it will be my own thought if I was ever cocky, I wouldn't describe Nikki as nasty tbh
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 04:12 PM
Nikki has been almost as nasty as Helen imo, really shocked by her.
I'm not tbh, not after rewatching some early BB7 clips the other day.
Rustic bauble
15-06-2015, 04:12 PM
It's not exactly harmless though, something like this could really mess someone up.
He's already a mess....perhaps he should be a bit more humble and level headed and take it more in his stride.
He needs to grow up big time...he acts like a 14 year old and throws massive tantrums when things don't go his way.
Kazanne
15-06-2015, 04:12 PM
It is over the top,people moan about Helen yet are revelling in this lad being lied to and given false hope,he has already lost the car,but because it's Nikki it's great and hilarious,well it's NOT.
Withano
15-06-2015, 04:12 PM
Nikki Grahame, you legend:laugh3::laugh2::joker:. I love how they're setting Jack up for a big fool. He's so going to be angry when the four nominate him!!
I hope they nominate him with the reason "you're the favourite, you're not gonna leave"
Ramsay
15-06-2015, 04:12 PM
Not really a fan of Nikki's but... :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:13 PM
He's already a mess....perhaps he should be a bit more humble and level headed and take it more in his stride.
He needs to grow up big time...he acts like a 14 year old and throws massive tantrums when things don't go his way.
I love Nikki
Cherry Christmas
15-06-2015, 04:13 PM
I imagine if Helen did this to Harry people opinions would be totally different.
Dollface
15-06-2015, 04:13 PM
Nikki knows it won't mess him up, he thinks he is going to win anyway, he thinks he is the peoples favourite way before the question and what nikki said. It's his own thought for being cocky and thinking all of that if he was messed up after BB.
I just can't get my head around that, to me it is cruel to make someone believe they're loved/adored by the public when in actual fact they don't have a hope in hell of winning.
When he's up for eviction and hears all those boos, he's going to be wondering what he did wrong to have changed the publics opinion of him so quickly. He's going to be shocked, expecting cheers but receiving boos and it's going to be written all over his face which is going to be humiliating for him.
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:14 PM
I imagine if Helen did this to Harry people opinions would be totally different.
Exactly, she'd be scum and the devils favourite demon.
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 04:14 PM
I imagine if Helen did this to Harry people opinions would be totally different.
:clap1:
The sad fact is that popular housemates are allowed to be nasty, and unpopular housemates are fair game for being on the receiving end.
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:14 PM
Exactly, she'd be scum and the devils favourite demon.
Nothing new there
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:14 PM
:clap1:
The sad fact is that popular housemates are allowed to be nasty, and unpopular housemates are fair game for being on the receiving end.
Helen won didn't she?
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:15 PM
I just can't get my head around that, to me it is cruel to make someone believe they're loved/adored by the public when in actual fact they don't have a hope in hell of winning.
When he's up for eviction and hears all those boos, he's going to be wondering what he did wrong to have changed the publics opinion of him so quickly. He's going to be shocked, expecting cheers but receiving boos and it's going to be written all over his face which is going to be humiliating for him.
He already thinks he is adored/loved anyway since day 3, one of the reasons why he is disliked because he is cocky. He would have been shocked anyway even if Nikki didn't say all that tbqh did you see his face when he watched a clip of the legends and Helen?
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:16 PM
Nothing new there
Lostie's point proven, as long as a housemate is generally disliked, they're not allowed to do anything without being branded the worst thing in the world, but a popular housemate comes along and does something nasty and vindictive and it's all sweetness and light.
Kazanne
15-06-2015, 04:17 PM
It's harmless, Helen is what you would describe as nasty but Nikki is just having fun. She didn't need to tell him because he already thinks he is going to win.It's not her thought jack is some cocky idiot.
This post tells me all I need to know about the delusion people have of Nikki,she is nasty but can get away with it because she acts like a kid,no one has even mentioned her calling Harry a trog,if that had been Helen it would have gone on for days, Get your heads out the sand guys,Nikki can be as nasty and devious as the rest of them.
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:18 PM
Wasn't there something earlier that said Nikki had convinced people there was a record label waiting to sign Cristian when he got out as well?
I imagine if Helen did this to Harry people opinions would be totally different.
I was just coming in to post similar Cherie.
So it's alright for Nikki to be nasty if it's toward someone that's disliked......
ChristmasNeeve
15-06-2015, 04:19 PM
:clap1:
I'd rather have Helen insult me than someone be sly and try to embarrass me.
That's not to say I think what Helen does is ok, over all she's worse imo
JoshBB
15-06-2015, 04:19 PM
I was just coming in to post similar Cherie.
So it's alright for Nikki to be nasty if it's toward someone that's disliked......
I didn't think it was nasty
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:19 PM
Lostie's point proven, as long as a housemate is generally disliked, they're not allowed to do anything without being branded the worst thing in the world, but a popular housemate comes along and does something nasty and vindictive and it's all sweetness and light.
What has Nikki done wrong? At least she's providing new entertainment. Helen and Marc's act got old in the first week of their respective series
Rustic bauble
15-06-2015, 04:19 PM
Well as funny as I think it is....it is a bit mean!!
BUT....if the general public are of the same opinion...it might go in his favour. Although somehow...I think not because people are sick of his arrogance.
Kazanne
15-06-2015, 04:20 PM
I was just coming in to post similar Cherie.
So it's alright for Nikki to be nasty if it's toward someone that's disliked......
Yes Josy,that sums it up nicely.
Dollface
15-06-2015, 04:20 PM
He already thinks he is adored/loved anyway since day 3, one of the reasons why he is disliked because he is cocky. He would have been shocked anyway even if Nikki didn't say all that tbqh did you see his face when he watched a clip of the legends and Helen?
But it doesn't matter what he thinks, he could think he was the most loved person in the UK but that wouldn't change the fact Nikki is being cruel in trying to humiliate the guy.
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:20 PM
This post tells me all I need to know about the delusion people have of Nikki,she is nasty but can get away with it because she acts like a kid,no one has even mentioned her calling Harry a trog,if that had been Helen it would have gone on for days, Get your heads out the sand guys,Nikki can be as nasty and devious as the rest of them.
I'm not deluded thank you very much.Helen is the most vile cretin in there and is the definition of nasty. Nikki is just having fun she isn't innocent but she is just telling him what he already thinks nothing wrong with that. If she did that to Simon or anyone else then yeah it will be nasty because they don't think they are going to win and are the public's favourite. Jack already thinks he is loved tbh.
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:21 PM
What has Nikki done wrong? At least she's providing new entertainment. Helen and Marc's act got old in the first week of their respective series
She's purposely getting someone's hopes up, even further than they are, just to humiliate him when he finds out he's not actually all that popular at all, that's sly and cruel, but as seen, will obviously be ignored because Jack is disliked and Nikki is a 'legend'
Dollface
15-06-2015, 04:21 PM
Luke let me ask you this;
If HELEN was doing this to JOEL, would you think it was funny?
I didn't think it was nasty
Well it was nasty, what else would you call it then?
Vicky.
