Smoking with kids in cars banned

[Kizzy]

'From 1 October 2015 it will be illegal to smoke in a car (or other vehicles) with anyone under 18 present. The law is changing to protect children and young people from the dangers of secondhand smoke.

Both the driver and the smoker could be fined £50. The law applies to every driver in England and Wales, including those aged 17 and those with a provisional driving licence. The law does not apply if the driver is 17 years old and is on their own in the car.'

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/smoking-in-vehicles

[Tom4784]

Good move.

[waterhog]

fantastic move.

i would write a poem but no smoke in me today.

[Kazanne]

I would have thought people would have the sense not to smoke in a car with young children,without it being law,but I guess some humans need it hammering home.It's a good thing.

[Kizzy]

I would have thought people would have the sense not to smoke in a car with young children,without it being law,but I guess some humans need it hammering home.It's a good thing.

:clap1:

[Livia]

I would have thought people would have the sense not to smoke in a car with young children,without it being law,but I guess some humans need it hammering home.It's a good thing.

I actually saw a woman in a car at a petrol station smoking with a couple of kids in the car and the window open a crack. I'm sure the vast majority of people wouldn't dream of doing it, but like you say... there are always a few.

[arista]

Good news

[Cherie]

It might be illegal but how will it be enforced, if the police don't have time to come out to burglaries :umm2:pretty disgusting that a law against it has to be passed that said it's not something I see happening very often

[Kazanne]

I actually saw a woman in a car at a petrol station smoking with a couple of kids in the car and the window open a crack. I'm sure the vast majority of people wouldn't dream of doing it, but like you say... there are always a few.

Some people are really stupid Livia,very thoughtless and selfish,but they don't seem to be the people who suffer any consequences,it always seems to be nice ,caring people.

[Niamh.]

I actually saw a woman in a car at a petrol station smoking with a couple of kids in the car and the window open a crack. I'm sure the vast majority of people wouldn't dream of doing it, but like you say... there are always a few.

:facepalm:

[MTVN]

Liberal yahoos taking away peoples freedom

[Cherie]

The public might be better served if pollution levels in City Centres were kept in check

[Kazanne]

The public might be better served if pollution levels in City Centres were kept in check

That's a good point Cherie,there must be as much danger of car and truck exhust fumes,plus factory waste,this should be tackled aswell.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Smoking is bad but to do so with a kid in a car :nono:


at least let the kid out so he or she can finish their fag outiside

[Kazanne]

Smoking is bad but to do so with a kid in a car :nono:


at least let the kid out so he or she can finish their fag outiside

:laugh: your sharp,as usual,LT

[kirklancaster]

It might be illegal but how will it be enforced, if the police don't have time to come out to burglaries :umm2:pretty disgusting that a law against it has to be passed that said it's not something I see happening very often

:clap1::clap1::clap1: A very very valid point Cherie.

The irony is, that normal, educated, responsible parents do not need this legislation, yet the ignorant, irresponsible parents that do, are the very ones who will contemptuously IGNORE it.

I will return to an earlier post of mine; 'Sleeping Policemen'/'Speed Bumps' - the very idiots who necessitate the installation of such 'speed deterrents' are the boy racer/selfish idiots/ who merely drive over the bumps at 100mph. The rest of us who sensibly comply with speed limits anyway have to foot the bill for these bumps and pay through the extra wear and tear on our vehicles suspensions - even though we drive over them within the speed limit.

[kirklancaster]

Smoking is bad but to do so with a kid in a car :nono:


at least let the kid out so he or she can finish their fag outiside

:laugh::laugh::laugh: Howling.

[kirklancaster]

Liberal yahoos taking away peoples freedom

:laugh: Nice wind up from the Birthday Boy. :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

where is chuff?

that avi needs banning

[Josy]

I don't know anyone that's stupid enough to smoke in a car with kids present. Thankfully.

[the truth]

love the loony left, they ban smoking from everywhere but want to legalise cannabis everywhere

[Cherie]

I don't know anyone that's stupid enough to smoke in a car with kids present. Thankfully.

Even if they are caught and fined they are still most likely to light up indoors as they didn't care in the first place not to put their kids health at risk or are too uneducated to know the dangers

[bots]

Even if they are caught and fined they are still most likely to light up indoors as they didn't care in the first place not to put their kids health at risk or are too uneducated to know the dangers

That's the key point there, a small roomed house is no different from a car. We will be needing the smoking police to enter peoples house along with the clean bum checkers.

[the truth]

lets hope they arrest pregnant women smoking and destroying the unborn baby in their womb

[Cherie]

lets hope they arrest pregnant women smoking and destroying the unborn baby in their womb

for sure they should be fined too, where will it all end :laugh: Instead of fining people they should run some shock adverts along the lines of the drink driving adverts to raise awareness though you would have to have your head stuck in the sand not to realise the dangers of exposing kids to passive smoking in this day and age :umm2:

[Kizzy]

There were adverts that showed the dangers of smoking in cars a couple of years ago and one about smoking in the house this year I think. There will always from any background that think 'I can do what I want in my car' so this will counter that.

[Glenn.]

I'm not sure how something like this can be enforced but ok.

How is it any different to a parent smoking at home. It's still just as bad.

[Niamh.]

I'm not sure how something like this can be enforced but ok.

How is it any different to a parent smoking at home. It's still just as bad.

It's a more confined space I suppose but neither are good

[Kizzy]

I'm not sure how something like this can be enforced but ok.

How is it any different to a parent smoking at home. It's still just as bad.

The police can see you smoking and see the kids in the back pull you over and fine you £50.
It would be a lot harder to police in your home.

[Glenn.]

I'm fully aware of how a window works kizzy. The point I was getting at was that it will be difficult to actually enforce.

[Cherie]

The police can see you smoking and see the kids in the back pull you over and fine you £50.
It would be a lot harder to police in your home.

They could be smoking an e cig...not sure this is an appropriate use of police time ..seems to me it's just another fine to add to the many others to top up the coffers!

[kirklancaster]

I'm fully aware of how a window works kizzy. The point I was getting at was that it will be difficult to actually enforce.

:laugh:

[Glenn.]

They could be smoking an e cig...not sure this is an appropriate use of police time ..seems to me it's just another fine to add to the many others to top up the coffers!

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[kirklancaster]

They could be smoking an e cig...not sure this is an appropriate use of police time ..seems to me it's just another fine to add to the many others to top up the coffers!

I totally agree Cherie - Just another example of Nanny State wastage of time, resources, and money.

[Kizzy]

I'm fully aware of how a window works kizzy. The point I was getting at was that it will be difficult to actually enforce.

That's good to know, obviously it will be only enforced if you are seen smoking a cigarette by an officer.. the same way you can be fined for using a mobile phone.
If it can be identified from a cig, but cigs look like cigs... ecigs look like sonic screwdrivers.

[Niamh.]

That's good to know, obviously it will be only enforced if you are seen smoking a cigarette by an officer.. the same way you can be fined for using a mobile phone.
If it can be identified from a cig, but cigs look like cigs... ecigs look like sonic screwdrivers.

depends on the ecig, some of them look like cigarettes

[Glenn.]

That's good to know, obviously it will be only enforced if you are seen smoking a cigarette by an officer.. the same way you can be fined for using a mobile phone.
If it can be identified from a cig, but cigs look like cigs... ecigs look like sonic screwdrivers.

That's hardly reassuring. People still continue to use their mobiles whilst driving.

[Alf]

Just another case of more liberal oppression

Liberals favourite ever lyric comes from a Wham song

"I don't want your freedom"

[Kizzy]

That's hardly reassuring. People still continue to use their mobiles whilst driving.

Yes they do people do lots of things they shouldn't whilst driving, this is just another one.

[Glenn.]

Which physically isn't regulated to the degree it needs to be which makes it pointless.

[Kizzy]

What's the alternative, smoke detectors linked to the police station in cars?.. Don't shoot the messenger, even if this only acts as a deterrent it's worth it.

[Glenn.]

But it won't so

[Kizzy]

But it won't so

Hmmm, well we're clearly not getting anywhere with this conversation.