Selection of marcs tweets

[Wizard.]

Can you please name one example where the word may be used publicly but excused given the correct context? (Excused as in the word being inoffensive to everybody ever).

So using your way of thinking Nikki saying faghag is okay?

[nonstop]

Disgusting. Marc has no shame.

[Withano]

I did. No homophobia whatsoever in it.

If you want to call that homophobic then danny's tweets calling people "gayboy" will have you beside yourself.

If Marc murdered a man and Danny murdered two, you would defend Marc! Your posts nearly always say something along the lines of "it's okay because Danny did it worse".. tonight they were anyway... The rational conclusion that everybody seems to have made from the tweets (excluding you) is that they are both disgusting.

[nonstop]

Again, "I'm not racist, some of my best friends are black" logic

100%

[Withano]

So using your way of thinking Nikki saying faghag is okay?

No, obviously the complete opposite how the **** did you jump to that conclusion!

[ThriceShy]

If Marc murdered a man and Danny murdered two, you would defend Marc! Your posts nearly always say something along the lines of "it's okay because Danny did it worse".. tonight they were anyway... The rational conclusion that everybody seems to have made from the tweets (excluding you) is that they are both disgusting.



I see nothing homophobic in that tweet. Absolutely nothing.

Can you describe to me exactly how that tweet is homophobic? Use long words, I can handle it.

[ThriceShy]

No, obviously the complete opposite how the **** did you jump to that conclusion!

Are you saying Nikki is homophobic then?

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm not turning this into a debate about homophobia but I ask why? People should stop feeling sorry for themselves being in a minority group and ignore the abuse. Idgaf

It's not about feeling sorry for themselves, it's a matter of respect. Instead of acting like people should have thicker skin, people should just not use that word :shrug:

Its nowhere near the same thing. Not even close...

Comparable would be using the N word to describe your black friend to their face (something LOTS of white people do) as both that word and *******ot have been reclaimed by the very people it was used against

If you want to get into why then we can but the two words (assuming you are referencing the N word) have totally different social contexts.

I didn't mention anything involving the n-word. I'm just pointing out that your logic that Marc can't even possibly be homophobic because he was friends with the gay guy in the house is the same as saying that someone can't possibly be racist because they have a black friend.

[mimosveta]

I'm gay and my brothers call me a fa****t all the time and I find it funny, it can be used as abusive but it's BANTER

but he made damn sure to clarify his buddy isn't really gay, but he will be *** if he doesn't get there in time.

In this case word *** was clearly intended to be used as insult, even if jokingly, still an insult.

In Danny's case, tweet was unclear if friend is indeed gay and Danny's stating that (which is then okay) or he's straight and Danny's making similar illconceived "banter" as Marc does here.

[Lostie!]

I'm pretty sure he's not a homophobe (and I said the same about Danny FYI), especially considering he was good friends with Simon, but this is yet another dickish tweet to add to the ever-growing list of dickish tweets from those two.

[mimosveta]

I'm pretty sure he's not a homophobe (and I said the same about Danny FYI), especially considering he was good friends with Simon, but this is yet another dickish tweet to add to the ever-growing list of dickish tweets from those two.

true, they both should have just locked their accounts when entering the house.

[Ramsay]

it's all about context

[Lostie!]

true, they both should have just locked their accounts when entering the house.

Or even better, they both should be less dickish. :laugh:

[Liam-]

Imo people are way too sensitive about these sort of words, someone using these words does not make them homophobic, the context in which they are used makes the person homophobic and the words offensive.

And I said the exact same thing in the thread about Danny as well, before anyone jumped on the 'you'd defend Marc even if he killed someone blah blah blah' bandwagon.

[Withano]

I see nothing homophobic in that tweet. Absolutely nothing.

Can you describe to me exactly how that tweet is homophobic? Use long words, I can handle it.

Are you saying Nikki is homophobic then?

No, for clarity, I am not saying that Nikki is homophobic, Same goes with Danny and Marc.

Homophobia is a state of a mind in which a person dislikes all gay people and I have seen zero evidence that any of the three are guilty of this.

To answer your other question, it is obviously a homophobic slur, using it publicly is homophobic even if it is used to define a heterosexual friend who may or may not be a ****** depending on whether he did or he did not go to the local nightclub on that night (I mean obviously lol, think about it.)

In other words, the word is always homophobic but the person using it may not be.

[Spoon]

He clearly isn't homophobic, he was good friends with Simon. :idc:

"Some of his best friends are [fill in the group]!"

Never heard that one before.

Again, "I'm not racist, some of my best friends are black" logic

Exactly.

[reece(:]

At 29 years of age, you'd think a man would be educated... saying it for the sake of lad lingo or w.e he wants to defend it as is just as bad as saying it offensively.

and yes I do not approve of Nikki or whoever else saying these slurs either.

[ThriceShy]

No, for clarity, I am not saying that Nikki is homophobic, Same goes with Danny and Marc.

Homophobia is a state of a mind in which a person dislikes all gay people and I have seen zero evidence that any of the three are guilty of this.

To answer your other question, it is obviously a homophobic slur, using it publicly is homophobic even if it is used to define a heterosexual friend who may or may not be a ****** depending on whether he did or he did not go to the local nightclub on that night (I mean obviously lol, think about it.)

In other words, the word is always homophobic but the person using it may not be.

I really don't understand the underlined bit. The word is homophobic?

Makes no sense.

If you agree that neither Danny or Marc is a homophobe then why even bother dissecting their tweets.

[Withano]

I really don't understand the underlined bit. The word is homophobic?

Makes no sense.

If you agree that neither Danny or Marc is a homophobe then why even bother dissecting their tweets.

The word is a homophobic slur..

A homophobic slur is always homophobic.

Um.

[cookiemonster]

The word is a homophobic slur..

A homophobic slur is always homophobic.

Um.
yes the word is, but that doesn't mean that Marc is. i think the fact the only (?) gay person in this thread thinks that Marc wasn't being offensive says it all

just more people that need to go back to politically-correct-ville

[Lostie!]