15-06-2015, 04:22 PM
I find this so cruel, but funny at the same time. When he hears the boos on friday :hehe:
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:22 PM
But it doesn't matter what he thinks, he could think he was the most loved person in the UK but that wouldn't change the fact Nikki is being cruel in trying to humiliate the guy.
He is humiliating himself tho if nikki never said anything he would have been embarrassed by the boos because he already thinks he is the public's favourite like Wolfy did
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:22 PM
Luke let me ask you this;
If HELEN was doing this to JOEL, would you think it was funny?
I think we all know the answer to this one.
Kazanne
15-06-2015, 04:22 PM
I'm not deluded thank you very much.Helen is the most vile cretin in there and is the definition of nasty. Nikki is just having fun she isn't innocent but she is just telling him what he already thinks nothing wrong with that. If she did that to Simon or anyone else then yeah it will be nasty because they don't think they are going to win and are the public's favourite. Jack already thinks he is loved tbh.
As I said deluded,and there are far worse said in some of these posts than Helen has EVER said,go check yourselves. I would think it cruel if she did that to anyone.
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 04:22 PM
But it doesn't matter what he thinks, he could think he was the most loved person in the UK but that wouldn't change the fact Nikki is being cruel in trying to humiliate the guy.
Exactly. :)
I'm not deluded thank you very much.Helen is the most vile cretin in there and is the definition of nasty. Nikki is just having fun she isn't innocent but she is just telling him what he already thinks nothing wrong with that. If she did that to Simon or anyone else then yeah it will be nasty because they don't think they are going to win and are the public's favourite. Jack already thinks he is loved tbh.
But what Jack "already thinks" is irrelevent to the point being made that Nikki is being spiteful. Yes, he already thinks he's popular, but Nikki is intentionally building this up even more just to take the piss out of him.
She might be "having fun", she seemed to be having a lot of fun in 2006 when she suggested hiding Shahbaz's clothes to "hurt him more", too. Shame she can't have fun without it being at someone else's expense.
Macie Lightfoot
15-06-2015, 04:22 PM
Glad to see I'm not alone. It looks like another case of petty spitefulness being accepted since a) it's Nikki giving it and b) it's Jack receiving it.
:clap1::clap1::clap1:
ChristmasNeeve
15-06-2015, 04:22 PM
I find this so cruel, but funny at the same time. When he hears the boos on friday :hehe:
Yeah same but then I have to remind myself he's a real person and then I think, you know that really is cruel and nasty
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:23 PM
Luke let me ask you this;
If HELEN was doing this to JOEL, would you think it was funny?
no I because Joel isn't up himself, I said in another post if Nikki did it to Simon or anyone else then yeah it will be nasty.
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:23 PM
no I because Joel isn't up himself, I said in another post if Nikki did it to Simon or anyone else then yeah it will be nasty.
So you're literally saying that it's okay because she's doing it to Jack?
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 04:23 PM
no I because Joel isn't up himself, I said in another post if Nikki did it to Simon or anyone else then yeah it will be nasty.
Wow, someone who can make distinctions.
Dollface
15-06-2015, 04:24 PM
no I because Joel isn't up himself, I said in another post if Nikki did it to Simon or anyone else then yeah it will be nasty.
..............
Literally that's all I can say to that.
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 04:24 PM
So you're literally saying that it's okay because she's doing it to Jack?
He's saying it's okay because she's doing it to a guy whose ego has got a bit out of control
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:24 PM
So you're literally saying that it's okay because she's doing it to Jack?
because he already thinks he is the public's favourite..
Vicky.
15-06-2015, 04:24 PM
Yeah same but then I have to remind myself he's a real person and then I think, you know that really is cruel and nasty
I know I know...I keep flip flopping between feeling incredibly sorry for him, and thinking how funny it will be. When it comes to it though, I probably won't find it funny as it will probably completely crush him. I just hate when housemates get it into their heads that they are definitely going to win, and thats jack all over :S
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:25 PM
because he already thinks he is the public's favourite..
That doesn't make a difference to the situation in the slightest
chuff me dizzy
15-06-2015, 04:25 PM
As I said deluded,and there are far worse said in some of these posts than Helen has EVER said,go check yourselves. I would think it cruel if she did that to anyone.
It would be totally different if Helen was doing what Nikkis done ......double standards
Kazanne
15-06-2015, 04:27 PM
Marc on other hand has relentlessly called Harry a pig, thick, stinking, ignorant, smelly, dangerous and who knows what else, and yet the people attacking Nikki for one word regard him as their favourite. Now that is interesting...
As harry has called him,this isn't about housemates calling each other names,and btw,Nikki hasn't just called her one word,that one just stuck as it was weird,,lol,anyway this is about Nikki,giving someone the impression they are a winner,loved by the public,and then lolling about it in the DR as she knows it's not true,so she gets away with lying too.
ChristmasNeeve
15-06-2015, 04:27 PM
I know I know...I keep flip flopping between feeling incredibly sorry for him, and thinking how funny it will be. When it comes to it though, I probably won't find it funny as it will probably completely crush him. I just hate when housemates get it into their heads that they are definitely going to win, and thats jack all over :S
Yeah i know what you mean and Jack was already turning pretty dickish he was that sure of himself.....it still is very cruel though. The question about the adoring fans was funny but I think that's where the line should have been drawn.
Kazanne
15-06-2015, 04:28 PM
It would be totally different if Helen was doing what Nikkis done ......double standards
:joker: It's a funny old world
Tom4784
15-06-2015, 04:28 PM
But she's bottled it, thats my gripe
What she's doing is way better, she's giving him the rope to hang himself with. It's simple and dumb to think that she should just go in and run her mouth off, what's the point of that? What she's doing is way better.
He is his own undoing.
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 04:30 PM
As harry has called him
She has defended herself in response to the relentless attacks which have been far more vicious than anything Nikki has said and done to anyone.
If anyone is getting away with everything it is a guy who walks around half naked and is supposedly "entertaining". The girls on the other hand can't put a foot wrong or do anything vaguely controversial without being attacked.
Nikki hasn't just called her one word,that one just stuck as it was weird,,lol,anyway this is about Nikki,giving someone the impression they are a winner,loved by the public,and then lolling about it in the DR as she knows it's not true,so she gets away with lying too.
Ooooh! She's told a few porkies to a guy who has got a bit above himself. The sinister little cow!
chuff me dizzy
15-06-2015, 04:30 PM
What she's doing is way better, she's giving him the rope to hang himself with. It's simple and dumb to think that she should just go in and run her mouth off, what's the point of that? What she's doing is way better.
He is his own undoing.
I can't see it that way,to me she's been all mouth,but failed with the action part
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:31 PM
What she's doing is way better, she's giving him the rope to hang himself with. It's simple and dumb to think that she should just go in and run her mouth off, what's the point of that? What she's doing is way better.
He is his own undoing.
So because he's an ass, that gives her the right to be cruel and sly? :shrug:
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 04:31 PM
It would be totally different if Helen was doing what Nikkis done ......double standards
It probably wouldn't. The problem people have always had with Helen is that she is so in your face and aggressive it is offputting. If she did anything a little more subtle and clever people would almost be impressed. But that's not her style.
But I repeat that the double standards, if there are any, is the attitude towards the girls on this show and the attitude towards Marc who can get away with being the biggest bully in there.
