*The Official CBB16 ratings thread!*

[jackc1806]

I'll start it now, unless there is another (forgive me)

Last SUMMER (CBB14) launched with 2.61m officially

Predictions for the OVERNIGHT launch this time?

I'm saying 2.5m

[AProducer'sWetDream]

If the promotion is anything like as bad as it was for civilian BB, then I predict around 2.2-2.3.

[MB.]

2.2 million

[Will.]

let me see what last years got... and I'll get back to this thread...

[Will.]

2.4M I'm guessing if theres good promotion.

If it's launching around the 21st then they should reveal the eye about the 7th August and have a good 2 weeks of promotion.

[mrmattybeck1]

Sod cbb shortening bbuk which I'm not happy about

[Maxxie.]

Slightly better than last yeas, does anyone know how CBB12 got 3.18m? It was only two years ago so can't see why it can't get that now with using whatever they used to attract that rating for a summer cbb.

[Natalie.]

2.4

[Pete.]

Slightly better than last yeas, does anyone know how CBB12 got 3.18m? It was only two years ago so can't see why it can't get that now with using whatever they used to attract that rating for a summer cbb.
Because CBB12 had names that would have drawn viewers and it was riding off the success of BB14

[Will.]

Slightly better than last yeas, does anyone know how CBB12 got 3.18m? It was only two years ago so can't see why it can't get that now with using whatever they used to attract that rating for a summer cbb.

CBB14 got a 2.75 official launch rating, so CBB12 probably got the extra 300k from BB14 as that had an extra 300k than BB15.

[Will.]

CBB14 didn't do very well in ratings but overall it wasn't a fantastic series, the cast wasn't really a ratings winner compared to CBB12.

CBB16 cast sounds very promising, and this will hopefully reflects in the ratings, most of the rumours I know.

[Rob!]

2.3m

[TomC]

Because any without 'official' in the title definitely isn't official!!! xxx

[RichardG]

2.2m maybe if we're lucky :laugh:

Sod cbb shortening bbuk which I'm not happy about

I am, imagine having to put up with another three weeks of BB16. :omgno:

[Maxxie.]

CBB14 didn't do very well in ratings but overall it wasn't a fantastic series, the cast wasn't really a ratings winner compared to CBB12.

CBB16 cast sounds very promising, and this will hopefully reflects in the ratings, most of the rumours I know.

Fair enough but imo CBB14 was a much more entertaining series and the line up was a more or less the same standard, maybe CBB14 beating it by a push.

[*mazedsalv**]

Last 4 CBB series, but remember to look at only CBB12 and CBB14 as they were summer series just like CBB16 will be. CBB13 and CBB15 being on January will always be higher and a summer CBB won't ever launch as high as a winter series.

CBB12 Overnight- 2.83m
CBB12 Official- 3.18m

CBB13 Overnight- 3.40m
CBB13 Official- 3.69m

CBB14 Overnight- 2.36m
CBB14 Official- 2.75m

CBB15 Overnight- 3.27m
CBB15 Official- 3.64m

I honestly think CBB will launch at a series low, I mean the BB16 final ended with 1.28m, I can't see them finding a million + viewers for CBB launch so soon after BB16.

Last 4 overnight and official finals with comparisons on how much they lost/gained in terms of OFFICIALS.

CBB12 official for final- 2.59m (lost 590k)
CBB13 official for final- 3.71m (gained 20k)
CBB14 official for final- 2.47m (lost 280k)
CBB15 official for final- 3.03m (lost 610k)

Surprisingly CBB15 lost the most from launch to final as the last week was oddly a low week when just a week prior to the final it was getting 3.4-3.5m. Still don't get that.

Meanwhile CBB13 still remains the only series since BB7 to actually gain from launch to final.BB1-BB3, BB5-BB7 are only series in the entire history of BB to gain from launch to final, and CBB13 finally joined them, and became (I think) the only CBB series to do it. I don't have the CBB4 final and launch numbers so maybe CBB4 did it too.

The CBB13 final figure of 3.71m is still fantastic, oddly enough a CBB15 regular episode matched that 3.71m as Alexander walked from the show on a Sunday episode. The two ratings of 3.71m, along with the CBB8 launch remain the highest ratings of BB on C5.

And in terms of a normal episode of Civilian BB, the aftermath of Daley's ejection still remains the highest reg BB rating on C5 with 2.11m.

[Will.]

Fair enough but imo CBB14 was a much more entertaining series and the line up was a more or less the same standard, maybe CBB14 beating it by a push.

the cast was interesting but there wasn't anyone really who would pull in ratings (fans).

[Jason.]

I have a feeling this CBB will rate badly.

Has anybody else noticed that summer CBB usually averages an extra 0.5/0.6m more than the civilian series.

For example:

BB13 = 1.6m & CBB10 = 2.2m
BB14 = 1.9m & CBB12 = 2.3m
BB15 = 1.6m & CBB14 = 2.1m

So, if the same pattern occurs, I think this CBB will average around 1.9m/2.0m, considering BB16 is averaging around 1.4m. Which would be awful, considering BB14 rated the same.

[Ashley.]

I hope it rates badly. Production need to see the error of their ways. :laugh:

[MB.]

I hope it rates badly. Production need to see the error of their ways. :laugh:

:suspect: What if it's a good series?

[jackc1806]

I hope it rates badly. Production need to see the error of their ways. :laugh:

CBB production is normally better, although power trip nastiness has been sneaking in recently

[jackc1806]

:suspect: What if it's a good series?

I think it will be.

But I don't think some of the alleged names this series are big enough draws, even though they'll be really entertaining

[jackc1806]

I have a feeling this CBB will rate badly.

Has anybody else noticed that summer CBB usually averages an extra 0.5/0.6m more than the civilian series.

For example:

BB13 = 1.6m & CBB10 = 2.2m
BB14 = 1.9m & CBB12 = 2.3m
BB15 = 1.6m & CBB14 = 2.1m

So, if the same pattern occurs, I think this CBB will average around 1.9m/2.0m, considering BB16 is averaging around 1.4m. Which would be awful, considering BB14 rated the same.

If they are sensible, they'd use the gap to promote it...

Also, it's launching sorta at the end of the summer holidays which might help

But to be honest, if they do promote it well it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth as BB16 had less than 2 weeks and no proper promo

[Jason.]

Surprisingly CBB15 lost the most from launch to final as the last week was oddly a low week when just a week prior to the final it was getting 3.4-3.5m. Still don't get that.

Meanwhile CBB13 still remains the only series since BB7 to actually gain from launch to final.BB1-BB3, BB5-BB7 are only series in the entire history of BB to gain from launch to final, and CBB13 finally joined them, and became (I think) the only CBB series to do it. I don't have the CBB4 final and launch numbers so maybe CBB4 did it too.




BIB 1 -

I think the reason the ratings dropped during the last week of CBB15 was because it just became too draining and repetitive to watch with Hopkins and Hilton being shoved down our throats at every given opportunity by the producers. It became the spitting image of the draining conflict that dominated BB15 and CBB14 - two bad series, which both happened to rate badly. Hence, why the ratings were considerably lower during the last week of CBB15. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the Jump on during the last week of CBB15?, so maybe competition - although I remember the Jump airing before BB, so maybe not. I do think that awful Bombshell eviction thing wasn't good for ratings, either. Especially having a show at 8pm, which gained about 1.7m. Not to mention the last week of CBB15 was in February - the first time ever for CBB, as it usually ends late January, so maybe that had something to do with it.

BIB 2 -

BB4 also gained from launch to final. BB4 launched with 7.05m and ended with 7.23m viewers - a 180k gain.

Also, CBB1, CBB3, and CBB4 gained from launch to final as well. So CBB13 wasn't the first/only to do so.

CBB1 launched with 4.6m and ended with 5.7m viewers - a 1.1m gain.
CBB3 launched with 5.4m and ended with 5.8m viewers - a 400k gain.
CBB4 launched with 6.7m and ended with 7.3m viewers - a 600k gain.