"Some of his best friends are [fill in the group]!"

Never heard that one before.



Exactly.

But he was good friends with Simon, that's a fact fact.

Unless you subscribe to the "He was using Simon as an ally" theory, which makes very little logical sense considering he had very little to gain from befriending Simon when the whole house was against him (especially when he's taking the heat off Marc). And then there's the fact that Marc regularly says outrageous, controversial things, I'm sure any genuine bigotry against gay people would have come out in the house by now.

Saying a stupid word and genuinely hating gay people are two very different things.

[ThriceShy]

The word is a homophobic slur..

A homophobic slur is always homophobic.

Um.

No, by definition, a slur can only be homophobic if it is directed at a homosexual.

If I call my hetero mate a "******" during some banter then it isn't anyone's business, including gay people.

Why are people queuing up to be offended?

[Pete.]

No, by definition, a slur can only be homophobic if it is directed at a homosexual.

If I call my hetero mate a "******" during some banter then it isn't anyone's business, including gay people.

Why are people queuing up to be offended?
Not banter being used as an excuse

[reece(:]

Not banter being used as an excuse
:facepalm:

[mimosveta]

Or even better, they both should be less dickish. :laugh:

yeah, but I bet then they wouldn't even be in the house :joker:

[Withano]

yes the word is, but that doesn't mean that Marc is. i think the fact the only (?) gay person in this thread thinks that Marc wasn't being offensive says it all

just more people that need to go back to politically-correct-ville

I said a few posts up that Marc isn't homophobic, read the entire thread if you're gonna nitpick, saves me repeating myself.

The only gay person in a thread not being offended does not stop it from being offensive (If thats a joke? then hahaha, if not, then get a grip. Some words are offensive, individuals opinions will never matter.)

[ThriceShy]

Not banter being used as an excuse

What was danny's excuse for calling people "gayboys" on twitter? Was that banter or homophobia?

[Pete.]

What was danny's excuse for calling people "gayboys" on twitter? Was that banter or homophobia?
Homophobia lol defo not banter

[Withano]

No, by definition, a slur can only be homophobic if it is directed at a homosexual.

If I call my hetero mate a "******" during some banter then it isn't anyone's business, including gay people.

Why are people queuing up to be offended?

If you call your heterosexual mate a ****** because of banter, then you used a homophobic phrase to make a joke.
Excluding the fact that the joke in your example sounds like a put-down on all gay people, it would be homophobic regardless of whether or not this was your intent.
Your idea of homophobia is, to me, outdated, gross and inappropriate to say on a public forum. Some words are offensive, this is one of those words.

[LukeB]

Not banter being used as an excuse

I actually hate that word.

[Withano]

What was danny's excuse for calling people "gayboys" on twitter? Was that banter or homophobia?

"Its okay cos Danny did it worse"

[ThriceShy]

If you call your heterosexual mate a ****** because of banter, then you used a homophobic phrase to make a joke.
Excluding the fact that the joke in your example sounds like a put-down on all gay people, it would be homophobic regardless of whether or not this was your intent.
Your idea of homophobia is, to me, outdated, gross and inappropriate to say on a public forum. Some words are offensive, this is one of those words.

So you get to arbitrarily decide what words are homophobic and unacceptable.

I see gay people calling each other such words. Are they homophobic and unacceptable when gay people use them?

[ThriceShy]

"Its okay cos Danny did it worse"

That isn't what I said.

[Withano]

That isn't what I said.

hahaha yes it was, youve said it all night.

[mimosveta]

Imo people are way too sensitive about these sort of words, someone using these words does not make them homophobic, the context in which they are used makes the person homophobic and the words offensive.

And I said the exact same thing in the thread about Danny as well, before anyone jumped on the 'you'd defend Marc even if he killed someone blah blah blah' bandwagon.

So look at the context within the tweets, and try several words to see which ones could replace the problematic one :evilgrin:.

IF my friend doesn't get here in next 5 minutes, he's :evilgrin:

Try these, replace :evilgrin: with neutral word like "late", positive word like "batman", or negative word, such as "fu ckatard"

Which one do you think fits intended meaning best? So clearly he used the word :evilgrin: as an insult, and that's the context, the context is damning.

And I get it, he likes his friend, it's all banter, yadda yadda yadda, but if calling a some girl a manbeast is meant as insult, then all manbests are gonna be "hey, hang on a minute..."

Same goes for Danny's tweet, but in his case, it's unclear if his buddy is gay indeed. If he is gay, then Danny called him gay, which he is, no harm done. But if his friend is being called :evilgrin: as an insult for not giving him a call, despite actually being straight, well then, if it's used as an insult, then Danny clearly thinks it's insulting to be gay.

[arney]

Marc is guilty of Homophobia now then? Marc would be the first person to watch Danny & Christen get it on, and not care, also ask Christen in the morning how was it last night with Daddy Danny?

[ThriceShy]

hahaha yes it was, youve said it all night.

That would make sense if I was a fan of marc but I'm not.

I don't like either of them. But seeing that Danny is worse is obvious to all neutral observers.

[Withano]

So you get to arbitrarily decide what words are homophobic and unacceptable.

I see gay people calling each other such words. Are they homophobic and unacceptable when gay people use them?

no the dictionary and common opinion does.

The fact that you disagree is so ****ing gross.

Out of interest if we swapped out the homophobic slur for the N word, would you defend it if others called it a racist tweet?

[BB1984]

Marc called himself a homosexual a few nights ago.
Would homophobic people use it about theirselves?

OP is clutching at straws, Marc would probably be least offended by sexual preferences. I think he has done striping in gay bars in Dublin also.

[Pete.]

Marc called himself a homosexual a few nights ago.
Would homophobic people use it about theirselves?

OP is clutching at straws, Marc would probably be least offended by sexual preferences. I think he has done striping in gay bars in Dublin also.
Before you call me sad no i didn't find them myself

Im just posting facts

[ThriceShy]

no the dictionary and common opinion does.