Tom4784
15-06-2015, 04:32 PM
I can't see it that way,to me she's been all mouth,but failed with the action part
That's a very simplistic way of looking things.
Tom4784
15-06-2015, 04:32 PM
So because he's an ass, that gives her the right to be cruel and sly? :shrug:
She's not doing anything wrong, it's Jack's arrogance that is his undoing. He has bought into his own hype.
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:34 PM
I can't see it that way,to me she's been all mouth,but failed with the action part
If she told Jack what she thought people would still describe her as cruel.
Tom4784
15-06-2015, 04:34 PM
Helen wouldn't do what Nikki is doing because Helen is thick as pig **** and wouldn't have the brains or subtlety to do anything more than mouth off and be a twat.
Dollface
15-06-2015, 04:34 PM
She's not doing anything wrong, it's Jack's arrogance that is his undoing. He has bought into his own hype.
So purposely lying to someone about how they are being perceived (to humiliate them) isn't wrong?
I just don't understand people
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:35 PM
She's not doing anything wrong, it's Jack's arrogance that is his undoing. He has bought into his own hype.
She's being vindictive and manipulative, hoping to embarrass him even more than he's already going to be, that's not a nice thing for her to be doing, even if he is a prick.
chuff me dizzy
15-06-2015, 04:35 PM
If she told Jack what she thought people would still describe her as cruel.
But they could never call her a fake,back peddler !!
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:35 PM
Helen wouldn't do what Nikki is doing because Helen is thick as pig **** and wouldn't have the brains or subtlety to do anything more than mouth off and be a twat.
:clap1:
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:35 PM
She's not doing anything wrong, it's Jack's arrogance that is his undoing. He has bought into his own hype.
:clap1:
If I was in Jacks shoes I would look like a fool anyway before the questions and what Nikki told me, Even if it was Helen I wouldn't blame them because I know it's my own thought for coming a cross as an arrogant cocky person.
Kazanne
15-06-2015, 04:35 PM
She has defended herself in response to the relentless attacks which have been far more vicious than anything Nikki has said and done to anyone.
If anyone is getting away with everything it is a guy who walks around half naked and is supposedly "entertaining". The girls on the other hand can't put a foot wrong or do anything vaguely controversial without being attacked.
Ooooh! She's told a few porkies to a guy who has got a bit above himself. The sinister little cow!
you got those last 4 words right at least:hehe:
JoshBB
15-06-2015, 04:36 PM
Well it was nasty, what else would you call it then?
Hilarious. :laugh:
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:36 PM
If she told Jack what she thought people would still describe her as cruel.
I wouldn't, I prefer upfront and honest people, right now she's being sneaky and conniving.
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:36 PM
I think people are overthinking this :laugh:
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 04:37 PM
She's not doing anything wrong, it's Jack's arrogance that is his undoing. He has bought into his own hype.
Yep, and Nikki is demonstrating that.
It wouldn't surprise me if Jack knows all this anyway. And BB are just making it look otherwise.
I've noticed the editing of Jack has been getting much more negative lately.
Cherry Christmas
15-06-2015, 04:37 PM
Nikki. .. Subtle :joker:
Tom4784
15-06-2015, 04:37 PM
So purposely lying to someone about how they are being perceived isn't wrong?
I just don't understand people
No it's not, it's his choice to believe to her or not and because he thinks he's already won the show he'll believe it without a second thought.
If he wasn't so arrogant and full of himself he wouldn't have let anything she said go to his head. All she's doing is giving him enough rope to hang himself with, it's his own fault for buying into his own hype.
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:37 PM
Jack humiliated himself way before time warp tbh
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 04:37 PM
you got those last 4 words right at least:hehe:
And the previous words you have been unable to dispute.
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:37 PM
I think people are overthinking this :laugh:
We'll see if that's the argument when Helen next gets crucified for opening her mouth.
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 04:38 PM
Nikki. .. Subtle :joker:
Well, compared to Helen's approach to such matters.
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 04:38 PM
She's not doing anything wrong, it's Jack's arrogance that is his undoing. He has bought into his own hype.
Which basically sounds like a yes to Liam's question.
I don't think Jack's admittedly-crappy attitude makes Nikki being petty and spiteful any better, personally.
bbfan1991
15-06-2015, 04:38 PM
Nikki has gone about it the smart way than her initial obvious thinking. Jack needs a downfall and he'll be getting it with both barrels.
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 04:39 PM
The irony is that it is the Helen fans calling Nikki nasty.
Is it? Because I'm not a Helen fan. :shrug:
Though, weren't you one until about yesterday? I'm not quite sure why you're making passive-aggressive comments about Helen's fans and their judgements of nastiness when you've only recently stopped being one.
joeysteele
15-06-2015, 04:39 PM
I'm not a Jack fan but she's just being unnecessarily spiteful now. The fake question was funny, but no need to pile on and milk it. :idc:
I agree with this.
Cherry Christmas
15-06-2015, 04:40 PM
Nike didn't dream this up at any rate so no brains required, it was Marc said he was going to go in and say x was hated, she just flipped it.
bbfan1991
15-06-2015, 04:40 PM
Helen wouldn't do what Nikki is doing because Helen is thick as pig **** and wouldn't have the brains or subtlety to do anything more than mouth off and be a twat.
No it's not, it's his choice to believe to her or not and because he thinks he's already won the show he'll believe it without a second thought.
If he wasn't so arrogant and full of himself he wouldn't have let anything she said go to his head. All she's doing is giving him enough rope to hang himself with, it's his own fault for buying into his own hype.
Absolutely spot on!!
armand.kay
15-06-2015, 04:40 PM
Oh nikki you evil bitch http://31.media.tumblr.com/73292c9a716cf232d99d9b00b82ab6a8/tumblr_inline_nan044q2CI1rnvwt1.gif
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:40 PM
I think people are overthinking this :laugh:
Yeah I agree, Nikki isn't given him false hope because he already thinks it he didn't need anyone to tell him because he already knows. If Time Warp never happened he would have been shocked at the boos and look like a fool anway. To describe Nikki as nasty is silly. She isn't innocent but she sure isn't nasty.
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:41 PM
The irony is that people support and glorify this while running to get their pitchforks for anything that comes out of Helen's mouth
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 04:42 PM
Yeah I agree, Nikki isn't given him false hope because he already thinks it he didn't need anyone to tell him because he already knows. If Time Warp never happened he would have been shocked at the boos and look like a fool anway. To describe Nikki as nasty is silly. She isn't innocent but she sure isn't nasty.
Branding Nikki nasty isn't at all silly, not when she's been nasty during her BB stints more than once.
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 04:42 PM
Branding Nikki nasty isn't at all silly, not when she's been nasty during her BB stints more than once.
It's a bit silly if you're a fan of Marc and Helen.
chuff me dizzy
15-06-2015, 04:42 PM
The irony is that people support and glorify this while running to get their pitchforks for anything that comes out of Helen's mouth
Sweet Jesus and all the angels ............... I agree with you :shocked::shocked:
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:43 PM
The irony is that people support and glorify this while running to get their pitchforks for anything that comes out of Helen's mouth
Because Helen is an aggressive cow who thinks that winning arguments and getting her point across involves stooping to insults, invading people's space and screaming at them
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:43 PM
Branding Nikki nasty isn't at all silly, not when she's been nasty during her BB stints more than once.