No series post BB7, has gained from launch to final, except CBB13. Which is quite an achievement - considering that was almost a decade earlier. I think CBB5 had something to do with finals rating lower than launches. CBB5 launched with 7.3m and ended with 5.3m - a 2m loss. Since then, every series has gained lower in the final than in the launch, including BB.

[Jason.]

I call dibs on the CBB17 Ratings Thread, in January. :hee:

[Will.]

If this series is promoted well it should do well.

The cast will definitely draw in the viewers if the rumours are accurate.

[crazycolaist]

1.8mil if the advertising is terrible.
2.6m if they put up billboards around. Depending on the celebrities really,

[Jason.]

Thought I'd give this a bump as we now have a launch date, and the series starts in under two weeks.

[Cal.]

I'm guessing 1.8-2.3 people x

:hehe:

[MB.]

Not .3 of a person

[MB.]

(but it's nice to know Verne Troyer'll still be tuning in)

[Jason.]

Some statistics if anyone is interested...

OFFICIAL FIGURES


CBB SERIES AVERAGES (OFFICIAL FIGURES)
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 1 (2001): 5.2m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 2 (2002): 4.4m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 3 (2005): 4.3m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 4 (2006): 4.9m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 5 (2007): 4.6m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 6 (2009): 3.3m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 7 (2010): 3.7m [inc. +1]

CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 8 (2011): 2.8m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 9 (2012): 2.6m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 10 (2012): 2.2m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 11 (2013): 2.8m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 12 (2013): 2.3m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 13 (2014): 3.1m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 14 (2014): 2.1m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 15 (2015): 3.1m [inc. +1]

CBB LAUNCH NIGHT RATINGS (OFFICIAL FIGURES)
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 1 (2001): 4.6m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 2 (2002): 7.6m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 3 (2005): 5.4m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 4 (2006): 6.7m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 5 (2007): 7.3m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 6 (2009): 6.1m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 7 (2010): 6.7m [inc. +1]

CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 8 (2011): 5.3m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 9 (2012): 3.6m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 10 (2012): 3.0m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 11 (2013): 3.8m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 12 (2013): 3.2M [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 13 (2014): 3.7M [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 14 (2014): 2.8M [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 15 (2015): 3.7M [inc. +1]

CBB FINAL NIGHT RATINGS (OFFICIAL FIGURES)
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 1 (2001): 5.7m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 2 (2002): 5.4m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 3 (2005): 5.8m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 4 (2006): 7.3m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 5 (2007): 5.3m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 6 (2009): 3.9m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 7 (2010): 4.7m [inc. +1]

CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 8 (2011): 3.2m
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 9 (2012): 3.4m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 10 (2012): 2.5m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 11 (2013): 3.6m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 12 (2013): 2.6m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 13 (2014): 3.7m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 14 (2014): 2.5m [inc. +1]
CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 15 (2015): 3.0m [inc. +1]

[nonstop]

2.15

[Ashley.]

My crystal ball says 2.7

[MB.]

2.15

Million or people?

[EspeonBB]

I predict 2.5M for the launch night

[Oaker]

I say 2.7-2.8M on Launch since they are actually promoting it (from what I have heard)

[mrmattybeck1]

2m I reckon

[mrmattybeck1]

Live feed is back partly so hopefully that should be good

[Babayaro.]

2.2 million i'm going with

[mrmattybeck1]

Let's hope we don't get another ratings crisis like bbuk

[Jarrod]

Let's hope we don't get another ratings crisis like bbuk

There was no crisis. If there was a "crisis", the show would have been pulled altogether. The show did badly due to the early start and pointless twists.

[mrmattybeck1]

There was no crisis. If there was a "crisis", the show would have been pulled altogether. The show did badly due to the early start and pointless twists.
Hope your right promotion was shocking

[Jake.]

2.3 for the launch

[Will.]

There was no crisis. If there was a "crisis", the show would have been pulled altogether. The show did badly due to the early start and pointless twists.

exactly, it only lost 150k, averaging 1.37 overall but thats not the official average, Channel 5 haven't released it.


Theres been good promo on TV for the new series, seen quite adverts.

[Jason.]

Launch = 2.6m
Series Average = 1.9m

[Will.]

Im guessing

2.9 official launch
and 2.2 offical average

[Jason.]

I haven't seen much promo for this series, but then again. I haven't watched much TV in the last week soo

[Will.]

I haven't seen much promo for this series, but then again. I haven't watched much TV in the last week soo

yeah, whilst watching some shows on MTV theres been a lot, at least every 30 mins. Not sure about magazine/radio as haven't looked/listened recently.

[Jason.]

The reason why I said 1.9m is because I noticed a pattern in the all the summer CBB's with the exception of CBB8, that the summer CBB usually rates 0.4m-0.6m higher than the civilian series it follows. With BB16 averaging around 1.4m and presuming the same pattern occurs, CBB16 should average around 1.9m/2.0m.

Not to mention, the fact that it's going to be on throughout roughly the whole of September may hinder the ratings as school and work may get in the way. And the late start.

[Will.]

The reason why I said 1.9m is because I noticed a pattern in the all the summer CBB's with the exception of CBB8, that the summer CBB usually rates 0.4m-0.6m higher than the civilian series it follows. With BB16 averaging around 1.4m and presuming the same pattern occurs, CBB16 should average around 1.9m/2.0m.

Not to mention, the fact that it's going to be on throughout roughly the whole of September may hinder the ratings as school and work may get in the way. And the late start.

Yep, although it seems CBB will be on a 9pm, at least for the the first week, I love it when its at 9, it will be interesting to see considering 10,12 and 14 and 14 weren't so late in the year.

[Jason.]

The CBB12 launch did well at 3.2m.

[Will.]

The CBB12 launch did well at 3.2m.

I really liked CBB12 launch, had a great buzz to it after BB14.

CBB10 launch was also really good, Cheryl and Julie :love:


CBB14 launch was really bad tbh, it felt really under wealming, and got boring if I remember correctly.

[Ashley.]

Million or people?

I can't imagine 15% of a person sitting down to watch CBB with their family

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I actually think it will launch pretty high tbh.

I think people will be very intrigued with the new direction its taken its not the same old same old and theres been a nice little break since BB16 ended plus im seeing it promoted everywhere. I work from home so the tv is allways on in the background and Viacom are heavily promoting it on all their channels especially during FRIENDS and its on almost every ad break on MTV plus obviously its being promoted daily on the Channel 5 channels.

Some billboards would be a nice surprise but with only a week to go I guess that's not going to happen but theres been promo with guests on This Morning talking about CBB I personally think Eeamon Holmes will be entering.

Im going to go with a 2.8 launch and that's an overnight with an official of 3.1 and a 2.5 average the rumoured cast are sure to cause a lot of drama.

[mrmattybeck1]

I actually think it will launch pretty high tbh.

I think people will be very intrigued with the new direction its taken its not the same old same old and theres been a nice little break since BB16 ended plus im seeing it promoted everywhere. I work from home so the tv is allways on in the background and Viacom are heavily promoting it on all their channels especially during FRIENDS and its on almost every ad break on MTV plus obviously its being promoted daily on the Channel 5 channels.

Some billboards would be a nice surprise but with only a week to go I guess that's not going to happen but theres been promo with guests on This Morning talking about CBB I personally think Eeamon Holmes will be entering.

Im going to go with a 2.8 launch and that's an overnight with an official of 3.1 and a 2.5 average the rumoured cast are sure to cause a lot of drama.
Agree just wish c5 would promote bbuk as well

[Will.]

I actually think it will launch pretty high tbh.

I think people will be very intrigued with the new direction its taken its not the same old same old and theres been a nice little break since BB16 ended plus im seeing it promoted everywhere. I work from home so the tv is allways on in the background and Viacom are heavily promoting it on all their channels especially during FRIENDS and its on almost every ad break on MTV plus obviously its being promoted daily on the Channel 5 channels.

Some billboards would be a nice surprise but with only a week to go I guess that's not going to happen but theres been promo with guests on This Morning talking about CBB I personally think Eeamon Holmes will be entering.

Im going to go with a 2.8 launch and that's an overnight with an official of 3.1 and a 2.5 average the rumoured cast are sure to cause a lot of drama.

haven't been watching much TV apart from Ex On The Beach, EE and Katie Hopkins, great thats it's been well promoted on TV.