The fact that you disagree is so ****ing gross.

Out of interest if we swapped out the homophobic slur for the N word, would you defend it if others called it a racist tweet?

Well, I am one of the people who think Emily's ejection was disgraceful. So take what you want from that.

Let me ask you this:

If a black rapper releases a record with the N word in it. Why shouldn't I, as a white person, sing it?

Do you get to tell me what songs I can sing now?

[Withano]

Well, I am one of the people who think Emily's ejection was disgraceful. So take what you want from that.

Let me ask you this:

If a black rapper releases a record with the N word in it. Why shouldn't I, as a white person, sing it?

Do you get to tell me what songs I can sing now?

Honestly, I think this is enough to get your ban.
Racism and homophobia is never okay, to use racist or homophobic slurs is never okay.

It is a disgrace that you disagree and you are willing to publicly share it on a forum.

[ThriceShy]

Honestly, I think this is enough to get your ban.
Racism and homophobia is never okay, to use racist or homophobic slurs is never okay.

It is a disgrace that you disagree and you are willing to publicly share it on a forum.

I haven't said anything of the kind.

The fact you want to "get my ban" speaks volumes though.

I think Emily's ejection was a disgrace. As do many people.

I hate the way people queue up to take offence at the slightest thing.

I don't view Marc's tweet as homophobic. I don't view danny's that way either. If you think that I should be banned for that then quite frankly I think you are getting hysterical.

Just put me on ignore if you don't want to read my posts. If it makes it easier for you then I will ignore you.

[Withano]

I haven't said anything of the kind.

The fact you want to "get my ban" speaks volumes though.

I think Emily's ejection was a disgrace. As do many people.

I hate the way people queue up to take offence at the slightest thing.

I don't view Marc's tweet as homophobic. I don't view danny's that way either. If you think that I should be banned for that then quite frankly I think you are getting hysterical.

Just put me on ignore if you don't want to read my posts. If it makes it easier for you then I will ignore you.

Um. I asked you how you would have felt if Marc used the N word, and you defended both yours and Emilys right to use it freely.
This is simply disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself.

[ThriceShy]

Um. I asked you how you would have felt if Marc used the N word, and you defended both yours and Emilys right to use it freely.
This is simply disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Please stop lying.

I asked you if it is wrong for me to sing a commercial released song with the N word in it. Is it wrong?

And while we are about it, are the words you deem homophobic still homophobic when gay people use them?

If the questions are too difficult then please feel free to put me on ignore.

If you can't then say the word and I will put you on my ignore list and I will actually stick to it and not read your posts.

I don't know why you are getting so stressed over this and trying to get me banned.:shrug:

[BB1984]

Um. I asked you how you would have felt if Marc used the N word, and you defended both yours and Emilys right to use it freely.
This is simply disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself.

He/she was talking about a rap song...Are rap songs racist now?

[ThriceShy]

Emily sang a song. That is all she did.

If people can release songs with those words in then throwing someone out of a BB house at 3am for singing the song is utterly ludicrous.

Yes, they were very sensitive about it after the shilpa race row but I thought emily was treated abysmally.

I also believe is these racist and homophobic words are so terrible then black and gay people should not be saying them.

[mimosveta]

Honestly, I think this is enough to get your ban.
Racism and homophobia is never okay, to use racist or homophobic slurs is never okay.

It is a disgrace that you disagree and you are willing to publicly share it on a forum.

but he kinda failed to use either racial, or homophobic slur in his post so no grounds for ban I think. He also seems to be fond of both gays and other races, just thinks he can call them same as they call them selves.

One of my gay friends is very adamant that usage of homophobic slur is best thing ever - I'm from regressive country, lots of homophobes here, and they actually beat people up, full on assaults in public when they know the person is gay, every gay pride ended in blood except for last one, where they actually didn't update anyone there'd be a gay pride walk, on wendsday in 11 am when all the HP were at work ><

Anyway, my friend tells me when someone uses slur he knows to be careful in front of that person he'd rather be "slured" at, then be beaten up.

In normal countries that argument is pretty much removed, but there you have it, lots of it depends on lots of it. It's way more important for people to be acceptant of the fact that not everyone is like them, then to use pre-approved nouns in given circumstances. Like how you don't use slur but are very judgy of him for having different opinion to yours :shrug:

As far as I'm concerned, I'm pretty sure that in 50 years time we'll have completely different set of forbidden words while these will be back in regular usage but it is a good idea to stay away from them for now. After all blacks have been first enslaved then discriminated against for way too long (someplaces even today), I don't think it's that much of a problem for whites to give them the right to discriminate by usage of that word (we can use it, but you can't) for a while. Just as long as we don't get to feel like equals again. One more time, whites killed, raped, enslaved, burned, tortured, and discriminated against black, and blacks are asking whites not to use one word. And same logic applies to gays, feminists, atheists, and whoever else is being discriminated against.

Come on. Anyone can do it.

[ThriceShy]

I am concerned at why withano is so keen to get me banned.

It is all rather odd. Almost as if I am besting him in debates.

[Withano]

Please stop lying.

I asked you if it is wrong for me to sing a commercial released song with the N word in it. Is it wrong?
ask yourself the same question, I was more concerned at you defending Emily and then asking this question.. It seemed like you gave a horrid opinion with a question, please correct me now if I'm wrong.. What is your answer to this question

And while we are about it, are the words you deem homophobic still homophobic when gay people use them?
the dictionary and common opinion deem them as homophobic, the fact that you do not is a disgrace. It will always be a homophobic word, the person who uses it is not necessarily a homophobe, we've been through this, keep up.