Nikki gets away with it because she only ever does or says anything to people who are disliked, which works in her favour.
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:43 PM
The irony is that people support and glorify this while running to get their pitchforks for anything that comes out of Helen's mouth
Because what Helen does is actually nasty... did you see yesterdays show? why do you think Helen fans turned on her for her Harry treatment.
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 04:43 PM
The irony is that people support and glorify this while running to get their pitchforks for anything that comes out of Helen's mouth
Honestly, you really think giving a guy a rope to hang himself with is on a par with the sheer viciousness of Helen's attacks on people?
chuff me dizzy
15-06-2015, 04:43 PM
Branding Nikki nasty isn't at all silly, not when she's been nasty during her BB stints more than once.
Maybe why despite being in and out more than Harry customers she's never won the show
Cherry Christmas
15-06-2015, 04:43 PM
Sweet Jesus and all the angels ............... I agree with you :shocked::shocked:
:joker:
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:44 PM
Branding Nikki nasty isn't at all silly, not when she's been nasty during her BB stints more than once.
She isn't nasty imo, She is no where near nasty as others tbqh.
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:44 PM
Because Helen is an aggressive cow who thinks that winning arguments and getting her point across involves stooping to insults, invading people's space and screaming at them
Because what Helen does is actually nasty... did you see yesterdays show? why do you think Helen fans turned on her for her Harry treatment.
She could say she didn't like brown bread and people would hop on board the hate bus and try to branch it to some form of hidden racism just to prove a point.
Cherry Christmas
15-06-2015, 04:45 PM
Maybe why despite being in and out more than Harry customers she's never won the show
she has been given ample opportunity :laugh:
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:45 PM
She could say she didn't like brown bread and people would hop on board the hate bus and try to branch it to some form of hidden racism just to prove a point.
stop going over the top :umm2:
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:45 PM
Sweet Jesus and all the angels ............... I agree with you :shocked::shocked:
Doesn't it feel good? you should do it more often :hehe:
Tom4784
15-06-2015, 04:46 PM
The irony is that people support and glorify this while running to get their pitchforks for anything that comes out of Helen's mouth
Because Helen is a bullying twat that isolates and preys on easy targets. She is someone that outs people on Twitter and brands other people Peadophiles if she doesn't like them.
Nikki isn't doing anything on that level, hell she's barely doing anything. She's just letting Jack dig his own hole.
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 04:46 PM
She isn't nasty imo, She is no where near nasty as others tbqh.
In BB7, she was just as nasty as the others in particular situations and I don't understand why some people believe otherwise.
People said she'd matured since etc, but that's not the impression I'm getting.
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:46 PM
stop going over the top :umm2:
I'm not going over the top, it's fact, every little thing that Helen does or says gets analysed and torn apart for people to use to bash her with, while sweet little innocent Nikki can be as cold and calculating as she wants, but gets away with it because her persona doesn't match the things she says/does, it's gross.
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:46 PM
She could say she didn't like brown bread and people would hop on board the hate bus and try to branch it to some form of hidden racism just to prove a point.
Don't be silly, BB15 is 72 days of evidence of why Helen gets the deserved hate she gets and 64 days of BB7, 21 days of UBB and 3 days of BB16 is evidence of why Nikki is one of the most popular BB housemates
chuff me dizzy
15-06-2015, 04:47 PM
she has been given ample opportunity :laugh:
Has she ever, even tried a fake romance with the house idiot, and that didn't work .....she needs to get a job and leave BB for the people who can win it
chuff me dizzy
15-06-2015, 04:47 PM
I'm not going over the top, it's fact, every little thing that Helen does or says gets analysed and torn apart for people to use to bash her with, while sweet little innocent Nikki can be as cold and calculating as she wants, but gets away with it because her persona doesn't match the things she says/does, it's gross.
:clap1:
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:48 PM
Don't be silly, BB15 is 72 days of evidence of why Helen gets the deserved hate she gets and 64 days of BB7, 21 days of UBB and 3 days of BB16 is evidence of why Nikki is one of the most popular BB housemates
Where she was transphobic and one of the main instigators of the bullying and isolation of Shahbaz yeah? I see you.
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:48 PM
Has she ever, even tried a fake romance with the house idiot, and that didn't work .....she needs to get a job and leave BB for the people who can win it
She works in Hard Rock Cafe in Paris
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:48 PM
I'm not going over the top, it's fact, every little thing that Helen does or says gets analysed and torn apart for people to use to bash her with, while sweet little innocent Nikki can be as cold and calculating as she wants, but gets away with it because her persona doesn't match the things she says/does, it's gross.
Yes you are tbh that comment was so OTT, it's not our thought Helen is a vile bully is it. Of course we are going to judge Helen because of her nasty actions from BB15/Harry
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 04:48 PM
She could say she didn't like brown bread and people would hop on board the hate bus and try to branch it to some form of hidden racism just to prove a point.
Nope. They wouldn't. Only when she isolates people and refers to them as slugs and wasps on her calmer days and then when she gets angry starts jabbing a finger in a persons face and tells him or her what she's going to do to them like some power hungry psychopath, do people start thinking... "Jeez, she's a bit of a bitch". And even after all that, she still has people flocking to her defence.
Much the same with Marc who has gone out of his way to isolate, browbeat and bully Harry, much to the amusement of some, who even manage to blame her for it all because she dares to speak back to him!
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:48 PM
Where she was transphobic and one of the main instigators of the bullying and isolation of Shahbaz yeah? I see you.
Lmao Helen was involved in much worse
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:49 PM
Lmao Helen was involved in much worse
:clap1:
Even on twitter she is worse
Tom4784
15-06-2015, 04:49 PM
I'm not going over the top, it's fact, every little thing that Helen does or says gets analysed and torn apart for people to use to bash her with, while sweet little innocent Nikki can be as cold and calculating as she wants, but gets away with it because her persona doesn't match the things she says/does, it's gross.
That's honestly ridiculous.
When has Nikki ever told anyone to die? When has she ever branded someone 'Slugworth' because of their appearance? When has she ever victimised someone using their sexuality?
Helen is hated for a reason and you must be blind not to see that.
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 04:49 PM
Shahbaz... Aka the most mentally unbalanced individual to ever be put in the house.
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:50 PM
That's honestly ridiculous.
When has Nikki ever told anyone to die? When has she ever branded someone 'Slugworth' because of their appearance? When has she ever victimised someone using their sexuality?
Helen is hated for a reason and you must be blind not to see that.
Preach
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:50 PM
Yes you are tbh that comment was so OTT, it's not our thought Helen is a vile bully is it. Of course we are going to judge Helen because of her nasty actions from BB15/Harry
What do you mean it's not your thought? that makes no sense.
What did Helen do that was so mean to Harry? she was asked directly by Big Brother to give the reasons all four of them had nominated her, to which Nikki nodded along signifying that she agreed with everything she was saying.
Nikki wasn't exactly nice about Harry either, but of course we'll let that one slide.