I think you may be right on the people be intrigued! :clap1:

[Will.]

Not much competition at 9PM on Thursday:

BBC One - Who Do You Think You Are?
BBC Two - World's Busiest Railway
ITV - Stephen Fry In Central America
Channel 4 - Secret History

So should do well, none of the shows really appeal to the type of BB audience.

[Oaker]

So they actually picked a good date to Launch for once?

[Will.]

So they actually picked a good date to Launch for once?

yep, across multi channels there nothing either really, ITV2/Be theres no TOWIE or any reality shows like that.

[MB.]

#tbt to the BB14 launch being trounced by The Secret Life of Cats

[Will.]

#tbt to the BB14 launch being trounced by The Secret Life of Cats

Psycho Pussies: When Cats Attack

[Will.]

Think CBB14 had quite a bit of competition on launch?

[MB.]

(there's something called Skinny Brides to Fat Wives scheduled just prior to the launch because of course there is)

[Will.]

(there's something called Skinny Brides to Fat Wives scheduled just prior to the launch because of course there is)

classy :clap1:

[MB.]

Think CBB14 had quite a bit of competition on launch?

It was up against New Tricks, and apparently began at 9.05pm for a reason I've since forgotten. CBB15 was originally scheduled to launch up against Broadchurch, which as far as TV scheduling goes is the equivalent of, oh, I don't know, forgetting about a general election. Ahem.

[Will.]

It was up against New Tricks, and apparently began at 9.05pm for a reason I've since forgotten. CBB15 was originally scheduled to launch up against Broadchurch, which as far as TV scheduling goes is the equivalent of, oh, I don't know, forgetting about a general election. Ahem.

lmao, I remember CBB14 at 9:05! flop!

There finally choosing a lunch date which is perfect for competition.

Pre BB16 was a complete mess.

Pre CBB16 on the other hand is great - finding out all the details 3/4 in advance and not 2 weeks like BB16.

CBB12 had a bit of competition I think, but still rated high on Thursday.

[jackc1806]

Revising my prediction down a whole 400k...

2.0-2.1m tops...

[Pete.]

I'm thinking 2.5m?

[jackc1806]

I'm thinking 2.5m?

That was my original but idk if there's been enough promo to justify a 1m ish rise on the BB final apart from it being CBB

[Pete.]

That was my original but idk if there's been enough promo to justify a 1m ish rise on the BB final apart from it being CBB
I always think low and then remember that CBB13 somehow managed 3.1m

[Jason.]

What do we think tonight will rate then?

[Will.]

2.3, could be higher, it will be interesting considering it's launching late and the near 2 month gap between BB16 and this series.

so low of 2.3

high of mid 2.5

[MB.]

Just below 2m overnight maybe? I'm hoping that's just me being naturally pessimistic...

[Jason.]

I'm thinking around 2.4m.

[*mazedsalv**]

I just don't see it doing well at all. I'm worried it won't even hit 2m.

[Rob!]

I think it'll be comfortably over 2m - maybe 2.4? There really wasn't any competition on the other channels.
I think tomorrow may be the dud ratings - launch's normally do alright but this is a really unknown cast that may turn a lot of people off. Hopefully Janice will sort that out.

[Oaker]

I think it'll be comfortably over 2m - maybe 2.4? There really wasn't any competition on the other channels.
I think tomorrow may be the dud ratings - launch's normally do alright but this is a really unknown cast that may turn a lot of people off. Hopefully Janice will sort that out.

They were smart and actually announced Janice tonight so I think it may rate well.

[Will.]

They were smart and actually announced Janice tonight so I think it may rate well.

Hope we get a rating for live feed, love to see what it got.

[Will.]

Hope its done well

[Basmah98]

Slightly better than last yeas, does anyone know how CBB12 got 3.18m? It was only two years ago so can't see why it can't get that now with using whatever they used to attract that rating for a summer cbb.

[Will.]

I think it's done better than last year

[jackc1806]

2.2m- not sure if it includes +1

[jackc1806]

#CelebrityBigBrother 2hr live launch from 9pm on C5 avged 2.2m/12.7% in line with 2014's 2.4m/12.4% @endemolshine http://t.co/DSYC3PhVGB

[RichardG]

2.2m- not sure if it includes +1

Is that good? It doesn't sound good for a CBB launch show when the main series episode always rate even lower

[jackc1806]

Beat the share of last year at least

[mrmattybeck1]

About what I throught slightly disappointing

[Jake.]

2.2 with a 12.7% share, last year had 2.4 with a 12.3% share

[jackc1806]

Is that good? It doesn't sound good for a CBB launch show when the main series episode always rate even lower

Summer CBB launches pull in like 1m less than winter launches

[mrmattybeck1]

Bots 740,000

[mrmattybeck1]

Anyone know what live feed got

[jackc1806]

About what I throught slightly disappointing

Meh, it's what happens when you don't promote and do like 1000 series a year. It's alright considering Timebomb flopped

[mrmattybeck1]

Meh, it's what happens when you don't promote and do like 1000 series a year. It's alright considering Timebomb flopped
Agree really wish they would go back to one cbb in January and normal summer cbb in June

[RichardG]

If it's average then average is good I guess, but the totally unknown cast might put a lot of people off. I have a feeling it could drop in viewers quite quickly. Let's be honest, to many this is basically another civilian series. :laugh:

[jackc1806]

If it's average then average is good I guess, but the totally unknown cast might put a lot of people off. I have a feeling it could drop in viewers quite quickly. Let's be honest, to many this is basically another civilian series. :laugh:

If it drops to 10% share it'll be like 1.7-1.8m ish

[Ashley.]

The Thursday launch may have hurt the ratings a little. I think tonight may rate good too.

[Rob!]

I think tonight will drop quite a lot - the cast really is quite obscure and the twist last night was tedious. I hope not though, I have high hopes for this series.
2.2m isn't bad at all, channel 5 will be happy with that.

[Rob!]

2.2m is with +1, but it wasn't a massive increase from the 2.15m it got originally.
Second in the 9pm slot by quite a fair margin. BB beating Stephen Fry :clap1:

[MB.]

That's fine. A good share, too.

[JohnnyBB]

Possibly might not lose as much veiwers tonight as its a live show, launch raitings are abit naff considering it's had good publicity.

[Jason.]

2.2m is quite disappointing, TBH. I would've thought because:

a) It was only 2 years ago when CBB12 was launching with 3.2m, which is 1m more.
b) It's lower than last years CBB14 launch which averaged 2.8m.
c) It had a gap whereas the above launched 3 days after the civilian series. The gap meant more promotion and media attention for CBB, so you'd think it would rate higher.
d) That 2.2m is lower than the BB14/BB15 launches. To think a civilian series last year launched higher than a summer celebrity series, which usually rates around half a million more.

It'll probably go up to 2.4m in officials, but that's still a low rating, or am I just being negative? :worry:

Good share, though.

[mrmattybeck1]

2.2m is quite disappointing, TBH. I would've thought because:

a) It was only 2 years ago when CBB12 was launching with 3.2m, which is 1m more.
b) It's lower than last years CBB14 launch which averaged 2.8m.
c) It had a gap whereas the above launched 3 days after the civilian series. The gap meant more promotion and media attention for CBB, so you'd think it would rate higher.
d) That 2.2m is lower than the BB14/BB15 launches. To think a civilian series last year launched higher than a summer celebrity series, which usually rates around half a million more.

It'll probably go up to 2.4m in officials, but that's still a low rating, or am I just being negative? :worry:

Good share, though.
Generally all shows are now declining year on year apart from bake off it seems 1m in a few years will be the new 3m

[jackc1806]

2.2m is quite disappointing, TBH. I would've thought because:

a) It was only 2 years ago when CBB12 was launching with 3.2m, which is 1m more.
b) It's lower than last years CBB14 launch which averaged 2.8m.
c) It had a gap whereas the above launched 3 days after the civilian series. The gap meant more promotion and media attention for CBB, so you'd think it would rate higher.
d) That 2.2m is lower than the BB14/BB15 launches. To think a civilian series last year launched higher than a summer celebrity series, which usually rates around half a million more.

