Why everything about Jack has to be about his weight?

[VanessaFeltz.]

Every year people moan about how hms arent every day people and they want normal people and then we have jack this year and he is a normal person, not a model. He doesnt have an agent, he doesnt earn 100k money every year, he is a person who has bad and good sides to him and he is just someone you see on street every day.

When a comment made about Jack's personality has made thats okay but %90 of the comments i see on here about Jack is about his weight, good or bad we shouldnt make these comments. I dont even like him btw.

Thats why we see 16 models in a season, i wanna see people from every place of life and i hope we will see more diverse casts in future seasons.

[Ashley.]

Because if he carries on being fat, he'll die of a heart attack.

We're just looking out for him.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He cant help being big boned

he was Born That Way

you must not hate what people cannot help

if he was gay or not white can you imagine the outcry....


Its fat shaming pure and simple :nono:

[Marsh.]

Hot

[Ashley.]

He cant help being big boned

he was Born That Way

you must not hate what people cannot help

if he was gay or not white can you imagine the outcry....


Its fat shaming pure and simple :nono:

Being gay and black does not kill you.

Being fat kills you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Because if he carries on being fat, he'll die of a heart attack.

We're just looking out for him.

plenty skinny people die of heart attacks


stop fat shaming :nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Being gay and black does not kill you.

Being fat kills you.

being gay did kill you in the 80s

and being black does a lot in the USA

[Ashley.]

plenty skinny people die of heart attacks


stop fat shaming :nono:

Call it what you want really, I'm just being truthful.

being gay did kill you in the 80s

and being black does a lot in the USA

Stereotypical. These factors don't affect your overall health, anyhow.

[Marsh.]

being gay did kill you in the 80s

and being black does a lot in the USA

:omgno:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Call it what you want really, I'm just being truthful.

so would you call Chloe fat?

[Marcus.]

Every year people moan about how hms arent every day people and they want normal people and then we have jack this year and he is a normal person, not a model. He doesnt have an agent, he doesnt earn 100k money every year, he is a person who has bad and good sides to him and he is just someone you see on street every day.

When a comment made about Jack's personality has made thats okay but %90 of the comments i see on here about Jack is about his weight, good or bad we shouldnt make these comments. I dont even like him btw.

Thats why we see 16 models in a season, i wanna see people from every place of life and i hope we will see more diverse casts in future seasons.

this :clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jack has to win for the future of BB

[Lostie!]

Because if he carries on being fat, he'll die of a heart attack.

We're just looking out for him.

That may be your motivation, but a large portion of weight-related jibes towards overweight BB housemates certainly have nothing to do with "looking out for" them. There's always an element of certain housemates being mocked for their appearances on the forums, and it's just really unpleasant.

[Marcus.]

That may be your motivation, but a large portion of weight-related jibes towards overweight BB housemates certainly have nothing to do with "looking out for" them. There's always an element of certain housemates being mocked for their appearances on the forums, and it's just really unpleasant.

:clap1:

[Ashley.]

so would you call Chloe fat?

No, I'd call her curvy. I don't think she's fat, she's just carrying a bit of extra weight which can be burned off easily. Jack is heading towards a brick wall.

[Ashley.]

That may be your motivation, but a large portion of weight-related jibes towards overweight BB housemates certainly have nothing to do with "looking out for" them. There's always an element of certain housemates being mocked for their appearances on the forums, and it's just really unpleasant.

I agree, and I hope I'm not being associated with those types of people because I'm not. There are a lot of overweight people on Big Brother that I have adored and wanted to win. I don't like Jack's personality and although I have a strong opinion about his size, I don't let it overrule what I think about him. I dislike him because of his personality, but I also think he could do with losing weight.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Because if he carries on being fat, he'll die of a heart attack.

We're just looking out for him.

His weight is none of other people's business, he knows what he is living in and it is not our job to judge people based on their apperance.

If people do that then they shouldnt cry about more diverse casts. Because apperantly they only want skinny blonde girl and men with muscles

[vafunghoul]

Every year people moan about how hms arent every day people and they want normal people and then we have jack this year and he is a normal person, not a model. He doesnt have an agent, he doesnt earn 100k money every year, he is a person who has bad and good sides to him and he is just someone you see on street every day.

When a comment made about Jack's personality has made thats okay but %90 of the comments i see on here about Jack is about his weight, good or bad we shouldnt make these comments. I dont even like him btw.

Thats why we see 16 models in a season, i wanna see people from every place of life and i hope we will see more diverse casts in future seasons.