Patricia4
15-06-2015, 04:50 PM
Im shocked at Nikki with Jack she said she couldn't wait to give him it in the house I see no fireworks there.
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 04:50 PM
Lmao Helen was involved in much worse
Is the only defence of Nikki's behaviour that others have been worse? You said that Nikki's time in BB is evidence of why she's so popular, so what's your actual opinion on the times that she was indeed very nasty?
Dollface
15-06-2015, 04:51 PM
Is the only defence of Nikki's behaviour that others have been worse? You said that Nikki's time in BB is evidence of why she's so popular, so what's your actual opinion on the times that she was indeed very nasty?
:worship:
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:51 PM
Lmao Helen was involved in much worse
'Oh, she's not bad because other people have done worse' is not an argument that can be used while defending someone's actions.
Vicky.
15-06-2015, 04:52 PM
Shahbaz... Aka the most mentally unbalanced individual to ever be put in the house.
And also one of the rare instances of actual bullying (not, oh she called me a name...etc etc) that we have seen on the show..
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:53 PM
What do you mean it's not your thought? that makes no sense.
What did Helen do that was so mean to Harry? she was asked directly by Big Brother to give the reasons all four of them had nominated her, to which Nikki nodded along signifying that she agreed with everything she was saying.
Nikki wasn't exactly nice about Harry either, but of course we'll let that one slide.
you are moaning and crying about how everything Helen does she gets judged which is so not true..Helen only gets judged for the vile things she has done. The way Helen treated Harry afterwards coming from others people point of view she made her feel isolated.. yeah that's so innocent :thumbs:
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:54 PM
Is the only defence of Nikki's behaviour that others have been worse? You said that Nikki's time in BB is evidence of why she's so popular, so what's your actual opinion on the times that she was indeed very nasty?
It's wrong to single out Nikki as the only culprit for bullying Shahbaz and being ignorant to Sam (transgender issues were not as prevalent 9 years ago mind) when almost everyone was doing it. Nikki is only crucified for it because she is so popular.
Nikki was the most entertaining housemate in BB7 but Aisleyne was my all round favourite.
reece(:
15-06-2015, 04:54 PM
Let's not do the most on her, if she went and had a row with him and called him out she'd be lambasted for that either way too.
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:54 PM
That's honestly ridiculous.
When has Nikki ever told anyone to die? When has she ever branded someone 'Slugworth' because of their appearance? When has she ever victimised someone using their sexuality?
Helen is hated for a reason and you must be blind not to see that.
Lmao, everything you just mentioned Helen doing has been done by people on here and people all over the internet everywhere for years, Helen didn't do anything that most people have done themselves, also, she didn't victimise Matthew - which I'm assuming is what you're eluding to- with his sexuality, him and Toya were the ones attacking her first, bringing her past up as an insult, getting extremely personal, so why shouldn't she fire back with something just as personal? swings and roundabouts.
I'm not blind either tyvm.
Tom4784
15-06-2015, 04:54 PM
Compare Nikki's behaivior to Helen if Nikki starts abusing people and calls Jack a fat bastard or something because the only person to abuse Jack using his weight is....oh....Helen.
Nikki doesn't like Jack and she's taking him down in the best way possible. It's not mean, it's not cruel and it's not abusive. She is barely doing anything, it's Jack's ego that's doing all the work.
It's ridiculous to think that Nikki is in anyway shape of form comparable to Helen.
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:55 PM
Compare Nikki's behaivior to Helen if Nikki starts abusing people and calls Jack a fat bastard or something because the only person to abuse Jack using his weight is....oh....Helen.
Nikki doesn't like Jack and she's taking him down in the best way possible. It's not mean, it's not cruel and it's not abusive. She is barely doing anything, it's Jack's ego that's doing all the work.
It's ridiculous to think that Nikki is in anyway shape of form comparable to Helen.
Preach the truth
reece(:
15-06-2015, 04:55 PM
Compare Nikki's behaivior to Helen if Nikki starts abusing people and calls Jack a fat bastard or something because the only person to abuse Jack using his weight is....oh....Helen.
Nikki doesn't like Jack and she's taking him down in the best way possible. It's not mean, it's not cruel and it's not abusive. She is barely doing anything, it's Jack's ego that's doing all the work.
It's ridiculous to think that Nikki is in anyway shape of form comparable to Helen.
It is a true case of reaching :clap1:
LukeB
15-06-2015, 04:55 PM
Compare Nikki's behaivior to Helen if Nikki starts abusing people and calls Jack a fat bastard or something because the only person to abuse Jack using his weight is....oh....Helen.
Nikki doesn't like Jack and she's taking him down in the best way possible. It's not mean, it's not cruel and it's not abusive. She is barely doing anything, it's Jack's ego that's doing all the work.
It's ridiculous to think that Nikki is in anyway shape of form comparable to Helen.
:worship:
Tom4784
15-06-2015, 04:56 PM
Lmao, everything you just mentioned Helen doing has been done by people on here and people all over the internet everywhere for years, Helen didn't do anything that most people have done themselves, also, she didn't victimise Matthew - which I'm assuming is what you're eluding to- with his sexuality, him and Toya were the ones attacking her first, bringing her past up as an insult, getting extremely personal, so why shouldn't she fire back with something just as personal? swings and roundabouts.
I'm not blind either tyvm.
Deflection and poor reasoning. Helen is a vicious bitch and as a fan you should own that because it's completely hypocritical to lambast Nikki and then defend Helen in the same breath.
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:56 PM
you are moaning and crying about how everything Helen does she gets judged which is so not true..Helen only gets judged for the vile things she has done. The way Helen treated Harry afterwards coming from others people point of view she made her feel isolated.. yeah that's so innocent :thumbs:
I love Harry, but if she wants to isolate herself from everyone because a few people nominated her, then that's her fault, no-one is making her isolated.. unlike Nikki in BB7 who actively partook in isolating someone :hee:
Pete.
15-06-2015, 04:57 PM
I love Harry, but if she wants to isolate herself from everyone because a few people nominated her, then that's her fault, no-one is making her isolated.. unlike Nikki in BB7 who actively partook in isolating someone :hee:
Along with 10 others?
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:57 PM
Deflection and poor reasoning. Helen is a vicious bitch and as a fan you should own that because it's completely hypocritical to lambast Nikki and then defend Helen in the same breath.
It's also hypocritical of you to do the opposite then if you want to play that game, but okay.
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 04:58 PM
Is the only defence of Nikki's behaviour that others have been worse?
Have you been following this thread? Other people have brought up Helen as someone who if she did this would be subject to widespread criticism. That's why people are posting about what Helen has done and how much worse it was.
You said that Nikki's time in BB is evidence of why she's so popular, so what's your actual opinion on the times that she was indeed very nasty?
She's been funny, unique, clever and just generally amusing.
But seriously now, these threads are going round in circles. We know some people hate Nikki more than they like laughter, and I think it's a crying shame.