It'll probably go up to 2.4m in officials, but that's still a low rating, or am I just being negative? :worry:

Good share, though.

CBB14 was 2.4m overnight

[Jason.]

CBB14 was 2.4m overnight

It rated 2.8m officially. The overnight figure is always lower than the official rating and the official is one taken into account.

[jackc1806]

It rated 2.8m officially. The overnight figure is always lower than the official rating and the official is one taken into account.

Yeah but you can't compare overnights with officials. It's 200k down in overnights which isn't that bad, wait til the officials to compare officials

[Jason.]

Yeah but you can't compare overnights with officials. It's 200k down in overnights which isn't that bad, wait til the officials to compare officials

It'll still be lower though, lbr.

[jackc1806]

It'll still be lower though, lbr.

Yeah, probably by 200k :laugh:

[Will.]

decent, BB14 had 500k more viewers than BB16 so 2.2 is good considering BB16.

[Rob!]

It'll probably fall to about 1.6 tonight and then settle around the 1.4 mark.

[mrmattybeck1]

Is their another ratings crisis

[Will.]

Is their another ratings crisis

No there is no ratings crisis.

[lewis111]

I was expecting below 2 million. Hope tonight will do quite well as well

[mrmattybeck1]

No there is no ratings crisis.
Your throught their was with the way ppl go on

[EspeonBB]

The launch rating isn't that bad. Obviously it's down on last year but viewership in general is continuously declining year-to-year. I did think the success of CBB15 and the fact they did promo for it would cause higher ratings though

[MB.]

Is their another ratings crisis

Your throught their was with the way ppl go on

erm

[Ashley.]

Your throught their was with the way ppl go on

I really want to understand what you're saying. :/

[Will.]

Your throught their was with the way ppl go on

IMO not really, the line up is very good for entertainment and they should make a fab series.

The UK line up is decent, a few well known faces, Sherrie, Gail, Bobby and Chris are all Celebs and we won't get that much bigger for CBB overall.


The US line up is amazing, there going to make this series, obvs there not that famous apart from Janice really, but we won't really know any of the USA ones unless it's a huge name.

Like if we went to US and said do you know of sherrie Hewson to an American they wouldn't know, when in the UK she's well known - there mostly famous in their own country.

I really think this series will be great, as Petemitch said the whole of last night was more exciting than the whole 10 weeks of BB16.

I think that a lot will tune back in as we all known what this series will probs be like, plus the whole task last night with Farrah and Tash was brilliant and should make people continue to watch.

IMO I think there's a real buzz/great feel about this series which BB16 didn't have.

[Jason.]

Will speaking sense :clap2:

I just hope it's not one of those series which start out fantastically well, and fizzle out after the first or second week like CBB14 and to some extent CBB15 (which became more tiresome if anything). I remember people saying the first few days of CBB14 were more entertaining than the awful BB15 last summer, but look how that series turned out.

:fc:

[Will.]

Will speaking sense :clap2:

I just hope it's not one of those series which start out fantastically well, and fizzle out after the first or second week like CBB14 and to some extent CBB15 (which became more tiresome if anything). I remember people saying the first few days of CBB14 were more entertaining than the awful BB15 last summer, but look how that series turned out.

:fc:

Very true! I think it would be difficult for the series to fizzle out with the cast as there aren't really any "bores" - well hopefully.

If I remember with CBB14 on launch I thought Audrey, George, Edele, David, Lauren and Ricci would be bores.

Like it felt like they had just been fillers and there wasn't really a reason to why they were selected to enter if that make sense.

Like the reality TV contestants this year you can tell have been put it for a reason I think.

CBB12 and CBB14 had Mario and Charlotte and Lauren and Ricci, the only one that bought any entertainment was Charlotte, it's almost as if bosses just copied the CBB12 line up for CBB14 with a transgender, one from TOWIE and Geordie etc but just different people.

The whole CBB16 line up seems to have been chosen for a reason.

CBB16 line up hasn't followed any series, its unique like CBB10.

[mrmattybeck1]

So far so good I'm really enjoying it apart from the lame tasks

[daniel-lewis-1985]

2.2m is quite disappointing, TBH. I would've thought because:

a) It was only 2 years ago when CBB12 was launching with 3.2m, which is 1m more.
b) It's lower than last years CBB14 launch which averaged 2.8m.
c) It had a gap whereas the above launched 3 days after the civilian series. The gap meant more promotion and media attention for CBB, so you'd think it would rate higher.
d) That 2.2m is lower than the BB14/BB15 launches. To think a civilian series last year launched higher than a summer celebrity series, which usually rates around half a million more.

It'll probably go up to 2.4m in officials, but that's still a low rating, or am I just being negative? :worry:

Good share, though.

You are comparing the overnight to the officials in the start of your post! CBB14 launched with 2.4 overnight so only 200k higher and after the car crash of BB15.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Is their another ratings crisis

And you say im negative about the show?

**** me #Irony

[mrmattybeck1]

1.4m for cbb last night

[RichardG]

That's pretty bad :worry:

[mrmattybeck1]

Very poor rating getting more like the bbuk numbers

[RichardG]

And that's the figure for the show after launch, usually they drop even lower as the next few episodes air. :laugh: Even some BB14 highlights were getting higher numbers than that.

[lewis111]

Ahh that is awful, for a 2nd launch/twist live show and for a CBB episode in general

[jackc1806]

Summer BB/CBB is dead tbh :laugh:

January CBB would benefit from being only once a year, with a PROMOTED BB in summer

[RichardG]

Honestly they're never going to make logical decisions with this show, they won't listen and they'll run it even further into the ground next year.

[Pete.]

I blame that cannon

[mrmattybeck1]

I blame channel 5

[Will.]

1.4 without +1, so about 1.5-6 depending on how big the +1 was.

It's only probs a 150k down on CBB14 second show show which got 1.75M (11.5%).

So:

CBB second show show:


CBB14: 1.75
CBB16: around 1.5

[Will.]

Just looking at the CBB12 ratings and there very strange, like some got 1.4 and then others got 2.2M, a very wide broad of ratings for a series.

For example the Friday live twist show got 2.15 but ONLY A 11.1% share.

And then a Wednesday eviction only got 1.33M (second part) but 13.3%.

The first Sunday highlight show got 1.67M (8.1%).

So they were all other the place, no consistent rating.

http://www.bbspy.co.uk/cbb12/ratings

CBB14 ratings on the other hand were consistent between 1.6-9 overnight.

The first Friday got 1.99 - (10.8%)
and then next Friday got 2.0M (9.6%).

http://www.bbspy.co.uk/cbb14/ratings/overnight

[Rob!]

Not surprising really. The line up didn't impress. Urgh and it's Saturday today - has CBB gone below 1m before?
Amazing retention rate for BOTS though -740k, pretty much identical to it's launch show.

[Will.]

yeah it's not amazing but nothing we've not seen, the +1 could be like 250k and put it on par with CBB14.

IMO I think this line up is one that will make people continue to watch but maybe not.

I've actually enjoyed BOTS this season so far.

[Will.]

I bet The X Factor will flop

[Rob!]

I bet The X Factor will flop

I hope so, I can't stand it. But it's got a long way to fall before it can be considered a flop sadly.

[mrmattybeck1]

This is the cbb ratings thread x factor gets triple the cbb ratings

[Rob!]

+1 took BB up to 1.5m last night - live feed got 439k

[daniel-lewis-1985]

OMG that's terrible :( I knew it would drop but not by that much.

I put it down to the drawn out and cheap twist of night one......Seriously plastic footballs shot out of a glued together mdf cannon covered in childrens glitter it was hardly what we were promised and last nights twist was not "AWESOME" as Emma said it would be unless people find people holding as many items as they can riveting Idk?

Sadly tonight may be the first time CBB as fallen below a million and it annoys me so much that people don't tune in on Saturday it doesn't make sense plus most of the arguments annoyingly happen to fall on a Saturday highlight show like tonight we will se Austin and Janice going at it.

