[VanessaFeltz.]

Every year people moan about how hms arent every day people and they want normal people and then we have jack this year and he is a normal person, not a model. He doesnt have an agent, he doesnt earn 100k money every year, he is a person who has bad and good sides to him and he is just someone you see on street every day.

When a comment made about Jack's personality has made thats okay but %90 of the comments i see on here about Jack is about his weight, good or bad we shouldnt make these comments. I dont even like him btw.

Thats why we see 16 models in a season, i wanna see people from every place of life and i hope we will see more diverse casts in future seasons.

[Ashley.]

Because if he carries on being fat, he'll die of a heart attack.

We're just looking out for him.

[LeatherTrumpet]

He cant help being big boned

he was Born That Way

you must not hate what people cannot help

if he was gay or not white can you imagine the outcry....


Its fat shaming pure and simple

[Marsh.]

Hot

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

He cant help being big boned

he was Born That Way

you must not hate what people cannot help

if he was gay or not white can you imagine the outcry....


Its fat shaming pure and simple

Being gay and black does not kill you.

Being fat kills you.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by AshRley

Because if he carries on being fat, he'll die of a heart attack.

We're just looking out for him.

plenty skinny people die of heart attacks


stop fat shaming

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by AshRley

Being gay and black does not kill you.

Being fat kills you.

being gay did kill you in the 80s

and being black does a lot in the USA

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

plenty skinny people die of heart attacks


stop fat shaming

Call it what you want really, I'm just being truthful.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

being gay did kill you in the 80s

and being black does a lot in the USA

Stereotypical. These factors don't affect your overall health, anyhow.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

being gay did kill you in the 80s

and being black does a lot in the USA

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by AshRley

Call it what you want really, I'm just being truthful.

so would you call Chloe fat?

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by MelihV

Every year people moan about how hms arent every day people and they want normal people and then we have jack this year and he is a normal person, not a model. He doesnt have an agent, he doesnt earn 100k money every year, he is a person who has bad and good sides to him and he is just someone you see on street every day.

When a comment made about Jack's personality has made thats okay but %90 of the comments i see on here about Jack is about his weight, good or bad we shouldnt make these comments. I dont even like him btw.

Thats why we see 16 models in a season, i wanna see people from every place of life and i hope we will see more diverse casts in future seasons.

this

[LeatherTrumpet]

Jack has to win for the future of BB

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by AshRley

Because if he carries on being fat, he'll die of a heart attack.

We're just looking out for him.

That may be your motivation, but a large portion of weight-related jibes towards overweight BB housemates certainly have nothing to do with "looking out for" them. There's always an element of certain housemates being mocked for their appearances on the forums, and it's just really unpleasant.

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

That may be your motivation, but a large portion of weight-related jibes towards overweight BB housemates certainly have nothing to do with "looking out for" them. There's always an element of certain housemates being mocked for their appearances on the forums, and it's just really unpleasant.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so would you call Chloe fat?

No, I'd call her curvy. I don't think she's fat, she's just carrying a bit of extra weight which can be burned off easily. Jack is heading towards a brick wall.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

That may be your motivation, but a large portion of weight-related jibes towards overweight BB housemates certainly have nothing to do with "looking out for" them. There's always an element of certain housemates being mocked for their appearances on the forums, and it's just really unpleasant.

I agree, and I hope I'm not being associated with those types of people because I'm not. There are a lot of overweight people on Big Brother that I have adored and wanted to win. I don't like Jack's personality and although I have a strong opinion about his size, I don't let it overrule what I think about him. I dislike him because of his personality, but I also think he could do with losing weight.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by AshRley

Because if he carries on being fat, he'll die of a heart attack.

We're just looking out for him.

His weight is none of other people's business, he knows what he is living in and it is not our job to judge people based on their apperance.

If people do that then they shouldnt cry about more diverse casts. Because apperantly they only want skinny blonde girl and men with muscles

[vafunghoul]

Originally Posted by MelihV

Every year people moan about how hms arent every day people and they want normal people and then we have jack this year and he is a normal person, not a model. He doesnt have an agent, he doesnt earn 100k money every year, he is a person who has bad and good sides to him and he is just someone you see on street every day.

When a comment made about Jack's personality has made thats okay but %90 of the comments i see on here about Jack is about his weight, good or bad we shouldnt make these comments. I dont even like him btw.

Thats why we see 16 models in a season, i wanna see people from every place of life and i hope we will see more diverse casts in future seasons.

No, he doesn't have an agent, no he doesn't have a high salary, but he's a phoney asshole who WANTS to win. I dislike him because he farts all the time, cannot handle any semblance of accountability. Especially when nominated for any reason and because of all that, I personally choose to mock him for also being a fat bastard.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by MelihV

His weight is none of other people's business, he knows what he is living in and it is not our job to judge people based on their apperance.

If people do that then they shouldnt cry about more diverse casts. Because apperantly they only want skinny blonde girl and men with muscles

This is what I don't like; people assuming that I am judging him based on his weight. I'm not, because I don't do that. I just think that in the future he could suffer serious problems if he doesn't act now.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by MelihV

His weight is none of other people's business, he knows what he is living in and it is not our job to judge people based on their apperance.

If people do that then they shouldnt cry about more diverse casts. Because apperantly they only want skinny blonde girl and men with muscles

Fair point

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by AshRley

I agree, and I hope I'm not being associated with those types of people because I'm not. There are a lot of overweight people on Big Brother that I have adored and wanted to win. I don't like Jack's personality and although I have a strong opinion about his size, I don't let it overrule what I think about him. I dislike him because of his personality, but I also think he could do with losing weight.

Oh, I don't have you down as someone who'd mock someone for their weight at all.

And I'm the same in that I'm not a Jack fan, but his weight has nothing to do with that. I'm also not a fan of Danny and Cristian (actually, they're both currently annoying me more than Jack) and they're more stereotypically "attractive". Appearance shouldn't ever be a factor in whether someone likes or dislikes a housemate, to be honest.

And frankly, if you have a valid qualm with someone's personality or actions, you wouldn't need to resort to petty, juvenile appearance-based mockery.

[abhorson]

[QUOTE=AshRley;



Stereotypical. These factors don't affect your overall health, anyhow.[/QUOTE]

I suppose not, if you are dead!

[Moosething]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

He cant help being big boned

he was Born That Way

you must not hate what people cannot help

if he was gay or not white can you imagine the outcry....


Its fat shaming pure and simple

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by vafunghoul

No, he doesn't have an agent, no he doesn't have a high salary, but he's a phoney asshole who WANTS to win. I dislike him because he farts all the time, cannot handle any semblance of accountability. Especially when nominated for any reason and because of all that

Thats ok to have opinion on him.

I personally choose to mock him for also being a fat bastard.

This is not.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Oh, I don't have you down as someone who'd mock someone for their weight at all.

And I'm the same in that I'm not a Jack fan, but his weight has nothing to do with that. I'm also not a fan of Danny and Cristian (actually, they're both currently annoying me more than Jack) and they're more stereotypically "attractive". Appearance shouldn't ever be a factor in whether someone likes or dislikes a housemate, to be honest.

And frankly, if you have a valid qualm with someone's personality or actions, you wouldn't need to resort to petty, juvenile appearance-based mockery.

Thank you; again, I agree. "But he's good looking tho" is not a valid justification of vile behaviour.