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 04:58 PM
It's wrong to single out Nikki as the only culprit for bullying Shahbaz
Nobody singled out Nikki as the only culprit, though. :conf:
She was one of them, and this discussion happens to be about Nikki and her nasty traits, so her role in Shahbaz's bullying (which you still haven't actually properly addressed) will naturally come up.
and being ignorant to Sam (transgender issues were not as prevalent 9 years ago mind)
No excuse to say "manbeast" (though she did express regret at this so I don't hold it against her as much).
Nikki is only crucified for it because she is so popular..
Oh, the opposite is true. Nikki's role is widely forgotten / glossed over because of her popularity. She's not as all "crucified for it", far from it.
Liam-
15-06-2015, 04:58 PM
Along with 10 others?
Yes?.. who this time has physically taken it upon themselves to isolate Harry?.. in the clips from last night she was sat right where Helen was, so it's obviously not her.
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 04:59 PM
It's also hypocritical of you to do the opposite then if you want to play that game, but okay.
It's not, because Helen picks on the weak and innocent for no good reason. Nikki has a bit of fun with an inflated ego.
Tom4784
15-06-2015, 05:00 PM
It's also hypocritical of you to do the opposite then if you want to play that game, but okay.
'I know you are but what am I?' is what you're basically saying.
Do try harder, I've explained why Nikki is different to Helen, you're just repeating what I'm saying without the context. You are reaching.
Liam-
15-06-2015, 05:00 PM
I can't remember anyone trying to compare Helen and Nikki? I haven't seen anyone say they're just as bad as each other, just that what Nikki has done, along with her track record, doesn't fit the whole 'sweetness and light miss innocent, butter couldn't melt' routine.
LukeB
15-06-2015, 05:01 PM
Nikki such a queen
:love: Princess Nikki (you should watch that on youtube it's hilarious)
Vicky.
15-06-2015, 05:01 PM
Along with 10 others?
The group mentality that year was absolutely shocking. Even saint Pete had a part in it
I remember Nikki saying something along the lines of 'lets hide his clothes, that will hurt him more' with a manic grin on her face.
However, Nikki appears to have grown up a lot. I really disliked her back then..I don't mind her now. As I have said I find this both cruel but funny at the same time. Helen on the other hand is just as vicious as ever. She doesn't try to hide it either and seems proud :umm2:
Pete.
15-06-2015, 05:02 PM
Nobody singled out Nikki as the only culprit, though. :conf:
She was one of them, and this discussion happens to be about Nikki and her nasty traits, so her role in Shahbaz's bullying (which you still haven't actually properly addressed) will naturally come up.
I felt Liam alluded at it despite Richard being his BB7 fave (I love Richard but he was awful in week 1)
RE Shahbaz I don't think Nikki had a problem with him but she went along with the crowd which is bad don't get me wrong but again nearly everyone did it
Pete.
15-06-2015, 05:02 PM
The group mentality that year was absolutely shocking. Even saint Pete had a part in it
Pete was the only one who treated Shahbaz as a human :love:
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 05:03 PM
I can't remember anyone trying to compare Helen and Nikki? I haven't seen anyone say they're just as bad as each other, just that what Nikki has done, along with her track record, doesn't fit the whole 'sweetness and light miss innocent, butter couldn't melt' routine.
Who ever said Nikki was sweetness and light or miss innocent? Everyone knows she's a total diva
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 05:03 PM
I felt Liam alluded at it despite Richard being his BB7 fave (I love Richard but he was awful in week 1)
RE Shahbaz I don't think Nikki had a problem with him but she went along with the crowd which is bad don't get me wrong but again nearly everyone did it
Yes, because Shahbaz was quite literally insane. He needed to be removed from the house for the safety of others.
Vicky.
15-06-2015, 05:04 PM
Pete was the only one who treated Shahbaz as a human :love:
He never stood up for him at first though, which tbh made him nearly as bad as the ones actively trying to hurt him :S
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 05:04 PM
Have you been following this thread? Other people have brought up Helen as someone who if she did this would be subject to widespread criticism. That's why people are posting about what Helen has done and how much worse it was.
Yes, I have. The post I was quoting was responding to a post specifically highlighting Nikki's nasty moments in BB7, hence why I'd expect a "defence" of her to actually consist of more than "Helen was worse".
She's been funny, unique, clever and just generally amusing.
But seriously now, these threads are going round in circles. We know some people hate Nikki more than they like laughter, and I think it's a crying shame.
She's also been spiteful and malicious, but let's forget all about that because she happens to be funny at other times.
Liam-
15-06-2015, 05:06 PM
I felt Liam alluded at it despite Richard being his BB7 fave (I love Richard but he was awful in week 1)
The difference being, if i can't find a reason to excuse my favourites behavious, i don't excuse it, no matter how much I like them
bbfan1991
15-06-2015, 05:06 PM
Where as I loathed everything about Aisleyne, her personality, her fake ghetto black girl wannabe act. Granted she was a good housemate, but I found her very overrated. She's not a BB legend, but she did have an impact.
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 05:06 PM
I felt Liam alluded at it despite Richard being his BB7 fave (I love Richard but he was awful in week 1)
RE Shahbaz I don't think Nikki had a problem with him but she went along with the crowd which is bad don't get me wrong but again nearly everyone did it
I do agree that everyone involved were as bad as each other, I don't at all think Nikki was any worse. My problem is that she wasn't any better either, and the amount of glee she took out of the nastiness really stuck out too.
Macie Lightfoot
15-06-2015, 05:06 PM
Nikki kinda sucks sometimes and Helen really sucks all the time, idk what there is to debate about :shrug:
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 05:08 PM
Yes, I have. The post I was quoting was responding to a post specifically highlighting Nikki's nasty moments in BB7, hence why I'd expect a "defence" of her to actually consist of more than "Helen was worse".
She's also been spiteful and malicious, but let's forget all about that because she happens to be funny at other times.
Spiteful and malicious. :laugh:
Amy Jade
15-06-2015, 05:08 PM
I don't like Jack but idk I think she's being a bit mean convincing him he's loved and he's going to find out he's not, I mean if put myself in his position he's in now I'd be gutted to get boos.
Although I can't say I'd be deluded enough to believe I was popular
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 05:09 PM
Spiteful and malicious. :laugh:
Yes. :joker:
If specifically saying you want to do something to "hurt him more" isn't malicious, I've no idea what is.
bbfan1991
15-06-2015, 05:09 PM
Jack has put himself in that position though...
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 05:09 PM
I do agree that everyone involved were as bad as each other, I don't at all think Nikki was any worse. My problem is that she wasn't any better either, and the amount of glee she took out of the nastiness really stuck out too.
Do you ever consider what it was actually like to live with Shahbaz? It doesn't justify it, but seriously... Some people are so determined to make a victim out of people, they don't care how unbelievably irritating a person is and the possibility that they really did bring their own isolation on themselves (unlike Harry)
Jack_
15-06-2015, 05:10 PM
This is quite spiteful but it is funny
The main point here though is that the hatred for Jack from both the legends and the fans is completely over the top and unjustified. He really isn't that bad a housemate. Especially when Cristian exists
Vicky.
15-06-2015, 05:11 PM
I don't like Jack but idk I think she's being a bit mean convincing him he's loved and he's going to find out he's not, I mean if put myself in his position he's in now I'd be gutted to get boos.