I really hope the cast can pull in viewers before its to late because BB has a very small time to claw back lost viewers seeing as they feel they have missed nost of it once a week or 2 have past so no point tuning in now.

#PrayForCbbRatings

BOTS did well though its nuts it gets the same or more than The Xtra Factor which comes off the back of like 9 million people and live feed did well in its time slot but shame they didn't promote the extra 1 hour 5 minutes it continued over on 5*.

[Rob!]

Sticking it on at 10:30pm might save it actually - the prime time is a messy time for ratings on a Saturday, the late time may raise it up from what it would be. Time will tell I guess.

[Matt]

Ratings for the launch show on TV3 in Ireland:

Average: 150,500 viewers inc +1 (Timebomb had 103,400 on 3e)
Peak: 172,000 viewers
Reach: 448,100 viewers

http://www.bbspy.co.uk/cbb16/news/0828/celebrity-big-brother-uk-vs-usa-launches-with-2-2million-viewers-channel-5-150k-ireland-tv3

[Will.]

This is the cbb ratings thread x factor gets triple the cbb ratings

yes I know...

[Will.]

OMG that's terrible :( I knew it would drop but not by that much.

I put it down to the drawn out and cheap twist of night one......Seriously plastic footballs shot out of a glued together mdf cannon covered in childrens glitter it was hardly what we were promised and last nights twist was not "AWESOME" as Emma said it would be unless people find people holding as many items as they can riveting Idk?

Sadly tonight may be the first time CBB as fallen below a million and it annoys me so much that people don't tune in on Saturday it doesn't make sense plus most of the arguments annoyingly happen to fall on a Saturday highlight show like tonight we will se Austin and Janice going at it.

I really hope the cast can pull in viewers before its to late because BB has a very small time to claw back lost viewers seeing as they feel they have missed nost of it once a week or 2 have past so no point tuning in now.

#PrayForCbbRatings

BOTS did well though its nuts it gets the same or more than The Xtra Factor which comes off the back of like 9 million people and live feed did well in its time slot but shame they didn't promote the extra 1 hour 5 minutes it continued over on *5.

I agree totally with the twists, they could have some real fun with them as it's UK vs USA instead of this tacky ones.

[Will.]

It got 1.56 with +1, 190k down on last year.

4th in it's slot at 9-10pm, beat ITV by 300k.

everything was low last night, nothing reached over 3M.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Can we please not post the viewing figures until we get the +1.

1.56 aint that bad its not great but its passable as ok.

Its depressing logging in to see such low figures so please just when plus 1's are released as we allways used to anyway.

I don't know why we cant add the Irish figure to the rating also seeing as they are actually over 100k watching and just being ignored because what they're Irish? lol

[Jason.]

Yeah, I'm not really a massive fan of these twists either. They're just dissapointing and meaningless games which are easy and are nowhere near as good as Emma makes them out to be.

Like, by the sounds of things I was expecting a war with Janice and Bobby that you "wouldn't want to miss" as promised, when in reality, they answered a few easy questions, got electric shocks, downed a nasty shot, and glued as many items to themselves as possible :umm2:

But then again, CBB launch night twists have always been pointless and just something for fun, whereas in BB they matter more.

[Jason.]

I bet The X Factor will flop

I don't watch it anymore, but the ratings are still good for it. It rates like around 9/10m. TBF, I consider it a flop considering it used rate around 13/15m like 5/6 years ago.

[Mitchell]

They're gonna need to replace Tila with a ratings puller...

[Jason.]

1.56m is quite bad, considering some highlights during BB14 rated higher as somebody else already mentioned. But it could be worse. TBF, I think this series will rate similar to how BB14 rated, and will probably average around 1.9m officially.

[Jason.]

has CBB gone below 1m before?


I don't think it has, unless the people who are willing to defend that number mention Celebrity Hijack? :shrug:

[Jamesy]

Thing is given how childish and trashy this theme is are we surprised figures are lower than usual? Everyone I've spoken to that watched the launch thought it was tacky, crap and a really unnecessary theme. Can't blame people switching off when this show is becoming more like a year 9 media project by the day. Channel 5 really need to learn that this approach does not keep people engaged, this show really needs to be simplified, firstly by getting rid of these cheesy themes.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Tonights rating will be terrible I had no idea it was on at 10:30!!!!

[armand.kay]

People on my Twitter feed didn't even know it was on lol

[armand.kay]

They thought it wasn't on today and I had to inform them.

[Jason.]

Tonights rating will be terrible I had no idea it was on at 10:30!!!!

Emma said at the end of last nights show to tune in tommorow at 10.30.

[MB.]

Is anyone actually expecting above 1 million tonight

[Rob!]

Nope. Shame cause it was a really good episode.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Nope. Shame cause it was a really good episode.

Brilliant episode.

[Jason.]

They should've aired the highlights at 9.30 after X Factor and put the CBB Best Bits at 10.30 instead.

[mrmattybeck1]

A disaster of just 910k last night

[MB.]

They should've aired the highlights at 9.30 after X Factor and put the CBB Best Bits at 10.30 instead.

They couldn't, that's when the Football League Show was on.

A disaster of just 910k last night

I'm surprised it was that high.

[Will.]

Not good, last years first Saturday got 1.2M with +1, so it's probs about 150k down on last years.

Hopefully tonight will do well!

I'm really enjoying it so far.

[Blog Rider]

They need to get rid of the Summer CBB and cut the normal series to just the summer holidays, Then stop medding with silly twists and have full live feed. If that doesn't work get rid of Big Brother all together.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Literally what BB16 was getting that is unacceptable for CBB.

Terrible and a shame seeing as it was such a brilliant episode.

[LukeB]

what was the ratings?

[RichardG]

If it carries on in the pattern it's going and does even worse next year surely there's no chance the contract will get renewed? These figures are appealing for CBB, summer season or not. With all the money they pay to get the celebs i'll bet they expect more in return than 910k...

[Jason.]

If it carries on in the pattern it's going and does even worse next year surely there's no chance the contract will get renewed? These figures are appealing for CBB, summer season or not. With all the money they pay to get the celebs i'll bet they expect more in return than 910k...

Pretty much this.

By the look of things, BB14 is currently rating higher than this series. I mean you know there's something wrong when a civilian series two years ago is getting more ratings than a celebrity version which usually rates considerably higher than BB regardless.

[Will.]

What are we thinking for tonight?

It seems this series is 150/200k down on last year.

So last years first Sunday got 1.9.

So I'm guessing 1.7

[Rob!]

Urgh God.

Well - 10:30pm is the latest BB has ever gone out. It's also a bank holiday weekend. It's on at 10:30 every Saturday so as people get used to that, Saturdays may go up.
I'm not defending it, that's with +1 after all and it's the lowest CBB rating ever. Let's not panic TOO much yet though.

[mrmattybeck1]

They should just carry on with cbb January and rest the summer versions for a while

[mrmattybeck1]

Urgh God.

Well - 10:30pm is the latest BB has ever gone out. It's also a bank holiday weekend. It's on at 10:30 every Saturday so as people get used to that, Saturdays may go up.
I'm not defending it, that's with +1 after all and it's the lowest CBB rating ever. Let's not panic TOO much yet though.
It's weird because January cbb does so well

[Jason.]

What are we thinking for tonight?

It seems this series is 150/200k down on last year.

So last years first Sunday got 1.9.

So I'm guessing 1.7

I'll be optimistic and say 1.8m including +1.

[Jason.]

It's no surprise the ratings are down this summer due to many factors such as the shoddy production, less viewership, and probably because people have lost interest in the show.

I wonder if CBB17 in January will rate as highly as CBB13/15, given that recently all BB series have been dropping in ratings.

[Will.]

Yeah CBB17 will be interesting, but then BB15 had average/not that good ratings and CBB15 still managed to get 3.1M official.

I think Winter CBB will always be good/rate decently.

Summer CBB rates good for CH5 terms, if it can continue to get 1.6-1.9 overnight except Saturday then it's fine I think.

I kind of feel annoyed for this series.

This series has been good so far and they've given us way more live feed than normal and are updating their social media accounts more.

[Rob!]

Do you think 1.6m tonight? I think 1.4 +1 is more realistic but I hope I'm wrong.