No, he doesn't have an agent, no he doesn't have a high salary, but he's a phoney asshole who WANTS to win. I dislike him because he farts all the time, cannot handle any semblance of accountability. Especially when nominated for any reason and because of all that, I personally choose to mock him for also being a fat bastard.

[Ashley.]

His weight is none of other people's business, he knows what he is living in and it is not our job to judge people based on their apperance.

If people do that then they shouldnt cry about more diverse casts. Because apperantly they only want skinny blonde girl and men with muscles

This is what I don't like; people assuming that I am judging him based on his weight. I'm not, because I don't do that. I just think that in the future he could suffer serious problems if he doesn't act now.

[Liam-]

His weight is none of other people's business, he knows what he is living in and it is not our job to judge people based on their apperance.

If people do that then they shouldnt cry about more diverse casts. Because apperantly they only want skinny blonde girl and men with muscles

Fair point

[Lostie!]

I agree, and I hope I'm not being associated with those types of people because I'm not. There are a lot of overweight people on Big Brother that I have adored and wanted to win. I don't like Jack's personality and although I have a strong opinion about his size, I don't let it overrule what I think about him. I dislike him because of his personality, but I also think he could do with losing weight.

Oh, I don't have you down as someone who'd mock someone for their weight at all. :)

And I'm the same in that I'm not a Jack fan, but his weight has nothing to do with that. I'm also not a fan of Danny and Cristian (actually, they're both currently annoying me more than Jack) and they're more stereotypically "attractive". Appearance shouldn't ever be a factor in whether someone likes or dislikes a housemate, to be honest.

And frankly, if you have a valid qualm with someone's personality or actions, you wouldn't need to resort to petty, juvenile appearance-based mockery.

[abhorson]

[QUOTE=AshRley;



Stereotypical. These factors don't affect your overall health, anyhow.[/QUOTE]

I suppose not, if you are dead!

[Moosething]

He cant help being big boned

he was Born That Way

you must not hate what people cannot help

if he was gay or not white can you imagine the outcry....


Its fat shaming pure and simple :nono:

:laugh:

[VanessaFeltz.]

No, he doesn't have an agent, no he doesn't have a high salary, but he's a phoney asshole who WANTS to win. I dislike him because he farts all the time, cannot handle any semblance of accountability. Especially when nominated for any reason and because of all that

Thats ok to have opinion on him.

I personally choose to mock him for also being a fat bastard.

This is not.

[Ashley.]

Oh, I don't have you down as someone who'd mock someone for their weight at all. :)

And I'm the same in that I'm not a Jack fan, but his weight has nothing to do with that. I'm also not a fan of Danny and Cristian (actually, they're both currently annoying me more than Jack) and they're more stereotypically "attractive". Appearance shouldn't ever be a factor in whether someone likes or dislikes a housemate, to be honest.

And frankly, if you have a valid qualm with someone's personality or actions, you wouldn't need to resort to petty, juvenile appearance-based mockery.

Thank you; again, I agree. "But he's good looking tho" is not a valid justification of vile behaviour.

[Jack_]

Because people are nasty, that's why.

It's been atrocious this year with the endless insults about the way housemates look and has made this on season one of the most draining and miserable ever

[abhorson]

No, he doesn't have an agent, no he doesn't have a high salary, but he's a phoney asshole who WANTS to win. I dislike him because he farts all the time, cannot handle any semblance of accountability. Especially when nominated for any reason and because of all that, I personally choose to mock him for also being a fat bastard.

Everyone farts all the time. Don't you:laugh:

[Moosething]

Those people who bring up Chloe's dad & similar stuff when its irrelevant to her in the house are just as bad

[Jack_]

Those people who bring up Chloe's dad & similar stuff when its irrelevant to her in the house are just as bad

Indeed

[vafunghoul]

Everyone farts all the time. Don't you:laugh:

Yes but I have class!!!
I do so in private. except when I want to share, then light them.
:shrug::joker:

[VanessaFeltz.]

This is what I don't like; people assuming that I am judging him based on his weight. I'm not, because I don't do that. I just think that in the future he could suffer serious problems if he doesn't act now.

But that come across that way because all the comments are like

"Fat bitch"
"Lose some weight"
"He is very big"
"When will he lose weight"

And i am not talking about you specially i am talking about the comments on here, maybe you are not like that but some people are seriously hating him based on his weight and trying to cover it by "he moans a lot"

If people hate on him based on personality then they shouldnt be offended by my comment at all

[Ashley.]

Everyone farts all the time. Don't you:laugh:

I personally wouldn't stand in a room full of people and let it out, or do it whilst sitting at the dinner table in the middle of a serious conversation. Jonty from BB8 is a perfect example of this. :laugh:

[Ashley.]