Although I can't say I'd be deluded enough to believe I was popular
Being voted the winner in the first (?) week...I can see why hes so full of himself. However, he should know the BB audience is fickle as ****..and rarely do early faves remain popular
andybigbro
15-06-2015, 05:12 PM
I find it funny. He's a little bitch so if he can dish it out he deserves some humiliation. The funny thing is he believes it, most people might just shrug it off but he tries to own it because he thinks he sooo popular.
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 05:12 PM
Do you ever consider what it was actually like to live with Shahbaz? It doesn't justify it, but seriously... Some people are so determined to make a victim out of people, they don't care how unbelievably irritating a person is and the possibility that they really did bring their own isolation on themselves (unlike Harry)
Actually, I've never disputed that Shahbaz was clearly difficult to live with and not at all fit to be in there.
That changes nothing about the fact (and I believe it is a fact) that the others were awful in how they reacted.
Rustic bauble
15-06-2015, 05:12 PM
Maybe Nikki will tell him she was only joking....
She's just having fun with the arrogant cocky idiot....people on here are taking things far too seriously....
bbfan1991
15-06-2015, 05:12 PM
Being voted the winner in the first (?) week...I can see why hes so full of himself. However, he should know the BB audience is fickle as ****..and rarely do early faves remain popular
Pete, Glyn, Josie.
Pete.
15-06-2015, 05:12 PM
9 pages
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Tom4784
15-06-2015, 05:12 PM
I don't like Jack but idk I think she's being a bit mean convincing him he's loved and he's going to find out he's not, I mean if put myself in his position he's in now I'd be gutted to get boos.
Although I can't say I'd be deluded enough to believe I was popular
It's his choice to believe though, I think a normal person would be suspicious of anything Nikki had to say if they saw her slating him in a VT but his own arrogance won't allow him to see the forest for the trees.
Suggestion means nothing if someone doesn't believe it. She's taking him down in the right way. It's better to let someone be the architect of their own destruction than to victimise them ad nauseum aka the Helen method.
Vicky.
15-06-2015, 05:13 PM
Pete, Glyn, Josie.
3 of 15. We have the likes of Wolfy, Pauline and such now :p
Also I don't think Josie was that popular, just BB removed her only competition for the final, leaving her against total dullards.
Headie
15-06-2015, 05:13 PM
I dread to think how you'd all react to BBUSA if y'all are crying over one lie being told :joker:
LukeB
15-06-2015, 05:14 PM
Being voted the winner in the first (?) week...I can see why hes so full of himself. However, he should know the BB audience is fickle as ****..and rarely do early faves remain popular
He clearly doesn't have any idea about BB.
1.He must have forgot all about Wolfy
2.If Nikki told me about twitter I will know it's a lie. C5 housemates don't even reach 200k :joker:
Kazanne
15-06-2015, 05:14 PM
It's not, because Helen picks on the weak and innocent for no good reason. Nikki has a bit of fun with an inflated ego.
Who has Helen picked on that is weak and innocent?
Cherry Christmas
15-06-2015, 05:14 PM
Jack has put himself in that position though...
No the public did, by applauding him going in, and making him a winner on Day 3... He probably thinks his behaviour is unchanged and it probably hasn't,just the highlights are not edited in his favour now, Danny thinks he is in with a shout as well
It's not, because Helen picks on the weak and innocent for no good reason. Nikki has a bit of fun with an inflated ego.
An ego Nikki decided to further inflate for her own fun in the first place which makes her 10 times worse surely. Nikki has a cruel streak no matter how she is painted. She should have explained to Jack later that it was just a bit of fun rather than take it that little bit too far.
Pete.
15-06-2015, 05:15 PM
Yes, because Shahbaz was quite literally insane. He needed to be removed from the house for the safety of others.
I didn't like Shahbaz but he didn't deserve to be bullied especially in his mental condition
He never stood up for him at first though, which tbh made him nearly as bad as the ones actively trying to hurt him :S
I guess, I've never looked at it like that
Pete.
15-06-2015, 05:15 PM
I dread to think how you'd all react to BBUSA if y'all are crying over one lie being told :joker:
Truth
LukeB
15-06-2015, 05:15 PM
I dread to think how you'd all react to BBUSA if y'all are crying over one lie being told :joker:
Good point!
HOH must be nasty then for getting others hopes up
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 05:16 PM
Who has Helen picked on that is weak and innocent?
She started calling Jale a slug on the first night she entered.
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 05:16 PM
An ego Nikki decided to further inflate for her own fun in the first place which makes her 10 times worse surely. Nikki has a cruel streak no matter how she is painted.
Spot on. :)
bbfan1991
15-06-2015, 05:16 PM
It's his choice to believe though, I think a normal person would be suspicious of anything Nikki had to say if they saw her slating him in a VT but his own arrogance won't allow him to see the forest for the trees.
Suggestion means nothing if someone doesn't believe it. She's taking him down in the right way. It's better to let someone be the architect of their own destruction than to victimise them ad nauseum aka the Helen method.
I agree. Nikki is being smart in letting Jack dig that hole for himself just that little bit further, he's so full of himself and arrogant, it will be one hell of a shock when he is turfed out of there just like it happened to Ms Smug Cookie Kathreya from BB9.
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 05:17 PM
An ego Nikki decided to further inflate for her own fun in the first place which makes her 10 times worse surely.
Which could only happen if his ego was so big already he actually believed it.
Nikki has a cruel streak no matter how she is painted.
Every human being has a cruel streak. And a good joke is always at somebody's expense. Humourless people may not understand that.
jackc1806
15-06-2015, 05:18 PM
Jack is literally one of the worst HMs ever so good
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 05:19 PM
Which could only happen if his ego was so big already he actually believed it.
Every human being has a cruel streak. And a good joke is always at somebody's expense. Humourless people may not understand that.
Ah, the old "If you don't find the same things as me funny, you have no sense of humour" chestnut. :)
Amy Jade
15-06-2015, 05:20 PM
It's his choice to believe though, I think a normal person would be suspicious of anything Nikki had to say if they saw her slating him in a VT but his own arrogance won't allow him to see the forest for the trees.
Suggestion means nothing if someone doesn't believe it. She's taking him down in the right way. It's better to let someone be the architect of their own destruction than to victimise them ad nauseum aka the Helen method.
While I agree sort of she's feeding his ego by pretending he's hugely popular just to embarress him which I thinks a bit mean seeing as he has a good reason to believe her. He won after a week and he's been told by the 'legends' and Marc he has fans.
As I said though he is deluded but I still think it's a little mean spirited.
Dollface
15-06-2015, 05:21 PM
Which could only happen if his ego was so big already he actually believed it.
Every human being has a cruel streak. And a good joke is always at somebody's expense. Humourless people may not understand that.
I don't find "jokes" that cause humiliation for other people funny or good, if that means i'm humourless then so be it. :)
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 05:21 PM
Ah, the old "If you don't find the same things as me funny, you have no sense of humour" chestnut. :)
It's just well known that all good jokes are at someone's expense. If that makes you uncomfortable you probably are a bit humourless.
Which could only happen if his ego was so big already he actually believed it.
Every human being has a cruel streak. And a good joke is always at somebody's expense. Humourless people may not understand that.
They all have ego's in there or they wouldn't be there in the first place, Nikki's ego is the biggest and I doubt she would see the funny side if the roles were reversed.
No I don't agree that everyone has that cruel streak, but let's say you are right there, then some are worse than others and others know when not to take it too far. And if that humourless aside is a dig at me, you are far from the truth there. I like to believe my moral compass and compasionate side makes me know when a line needs to be drawn.
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 05:22 PM
I don't find "jokes" that cause humiliation for other people funny or good, if that means i'm humourless then so be it. :)
Okay. It does.
bbfan1991
15-06-2015, 05:22 PM
Jack enjoyed rubbing it in when Simon got boos, he'll get a taste of what it was like soon.
LukeB
15-06-2015, 05:23 PM
I don't find "jokes" that cause humiliation for other people funny or good, if that means i'm humourless then so be it. :)
Jack didn't need Nikki to make him look humiliated tbh :laugh:
Lostie!
15-06-2015, 05:23 PM
I don't find "jokes" that cause humiliation for other people funny or good, if that means i'm humourless then so be it. :)
I assume "having a sense of humour" is the new euphemism for being callous. :laugh:
Jack didn't need Nikki to make him look humiliated tbh :laugh:
Which changes nothing about the fact that she indeed played her part. :)
Dollface
15-06-2015, 05:23 PM
Okay. It does.
That's good then, I'd take my sense of humour over yours any day.
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 05:24 PM
No I don't agree that everyone has that cruel streak
There really are angels in this world! Praise the Lord
but let's say you are right there, then some are worse than others and others know when not to take it too far. And if that humourless aside is a dig at me, you are far from the truth there. I like to believe my moral compass and compasionate side makes me know when a line needs to be drawn.
Yes, and I don't think telling a guy he has 200k followers on twitter and watching him believe it can be regarded as taking it too far unless your moral compass is bent out of shape.
Amy Jade
15-06-2015, 05:24 PM
idk why I'm standing up for him, I hope he starts being arrogant, could save Harry.
Although I doubt she can be saved she's commited the cardinal sin of being body confident.
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 05:24 PM
Nikki's reaction to this thread
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/sites/default/files/nikki.jpg
Kazanne
15-06-2015, 05:24 PM
She started calling Jale a slug on the first night she entered.
I know that wasn't the question?
Dollface
15-06-2015, 05:25 PM
Jack didn't need Nikki to make him look humiliated tbh :laugh:
You keep saying that, as if that makes what Nikki is doing any less mean... It doesn't, Nikki is being cruel and if you think it's funny then ok that's your sense of humour, but it's still cruel.
Tom4784
15-06-2015, 05:25 PM
While I agree sort of she's feeding his ego by pretending he's hugely popular just to embarress him which I thinks a bit mean seeing as he has a good reason to believe her. He won after a week and he's been told by the 'legends' and Marc he has fans.
As I said though he is deluded but I still think it's a little mean spirited.
Better that then what Helen would have done.
It's just a little lie at the end of the day, if she started throwing abuse at him then I'd say that she was in the wrong but she's handling the situation in the right way. She's not being confrontational, she's not doing anything to make him feel bad since it's his own actions that will lead to his undoing.
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 05:25 PM
I know that wasn't the question?
Eh?
Dollface
15-06-2015, 05:27 PM
idk why I'm standing up for him, I hope he starts being arrogant, could save Harry.
Although I doubt she can be saved she's commited the cardinal sin of being body confident.
:worship:
I'm not even standing up for him tbh, I just think Nikki is showing her nasty side and I don't think it's funny what she's doing to Jack, regardless of if I like him or not.
reece(:
15-06-2015, 05:27 PM
:love: Princess Nikki (you should watch that on youtube it's hilarious)
It's so good :laugh: when she fumed with production and wanted to quit the show :joker:
idk why I'm standing up for him, I hope he starts being arrogant, could save Harry.
Although I doubt she can be saved she's commited the cardinal sin of being body confident.
I think there will be a lot as seeing it that Nikki took her Joke too far and they will feel bad for Jack whether they like him or not and if he's up that could well save him. So Nikki's spitefulness in not coming clean to him after a while will probably work in Jack's favour if he is indeed up for the vote this week.
Dollface
15-06-2015, 05:29 PM
I think there will be a lot as seeing it that Nikki took her Joke too far and they will feel bad for Jack whether they like him or not and if he's up that could well save him. So nikki's spitefulness in not coming clean to him after a while will probably work in Jack's favour if he is indeed up for the vote this week.
Yeah, I could see that happening.
Sadly I think Harry is gone.
reece(:
15-06-2015, 05:29 PM
I dread to think how you'd all react to BBUSA if y'all are crying over one lie being told :joker:
It's exaggerated to swerve the hate from Hell
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 05:29 PM
Nikki is probably going to save Harry. Jack being evicted would be so much more entertaining and the public will recognize that the more he believes his own hype
reece(:
15-06-2015, 05:30 PM
How would those that have a problem with this "lie" rather she went about it? Be mean and spiteful to him in a war or words or what? She's been brought in to spice the show up and she's earning her fee.
chuff me dizzy
15-06-2015, 05:31 PM
Jack enjoyed rubbing it in when Simon got boos, he'll get a taste of what it was like soon.
Hope its this Friday !! :dance: I think they will be another nomination tonight ,they will want to open the phone lines soon
Cherry Christmas
15-06-2015, 05:33 PM
They all have ego's in there or they wouldn't be there in the first place, Nikki's ego is the biggest and I doubt she would see the funny side if the roles were reversed.
No I don't agree that everyone has that cruel streak, but let's say you are right there, then some are worse than others and others know when not to take it too far. And if that humourless aside is a dig at me, you are far from the truth there. I like to believe my moral compass and compasionate side makes me know when a line needs to be drawn.
:clap1:
Jamesy
15-06-2015, 05:33 PM
Brilliant!
No doubt they will nominate Jack anyway and if the crowd have sense they will boo him to hell, priceless television coming soon...
Then even if Harry goes this week the boos from the crowd will result in Jack being nominated by all next week. :D
LukeB
15-06-2015, 05:34 PM
You keep saying that, as if that makes what Nikki is doing any less mean... It doesn't, Nikki is being cruel and if you think it's funny then ok that's your sense of humour, but it's still cruel.
But if Jack is humiliated then it's not Nikki's fault. She is lying but Jack already thinks all of this. No one likes an arrogant cocky idiot do they?. It may look cruel but it's his own fault if he is shocked by those boos and looks like a fool. Nikki is not making him believe anything he doesn't think himself.
Beetlejuice
15-06-2015, 05:34 PM
But if Jack is humiliated then it's not Nikki's fault. She is lying but Jack already thinks all of this. No one likes an arrogant cocky idiot do they?. It may look cruel but it's his own fault if he is shocked by those boos and looks like a fool. Nikki is not making him believe anything he doesn't think himself.
Yes, Jack is just learning a lesson about hubris
LukeB
15-06-2015, 05:35 PM
It's so good :laugh: when she fumed with production and wanted to quit the show :joker:
I've just watched chip shop episode and the hotel drama it made me laugh so much :joker:
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