[Will.]

Do you think 1.6m tonight? I think 1.4 +1 is more realistic but I hope I'm wrong.

I'm not sure TBH, it's on at 9pm, not much competition apart from a new ITV drama but that might not rate high.

A new game show on BBC2 that will probably flop. Marigold film on CH4 and drama on BBC One.

But tbh it should do decent as this is the first show were we won't see some of what we've already seen.

Friday and Sat we saw repeats of what we already saw.

[Rob!]

I'm not sure TBH, it's on at 9pm, not much competition apart from a new ITV drama but that might not rate high.

A new game show on BBC2 that will probably flop. Marigold film on CH4 and drama on BBC One.

But tbh it should do decent as this is the first show were we won't see some of what we've already seen.

Friday and Sat we saw repeats of what we already saw.

About 2 minutes of what we've already seen - the rest of it was unseen footage.

Has there been any ratings for the live feed on 5*?

[Will.]

yeah I know it was like 2 mins but viewers tend to think it's a repeat, but its not.

No, oh wait we got one I think, it was like 480k?

[Rob!]

yeah I know it was like 2 mins but viewers tend to think it's a repeat, but its not.

No, oh wait we got one I think, it was like 480k?

That was for the feed on the main channel.

[Will.]

That was for the feed on the main channel.

yeah I thought so, not sure then.

Quick note that the share for last night was higher than 1.2 Saturday last year, and the CBB14 rating is with +1 share.

So like the XF is getting lower ratings but same/higher share.

[Jason.]

Yeah CBB17 will be interesting, but then BB15 had average/not that good ratings and CBB15 still managed to get 3.1M official.

I think Winter CBB will always be good/rate decently.

Summer CBB rates good for CH5 terms, if it can continue to get 1.6-1.9 overnight except Saturday then it's fine I think.

I kind of feel annoyed for this series.

This series has been good so far and they've given us way more live feed than normal and are updating their social media accounts more.

BB15's ratings were not that bad, TBH. They looked bad at the time because it followed BB14, which averaged 1.9m and CBB13 which averaged 3.1m - both being the highest rated series on C5 at the time. So 1.6m looked dissapointing considering we had two highest rated series before it. But it rated okay for a C5 series considering BB12 and BB13 also rated the same. It's BB16's ratings that were actually awful and at the low end of the 1m mark.

I personally think 1.6-1.9m is awful for a summer CBB as it's practically averaging the same as a BB series was 2/3 years ago, when the reason we have summer CBB is because it brings in extra viewers. If it's going to bring in 1.6-1.9m, they might as well axe summer CBB as it's not worth it and just have the civilian version in the summer which would bring similar ratings to it if they bothered putting more effort into it.

[Will.]

BB15's ratings were not that bad, TBH. They looked bad at the time because it followed BB14, which averaged 1.9m and CBB13 which averaged 3.1m - both being the highest rated series on C5 at the time. So 1.6m looked dissapointing considering we had two highest rated series before it. But it rated okay for a C5 series considering BB12 and BB13 also rated the same. It's BB16's ratings that were actually awful and at the low end of the 1m mark.

I personally think 1.6-1.9m is awful for a summer CBB as it's practically averaging the same as a BB series was 2/3 years ago, when the reason we have summer CBB is because it brings in extra viewers. If it's going to bring in 1.6-1.9m, they might as well axe summer CBB as it's not worth it and just have the civilian version in the summer which would bring similar ratings to it if they bothered putting more effort into it.

1.6-1.9 isn't official though, it would get between 2.1-2.3 officials which is 800k higher than BB.

yeah CBB Summer is a little pointless, this series is a lot better so far.

BB15 ratings were decent tbh, it wasn't even that bad of a series looking bad. Just a few flaws.

[Oaker]

1.6-1.9 isn't official though, it would get between 2.1-2.3 officials which is 800k higher than BB.

yeah CBB Summer is a little pointless, this series is a lot better so far.

BB15 ratings were decent tbh, it wasn't even that bad of a series looking bad. Just a few flaws.

Debatable

[Jason.]

1.6-1.9 isn't official though, it would get between 2.1-2.3 officials which is 800k higher than BB.

yeah CBB Summer is a little pointless, this series is a lot better so far.

BB15 ratings were decent tbh, it wasn't even that bad of a series looking bad. Just a few flaws.

Also, CBB15 rated well because of the anticipation from CBB13 the year before which was successful (similar to how CBB5 launched to a great rating following the success of CBB4 the year before) as well the cast which had a lot of big names like Katie Price and Katie Hopkins. Plus, CBB15 had a lot of media coverage and controversy surrounding Katie Hopkins and Perez Hilton as well as other shows like This Morning (on ITV) talking about the show and having evicted housemates being interviewed which was good promo for the show. Not to mention the CBB15 promo was fantastic.

CBB15 would've got 3.2m had the final week not declined in ratings.

[Ashley.]

I wonder what will happen with Bobby tonight? He's supposed to be in control of the House but he hasn't done anything according to the twitter updates. Not even a mention.

If there was a twist then the ratings would be up but they haven't mentioned anything.

[Oaker]

I wonder what will happen with Bobby tonight? He's supposed to be in control of the House but he hasn't done anything according to the twitter updates. Not even a mention.

If there's an eviction on Tuesday he/everyone will have to nominate tonight so I guess we will know what's happening by tomorrow.

[Will.]

Also, CBB15 rated well because of the anticipation from CBB13 the year before which was successful (similar to how CBB5 launched to a great rating following the success of CBB4 the year before) as well the cast which had a lot of big names like Katie Price and Katie Hopkins. Plus, CBB15 had a lot of media coverage and controversy surrounding Katie Hopkins and Perez Hilton as well as other shows like This Morning (on ITV) talking about the show and having evicted housemates being interviewed which was good promo for the show. Not to mention the CBB15 promo was fantastic.

CBB15 would've got 3.2m had the final week not declined in ratings.

yeah CBB15 was great, I wonder who they will get for CBB17 to make it as good?

CBB15 promo was fab, it was everywhere.

[Ashley.]

If there's an eviction on Tuesday he/everyone will have to nominate tonight so I guess we will know what's happening by tomorrow.

Yeah. Emma said that there will be lots of twists happening over the weekend but we've had none.

[MrWong]

1.17m for last nights CBB :eek:

[mrmattybeck1]

1.17m for last nights CBB :eek:
Moving bbuk to may and giving cbb a bigger break was such a mistake

[MB.]

If there's an eviction on Tuesday he/everyone will have to nominate tonight so I guess we will know what's happening by tomorrow.

There isn't

(if they're going to carry on with BB at all after this, they should have learnt by now that summer CBB is a really bad idea)

[MrWong]

Moving bbuk to may and giving cbb a bigger break was such a mistake

Summer BB being utter ****e probably didn't help either.

[mrmattybeck1]

Summer BB being utter ****e probably didn't help either.
It's OK but I'm tired of the themes I normal bb without a theme would be nice

[Will.]

not great again, it's such a good series though.

wonder what XF got.

[MrWong]

not great again, it's such a good series though.

wonder what XF got.

6.47m apparently.

[Will.]

6.47m apparently.

very low for XF.

[Rob!]

X factor is doing abysmally so far - Simon Cowell will be having a fit.

But as for CBB - without +1 it got 1.03m which is lower than the majority of Timebomb was getting. It needs to start climbing from here otherwise we're going to be getting another 4in4out twist :(

[Will.]

hopefully it will climb, everything is falling.

[Will.]

The only show thats holding strong atm is The Great British Bake Off.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Absolutely shocking!

Its literally getting Timebomb ratings......,That may be a good thing for the civilian series though if it can match a celebrity series.

Everything seems down though X Factor is doing awful its getting the same ratings as Emmerdale!

But seriously Sunday is allways the highest rated highlights show so I am shocked at how low it rated.

Makes BB15 look like a blockbuster.

[Rob!]

Absolutely shocking!

Its literally getting lower Timebomb ratings......,That may be a good thing for the civilian series though if it can match a celebrity series.

Everything seems down though X Factor is doing awful its getting the same ratings as Emmerdale!