If the questions are too difficult then please feel free to put me on ignore.
The ignore button is ridiculous, it does nothing! I can still see all of your posts if you quote me

If you can't then say the word and I will put you on my ignore list and I will actually stick to it and not read your posts.
please do

I don't know why you are getting so stressed over this and trying to get me banned.:shrug:
I want you banned because reading through this thread, it seems like you take racist and homophobic slurs very lightly, not dissimilar to a racist or a homophobic person, not that I'm accusing you of any such thing of course. If you tell me now that you disagree with homophobic slurs and racist slurs in every single context, then I will ignore your contradiction and accept that you do not deserve a ban but in this thread, you have not come across as a person who disagrees with the use of words which are widely only used to cause offence to other peoples based on their genetics..

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[Beetlejuice]

And racist too...

https://twitter.com/OnceBBFan/status/616316331923767296/photo/1

[Pete.]

And racist too...

https://twitter.com/OnceBBFan/status/616316331923767296/photo/1
nnn

[ThriceShy]

And racist too...

https://twitter.com/OnceBBFan/status/616316331923767296/photo/1

Why are we digging up 2 year old tweets?

[mimosveta]

Why are we digging up 2 year old tweets?

it's funny, cause they are really hard to find using advanced search (so far I haven't managed to find not one of them, both for Marc and Danny, and all we see are pictures, rather than links - are any of them even real?)

[Beetlejuice]

it's funny, cause they are really hard to find using advanced search (so far I haven't managed to find not one of them, both for Marc and Danny, and all we see are pictures, rather than links - are any of them even real?)

It wouldn't surprise me if they aren't. Though I did just provide a link myself I find it all rather distasteful. But Marc's fans did start doing all this so it was bound to escalate. Helen seems to do a lot of this sort of thing as well I've noticed.

[ThriceShy]

It wouldn't surprise me if they aren't. Though I did just provide a link myself I find it all rather distasteful. But Marc's fans did start doing all this so it was bound to escalate. Helen seems to do a lot of this sort of thing as well I've noticed.

Problem is though that nothing really nasty has been found on marc. Danny's stuff is in a different league IMO.

The tweet in my sig was this year and is outrageous,

[Beetlejuice]

Problem is though that nothing really nasty has been found on marc. Danny's stuff is in a different league IMOs,

Well, I've just posted one example of Marc using a racial slur.

[ThriceShy]

Well, I've just posted one example of Marc using a racial slur.

Two years ago. He may have changed since then.

Perhaps he was provoked with such slurs. Do you have the conversation in context?

[goldensunlight]

To me, this appears as though Marc is tweeting it in a non-serious context, hence the usage of 'mate' in there.

[Withano]

I also believe is these racist and homophobic words are so terrible then black and gay people should not be saying them.

Honestly, I'm done now. I have a firm idea of your opinion on homophobic slurs and racial slurs and I think that your opinion is ****ing gross.

Sometimes words are offensive.. obviously. I can only imagine that you're, middle-classed, cisgendered, heterosexual and white... And actually you've even said in this thread that 2 of the above are true. You obviously have no idea what discrimination feels like and you've made it clear that you have a lack of empathy for those that do.

You've made several posts in this thread and others which defend Marcs behaviour by comparing it to Dannys and its awful that you assume it makes either of them okay. You've also said that its okay to use the N word because other people use it more often and its okay to use the f word because some homosexuals say it to their friends. Your rationale behind excusing disgusting behaviour is something that I will never wrap my mind around. It is disgusting. Not only are you generalising all gay and black people by claiming that they typically use these words and none of them are offended by them, you believe that neither you or them are ever in the wrong for doing so.

I hope this post will give you some sort of perspective about how your words in this thread appeared to be written but I fear it will just spur you on to look for more of the attention that you are clearly craving.

[ThriceShy]

To me, this appears as though Marc is tweeting it in a non-serious context, hence the usage of 'mate' in there.

I don't think marc means anything in a nasty way.

These individual tweets taken out of context tell us nothing. If we see the whole context then we would probably see the other person tweeting similar things to marc.

[BB1984]

Honestly, I'm done now. I have a firm idea of your opinion on homophobic slurs and racial slurs and I think that your opinion is ****ing gross.

Sometimes words are offensive.. obviously. I can only imagine that you're, middle-classed, cisgendered, heterosexual and white... And actually you've even said in this thread that 2 of the above are true. You obviously have no idea what discrimination feels like and you've made it clear that you have a lack of empathy for those that do.

You've made several posts in this thread and others which defend Marcs behaviour by comparing it to Dannys and its awful that you assume it makes either of them okay. You've also said that its okay to use the N word because other people use it more often and its okay to use the f word because some homosexuals say it to their friends. Your rationale behind excusing disgusting behaviour is something that I will never wrap my mind around. It is disgusting. Not only are you generalising all gay and black people by claiming that they typically use these words and none of them are offended by them, you believe that neither you or them are ever in the wrong for doing so.

I hope this post will give you some sort of perspective about how your words in this thread appeared to be written but I fear it will just spur you on to look for more of the attention that you are clearly craving.

Is rap music racist if white/asian people hear & sing it if it includes slur?

Are LGBT members bigots if they use certain language?

This is being blown out of proportion...

[ThriceShy]

Honestly, I'm done now. I have a firm idea of your opinion on homophobic slurs and racial slurs and I think that your opinion is ****ing gross.

Sometimes words are offensive.. obviously. I can only imagine that you're, middle-classed, cisgendered, heterosexual and white... And actually you've even said in this thread that 2 of the above are true. You obviously have no idea what discrimination feels like and you've made it clear that you have a lack of empathy for those that do.

You've made several posts in this thread and others which defend Marcs behaviour by comparing it to Dannys and its awful that you assume it makes either of them okay. You've also said that its okay to use the N word because other people use it more often and its okay to use the f word because some homosexuals say it to their friends. Your rationale behind excusing disgusting behaviour is something that I will never wrap my mind around. It is disgusting. Not only are you generalising all gay and black people by claiming that they typically use these words and none of them are offended by them, you believe that neither you or them are ever in the wrong for doing so.

I hope this post will give you some sort of perspective about how your words in this thread appeared to be written but I fear it will just spur you on to look for more of the attention that you are clearly craving.