If people hate on him based on personality then they shouldnt be offended by my comment at all

You quoted me in your reply so I assumed you were calling me judgemental. Sorry.:laugh:

[abhorson]

I personally wouldn't stand in a room full of people and let it out, or do it whilst sitting at the dinner table in the middle of a serious conversation. Jonty from BB8 is a perfect example of this. :laugh:

:laugh:

I would not either. But amongst certain friends i have done as do they. Might even say "savour the flavour". The British love toilet humour:laugh:

[VanessaFeltz.]

You quoted me in your reply so I assumed you were calling me judgemental. Sorry.:laugh:

No i am not trying to that :D i am trying to tell people it is not okay to shame people based on their weight because lots of people do that this series and it is very unconfortable for me to watch

[BB4fan]

That £23.000 is destined for a spending spree on KFC.:hehe:

[vafunghoul]

That £23.000 is destined for a spending spree on KFC.:hehe:

He has a bucket list!!!

:joker:

[BB4fan]

He has a bucket list!!!

:joker:

He'll eat his local branch out.:laugh:

[rionablue]

Every year people moan about how hms arent every day people and they want normal people and then we have jack this year and he is a normal person, not a model. He doesnt have an agent, he doesnt earn 100k money every year, he is a person who has bad and good sides to him and he is just someone you see on street every day.

When a comment made about Jack's personality has made thats okay but %90 of the comments i see on here about Jack is about his weight, good or bad we shouldnt make these comments. I dont even like him btw.

Thats why we see 16 models in a season, i wanna see people from every place of life and i hope we will see more diverse casts in future seasons.

I don't like using the word fat I am certainly concerned for his health. He has a ferocious appetite for sweet and stodgy food and very little willpower. My cousin had the same problem he just ate and ate and didn't care about the consequences. Eventually he developed heart problems and had to have a gastric band put in which is the last ditch solution. I agree that all shapes and sizes age and ethnic divides should be on BB but from what I have seen of Jack I think he should try and exercise a bit more and eat healthier food for his own sake

[VanessaFeltz.]

I don't like using the word fat I am certainly concerned for his health. He has a ferocious appetite for sweet and stodgy food and very little willpower. My cousin had the same problem he just ate and ate and didn't care about the consequences. Eventually he developed heart problems and had to have a gastric band put in which is the last ditch solution. I agree that all shapes and sizes age and ethnic divides should be on BB but from what I have seen of Jack I think he should try and exercise a bit more and eat healthier food for his own sake

I agree he should but when we talk about it THAT MUCH, it will only make him unconfortable and unfortunately it is his choice to make :shrug:

[Cherie]

Because people are nasty, that's why.

It's been atrocious this year with the endless insults about the way housemates look and has made this on season one of the most draining and miserable ever

:clap1:

[jaxie]

No, he doesn't have an agent, no he doesn't have a high salary, but he's a phoney asshole who WANTS to win. I dislike him because he farts all the time, cannot handle any semblance of accountability. Especially when nominated for any reason and because of all that, I personally choose to mock him for also being a fat bastard.

You never fart? :shrug:

[jaxie]

I don't like using the word fat I am certainly concerned for his health. He has a ferocious appetite for sweet and stodgy food and very little willpower. My cousin had the same problem he just ate and ate and didn't care about the consequences. Eventually he developed heart problems and had to have a gastric band put in which is the last ditch solution. I agree that all shapes and sizes age and ethnic divides should be on BB but from what I have seen of Jack I think he should try and exercise a bit more and eat healthier food for his own sake

Saying he has little will power is bizarre when we saw him in the nil by mouth task watching them all eat. If he had no willpower he would have tucked in. There have been other tasks when he hasn't been able to eat luxury foods also. His willpower was just fine.

We don't really know Jack, we only know a little about him so we can't really make sweeping statements about him. For all we know he could have a medical issue that makes him again weight. It's probably none of our business but people do like to judge.

[Josy]

People are shallow as hell.

When threads are full of comments about looks/weight etc I mostly can't even be bothered replying

[vafunghoul]

Is it a stretch to believe that those most offended with weight humor may be a tad on the chunky side?

Fat, skinny, short, tall. Who cares? It's words. Lighten up. Pardon the pun.

[mrflibble]

If it's because you're really concerned about his health, then I hope you're also making the same comments about the people who smoke and drink and don't exercise and eat badly and are underweight. It's none of your business whether someone is fat or not or what their lifestyle is. The only reason people comment about his weight is because people are shallow and it's an easy thing to pick on. He's fat, yes, but he can stand up on his own and fit through a door, so it's not something people need to comment on every 5 seconds. I'm pretty sure he, and everyone else, are aware of it.