Seriously though Sunday is allways the highest rated highlights show so I am shocked at how low it rated.

Makes BB15 look like a blockbuster.


Casualty beat X factor last night - the only thing that saved it was the fact that ITV can add on HD and +1 figures. 4.98m for X factor without them last night - pretty god damn awful.

As for CBB - once again we find ourselves in a position where we have a good series, a great mix of housemates that is probably going to end up ruined because the producers will chase ratings.

[Jason.]

I'm annoyed this series is getting bad ratings as it has been really good for a summer CBB, IMO. And way better than the first week of CBB14.

But at the same time, I'm also happy as I think this will give producers a slap in the face as to why they feel the need to have two CBB series a year when the summer one is pointless. So with these low ratings, maybe they'll scrap it in the future and stick to the traditional one CBB in January and BB in June :fc:

[Will.]

I'm annoyed this series is getting bad ratings as it has been really good for a summer CBB, IMO. And way better than the first week of CBB14.

But at the same time, I'm also happy as I think this will give producers a slap in the face as to why they feel the need to have two CBB series a year when the summer one is pointless. So with these low ratings, maybe they'll scrap it in the future and stick to the traditional one CBB in January and BB in June :fc:

Preach :clap1:

It's really annoying, if this was winter CBB it would be doing great!

[Will.]

Every show seems to be doing awful

[RichardG]

The fact that it's airing in the summer obviously doesn't help at all as shown by the January series doing so much better but didn't past summer seasons like CBB10/12 average at 2m? At least from memory I don't remember any of the past ones doing so abysmally in the overnight so can time of year really be the only factor here? I don't know if the status of the celebs is putting people off as well or if people are just getting bored of this kind of TV or something cause XF is supposedly doing badly too.

[Jason.]

CBB10/12 both did really well and averaged like 2.2/2.3m respectively - which was only 0.5m down on the January series they followed. Bearing in mind back then the civilian version was also getting more than 1.5m

I think it's a combination of all those things TBH. I think TV viewership is decreasing each year - most people don't even watch live TV anymore and it's all about Catchup now. I mean even X Factor and other shows' ratings are down. I also think people have lost interest in the show given the shoddy production we've had in the last two years. And I think the lack of big names might have left people unimpressed. I mean CBB15 did well because of names like Katie Hopkins, Katie Price, and Perez Hilton. Not to mention the launch was one of the most tackiest things I've ever seen and that awful cannon game probably made people tune off and not even bother, who can blame them?

[Will.]

CBB 14 averaged like 1.7-8 overnight.

[Rob!]

If this is what the main show is getting I dread to think what the feed on 5* has been getting throughout the week and I doubt we'll be getting it for the whole series tbh

[Will.]

Think like BB6 is saying TV viewership is down.

CBB has lost about 700k of viewers.

The X Factor has lost 3 million.

[RichardG]

CBB10/12 both did really well and averaged like 2.2/2.3m respectively - which was only 0.5m down on the January series they followed. Bearing in mind back then the civilian version was also getting more than 1.5m

I think it's a combination of all those things TBH. I think TV viewership is decreasing each year - most people don't even watch live TV anymore and it's all about Catchup now. I mean even X Factor and other shows' ratings are down. I also think people have lost interest in the show given the shoddy production we've had in the last two years. And I think the lack of big names might have left people unimpressed. I mean CBB15 did well because of names like Katie Hopkins, Katie Price, and Perez Hilton. Not to mention the launch was one of the most tackiest things I've ever seen and that awful cannon game probably made people tune off and not even bother, who can blame them?

Yeah I thought they'd finally stopped trying to make a 'show' out of the launch night, it was certainly an unwelcome flashback to the grim Dowling era!! Its a shame seeing it get such crazy low viewing figures now because even though everything about the state of BBUK these days tells me I should stop watching, I still love it and watch every year. :laugh: It's the only TV programme I've ever 'followed' and honestly one of the only ones I still watch, my TV almost never gets used during off season haha

[Will.]

Do BB's rating include Channel5HD?

[RichardG]

If this is what the main show is getting I dread to think what the feed on 5* has been getting throughout the week and I doubt we'll be getting it for the whole series tbh

And I'm sure I remember reading before it began that this was supposed to be the longest CBB ever at like five weeks or something. :laugh: They might cut it back again like they did with timebomb.

[Jason.]

Yeah I thought they'd finally stopped trying to make a 'show' out of the launch night, it was certainly an unwelcome flashback to the grim Dowling era!! Its a shame seeing it get such crazy low viewing figures now because even though everything about the state of BBUK these days tells me I should stop watching, I still love it and watch every year. :laugh: It's the only TV programme I've ever 'followed' and honestly one of the only ones I still watch, my TV almost never gets used during off season haha

Ikr. That launch night was a timebomb back to the BB13 launch of June '12. With the dancing, cheerleaders, Marcus narrating (they even had the nerve to actually show him narrating on the screen outside the house at one point :umm2:). It reminded me of the awful dancing showgirls in the BB13 launch and "RUNNNWAAAAYY".

I agree, part of me says why do I even bother watching this trash anymore, when we've only had about one or two decent series since 2008, and even then those series were still far from perfect. I mean CBB (January version ofc) is still going great, mainly in the last two years, TBH. And is still done better than any CBB on C4 with the exception of CBB3 and CBB4. But, I'll stick it with it until it gets axed. Having said that, the show has gotten so bad recently that I'm now on the stage where if I no longer enjoy a series, I'll just tune out. The same way I turned off BB16 after 4in4out. I mean I hated BB8 at the time, but I still sat through every episode of that series as it aired on C4 in 2007. BB15 was my final straw as I wanted to stop watching that after Week 6, but I stuck with it. But I promised if they mess up another series again, I just won't watch the series and they managed to make BB16 even worse so I didn't bother with it, which was a shame as the first two weeks were good. For some reason, I can see January CBB going down the same route in at least a year or two and I wouldn't be surprised if it does.

[Will.]

I call dibs on the CBB17 Ratings Thread, in January. :hee:

Not If I get their first!!!


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[RichardG]

Yeah I gave up on BB15 and also a few of the CBBs cause they were throwing far too many at us but I still come back to the forum and turn the TV on with each new launch night because I'm not right in the head. :fist: I feel like they'd have to be crazy to renew the contract again but you never know.

[MrWong]

Do BB's rating include Channel5HD?

Yes and +1.

[Jason.]

Not If I get their first!!!


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Bitch, go revise for your A-Levels http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar91353_8.gif

:hehe:

[Will.]

Bitch, go revise for your A-Levels http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar91353_8.gif

:hehe:

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I'm doing BTEC you bitch! :laugh::hehe:

Im currently making my 30 second horror film which my teacher asked me to do!

[Jason.]

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01974/makosi_1974402i.jpg

I'm doing BTEC you bitch! :laugh::hehe:

Im currently making my 30 second horror film which my teacher asked me to do!

That picture is scary.

[Will.]

That picture is scary.

Maybe Makosi can be the serial killer in my film?

[Jake.]

it's a real shame because this series is proving to be a corker, but if ratings are down across the box I guess I can't expect CBB to not fall as well..

[Jamesy]

Moving bbuk to may and giving cbb a bigger break was such a mistake

I can see them going back to the old schedule next year. Clearly the early start for BB16 and the big break hasn't helped ratings at all.

I think the themes are to blame to a certain extent too though, and obviously no advertising for the civilian series.

[Jason.]

Yeah, those themes need to **** off now. The only one that has actually worked well was Secrets and Lies, lbr.

Power Trip was an awful idea from the moment it was revealed that BB15 would infact be Power Trip. Timebomb actually had potential, but with a retarded production, managed to make it even worse than Power Trip. And the fact they've introduced them for CBB now as well is a piss take and will no doubt make CBB just as twisted and manipulated as the civilan version has gone down in. Twisted Fairytale was good theme from a visuals perspective such as the eye and graphics and the house theme etc and it didn't really play a big role in the production of the series apart from one or two pointless twists which were harmless enough.