I'm disabled. I know exactly what discrimination feels like. I just don't want to play the victim and feign offence at every little thing that anyone says.

Now, because you are trying to make this so personal, and because you have asked me to, I am going to put you on my ignore list.

Toodle pip.

[billy123]

I am going to put you on my ignore list.

Toodle pip.Withano you lucky bastard how have you managed that :joker:

[BB1984]

Withano you lucky bastard how have you managed that :joker:

By saying someone is indifferent to racism & homophobia...

This entire topic is becoming toxic.

[Withano]

Is rap music racist if white/asian people hear & sing it if it includes slur?

Are LGBT members bigots if they use certain language?

This is being blown out of proportion...

My recent post wasn't in reply to just one of theirs, it was the way the came across throughout the thread, and several others. It was disgusting and unsettling. I'm not going to find all of the posts that this member has used which appeared incredibly nasty and I don't expect you to search for them but in this thread and others, the member has defended simply disgraceful behaviour and consistantly used the examples to apply to their own life. The user quoted me at least 100 times in the last week, genuinely not exaggerating, in these posts, I personally believed the user actively attempted to offend either myself or others and I have found their behaviour in this thread alone to be no different. Hopefully Thriceshy was true to their word and put me on their ignore list because I have lost my patience with their blunt a cruel attitude.

[Withano]

Withano you lucky bastard how have you managed that :joker:

:joker: I'm relieved, but credit where its due, thriceshy can take a hint.

[ThriceShy]

Is rap music racist if white/asian people hear & sing it if it includes slur?

Are LGBT members bigots if they use certain language?

This is being blown out of proportion...

These are the pertinent questions and I doubt anyone will answer them.

How dare somebody release a song with a word in it then cry racism when somebody sings the song, just because they are white?:shrug:

The PC brigade are ruining this country and they ruined BB years ago.

[BB1984]

My recent post wasn't in reply to just one of theirs, it was the way the came across throughout the thread, and several others. It was disgusting and unsettling. I'm not going to find all of the posts that this member has used which appeared incredibly nasty and I don't expect you to search for them but in this thread and others, the member has defended simply disgraceful behaviour and consistantly used the examples to apply to their own life. The user quoted me at least 100 times in the last four days, genuinely not exaggerating, in these posts, I personally believed the user actively attempted to offend either myself or others and I have found their behaviour in this thread alone to be no different. Hopefully Thriceshy was true to their word and put me on their ignore list because I have lost my patience with their blunt a cruel attitude.

I don't really know about others but from what I see this forum is full of funny people with opinions that make me laugh about BB & the HM's.
Not everyone can agree, that is the joys of a ignore button I suppose...

[BB1984]

These are the pertinent questions and I doubt anyone will answer them.

How dare somebody release a song with a word in it then cry racism when somebody sings the song, just because they are white?:shrug:

The PC brigade are ruining this country and they ruined BB years ago.

If people are violent or actively being racist/homophobe then there is a problem.
But when innocent people who for the majority of their life are law abiding citizens are acused of horrible things it is injustice.
Or when something is said in jest or provoke thought.

I don't think Marc is a homophobe/racist
I don't think Danny is a bully/sexist

[ThriceShy]

I don't really know about others but from what I see this forum is full of funny people with opinions that make me laugh about BB & the HM's.
Not everyone can agree, that is the joys of a ignore button I suppose...

Some people simply cannot take being disagreed with. Sad, but there it is.

And in two separate threads tonight, I have had someone trying desperately to make the conversation about me. It isn't about me. I want to discuss the housemates and the housemates only.

I have put both posters on ignore actually and hopefully that will be an end to it.

But someone openly admitting to want to get you banned is just odd. Stalker type odd.

This place is worse than DS sometimes.:laugh:

[ThriceShy]

If people are violent or actively being racist/homophobe then there is a problem.
But when innocent people who for the majority of their life are law abiding citizens are acused of horrible things it is injustice.
Or when something is said in jest or provoke thought.

I don't think Marc is a homophobe/racist
I don't think Danny is a bully/sexist

It is true. I don't think either of them are racist or homophobic.

But I do think Danny is a bully based on his behaviour in the house.

[Withano]

I don't really know about others but from what I see this forum is full of funny people with opinions that make me laugh about BB & the HM's.
Not everyone can agree, that is the joys of a ignore button I suppose...

I meant the users other posts, not the other members. You're right, posts are often light hearted and fun, you'll like it here.

[reece(:]

Not to add fuel to the fire but how about people have a read of this

http://cancerwontbeatme.com/2015/06/02/troll-of-the-big-brother-house/#more-1110

I'll spoiler the worst part


http://cancerwontbeatmedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/wpid-screenshot_2015-06-02-13-44-10.png?w=291&h=508

[BB1984]

It is true. I don't think either of them are racist or homophobic.

But I do think Danny is a bully based on his behaviour in the house.

I'm kind of torn with him. He seems to think that by standing up to Marc it is getting in the good graces with the viewers.
Whereas I think the majority of the house is bullying him & not just Danny alone.
They seemed to be getting along for a while but then Danny started becoming petty with Marc regularly.
Marc could snap him like a twig anyway.

[Withano]

Not to add fuel to the fire but how about people have a read of this

http://cancerwontbeatme.com/2015/06/02/troll-of-the-big-brother-house/#more-1110

I'll spoiler the worst part


http://cancerwontbeatmedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/wpid-screenshot_2015-06-02-13-44-10.png?w=291&h=508

Oh wow. Only seen the image but he really is vermin ffs, his support is so unwarranted, I'll read the blog now.

[ThriceShy]

Not to add fuel to the fire but how about people have a read of this

http://cancerwontbeatme.com/2015/06/02/troll-of-the-big-brother-house/#more-1110

I'll spoiler the worst part


http://cancerwontbeatmedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/wpid-screenshot_2015-06-02-13-44-10.png?w=291&h=508

Yes you wouldn't want to add any fuel by posting this.:laugh:

It appears to me that Marc is angry at someone advocating alternative medicine for cancer.