I don't mind having themes for the houses (similar to how BB7 was Inside Out, and BB8 being Everything in the Wrong Place or CBB13 being Russian Opulence that sort of thing) but not for the actual series itself as that pretty much means it's going to be another manipulated mess of a series and pretty much gives the producers permission to throw out awful twists which lets face it hinders the show more than it helps. I'm sick of it being Big Brother: *insert theme here*. It should just be Big Brother like how it was a few years ago and on the C4 days.

[Will.]

I reckon tonight it may get a bit of a increase.

[Rob!]

I reckon tonight it may get a bit of a increase.

It better :worry:

[Jamesy]

I don't mind having themes for the houses (similar to how BB7 was Inside Out, and BB8 being Everything in the Wrong Place or CBB13 being Russian Opulence that sort of thing) but not for the actual series itself as that pretty much means it's going to be another manipulated mess of a series and pretty much gives the producers permission to throw out awful twists which lets face it hinders the show more than it helps. I'm sick of it being Big Brother: *insert theme here*. It should just be Big Brother like how it was a few years ago and on the C4 days.

This is how I want C5 to execute themes. Just have the house/graphics/visuals all with a cohesive theme, but leave it at that. Nearly all C4 series followed that and it worked very well.

Extending it to the series just makes the show appear like some cheap college project. All this theme lingo ("as the battle of the nations continues") has to be the worst of it. It really makes the show appear like something aimed at kids, rather than the teen/adult market. The way they open shows too is just awful, take this years launch for example, what the hell were they thinking? It was just too cringey to watch, I wanted to switch off as a BB fan, I'd dread to think what that mess of an opener would have done to the casual viewer. The editing at the start of each show is ridiculous too, I don't mind a summary of events but OTT dramatic music and a *BOOM* *Camera zooms quickly to HM in diary room* each time, it's not dramatic, it doesn't make me want to watch it and all it leaves me thinking is ahh isn't Windows Movie Maker fab.

The majority of non-fans I've spoken to have switched off this series simply because it's "UK vs USA", because they don't think it's Big Brother, they think it's something else that is resulting in it being a different show/something you don't want to watch.

Secrets and Lies was good because it was new, different and the theme didn't intrude *too* much on the series (apart from Jack & Joe saying "it's Secret and Lies init" every bloody episode). Since then all the themes have been flops apart from the winter Fairytale theme. They just need to either scrap the themes, or do a CBB15/BB14/C4 style themed series, have the theme but don't involve it much or at all with the series, keep it more as a visual aspect of the show.

[Jason.]

This is how I want C5 to execute themes. Just have the house/graphics/visuals all with a cohesive theme, but leave it at that. Nearly all C4 series followed that and it worked very well.

Extending it to the series just makes the show appear like some cheap college project. All this theme lingo ("as the battle of the nations continues") has to be the worst of it. It really makes the show appear like something aimed at kids, rather than the teen/adult market. The way they open shows too is just awful, take this years launch for example, what the hell were they thinking? It was just too cringey to watch, I wanted to switch off as a BB fan, I'd dread to think what that mess of an opener would have done to the casual viewer. The editing at the start of each show is ridiculous too, I don't mind a summary of events but OTT dramatic music and a *BOOM* *Camera zooms quickly to HM in diary room* each time, it's not dramatic, it doesn't make me want to watch it and all it leaves me thinking is ahh isn't Windows Movie Maker fab.

The majority of non-fans I've spoken to have switched off this series simply because it's "UK vs USA", because they don't think it's Big Brother, they think it's something else that is resulting in it being a different show/something you don't want to watch.

Secrets and Lies was good because it was new, different and the theme didn't intrude *too* much on the series (apart from Jack & Joe saying "it's Secret and Lies init" every bloody episode). Since then all the themes have been flops apart from the winter Fairytale theme. They just need to either scrap the themes, or do a CBB15/BB14/C4 style themed series, have the theme but don't involve it much or at all with the series, keep it more as a visual aspect of the show.

:worship:

[Will.]

it's got to do better tonight, theres literally no competition.

[Will.]

I really hope it's done well, that episode was iconic :love:

[Jake.]

if it doesn't pick up tonight then yeah I can't see it picking up at all

[MB.]

I'm guessing 1m

(yeah at this rate it might not even top BB16's ratings)

[Rob!]

I would hope +1 at least will raise things a bit. It was a pretty amazing episode.

[Jason.]

I'll say around 1.2m.

[Blog Rider]

I predict zero ratings for BOTS soon and it will have to move to Five Star.

[crazycolaist]

I'm guessing 1m

(yeah at this rate it might not even top BB16's ratings)


Agreed B, This summer is frikken hot and people are obviously not watching TV as a whole, Even I find BB or CBB a commitment to watch everyday at 9pm especially weekends.

I say 1.3m overnight but gonna be higher on officials than yesterday or previous day.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Agreed B, This summer is frikken hot and people are obviously not watching TV as a whole, Even I find BB or CBB a commitment to watch everyday at 9pm especially weekends.

I say 1.3m overnight but gonna be higher on officials than yesterday or previous day.

What summer? lol Where are you?

[Will.]

Agreed B, This summer is frikken hot and people are obviously not watching TV as a whole, Even I find BB or CBB a commitment to watch everyday at 9pm especially weekends.

I say 1.3m overnight but gonna be higher on officials than yesterday or previous day.


Where are you? Hot???!!!!!!! It's been freezing with rain for about a month!!!!!

[Jason.]

Agreed B, This summer is frikken hot and people are obviously not watching TV as a whole, Even I find BB or CBB a commitment to watch everyday at 9pm especially weekends.

I say 1.3m overnight but gonna be higher on officials than yesterday or previous day.

The last time it was actually considered "hot" here in London was on like 2 July :laugh:

It's been a **** summer, this year. So the weather isn't to blame for the low TV viewership. Not to mention it's September and raining.

[Jack_]

Having caught up with the last few episodes tonight I am enjoying this series but I'm glad to hear it's performing appallingly.

Summer CBB should not be a thing and if this doesn't make C5 realise it I don't know what will. Give us back our damn three weeks for civilian that you so rudely stole off us with your ****ing dreadful CBB obsession and run a five week CBB in January that you can go all out on.

Not only that, but I still cannot get over the disgusting way in which they treated Tila and how it's the most pathetically unjust ejection in BBUK history. This show is a shoddily produced ****ing shambles and if the ratings reflect that then it's poetic justice as far as I'm concerned.

[Rob!]

Huge leap - 1.43m and that's excluded +1! :amazed: Strangly low share of 6.3% though.

I mean it's still pretty bad for CBB but hopefully it can build from that.

[Jake.]

Not bad I guess, hoping the +1 was big

[Pete.]

Still bad imo

[Rob!]

Maybe BB should have them making cakes. Grest British Bake Off got an insane 12m last night.

[Pete.]

Maybe BB should have them making cakes. Grest British Bake Off got an insane 12m last night.
Bake Off airs on a Wednesday?

[Rob!]

Oh I just saw it on DS. :laugh:

Still an insane number though.

[RichardG]

I hope it increases further, this series has been great so far.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

A good jump it should be getting between 1.8 and 2 million for a summer CBB though but much better than it only scraping a million and that disaster of a Saturday figure.

I think viewers will be back after last nights episode it was soooooo good :) Tv was down everywhere over the weekend especially with X Factor don't know what the hell happened as CBB started off pretty standard ratings wise....Bank holiday weekend? Last weekend before school starts? Who knows.

Im not one to make excuses for ratings but when it drops below 1 million then somethings up especially when the highlights have been so good. The removal of Tila and the crappy twists didn't hep BUT the twists DID prove the intended drama so the tasks were only a small part of the actual show.

[MrWong]

Huge leap - 1.43m and that's excluded +1! :amazed: Strangly low share of 6.3% though.

I mean it's still pretty bad for CBB but hopefully it can build from that.

+1 only added another 155k (1%)

[*mazedsalv**]

With +1, last night received 1.59m.

Much better, but still around 200k than last summer was getting in overnights in general, but at least it's not as embarrassing as before. Hope this week can hold onto those 1.6m like figures. I don't know if it will go any higher, but we'll see. We need to do some promoting amongst ourselves I guess :p