[ThriceShy]

I'm kind of torn with him. He seems to think that by standing up to Marc it is getting in the good graces with the viewers.
Whereas I think the majority of the house is bullying him & not just Danny alone.
They seemed to be getting along for a while but then Danny started becoming petty with Marc regularly.
Marc could snap him like a twig anyway.

They bullied all the newbs really exceot harry who licked their arses.

Hope this eviction smashes their clique.

[reece(:]

Yes you wouldn't want to add any fuel by posting this.:laugh:

It appears to me that Marc is angry at someone advocating alternative medicine for cancer.
:laugh:

It's a seriously wrong comment so I guess it should see the light whilst twitter/social media comments are dominating the forum :shrug:

[ThriceShy]

:laugh:

It's a seriously wrong comment so I guess it should see the light whilst twitter/social media comments are dominating the forum :shrug:

He has gone about it the wrong way but I agree with marc's stand on alernative treatments. They are very dangerous.

[Ammi]

Not to add fuel to the fire but how about people have a read of this

http://cancerwontbeatme.com/2015/06/02/troll-of-the-big-brother-house/#more-1110

I'll spoiler the worst part


http://cancerwontbeatmedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/wpid-screenshot_2015-06-02-13-44-10.png?w=291&h=508

....that's what, a blog Reece..?...

[reece(:]

....that's what, a blog Reece..?...
Indeed

[ThriceShy]

Well we know everything written on blogs is true.

Has this been confirmed to be marc?

And why is it described as trolling. It looks like a conversation to me where marc states she is endangering people with fake cancer remedies.

[Denver]

****** is a Scottish delicacies.

It's clearly to see it between to friends having banter and we have all been there calling a friend something offensive

[Ammi]

Indeed

...hmmm, you know that I'm no fan of Marc's at all and last night with his remark to Danny about Danny just wanting the £100,000 winner's cheque, whatever his exact words were, just to me confirmed what's upmost on his own mind and that's all he's focused on as well...I don't think any of Marc and Danny is a 'battle for alpha' so much as they're both arrogant enough to think their the only 'real contenders' in the house and they're indeed actually battling for the prize and the win...which is great/fine, it's a game and that's the point of it but let's just be honest about that because they're as bad as each other or as game-playing as each other....anyways, they've both obviously had older tweets 'exposed' but for a 'game-player' such as I think Marc is...why would he tweet something like that just as he knew that he was about to go into BB and that's the only negative and awful tweet that was sent/how convenient that it just happened to be someone who was about to do BB...it just seems a little hmmmm, to me....?...one really quite awful tweet and it just happened to be Marc who sent it....

..this whole Twitter thing is just ughhhhh.....it's not Big Brother anymore, it's just Big Twitter or who is the biggest twit....

[Ashley.]

I'm sorry but if that's not homophobic, then what Danny said isn't homophobic either. They both said it to their friends.

Stop trying to justify your favourites and get on with it.

[ThriceShy]

I'm sorry but if that's not homophobic, then what Danny said isn't homophobic either. They both said it to their friends.

Stop trying to justify your favourites and get on with it.


I agree that neither was really. But apparently I am going to be banned for that opinion.:laugh:

[Withano]

I agree that neither was really. But apparently I am going to be banned for that opinion.:laugh:

The word is homophobic, the person using it was not.

They're either both horrid people because of the tweet or neither of them are depending on what your stance is about how much you can tell from a housemate by the things they did before the show.. To make a point that one is okay because the other did it way worse (which is what you did) is ridiculous. Consistency is key here, perhaps.

[mimosveta]

Not to add fuel to the fire but how about people have a read of this

http://cancerwontbeatme.com/2015/06/02/troll-of-the-big-brother-house/#more-1110

I'll spoiler the worst part


http://cancerwontbeatmedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/wpid-screenshot_2015-06-02-13-44-10.png?w=291&h=508

Not to be devil's advocate, but how do we know this is him?

When reading his tweets, I can totally hear his voice saying that crap. But I don't get same vibe off of this.

And it doesn't look hard to fake

[Ammi]

Not to be devil's advocate, but how do we know this is him?
When reading his tweets, I can totally hear his voice saying that crap. But I don't get same vibe off of this.

And it doesn't look hard to fake

....this is it completely, there is so much on Twitter that can be made to seem something that it's totally not and the only 'fact' is that I know this to be true...

[Beetlejuice]

Not to be devil's advocate, but how do we know this is him?

When reading his tweets, I can totally hear his voice saying that crap. But I don't get same vibe off of this.

And it doesn't look hard to fake

It's a bit too random though. Would someone on a site about cancer just make it up?

[Ammi]

It's a bit too random though. Would someone on a site about cancer just make it up?

..I didn't see what the TV interview was with the person who had cancer but would only one person out of the whole country tweet something negative and awful and that one person just happen to be someone who knows they're about to go into the BB house and oh the coincidence of that..?..hmmm...I mean I don't like Marc but this doesn't feel right to me ...

[Ammi]

..I guess it's what you say, that it's a bit randomly coincidence that it happens to be a controversial housemate ....

[Smash the Clique]

The reason that Danny's social media past looks so much worse for him than it does for Marc is quite simple; we know Marc is a wind-up merchant. We know he can be horrifically offensive at times. He has never tried to hide this.

Danny on the other hand has set himself up as the self-appointed moral policeman of the house, but what these tweets etc are showing is that this image he's cultivated is completely bogus.

Unfortunately for Danny fans, the public don't like a goody-two-shoes but they especially don't like a goody-two-shoes who turns out not to be as squeaky clean as he's tried to let on.

[Beetlejuice]

..I didn't see what the TV interview was with the person who had cancer but would only one person out of the whole country tweet something negative and awful and that one person just happen to be someone who knows they're about to go into the BB house and oh the coincidence of that..?..hmmm...I mean I don't like Marc but this doesn't feel right to me ...

It was typed in Feburary. And it seems to have been an exchange on facebook.

So people can start digging for dirt on facebook as well as twitter now. :bored:

[Ammi]

It was typed in Feburary. And it seems to have been an exchange on facebook.

So people can start digging for dirt on facebook as well as twitter now. :bored:

..I need to start reading dates..:fist:..seriously though, I think it's still the same in that from what the person said, there was only one negative comment and it happened to be from Marc and then just happened to come to attention after all of these weeks of him being in the house, at a time when all of this Twitter stuff is happening.../just doesn't sit quite right to me...

[Josy]

It was typed in Feburary. And it seems to have been an exchange on facebook.

So people can start digging for dirt on facebook as well as twitter now. :bored:

Look to the newspapers if you want people to blame for that, they start the ball rolling and then people get curious and search for more.

[camertone]

mark said he has gay friends and even kissed them for fun and humor.. he was joking that he was gay, he is obviously very secure about his sexuality. so this is ludicrous.

[VanessaFeltz.]

To the person who said "my brothers call the f word all thr time but i dont find it offensive" my friend uses the f word all the time i am not offended but it i dont think it is acceptable.

[billy123]

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[MrWong]

I can't see much difference between Marc and Danny.

Both are arseholes.

[joeysteele]

he's clearly not homophobic. his best friend in the house was Simon fgs

True friend too,the point everyone is missing is that Marc is a wind up merchant, he did it from the minute he went into the house, saying things to get a reaction and stir them all up.

He does,I think, at times use terms that he doesn't mean,however he loves the reaction he gets so goes on with them.

People just seem to be falling for it all the time too, so whose fault is that.
I think he is great the way he goes about getting them all going, I'd likely hate to at times be on the receiving end but it is often hilarious to watch.

[MrWong]

Homophobic and racist language is banter now? :worry:

[Nancy.]

Imo people are way too sensitive about these sort of words, someone using these words does not make them homophobic, the context in which they are used makes the person homophobic and the words offensive.

And I said the exact same thing in the thread about Danny as well, before anyone jumped on the 'you'd defend Marc even if he killed someone blah blah blah' bandwagon.

I agree with this.

[chuff me dizzy]

Calling someone a ****** is not homophobic ,stop clutching at straws ,in Yorkshire its said to someone who's a bit daft, its an endearment

[MrWong]

Calling someone a ****** is not homophobic ,stop clutching at straws ,in Yorkshire its said to someone who's a bit daft, its an endearment

Yeah and calling someone a chinese squinty eyed fool isn't racist :facepalm:

[Griffin5779]

"i'm gay, i like boys" in my opinion he is not in the least homophobic if he makes that comment on national television.

marc is crude..and people might consider the word inappropriate but it used among friends all the time. like almost any word the context and intent is important judge what it means...sounds to me like he was using as a general insult which is part of his banter:) it doesn't sound to me like he meant it to a and derogatory attack on a persons sexuality.

if you want to say he uses inappropriate language .. fine ...if you want to say he is crude ...ok but saying he is homophobic is ridiculous.

i'm gay and not in least offended by the way

[MrWong]

"i'm gay, i like boys" in my opinion he is not in the least homophobic if he makes that comment on national television.

marc is crude..and people might consider the word inappropriate but it used among friends all the time. like almost any word the context and intent is important judge what it means...sounds to me like he was using as a general insult which is part of his banter:) it doesn't sound to me like he meant it to a and derogatory attack on a persons sexuality.

if you want to say he uses inappropriate language .. fine ...if you want to say he is crude ...ok but saying he is homophobic is ridiculous.

i'm gay and not in least offended by the way

Perched for Marc saying, "I'm Chinese, I like asian's" so his racist language can be justified next.

[Beso]

he's clearly not homophobic. His best friend in the house was simon fgs

only so he could borrow his shirts

[Jamie89]

Sorry, I find this post really amusing with your username :D

Anyway, my response is the same as the Danny ones. It does not necessarily make one homophobic to use language such as this. It is technically homophobic language, but that doesn't mean the person using it is actually homophobic...

I shall hide now as I was in the wrong for saying it about Danny too :laugh:

Agreed. I'd actually go a bit further and say that it's not even homophobic language. Before I get lynched, I'll explain what I mean! I don't think language can be homophobic, homophobia is a way of thinking, and the language used to express homophobia is entirely dependant on intent. Not simply the language itself out of context.
Simply using the word fa**ot, as much as some people might hate the word because of the connotations it has to them, does not make the person using it a homophobe. By saying it does, you're applying an entire mindset to a person, based on a single word they've said (or in this case typed) without understanding anything about that persons individual relationship with the word, or the people they were saying it to, or the context it was said in. ALL of these things have to be understood if you're going to label someone as a homophobe as actually being homophobic is a very serious thing, and a very different thing to being insensitive with the language you choose to use.

By all means take issue with his choice of language and let's debate whether it's an acceptable term (in my life, it is) but people shouldn't confuse their personal distaste for a word and how it makes them feel with someone else's intent in using it. At worst, it makes him insensitive, but homophobic? No.

[ThriceShy]

Calling someone a ****** is not homophobic ,stop clutching at straws ,in Yorkshire its said to someone who's a bit daft, its an endearment


They are very nice to eat too. The Brain's ones that you buy from the freezer.:laugh:


But, on a serious note, you must agree now that all such words are wrong and should never be spoken, even if they appear in commercially released songs. If you do not agree to this then I will stamp my feet and you will be banned!

[Pete.]

Calling someone a ****** is not homophobic ,stop clutching at straws ,in Yorkshire its said to someone who's a bit daft, its an endearment
:facepalm:

[Beso]

you cant even say ****** on here without a banning

[Robertocarlo]

Marc is certainly not homophobic. Remember he was really pally and supportive of Simon. A lot of people use the word *f@ggot it's not a homophobic term and I am 100% Gay and not offended.

[reece(:]

you cant even say ****** on here without a banning
It is filtered for a reason

[Jarrod]

Marc is certainly not homophobic. Remember he was really pally and supportive of Simon. A lot of people use the word *f@ggot it's not a homophobic term and I am 100% Gay and not offended.

Speak for yourself. That term is really disgusting IMO to try and describe a gay person. If someone used it to describe me I'd be extremely offended.

[Beso]

It is filtered for a reason

yep, and that will be because it is a homophobic word.

[ThriceShy]

yep, and that will be because it is a homophobic word.

Words can't be homophobic. Only people can.

I hate the word homophobia anyway. It implies fear.

[Northern Monkey]

I've seen posts on here using the word 'Dyke' in jest.Is that not homophobic too?Imo intent is key here.

[billy123]

How do people justify defending anyone that would wish cancer on another person. How ****ing ridiculous.

[Withano]

How do people justify defending anyone that would wish cancer on another person. How ****ing ridiculous.

Top bantz
Probli Photoshop
Probli wasn't Marc
Danny would have done it too
Probli mates having banter
Probli a producer trying to fix it
So many bantz

[reece(:]

How do people justify defending anyone that would wish cancer on another person. How ****ing ridiculous.
"Banta" :rolleyes:

[billy123]

Top bantz
Probli Photoshop
Probli wasn't Marc
Danny would have done it too
Probli mates having banter
Probli a producer trying to fix it
So many bantz

"Banta" :rolleyes:I hate what this show has become. People willing throw morals in the bin in some desperate attempt to defend some disgusting moron that wont be remembered in 12 months.

[JoshBB]

I don't see anything homophobic in that tweet.

does the capitalised slur '******' not seem at least sligtly homophobic to you? :laugh:

he's clearly not homophobic. his best friend in the house was Simon fgs

You can be racist and have black friends.. it's the same principle.

[Withano]

I hate what this show has become. People willing throw morals in the bin in some desperate attempt to defend some disgusting moron that wont be remembered in 12 months.

So grim, I won't be watching again. Marc and Helen would have never won on c4, the last million viewers are the ones who want to crown nastiness for the sake of some weird idea of what they call entertainment.

The civilian shows are dead.

[letmein]

The slur comes with an entire history behind it. It's not okay to use, period.

[letmein]

Words can't be homophobic. Only people can.

I hate the word homophobia anyway. It implies fear.

No it doesn't.

[letmein]

Marc is certainly not homophobic. Remember he was really pally and supportive of Simon. A lot of people use the word *f@ggot it's not a homophobic term and I am 100% Gay and not offended.

and that's you.

[Babschap]

Daily Star reporting that Marc tweeted to someone that he was going to rape her with a Hoover pole. Not one to take much notice of that tabloid, but makes interesting reading!

[Chilltown]

It was a man, and apparently it was a friend manning his account during that time.

[Absorption]

It was a man, and apparently it was a friend manning his account during that time.

How convenient.

I bet it was always his brother who was responsible for any porn that was downloaded in the family home, too! :joker:

Mind you, kind of ironic that Helen said Brian looked like a rapist when her bezzie mate in the house had posted that. Sorry, I mean his friend had posted that.

[Babschap]

Marc would say it was a friend manning the account! He's hardly going to admit it is he!!

[Vicky.]

Marc would say it was a friend manning the account! He's hardly going to admit it is he!!

I'm quite sure marc has said nothing about it as he doesn't know people have been gravedigging his tweets as he is in the house, same with Dannys :tongue:

Not too sure where that excuse has come from though

[Babschap]

I'm quite sure marc has said nothing about it as he doesn't know people have been gravedigging his tweets as he is in the house, same with Dannys :tongue:

Not too sure where that excuse has come from though

The excuse came from a representative of Marc's who was speaking on Marcs behalf.

[Lostie!]

Yeah. I need to go. Really. But I'm going to need a shove. Who's up for "banter" ?!

Um ... right then.

[Babschap]

Bet they don't discuss this on BBOTs, seem to be leading a campaign for Marc to win.

[Vicky.]

Bet they don't discuss this on BBOTs, seem to be leading a campaign for Marc to win.

Did they discuss Dannys tweets also? His came out before Marcs did, thats all...

I don't watch BOTS.

[Chilltown]

I don't think either should be discussed on BOTS or BB, seems irrelevant to the game.

[Absorption]

The excuse came from a representative of Marc's who was speaking on Marcs behalf.

Ah yes, I know the fellow. He was kind enough to inform Marc's teacher when he was at school that the dog had eaten his homework.

(Marc would have told him himself but he'd had to go to the dentist unexpectedly, proven by the note signed "my mum".)

[Babschap]

Ah yes, I know the fellow. He was kind enough to inform Marc's teacher when he was at school that the dog had eaten his homework.

(Marc would have told him himself but he'd had to go to the dentist unexpectedly, proven by the note signed "my mum".)

Yep, that's him.

[Vicky.]

Merged all the tweet threads together. Any more tweets found please add to here, sick of seeing it all :joker:

[sarah2020]

I dont think this is real as I cant see it in his account but can see dannys in his. Its fake people nothing to see here.

[abhorson]

****** is a Scottish delicacies.

It's clearly to see it between to friends having banter and we have all been there calling a friend something offensive

*****ts are not Scottish!

[Absorption]

I dont think this is real as I cant see it in his account but can see dannys in his. Its fake people nothing to see here.

It was established about a million posts ago that it isn't fake.

The latest claim in his defence was that although the account and the tweets are genuine, any offensive ones were done by 'a friend' of Marc's (or, if you're really into conspiracy theories, by Danny from within the house, presumably using the BB time machine).

[Amy Jade]

It was established about a million posts ago that it isn't fake.

The latest claim in his defence was that although the account and the tweets are genuine, any offensive ones were done by 'a friend' of Marc's (or, if you're really into conspiracy theories, by Danny from within the house, presumably using the BB time machine).

:laugh2: