The Walking Dead - Season 7

[Niamh.]

For his own survival (and of the very few people he cared about) sure. For the survival of a group who depend on him? No chance would he be any good for that. :laugh:

I think he would put those he cared most about first(who wouldn't) but I also think he'd know that keeping a group around him was the best option for survival

[Nicky91]

i would also think about survival of myself and a few others i care about, but the ones who are weak, well they only drag you down, that's one thing i have learned from that walking dead telltale game :)

[user104658]

Nicky is Negan :worry:

[Nicky91]

Nicky is Negan :worry:

no, i'm not :laugh:

[Niamh.]

Nicky is Negan :worry:

I've noticed how Nicky can go from butter wouldn't melt to loving Donald trump :think:

[Nicky91]

I've noticed how Nicky can go from butter wouldn't melt to loving Donald trump :think:

okay :hee:

[Niamh.]

okay :hee:

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[Northern Monkey]

I think Shane did care about the group.Did'nt he stop Carols husband from beating her once?But he liked to get sh@t done and was a hot head.I think a leader needs to be able to look at a situation and take a measured response but also have the courage to get sh@t done too.I think Shane would have lead the group to their death by now.

[Nicky91]

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i just love his sense of humour, and when he's taunting Rick, omg Rick is such a weak leader :hehe:

[Niamh.]

i just love his sense of humour, and when he's taunting Rick, omg Rick is such a weak leader :hehe:

I agree :douf:

[Niamh.]

I think Shane did care about the group.Did'nt he stop Carols husband from beating her once?But he liked to get sh@t done and was a hot head.I think a leader needs to be able to look at a situation and take a measured response but also have the courage to get sh@t done too.I think Shane would have lead the group to their death by now.

Or maybe he would have evolved like Rick has

[Nicky91]

yeah and Carl for me is just useless to the show, if Negan did kill him well no one would miss him :laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

i just love his sense of humour, and when he's taunting Rick, omg Rick is such a weak leader :hehe:

Negan is brutal and a sociopath imo.The fact that he can have that sense of humour(which yes is funny)while being a sadistic killer makes him the worst enemy they've faced.Atm he seems to not have a humane side.He is inhuman.

[Northern Monkey]

Or maybe he would have evolved like Rick has

It's possible if he had'nt got killed while he was still letting his emotions rule his head.

[Nicky91]

Negan is brutal and a sociopath imo.The fact that he can have that sense of humour(which yes is funny)while being a sadistic killer makes him the worst enemy they've faced.Atm he seems to not have a humane side.He is inhuman.

maybe we'll get some background information about him as well, just for some character development :)

[Northern Monkey]

maybe we'll get some background information about him as well, just for some character development :)

Yeah we probs will.We did with the governor.

[Nicky91]

yeah and when will we see Gregory again :)

[Niamh.]

Negan is brutal and a sociopath imo.The fact that he can have that sense of humour(which yes is funny)while being a sadistic killer makes him the worst enemy they've faced.Atm he seems to not have a humane side.He is inhuman.

He's a really interesting character, first villain I've really been fascinated with in fact

[Cherie]

Or maybe he would have evolved like Rick has

You gotta let Shane go Niamh :worry:

[Lostie!]

I think he would put those he cared most about first(who wouldn't) but I also think he'd know that keeping a group around him was the best option for survival

There's a difference between putting those you care for the most first and actually being a leader of a group where it's highly unlikely you care whatsoever about the majority of them beyond them being numbers to increase your chances of survival. And I have no doubt he'd do what he did to Otis to any of them bar Lori and Carl if he felt the need to. This is a guy who wanted to murder his best friend because he wanted his wife.

As I said, Shane before Rick returned was probably a fine leader. Afterwards, however, is a very different story.

I think Shane did care about the group.Did'nt he stop Carols husband from beating her once?But he liked to get sh@t done and was a hot head.I think a leader needs to be able to look at a situation and take a measured response but also have the courage to get sh@t done too.I think Shane would have lead the group to their death by now.

Yeah but that was before he went really off the deep end (I do think he cared for the others more at the start) and more than anything I think it was him using it as an outlet for his rage over Lori and Rick. Bby the point he died, I'd say literally only Lori and Carl were people who he'd give a damn about going forward (and Judith if he lived longer).

And I totally agree with the last part. It's not like Shane was just a guy who was willing to make tough decisions to survive (as he likely was before he went nuts), he was an unstable psychopath by the end. He did have great leadership qualities earlier on but he'd totally shed them by the time he died.

But all of that said, he's one of my favourite characters because you can tell he was a well-intentioned guy before he started to unravel and I find his fall from grace fascinating.

[Natalie.]

They should have had Shane go away somehow and come back at a later season.

[Niamh.]

You gotta let Shane go Niamh :worry:

Never :fist:

[Niamh.]

They should have had Shane go away somehow and come back at a later season.

I know right? :bawling: Lostie is dead to me

[Niamh.]

There's a difference between putting those you care for the most first and actually being a leader of a group where it's highly unlikely you care whatsoever about the majority of them beyond them being numbers to increase your chances of survival. And I have no doubt he'd do what he did to Otis to any of them bar Lori and Carl if he felt the need to. This is a guy who wanted to murder his best friend because he wanted his wife.

As I said, Shane before Rick returned was probably a fine leader. Afterwards, however, is a very different story.



Yeah but that was before he went really off the deep end (I do think he cared for the others more at the start) and more than anything I think it was him using it as an outlet for his rage over Lori and Rick. Bby the point he died, I'd say literally only Lori and Carl were people who he'd give a damn about going forward (and Judith if he lived longer).

And I totally agree with the last part. It's not like Shane was just a guy who was willing to make tough decisions to survive (as he likely was before he went nuts), he was an unstable psychopath by the end. He did have great leadership qualities earlier on but he'd totally shed them by the time he died.

But all of that said, he's one of my favourite characters because you can tell he was a well-intentioned guy before he started to unravel and I find his fall from grace fascinating.

Maybe he was just having a break down like Rick, only his was better :hee:

[Lostie!]

I know right? :bawling: Lostie is dead to me

Oh at you overlooking the part where I said he's one of my favourite characters (and I actually agree with Natalie) :idc:

[Niamh.]

Oh at you overlooking the part where I said he's one of my favourite characters (and I actually agree with Natalie) :idc:

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[user104658]

If Shane was still in TWD then he wouldn't have been cast as The Punisher, and that would have been a travesty.

[Ammi]

..poor Shane..:sad:..he was a good guy I think...can you imagine being in love with your best friend's wife and how heart-breaking and the only way he could be with her was to be invaded by zombies and for his best friend to be dead.../what a dilemma poor thing and a conflict of feeling the loss of his friend plus feeling such happiness at being with Lori...and then hello, there's Rick again and the emotions all turning upside down, he no longer has Lori but he has Rick back...I can't believe what the writers had that guy go through...(well the comics I guess....)...


..I guess it's logical that if Rick has become more Shane through the adjustment and has had to, that Shane could have become more Rick and equally have made a great/balanced leader with what was needed...


...just too soon..:sad:..

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[Niamh.]

..poor Shane..:sad:..he was a good guy I think...can you imagine being in love with your best friend's wife and how heart-breaking and the only way he could be with her was to be invaded by zombies and for his best friend to be dead.../what a dilemma poor thing and a conflict of feeling the loss of his friend plus feeling such happiness at being with Lori...and then hello, there's Rick again and the emotions all turning upside down, he no longer has Lori but he has Rick back...I can't believe what the writers had that guy go through...(well the comics I guess....)...


..I guess it's logical that if Rick has become more Shane through the adjustment and has had to, that Shane could have become more Rick and equally have made a great/balanced leader with what was needed...


...just too soon..:sad:..

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[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Theory Daryl was sending signals to Rick

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[user104658]

Theory Daryl was sending signals to Rick

ViIpH2UTREw

Watching it on the actual episode as suggested - I think this is definitely the case. For anyone who has the... erm... less official download of the episode - watch from minutes 6 to 7. Daryl is definitely blinking morse code. He's actually nodding his head like he's thinking / counting with the blinks. He's doing it again when Negan says "You don't look at him, you don't talk to him". I doubt it's just the way he's acting as "traumatised" - he isn't doing it / barely blinks at all when Rick isn't looking at him.

Not as convinced by the "bat tapping", but there's definitely something going on with the blinks.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Watching it on the actual episode as suggested - I think this is definitely the case. For anyone who has the... erm... less official download of the episode - watch from minutes 6 to 7. Daryl is definitely blinking morse code. He's actually nodding his head like he's thinking / counting with the blinks. He's doing it again when Negan says "You don't look at him, you don't talk to him". I doubt it's just the way he's acting as "traumatised" - he isn't doing it / barely blinks at all when Rick isn't looking at him.

Not as convinced by the "bat tapping", but there's definitely something going on with the blinks.

I agree. Looking forward to them exploring this it's beginning to become interesting again after the slow 702 episode. But I read Negan is unlikely to die this season so this might not lead to much :(

[Lostie!]

Watched the latest episode earlier. If I'm honest I don't find Negan as menacing as previous villains (probably due to his more zany sort of personality) but he has some brilliant lines. "Well pardon me, young man and excuse the **** out of my goddamn French" :joker:

[RodHull]

Can anyone confirm or deny what the hell that was all about with Enid in the latest episode??

Reports said she may have a rape plot coming her way, there was much uproar show producers denied it, just watched the latest episode and while indeed no rape happened on or off screen there was a whole chunk of dialogue with her and carl where it strongly hinted that she was indeed raped in the previous episode without our seeing it actually happen.

Does anyone have any insight im confused like it was cut from the show or something? Something happened to her 'in the armoury' and carl witnessed it... ???

[Ammi]

..The Walking game app I play is quite cheeky because it made sense last night...(a mission on the game when you have to switch the boom-box off in the car..)...the mission has been on the game for a few days or so before the airing of this episode anywhere...anyways it made sense/a bit of pointless information...anyways a good episode...

[user104658]

Can anyone confirm or deny what the hell that was all about with Enid in the latest episode??

Reports said she may have a rape plot coming her way, there was much uproar show producers denied it, just watched the latest episode and while indeed no rape happened on or off screen there was a whole chunk of dialogue with her and carl where it strongly hinted that she was indeed raped in the previous episode without our seeing it actually happen.

Does anyone have any insight im confused like it was cut from the show or something? Something happened to her 'in the armoury' and carl witnessed it... ???

No... the thing that happened to her "in the armory" was just that Carl locked her in there (she had wanted to go with Maggie to Hilltop, when the "Negan Incident" happened). Carl is talking about witnessing what happened to Glenn and Abe / that he "didn't look away" etc.

[Nicky91]

Enid is really becoming my favourite character, i like the friendship between her and Maggie :)

[Niamh.]

That episode was a bit meh tbh. As if Carl is going to manage to kill Negan, he'll probably just get himself kidnapped and make more of a mess for the group

[Nicky91]

That episode was a bit meh tbh. As if Carl is going to manage to kill Negan, he'll probably just get himself kidnapped and make more of a mess for the group

never going to happen, Carl isn't someone stronger than Negan :laugh:


Gregory almost betraying Maggie and Sasha :hehe:

[RodHull]

No... the thing that happened to her "in the armory" was just that Carl locked her in there (she had wanted to go with Maggie to Hilltop, when the "Negan Incident" happened). Carl is talking about witnessing what happened to Glenn and Abe / that he "didn't look away" etc.

Ah ok I get it I guess it was the overacting they both made out like some horrific thing had occurred to her, i bloody hate 'coral' shave your head goddam it boy ! And shes annoying as well, always running off creating dramas like being in a zombie apocolypse isnt drama enough...

Sadly if it follows the comics which so far sans daryl it is, he wont die though enid im unsure about as shes not in the comics i dont think

[Amy Jade]

People are saying Enid is going to basically take Sophia's storyline from the comics, her getting closer to Maggie would suggest it could be true.

[Niamh.]

People are saying Enid is going to basically take Sophia's storyline from the comics, her getting closer to Maggie would suggest it could be true.

They haven't built much of a back story with their relationship though, it was a bit odd that suddenly out of practically no where they were best buddies, same with Sasha and how close we're supposed to believe her and Jesus are all of a sudden

[Cherie]

They haven't built much of a back story with their relationship though, it was a bit odd that suddenly out practically no where they were best buddies, same with Sasha and how close we're supposed to believe how close her and Jesus are all of a sudden

Yep Enid is the most boring character ever, her expressionless face leaves me cold, here for her becoming a zombie, she might have more life :hee:

[Niamh.]

Yep Enid is the most boring character ever, her expressionless face leaves me cold, here for her becoming a zombie, she might have more life :hee:

Oh and ffs, she's frozen in terror because a lone walker is ambling towards her, wasn't she supposed to have survived on her own after her parents died and before she got to Alexandria? Her and Carls scenes were such a snoozefest

[user104658]

Oh and ffs, she's frozen in terror because a lone walker is ambling towards her, wasn't she supposed to have survived on her own after her parents died and before she got to Alexandria? Her and Carls scenes were such a snoozefest

Yeah... plus she left again last season, was shown to be quite clever at surviving on her own (the whole JSS thing?), and actually saved Glenn...

...but now she's acting like she's never seen a walker before, and needs Carl to swoop in and save her.

[Niamh.]

Yeah... plus she left again last season, was shown to be quite clever at surviving on her own (the whole JSS thing?), and actually saved Glenn...

...but now she's acting like she's never seen a walker before, and needs Carl to swoop in and save her.

It seems like, in that last episode anyway, they decided to rewrite old characters with different personalities and these close relationships that just sprung from no where

[Lostie!]

Finally watched last week's. Jesus dropkicking zombies :joker: :clap1:

As detestable as Gregory is, I can't help but find him funny :worry:

[Ninastar]

I thought it was a good episode tonight. I have a bad feeling about this group of women. Idk if thats just cause i heard some spoilers about the comics though

I forgot how funny Tara was though. Was nice to see

[user104658]

Finally watched last week's. Jesus dropkicking zombies :joker: :clap1:

As detestable as Gregory is, I can't help but find him funny :worry:

Gregory's entire interaction with Trevor was brilliant (I neither know nor care what his name is - he is quite blatantly Trevor from GTA5, both the actor and the character :joker: )

[Jordan.]

Slain at Tara getting an episode and the angry feminist group.

[Niamh.]

It was a much better episode to last weeks anyway that's for sure, Tara is an interesting character, I hope they use her more

[Nicky91]

Tara is a very nice character and it was a good episode, some different characters this time


i kinda like Cyndie if that's her name, she did shoot very well at the walkers on the bridge :)

[Headie]

Omg I knew I recognised Cyndie from somewhere, she was the little girl on That's So Raven

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/thatssoraven/images/6/67/Sydney.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150313002938

[Babayaro.]

Why was the walker who looked like Heath not covered in sand? Like how would it have gotten up there considering there were two big containers or whatever Tara and Heath climbed over blocking the way in and out

[Niamh.]

Why was the walker who looked like Heath not covered in sand? Like how would it have gotten up there considering there were two big containers or whatever Tara and Heath climbed over blocking the way in and out

I know right, make no sense what so ever. The one Walker who could have been mistaken for Heath is literally the only one who isn't covered in sand

[user104658]

I was actually highly amused that she thought it was him because it had the same hair... But then it turned out to be wearing a granny dress. Heh.

[Niamh.]

also it was the only walker who had hair

[Nicky91]

Omg I knew I recognised Cyndie from somewhere, she was the little girl on That's So Raven

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/thatssoraven/images/6/67/Sydney.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150313002938

aw, now i recognize her from that as well wow :hee:

[Amy Jade]

That's honestly the first episode I've enjoyed since the opening. I really like Tara and I think her sense of humour is great, it's so refreshing after the last few episodes of doom and gloom.

I also hope we see more of the beach community, especially Cyndi.

[Amy Jade]

Anyone else not care if Heath is dead or not?

[Niamh.]

Anyone else not care if Heath is dead or not?

aww :laugh: I do, i think he could be a good character if they develop him a little more. I don't think he's dead anyway since we never saw it happening or a body after

[Babayaro.]

The oceanside community are crap lmao

[Firewire]

i really liked the episode

Tara is so underrated

[Headie]

That's honestly the first episode I've enjoyed since the opening. I really like Tara and I think her sense of humour is great, it's so refreshing after the last few episodes of doom and gloom.

I also hope we see more of the beach community, especially Cyndi.

Same here <3

On an unrelated note, Blasian actresses/models are so stunning :flutter:

[Amy Jade]

aww :laugh: I do, i think he could be a good character if they develop him a little more. I don't think he's dead anyway since we never saw it happening or a body after

That was him zombified, he's into cross dressing in the comics :fan:

[Drew.]

There are so many ****ing communities it's getting a bit annoying and unrealistic.

Saying that the episode was alright, Tara is great so it's good to see her again. I wish we'd have had more focus on Rick & the group and Negans lot this series though.. unless all these different communities are building towards one big war or something then i don't see the point of there being so many. I miss them all being together and the focus being on them all, it's hard to keep focused on their development when we see certain characters once every 4 or 5 episodes.

[user104658]

There are so many ****ing communities it's getting a bit annoying and unrealistic.

Saying that the episode was alright, Tara is great so it's good to see her again. I wish we'd have had more focus on Rick & the group and Negans lot this series though.. unless all these different communities are building towards one big war or something then i don't see the point of there being so many. I miss them all being together and the focus being on them all, it's hard to keep focused on their development when we see certain characters once every 4 or 5 episodes.

Comic spoiler:

I'm pretty sure in the comics, they basically do rally all of the communities (Alexandria, Hilltop, Kingdom etc.) and that's how they manage to get the numbers to take on Negan...

[Amy Jade]

Comic spoiler:

I'm pretty sure in the comics, they basically do rally all of the communities (Alexandria, Hilltop, Kingdom etc.) and that's how they manage to get the numbers to take on Negan...

Yea thats's exactly it, I'm just reading 'all out war' now actually

[Brother Leon]

All Out War isn't until Next Season at this pace anyway.

[Cherie]

I like how they are building the story, will be interesting to see how they pull all the communities together to take on the saviours, at least I expect that is what will happen ...not reading spoilers :oh:

[Niamh.]

I like how they are building the story, will be interesting to see how they pull all the communities together to take on the saviours, at least I expect that is what will happen ...not reading spoilers :oh:

Me neither :fist:

[user104658]

Comic spoilers are really only potential spoilers, since it doesn't EXACTLY follow the comics (although does seem to be loosely, and possibly more and more as the seasons go on).

I know Angela was alive for LOADS longer in the comics for example. She might even still be alive? I don't know. She definitely didn't die way back in the Governor / Prison era.

[Niamh.]

Tara getting hate for having put on weight.....after she's had a baby :nono:

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/the-walking-dead/news/a815615/walking-dead-tara-alanna-masterson-hits-back-body-shaming-trolls-weight/?utm_content=buffer1d474&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=mainfacebookpost

[Lostie!]

I just watched the last episode. Wasn't expecting much after seeing the reaction to it but I liked it, don't really think the negative response is entirely justified.

I assume they chose to be so ambiguous about Heath's fate to leave the door open for if the actor becomes available again, but since he didn't return to Alexandria something must have happened to him (not necessarily death but I don't imagine he's all fine and dandy).

Interesting that they decided to introduce Oceanside so much earlier than in the comics. Assuming they reappear after the war with the Saviors, I hope we see Cyndie again.

(slight comic info in the tag)

[Cherie]

Rick's going to be jolted out of his stupor when he returns from scavenging :hee:

[Niamh.]

Carl is such a dingbat, I wish Negan had killed him

[Niamh.]

oh and he doesn't flinch when he's shooting the two henchmen but there's negan himself standing infront of him but he doesn't pull the trigger?

[Nicky91]

Carl becoming Negan's pet, he even had to sing for him, i love that song You are my Sunshine actually, anyway i find Negan so funny the way he acts, and his group the saviors it isn't all that bad, if you just obey by his rules, you've got a pretty good life in a world like that :)


but it was nice seeing some more of the saviors :D

[Niamh.]

Carl becoming Negan's pet, he even had to sing for him, i love that song You are my Sunshine actually, anyway i find Negan so funny the way he acts, and his group the saviors it isn't all that bad, if you just obey by his rules, you've got a pretty good life in a world like that :)


but it was nice seeing some more of the saviors :D

umm??? Yeah I would love to live under a meglomaniac dictator, be like North Korea :laugh:

[Cherie]

Carl becoming Negan's pet, he even had to sing for him, i love that song You are my Sunshine actually, anyway i find Negan so funny the way he acts, and his group the saviors it isn't all that bad, if you just obey by his rules, you've got a pretty good life in a world like that :)


but it was nice seeing some more of the saviors :D

They were all on their knees and he has all their good looking women, there is potential for a revolt!

[Cherie]

umm??? Yeah I would love to live under a meglomaniac dictator, be like North Korea :laugh:

Snap :laugh:

[Cherie]

Judith is the key to waking Rick up

[Drew.]

Carl is seriously annoying me this season. Such a dumb liability to the group

[Niamh.]

the whole Negan story is a bit stupid though tbf, everyone seems to hate him but none of them decide to take him out or organise the group to take him out?

[Jessica.]

I find negan and his group really boring tbh :worry:

[Niamh.]

I find negan and his group really boring tbh :worry:

I found him interesting at the very start but it's just annoying now and stupid that all them idiots do what he says

[Lostie!]

Yeah I don't really find Negan to be a particularly compelling villain. I think he has entertainment value but in a more comical way than sinister. I think the build up with the Saviors in the second half of Season 6 was brilliant but they haven't really lived up to that. We've had some really creepy villains but these are just more dickish than anything.

Terminus is still my favourite group of villains, they were legitimately unsettling.

[Niamh.]

Yeah I don't really find Negan to be a particularly compelling villain. I think he has entertainment value but in a more comical way than sinister. I think the build up with the Saviors in the second half of Season 6 was brilliant but they haven't really lived up to that. We've had some really creepy villains but these are just more dickish than anything.

Terminus is still my favourite group of villains, they were legitimately unsettling.

yeah same and they didn't drag that out like they dragged The Governor and Negan out. I hated The Governor but atleast you could see why his followers followed him and did what he said, there's no logic to why Negans followers follow him and do what he says

[Amy Jade]

I feel Negan has been a huge let down, he's awesome in the comics but it's not translated well at all in the show and I just find him annoying rather than sinister.

In the world that he lives in somebody would have killed him by now.

Comic Spoiler: I am excited to see what happens when The Whisperers arrive and Alpha, a real big bad arrives. Although I hope they stray from the comics more than they did with Abe and Glenn and don't kill Rosita :(

[Niamh.]

I feel Negan has been a huge let down, he's awesome in the comics but it's not translated well at all in the show and I just find him annoying rather than sinister.

In the world that he lives in somebody would have killed him by now.

Comic Spoiler: I am excited to see what happens when The Whisperers arrive and Alpha, a real big bad arrives. Although I hope they stray from the comics more than they did with Abe and Glenn and don't kill Rosita :(

I won't read the spoiler but yeah exactly, he's burning peoples faces, getting everyone to kneel before him, humiliating people and stealing their wives etc.why on Earth would they all just take that, he's one guy?

[Smithy]

Ive almost caught up I'm on S7E3 (and honestly i don't get how anyone can ever compare this to GoT) but since S3 its just been full of filler episodes, the worst style of the show is when each episode focuses on a different character as apposed to the group, or more than one set of characters, and apparently thats how S7 is too?

Plus some of the decisions they make are so ****ing dumb :bored: Coral needs to die already

[Lostie!]

I feel Negan has been a huge let down, he's awesome in the comics but it's not translated well at all in the show and I just find him annoying rather than sinister.

In the world that he lives in somebody would have killed him by now.

Comic Spoiler: I am excited to see what happens when The Whisperers arrive and Alpha, a real big bad arrives. Although I hope they stray from the comics more than they did with Abe and Glenn and don't kill Rosita :(

That's who I'm excited for too. Still haven't read the comics but from everything I've heard the Whisperers sound awesome.

[Brother Leon]

Alpha was cool and all, but she was killed way too easily by Negan.

[Amy Jade]

That's who I'm excited for too. Still haven't read the comics but from everything I've heard the Whisperers sound awesome.

Alpha is scary and evil and the Whisperers in general are creepy, it's bad enough there are zombies everywhere but to imagine some 'zombies' are people dressed in corpses just watching you is insanely chilling to me.

I think the fact it's heavily hinted Alpha lets her daughter be sexually abused makes her a character you flat out hate which imo will fit in well after having Negan bumbling around.

[Amy Jade]

Alspha was cool and all, but she was killed way too easily by Negan.
Yeah, I think that was a mistake to have him kill her in general - Ideally she'll kill Negan :fc:

[user104658]

I won't read the spoiler but yeah exactly, he's burning peoples faces, getting everyone to kneel before him, humiliating people and stealing their wives etc.why on Earth would they all just take that, he's one guy?
I was thinking that with the latest episode... He pushes just too hard for it to be realistic. With so many "followers" being oppressed, and the fact that he really seems to have VERY few who respect or admire him rather than just fearing him... By now, at least one person would simply have given up hope and shot him in the head in a "suicide attack" just accepting that they would probably die too, but it being worth it to kill him first.

And with the fact that they fear rather than like Negan... There's a good chance that everyone would just cheer and throw the killer a party :hee:

[Niamh.]

I was thinking that with the latest episode... He pushes just too hard for it to be realistic. With so many "followers" being oppressed, and the fact that he really seems to have VERY few who respect or admire him rather than just fearing him... By now, at least one person would simply have given up hope and shot him in the head in a "suicide attack" just accepting that they would probably die too, but it being worth it to kill him first.

And with the fact that they fear rather than like Negan... There's a good chance that everyone would just cheer and throw the killer a party :hee:

Exactly, as much as I disliked The Governor as a character he was much more believable, his followers liked him and believed in him, that he had their best interests at heart so you could see why they followed him

[Lostie!]

"What you're saying now doesn't make you a sinner, but it does make you a tremendous ****". :laugh2: I love Gabriel.

the whole Negan story is a bit stupid though tbf, everyone seems to hate him but none of them decide to take him out or organise the group to take him out?

I have to agree, I've got the impression that those who genuinely like him are in the minority. :shrug:

[user104658]

I have to agree, I've got the impression that those who genuinely like him are in the minority. :shrug:

Really only his "soldiers" out on the road who are also sociopaths and sort of idolise him and want to impress him. And not even all of those. E.g. the leader of the group that was getting the pigs from the Kingdom, who seemed to be quite moderate, for lack of a better word. The rest just fear him and would probably be happy to see him gone so... An uprising would be far too easy to start :shrug:.

It would be more realistic if he was providing a lot more. Safety he provides... From walkers anyway... But also good food, comfortable living, entertainment etc. ... Then it would make sense that even though many would be morally against the things he does - they wouldn't want to lose their "comfortable" life.

[Lostie!]

It doesn't feel like time for the midseason finale already. I've found most of the episodes to be fine as individual episodes of TV but together as an arc it doesn't really feel like much of anything has happened at all this season bar the premiere deaths. Mainly just a lot of hammering home of the same points over and over. And it doesn't help that Negan is the least interesting villain the show's had in my opinion.

Also the fact that we've only had one episode with Carol, Morgan and the Kingdom and Maggie and Sasha have been completely pushed aside even though their grief should be something we should absolutely be getting focus on. It's just been a pretty unremarkable first half, I think.

Really only his "soldiers" out on the road who are also sociopaths and sort of idolise him and want to impress him. And not even all of those. E.g. the leader of the group that was getting the pigs from the Kingdom, who seemed to be quite moderate, for lack of a better word. The rest just fear him and would probably be happy to see him gone so... An uprising would be far too easy to start :shrug:.

It would be more realistic if he was providing a lot more. Safety he provides... From walkers anyway... But also good food, comfortable living, entertainment etc. ... Then it would make sense that even though many would be morally against the things he does - they wouldn't want to lose their "comfortable" life.

Exactly what I was thinking tbh.

[Babayaro.]

Really good episode :clap1:

Was expecting Spencer's death, so wasn't that bothered, but Olivia's seemed a bit pointless lol. I was really shocked at Daryl bashing that guy's head in, but I suppose it kind of makes sense after everything he's been through. His and Rick's reunion choked me up tbh :sad:

Looking forward to February now as things have been set up nicely after that.

[Lostie!]

I liked it, nice to get a sign that things are gonna progress in the second half in regards to the communities fighting back after the stagnation of this first half.

Spencer's death was brutal! Shame about Olivia, I know she was a minor character but I liked her :laugh:

[Cherie]

Finally :clap1:


The feet at the boat house :amazed:

[Amy Jade]

I agree with the general feel here it's been a little unremarkable so far, I think the only episode I thought was great was Oceanside with Tara - most just felt like filler.

I loved last episode though, Rosita standing up to Negan was awesome although maybe a bit silly but it's nice to have a human reaction like that after being deprived of Sasha and Maggie mourning. I also liked seeing more of Aaron, I think he's really likeable.

I'll actually miss Olivia, I liked her and I wish we had gotten to know her better. Negan's constant weight based comments about her just made him even more irritating than ever, even in death he made fun of her. I hope he dies soon, don't want him to get a hero arc.

[Amy Jade]

Just watching The Talking Dead and omg at Ann's interview about Olivia :(

[Nicky91]

good episode, i will really not miss Spencer, but Olivia a bit pointless death in that episode, and Rosita did not aim very good at Negan, for a moment i thought Negan would kill Rosita, but i really like Negan as a villain, many funny one liners from him which i like a lot from a villain :flutter:

[Firewire]

Potential spoilers about a potential upcoming death

Sasha probably won't make it out this season alive as Sonequa has been cast as the lead in Star Trek: Discovery

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/walking-dead-star-lands-star-trek-discovery-lead-1201942648/

[Jessica.]

Potential spoilers about a potential upcoming death

Sasha probably won't make it out this season alive as Sonequa has been cast as the lead in Star Trek: Discovery

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/walking-dead-star-lands-star-trek-discovery-lead-1201942648/

Aw I don't want her to die. D: I think she will be brilliant in Star trek though!

[Natalie.]

Potential spoilers about a potential upcoming death

Sasha probably won't make it out this season alive as Sonequa has been cast as the lead in Star Trek: Discovery

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/walking-dead-star-lands-star-trek-discovery-lead-1201942648/

omg no :(

[user104658]

"KILL someone"
*points gun at Carl*
"No no that's an invincible character..."
*points gun at Father Gabriel*
"No... Sorry my fault, I wasn't clear, this is only the MIDseason finale. You can only kill a tertiary character with minimal emotional impact"
*points back towards house*
*bang*
"OK. Bit random but she'll do I guess."

[LukeB]

Season 7 A has been pretty boring. it seems far fetched because Negan treats his followers like crap and gives them nothing but abuse but they stick with him? I was pretty looking forward to Negan but he has been a flop. I don't have hopes for B.

[LukeB]

Most of the episodes have been filler as well. I only enjoyed the first episode and Tara's one. That's about it.

[Headie]

Didn't even realise this had started again welp

[Nicky91]

yes it's on tonight :hee:

[Babayaro.]

That was a bit meh

[Josy]

I enjoyed it, we can't have all the episodes filled with massive plots and gory deaths of established, well liked characters tbh, it was a good starting episode and set things up nicely for the ones to come IMO, and also the scene were michone and Rick clotheslined the **** out of that heard was amazing.

I'm wondering whats going on with Gabriel :think: how would he have known where that boat was, did he deliberately lead Rick and co to that new group, I know someone was in the back of the car but did Gabriel know they were there or not.....

[Nicky91]

i quite liked this episode, and the herd wow a lovely scene :hee:


Shiva and Ezekiel, they are becoming my favourite characters of the show alongside Negan :D


Carl, as useless as ever :fan:

[Cherie]

I enjoyed it as well, great to have the series back :love:

[Niamh.]

I enjoyed it mainly because Negan wasn't in it :hee:

[Natalie.]

I enjoyed it mainly because Negan wasn't in it :hee:

Glad he wasn't in it

[Amy Jade]

Brilliant episode. The car scene was fantastic and reminded me of thd opening scene from Ghost Ship.

I'm a bit scared for Rosita though and the direction they're taking her in.

[Cal.]

Fell out of love with this the past few years but I'm rewatching the first 3 seasons at the moment (since I love them <3 ) and it's really enticing me into watching the rest and play catch up.

[Cal.]

Really wish Andrea wasn't killed off in season 3.

The actress said she was originally offered an 8 year deal</3

[Firewire]

I think she had bought a property and everything in Atlanta but they killed her off anyway

I think if Scott M. Gimple had taken over the show sooner she'd still be around

[Cal.]

I think she had bought a property and everything in Atlanta but they killed her off anyway

I think if Scott M. Gimple had taken over the show sooner she'd still be around

Apparently Glenn Mazzara thought the character had been miscasted from the off.

The actress said Andrea was meant to survive until season 8 at least and was to be the one who saved the residents of Woodbury but they called her and told her the scripts weren't writing very well for that story so they were going to kill Andrea off instead.

Sad because I thought Andrea was great and the actress played her well.

[Lostie!]

I wish Frank Darabont was never fired, it's hard not to think about what path the show would have taken had he stuck around. Andrea's story in season 3, for example, would likely have been completely different.

Laurie Holden is pretty vocal about her disappointment in what they did to Andrea.

[Firewire]

They really did the dirty on Darabont which is a shame. I hope he wins the court case.

[Cal.]

I get that it's a fast paced show and they want it to be like the comics in the sense that there's a high character turnover but I honestly think they killed people off too quickly in the first few seasons. I'm not sure if that's going to be an unpopular opinion or not.

[Babayaro.]

Andrea was trash

[Firewire]

Apparently Glenn Mazzara thought the character had been miscasted from the off.

The actress said Andrea was meant to survive until season 8 at least and was to be the one who saved the residents of Woodbury but they called her and told her the scripts weren't writing very well for that story so they were going to kill Andrea off instead.

Sad because I thought Andrea was great and the actress played her well.

Yeah, Robert Kirkman didn't want her to die since she still is alive in the comics.

I think Gimple had to re-write the finale to give her a better send off which resulted in Mazzara leaving the show

[Cal.]

I wish Frank Darabont was never fired, it's hard not to think about what path the show would have taken had he stuck around. Andrea's story in season 3, for example, would likely have been completely different.

Laurie Holden is pretty vocal about her disappointment in what they did to Andrea.

I would be too. I know they don't have to follow the comics and everything but to be promised such a big character with longevity and then getting killed off in one of the early seasons must be pretty suckish.

[Firewire]

I get that it's a fast paced show and they want it to be like the comics in the sense that there's a high character turnover but I honestly think they killed people off too quickly in the first few seasons. I'm not sure if that's going to be an unpopular opinion or not.

I agree, Shane and Andrea should never have died so soon.

I think Lori's death mattered and makes sense, though.

[Cal.]

Yeah, Robert Kirkman didn't want her to die since she still is alive in the comics.

I think Gimple had to re-write the finale to give her a better send off which resulted in Mazzara leaving the show

Ugh I wish the show was being run by someone who liked the character at that point.

I remember being shocked by her death when it first aired just because the situation seemed so relaxed and it just seemed inevitable she would get out of it until they revealed she'd been bit. </3

[Cal.]

I agree, Shane and Andrea should never have died so soon.

I think Lori's death mattered and makes sense, though.

I completely agree with that.

It's shocking they were originally going to kill Carol off along with Lori too. I think they were getting way too ahead of themselves.

[Firewire]

I completely agree with that.

It's shocking they were originally going to kill Carol off along with Lori too. I think they were getting way too ahead of themselves.

I think Shane left because Jon Bernthal was unhappy that Frank Darabont was fired and the same goes for them killing off Dale

I'm glad Carol is still there, considering she was a textbook season two death her story arc has been amazing

[Lostie!]

They really did the dirty on Darabont which is a shame. I hope he wins the court case.

His firing was the reason Jeffrey DeMunn (Dale) left too wasn't it? Another who died sooner than they were supposed to because of outside influences :(

I get that it's a fast paced show and they want it to be like the comics in the sense that there's a high character turnover but I honestly think they killed people off too quickly in the first few seasons. I'm not sure if that's going to be an unpopular opinion or not.

I'm torn on that. I do think they got a little lax with significant deaths over the sixth season (and things like the fakeout with Glenn didn't help matters) and the sense of nobody other than Rick and Carl being safe that the first few seasons had was always one of my favourite things about the show. Having Negan kill two instead of one brought back some of that vibe and hopefully that uncertainty about characters' safety continues again. That said, Andrea's death was just too last minute and came after a really unsatisfactory story for the character so it didn't have the desired effect and instead just left a bad taste.

Still maintain that Negan should have killed Daryl though and I'll always have a level of irritation with the show while he's around being overexposed and annoying.

[Cal.]

I think Shane left because Jon Bernthal was unhappy that Frank Darabont was fired and the same goes for them killing off Dale

I'm glad Carol is still there, considering she was a textbook season two death her story arc has been amazing

It's weird because I never even considered that the characters are killed off because the actor quits in The Walking Dead, I just assumed they're all told they can get killed off whenever and are all happy to just get written out when the time comes. :laugh:

The thought has never crossed my mind since 2011/2012 that Joe Bernthal or Jeffery DeMunn would have quit. I thought a lot of fans were upset that Shane lived so long anyway because he dies in Atlanta in the comics and that I would have been one of the odd ones out in wishing he'd lived longer than he did in the show.

[Firewire]

I agree about the lack of significant deaths, seasons five and six killed off characters that didn't really matter (so their deaths were kind of unimportant)

At least with Glenn and Abraham it was shocking and it sort of feels like any of them could die any minute.

But I don't really like how Rick, Carl, Daryl, Carol and Michonne are invincible because their scenes of danger aren't really that exciting.

[Firewire]

It's weird because I never even considered that the characters are killed off because the actor quits in The Walking Dead, I just assumed they're all told they can get killed off whenever and are all happy to just get written out when the time comes. :laugh:

The thought has never crossed my mind since 2011/2012 that Joe Bernthal or Jeffery DeMunn would have quit. I thought a lot of fans were upset that Shane lived so long anyway because he dies in Atlanta in the comics and that I would have been one of the odd ones out in wishing he'd lived longer than he did in the show.

I think they ruined Shane in the writing. He had so much potential and I honestly think if he was still alive the dynamic between himself and Rick would be so good.

[Firewire]

I think the angel vs devil leadership is needed, Rick is too level-headed but doesn't take risks.

[Cal.]

Yeah I know people think season 2 is too slow for TWD but I really enjoyed the dynamic Rick and Shane's different leaderships brought and the moral dilemmas that the group faced because of it, such as the barn full of walkers/wanting to respect Hershel's beliefs and what they should do with Randall the prisoner.

[Cal.]

In regards to Carol, I remember being a hardcore Carol fan on some TWD forum back in like 2012/2013 and all the members were so puzzled because from what I've read she's kind of a dumb slag in the comics and they were all so certain she wasn't going to survive the prison in the TV show. :laugh:

Well http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab153/lia1825/Gifs/286s74x.gif

[Lostie!]

But I don't really like how Rick, Carl, Daryl, Carol and Michonne are invincible because their scenes of danger aren't really that exciting.

Yeah I agree. And as much as I love Carol, things like her one-woman assault on Terminus highlight one of my issues, when they try to make certain characters too badass. It's fanservice, they did it with Daryl because he's hugely popular and then it extended to Carol.

Her character arc has been phenomenal but she doesn't need to be causing huge explosions and being presented like an unstoppable war machine to maintain that, it's overplaying it too much. The gold of her arc has been in the subtle progression of her personality (and they highlight it perfectly when she puts on the facade of her earlier self). Her transition from meek abused wife to cold, aloof pragmatist has been amazing, especially when I think everyone had her marked down as a guaranteed early death in the first couple of seasons. But I don't ever want to feel like she's untouchable because if a show like this wants to maintain its stakes, nobody should be.

Speaking of her character development, season 3 cut out a brilliant scene where she threatened to kill Merle in his sleep if he tries anything :joker:

I think they ruined Shane in the writing. He had so much potential and I honestly think if he was still alive the dynamic between himself and Rick would be so good.

Shane's descent is one of my favourite character arcs tbh and as much as he was one of my favourite characters, I do think it reached its natural conclusion. That said, having him leave rather than die then re-appear later would have been interesting. I could see him as part of the Whisperers, still haven't read much of the comics yet but from what I know about them they seem to have an ideology that seems like a more extreme extension of what he was sliding into and I could see him adopting their ways, especially after spending longer out in the wilderness alone. Although I can't see him adapting to their organized hierarchy well since he always wanted to be in charge :laugh:

Yes I know having him reappear anywhere near his old group after so long when they're not even in the same area anymore would have been unrealistic but I'd overlook it :pipe:

*details about a future arc in the comics in the spoiler tag*

[Cal.]

What are the best seasons?

I watched season 1-season 3 back when I was a big fan in 2012/2013. I lost interest in season 4 and I barely watched season 5. The last episode I fully watched was when the police officer shot and killed Beth. I think that was season 5.

[Cherie]

Considering Glenn and Abraham were killed off in the first ep, this series feels like nothing has happened :worry:

[Amy Jade]

http://metro.co.uk/2016/10/31/maria-bello-is-joining-the-walking-dead-for-series-eight-6224678/

Maria Bello has a role in season 8 :love:

[Natalie.]

They should have had Shane go off and come back later on, shouldn't have got rid of Andrea and should have killed off Daryl in the line up in my opinion

I loved Andrea and Michonne's friendship :love:

I'm going to start from season 1 when season 7 ends, forgot a lot of stuff

[Cal.]

On the final episode of season 3. Andrea :(

[Niamh.]

Apparently Glenn Mazzara thought the character had been miscasted from the off.

The actress said Andrea was meant to survive until season 8 at least and was to be the one who saved the residents of Woodbury but they called her and told her the scripts weren't writing very well for that story so they were going to kill Andrea off instead.

Sad because I thought Andrea was great and the actress played her well.

She was my favourite character (well joint favourite with Shane) until Season 3, they ruined her after that and then killed her before she could redeem herself :(

[Niamh.]

Yeah I know people think season 2 is too slow for TWD but I really enjoyed the dynamic Rick and Shane's different leaderships brought and the moral dilemmas that the group faced because of it, such as the barn full of walkers/wanting to respect Hershel's beliefs and what they should do with Randall the prisoner.

Season 2 was my favourite season

[Cal.]

When she dragged Lori for being ungrateful for still having all her family :clap1:

[Cal.]

I used to think season 3 was my favourite but idk I think Andrea's death and me really hating The Governor puts me off it now.

[Niamh.]

When she dragged Lori for being ungrateful for still having all her family :clap1:

Ugh i hated Lori

[Cal.]

Ugh i hated Lori

Same. When she practically told Rick to kill Shane and then acted disgusted with him when he actually did it. :worry:

[Niamh.]

I used to think season 3 was my favourite but idk I think Andrea's death and me really hating The Governor puts me off it now.

I hated season 3, it got boring for me when they were stationary for so long, plus I hated the Governor but in hindsight he was a much better and believable baddie than Negan is

[Cal.]

I hated season 3, it got boring for me when they were stationary for so long, plus I hated the Governor but in hindsight he was a much better and believable baddie than Negan is

I really love the prison and I think the episode with T-Dog and Lori's deaths is amazing. Plus at the time it aired I really didn't mind the Andrea in Woodbury story line but now I understand that it ruined her character since season 1 was all about her giving up and season 2 was about her deciding she wanted to live and be strong and a fighter and then season 3 just has her all over the place.

[Niamh.]

Same. When she practically told Rick to kill Shane and then acted disgusted with him when he actually did it. :worry:

:fan:

http://portabletv-media.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/lori-grimes-walking-dead-bitch.jpeg

[Niamh.]

I really love the prison and I think the episode with T-Dog and Lori's deaths is amazing. Plus at the time it aired I really didn't mind the Andrea in Woodbury story line but now I understand that it ruined her character since season 1 was all about her giving up and season 2 was about her deciding she wanted to live and be strong and a fighter and then season 3 just has her all over the place.

She turned into a wuss and abandoned her crew in S3 and they let her die like that, she was such a bad ass in S2 :fist:

[Cal.]

:fan:

http://portabletv-media.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/lori-grimes-walking-dead-bitch.jpeg

:joker:

I must say the scene where Lori is saying goodbye to Carl before Maggie cuts the baby out of her is very sad.

[Niamh.]

:joker:

I must say the scene where Lori is saying goodbye to Carl before Maggie cuts the baby out of her is very sad.

I hated her and Carl so I was just happy that one of them was gone :hehe:

[Drew.]

Yeah I know people think season 2 is too slow for TWD but I really enjoyed the dynamic Rick and Shane's different leaderships brought and the moral dilemmas that the group faced because of it, such as the barn full of walkers/wanting to respect Hershel's beliefs and what they should do with Randall the prisoner.

S2 is still my favourite. Loved everything about it from where they were located, the storylines that developed, the group being together throughout and it was was full of surprises with Sophias and Shanes deaths

[Cal.]

The S2 finale is amazing too. No one significant dies but I just love it.

[Niamh.]

S2 is still my favourite. Loved everything about it from where they were located, the storylines that developed, the group being together throughout and it was was full of surprises with Sophias and Shanes deaths

:clap2:

Indeed, don't get the hate for it at all

[Drew.]

These past few episodes have been a bit disappointing. im usually the first to defend the show when episodes don't involve much action and focus on storylines and characters developing but it's become a bit gimmicky and repetitive recently. Like all these new groups appearing seem to be clones of each other, apart from their appearances they all seem the same to me

[Cal.]

I know how the safety works</3

[Niamh.]

These past few episodes have been a bit disappointing. im usually the first to defend the show when episodes don't involve much action and focus on storylines and characters developing but it's become a bit gimmicky and repetitive recently. Like all these new groups appearing seem to be clones of each other, apart from their appearances they all seem the same to me

What is the deal with this latest lot too, they sound like they're part of one of those weird arty plays, you know the ones where they have strange music playing as they speak and they talk in a weird way? I don't know they're called

[Cal.]

Finished Season 1-3 rewatch. I wasn't sure I was going to carry on but I am.

[Drew.]

What is the deal with this latest lot too, they sound like they're part of one of those weird arty plays, you know the ones where they have strange music playing as they speak and they talk in a weird way? I don't know they're called

:joker: yeah this newest groups just straight up weird. When they all came out looking and behaving like clones of each other i was just like "ffs not another group" they don't look believable or realistic so that takes away from them being intimidating and scary, it's not working for me so far.

[Drew.]

They should have had Shane go off and come back later on, shouldn't have got rid of Andrea and should have killed off Daryl in the line up in my opinion

I loved Andrea and Michonne's friendship :love:

I'm going to start from season 1 when season 7 ends, forgot a lot of stuff

I'm gonna do this too, i can't wait :love:

[Niamh.]

:joker: yeah this newest groups just straight up weird. When they all came out looking and behaving like clones of each other i was just like "ffs not another group" they don't look believable or realistic so that takes away from them being intimidating and scary, it's not working for me so far.

I did find that zombie turned gladiator style creature pretty entertaining though :hehe:

This is what I mean, that Club Silencio scene in Mullholland Drive (from around .50secs in :

BDJlU9XWNeY

[user104658]

The armoured zombie was reminiscent of Resident Evil(s) 4 - 6 I thought. Also a pretty good idea? Like you could dress up a few hundred of them like that and keep them in a truck... unleash them on your enemies. Maybe plant some sort of remote controlled "kill switch" in the helmet that stabs them through the head when you press a button. Hmmmm.

[Niamh.]

The armoured zombie was reminiscent of Resident Evil(s) 4 - 6 I thought. Also a pretty good idea? Like you could dress up a few hundred of them like that and keep them in a truck... unleash them on your enemies. Maybe plant some sort of remote controlled "kill switch" in the helmet that stabs them through the head when you press a button. Hmmmm.

Wow you would turn into a proper evil genius if a Zombie Apocalypse occurred :laugh:

[Drew.]

I did find that zombie turned gladiator style creature pretty entertaining though :hehe:

This is what I mean, that Club Silencio scene in Mullholland Drive (from around .50secs in :

BDJlU9XWNeY

Oh yeah that zombie was pretty cool i'll give them that, there are the odd unique zombies that crop up throughout the show which are always remembered like the one they pulled from the well so that spiked up zombie will go into that category too

:laugh: i see what you mean, that guy in the video is more intimidating than the group

[Babayaro.]

These past few episodes have been a bit disappointing. im usually the first to defend the show when episodes don't involve much action and focus on storylines and characters developing but it's become a bit gimmicky and repetitive recently. Like all these new groups appearing seem to be clones of each other, apart from their appearances they all seem the same to me

My thoughts exactly. That new group who appeared in the last episode are AWFUL. Like, why have they decided to live where they do, why don't they speak or have any emotion, why does their leader (who btw, looks like she will be very annoying) use stupid signals instead of just saying the word itself. It just seems so far fetched and like you said, "gimmicky" that we have all these groups now but none of which the audience actually care about, except from a handful from Alexandria.

[Niamh.]

Oh yeah that zombie was pretty cool i'll give them that, there are the odd unique zombies that crop up throughout the show which are always remembered like the one they pulled from the well so that spiked up zombie will go into that category too

:laugh: i see what you mean, that guy in the video is more intimidating than the group

Aw I remember me and Marc used to have a Zombie of the episode competition and then a Zombie of the season out of the winners :( Well Zombie was the best one definitely. That Zombie in the armour was a bit like an Orc from Lord of the rings

Mullholland Drive is such a great (and odd film) :flutter:

[Drew.]

My thoughts exactly. That new group who appeared in the last episode are AWFUL. Like, why have they decided to live where they do, why don't they speak or have any emotion, why does their leader (who btw, looks like she will be very annoying) use stupid signals instead of just saying the word itself. It just seems so far fetched now, and like you said, "gimmicky" that we have all these groups now but none of which the audience actually care about, except from a handful from Alexandria.

:clap1:

i preferred it back in the day when they came across different people.. at least they were normal humans not pretending to be wannabe super heroes and each character had their own individual personality

[Babayaro.]

Does anyone else kind of wish they would go back to trying to find out the root cause of the outbreak like they did in the first few seasons? It looked like they would when Abe/Eugene/Rosita were introduced but we all know how that ended lol

[Niamh.]

Does anyone else kind of wish they would go back to trying to find out the root cause of the outbreak like they did in the first few seasons? It looked like they would when Abe/Eugene/Rosita were introduced but we all know how that ended lol

Yeah definitely

[user104658]

Did anyone else notice the weird 80's-esque music going on in the last episode?

...what's that all about? Just... why? It doesn't really fit the tone of TWD at all and is totally different from any and all background music used in the past :umm2:.

I think the sound directors have been watching too much "Stranger Things".

[Cal.]

Rosita :love:

[Babayaro.]

http://i.imgur.com/8A1lCot.jpg

[Nicky91]

i liked the episode, some new characters who are interesting :)

[Cal.]

Dawn is such a SLAG kill her

[Cal.]

I've never wanted a character dead more than Dawn

[Amy Jade]

I've never wanted a character dead more than Dawn

Hate the ****.

[Josy]

I hate the new group, the leader is like some weird pound shop mila jovovich and it all had a mad max vibe to it, meh.

[Nicky91]

I hate the new group, the leader is like some weird pound shop mila jovovich and it all had a mad max vibe to it, meh.

i like Milla Jovovich :love:, and this mad max vibe i also notice it :)

[user104658]

I hate the new group, the leader is like some weird pound shop mila jovovich and it all had a mad max vibe to it, meh.

:joker:

But yeah I also notice the Mad Max vibe, especially with their unusual way of saying things ("the up up"... :umm2: ). Like all of these people had lived before the apocalypse, why has living in a dump for a few years made them forget how to speak properly?? They'll be looking for some guzzoline for their vroom-vroom horses next. "We want bang boom sticks to fight bad man".

Also their introduction was completely out of sync with the usual tone of the show, right down to the music selection which I mentioned before. I don't personally have an issue with shows changing direction a bit on occasion... But it has to be gradual... This came totally out of nowhere.

[Cal.]

How long are they in Alexandria for? They're still in it now in late season 7 aren't they? I'm on season 5 and they're already here welp.

[Nicky91]

nice episode, more from Negan this time, and Eugene becoming a savior :)

[user104658]

How long are they in Alexandria for? They're still in it now in late season 7 aren't they? I'm on season 5 and they're already here welp.

As far as I know (in terms of the comics) they're still there and loads has happened in the comics that hasn't in the shows yet. For now at least it's moved on from the "constantly on the move" stuff of the earlier seasons... they don't really consider Walkers to be much of a "threat" at this point because they're so good at taking them out, more like any other dangerous animal that they have to deal with when they leave a place that has walls. There are a LOT more human characters now (towns with hundreds) and it's all mainly centered around human threats with the walkers being more of a "backdrop".

The show isn't REALLY a Zombie show any more to be honest, so much as a general post-apocalyptic show where "Zombies" happens to have been the world ending event. It wouldn't be "realistic" any other way to be fair. They've been living and surviving with walkers for (I'd guess based on Judith's apparent age) about 2 - 3 years now so anyone still alive would definitely have adapted, and would be focussed on trying to rebuild a home and society rather than raw survival.

[user104658]

Eugene becoming a savior :)

:joker: @ "I'm Negan! I was Negan before I ever met you I just didn't know it yet :hee:"

[user104658]

The question is... is Eugene really still just a coward? Has he been marginalised and mocked by Rick & co to the extent that he really does feel like he has found "his place" with the Saviors?

OR... is he simply smarter than Daryl... who I said as soon as Negan took him, should hold out for a while and then pretend to be "broken", become a Savior, get on the inside and help to destroy them from there. Is that Eugene's long term plan? Get close to Negan for now, keep his head down, wait for the war to come and then be in position to make a difference from the inside? Hmmm.

[Drew.]

Much better episode than the previous 2 :clap1: I like the way the story is developing with the Saviors. I get the feeling people who are part of the Saviors might end up causing more damage to the group by rebelling against Negan than what Rick and everyone else might do.

[Nicky91]

:joker: @ "I'm Negan! I was Negan before I ever met you I just didn't know it yet :hee:"

The question is... is Eugene really still just a coward? Has he been marginalised and mocked by Rick & co to the extent that he really does feel like he has found "his place" with the Saviors?

OR... is he simply smarter than Daryl... who I said as soon as Negan took him, should hold out for a while and then pretend to be "broken", become a Savior, get on the inside and help to destroy them from there. Is that Eugene's long term plan? Get close to Negan for now, keep his head down, wait for the war to come and then be in position to make a difference from the inside? Hmmm.

well i think this could be the end of Eugene, if he does try it like this, trying to be a hero :hehe:

i don't think Negan is that stupid, and i rather see more of Negan for some reason rather than Eugene :)

[Cal.]

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[Niamh.]

:joker:

But yeah I also notice the Mad Max vibe, especially with their unusual way of saying things ("the up up"... :umm2: ). Like all of these people had lived before the apocalypse, why has living in a dump for a few years made them forget how to speak properly?? They'll be looking for some guzzoline for their vroom-vroom horses next. "We want bang boom sticks to fight bad man". B]

Also their introduction was completely out of sync with the usual tone of the show, right down to the music selection which I mentioned before. I don't personally have an issue with shows changing direction a bit on occasion... But it has to be gradual... This came totally out of nowhere.

:laugh3:

[Nicky91]

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who is this :hehe:

[Niamh.]

The question is... is Eugene really still just a coward? Has he been marginalised and mocked by Rick & co to the extent that he really does feel like he has found "his place" with the Saviors?

OR... is he simply smarter than Daryl... who I said as soon as Negan took him, should hold out for a while and then pretend to be "broken", become a Savior, get on the inside and help to destroy them from there. Is that Eugene's long term plan? Get close to Negan for now, keep his head down, wait for the war to come and then be in position to make a difference from the inside? Hmmm.

Surely if a double cross was the plan poisoning Negan would be a good option? (although would be too uneventful for the show obviously)

Didn't really like this episode, Negan is too annoying and the whole Negan scenario is just not believable, he's one guy and he's awful to pretty much everyone, i just don't buy their loyalty to him

[Niamh.]

Much better episode than the previous 2 :clap1: I like the way the story is developing with the Saviors. I get the feeling people who are part of the Saviors might end up causing more damage to the group by rebelling against Negan than what Rick and everyone else might do.

Oh god, i was the opposite, i much preferred the last two episodes to this one

[Niamh.]

who is this :hehe:

Maggie from TWD :laugh:

[Nicky91]

Maggie from TWD :laugh:

okay, i'm not paying much attention to her on the show, i like Rosita, Tara, Carol more than her :)

[user104658]

Surely if a double cross was the plan poisoning Negan would be a good option? (although would be too uneventful for the show obviously)

I couldn't figure out if this was because Eugene is actually enjoying his new found "importance", though, or simply because he really is a coward and worries that the plan might fail (or perhaps that the wives have been instructed by Negan to "test" him) and he would be killed or punished.

He did seem to love it back when everyone believed he was leading them to a cure and were going all out to protect him as "precious cargo". He was miserable when everyone found out that he was a fraud. And that smile now that he's with another group who believe that he's a real scientist with multiple PhDs again...

Didn't really like this episode, Negan is too annoying and the whole Negan scenario is just not believable, he's one guy and he's awful to pretty much everyone, i just don't buy their loyalty to him

I don't know, I think at least this episode showed that his followers DO want him dead and some are actively plotting against him, which makes more sense. Still not a huge amount of sense as someone would have succeeded by now... but more sense than before. Also I think it's starting to become pretty clear that Dwight will turn on Negan at some point, he's already shown being willing to lie to him and manipulate him (telling him that his wife was killed, also framing the doctor for Daryl's release) so I think it's likely that when it all comes to a head and he realises that there is a real challenge against Negan's dominance... he will quickly flip sides, possibly taking a group of other current Negan followers with him.

[Niamh.]

I couldn't figure out if this was because Eugene is actually enjoying his new found "importance", though, or simply because he really is a coward and worries that the plan might fail (or perhaps that the wives have been instructed by Negan to "test" him) and he would be killed or punished.

He did seem to love it back when everyone believed he was leading them to a cure and were going all out to protect him as "precious cargo". He was miserable when everyone found out that he was a fraud. And that smile now that he's with another group who believe that he's a real scientist with multiple PhDs again...



I don't know, I think at least this episode showed that his followers DO want him dead and some are actively plotting against him, which makes more sense. Still not a huge amount of sense as someone would have succeeded by now... but more sense than before. Also I think it's starting to become pretty clear that Dwight will turn on Negan at some point, he's already shown being willing to lie to him and manipulate him (telling him that his wife was killed, also framing the doctor for Daryl's release) so I think it's likely that when it all comes to a head and he realises that there is a real challenge against Negan's dominance... he will quickly flip sides, possibly taking a group of other current Negan followers with him.

I didn't understand why he wanted to frame the Doctor though, that one puzzled me, it wasn't like it was helping his wife anymore or anything :think:

[user104658]

I didn't understand why he wanted to frame the Doctor though, that one puzzled me, it wasn't like it was helping his wife anymore or anything :think:

Because of Negan being who he is, he NEEDS to punish "someone" for something going so wrong. Negan doesn't really care who it is. Since it couldn't be the person who really did it... it would probably have been Dwight as the closest person to her, if he hadn't offered up an alternative.

[Niamh.]

Because of Negan being who he is, he NEEDS to punish "someone" for something going so wrong. Negan doesn't really care who it is. Since it couldn't be the person who really did it... it would probably have been Dwight as the closest person to her, if he hadn't offered up an alternative.

right ok that makes sense I guess

[Firewire]

Christian Serratos is pregnant so I'm not sure how this will impact the show

Season 7 has finished but season 8 isn't due to start filming until May

In the comics Rosita actually becomes pregnant, but not sure they would do that so soon after Maggie

[Cal.]

:worry:

Seen speculation that either (or a combination of) Sasha, Rosita or Tara will die in the season finale when they take on Holly and Denise's deaths (?) (not sure the ins and outs) from the comics.

[Cal.]

On further reading, in the comics Holly (an Alexandrian) storms The Sanctuary's gates after The Saviours kill Abraham and is captured and killed by Negan after killing several of his men when he mistakes her for Andrea. She is then returned to Alexandria with a bag over her head so they don't know she's turned and she ends up biting and killing Denise who runs to her aid.

I'm guessing either Sasha or Rosita are the ones who take on Holly's death as they both have a similar story line running at the moment in wanting to get revenge for Abraham's death (many people are guessing Sasha since Negan could mistake her for Michonne, who has taken on the role of Andrea in the TV show) - and then Tara will get Denise's death which will be kind of fitting considering they were romantically linked on the show.

[Headie]

On further reading, in the comics Holly (an Alexandrian) storms The Sanctuary's gates after The Saviours kill Abraham and is captured and killed by Negan after killing several of his men when he mistakes her for Andrea. She is then returned to Alexandria with a bag over her head so they don't know she's turned and she ends up biting and killing Denise who runs to her aid.

I'm guessing either Sasha or Rosita are the ones who take on Holly's death as they both have a similar story line running at the moment in wanting to get revenge for Abraham's death (many people are guessing Sasha since Negan could mistake her for Michonne, who has taken on the role of Andrea in the TV show) - and then Tara will get Denise's death which will be kind of fitting considering they were romantically linked on the show.

AMC better be prepared for the messy race rows if they do that since Michonne and Sasha are different skin tones :joker:

[Cal.]

AMC better be prepared for the messy race rows if they do that since Michonne and Sasha are different skin tones :joker:

I thought this. And apparently they removed the racial element from the comics regarding Negan sacrificing Michonne in the show (in the comics Negan doesn't beat Michonne to death because he doesn't want to be branded a racist or something?) so I doubt they'd do this. If it Sasha who dies (and it's very likely considering the actress is joining a new project) then they'll probably remove the mistaken identity element.

[Amy Jade]

The show killed off Holly when the Wolves attacked so I had a feeling one of the remaining ladies would take her role in attacking Negan. My guess is it being Sasha as Sonequa has a starring role in Star Trek: Discovery so I can't see her being able to do both shows.

Christian being pregnant may not be an issue, Alana survuved her irl pregnancy on the show :laugh:

[Cal.]

The show killed off Holly when the Wolves attacked so I had a feeling one of the remaining ladies would take her role in attacking Negan. My guess is it being Sasha as Sonequa has a starring role in Star Trek: Discovery so I can't see her being able to do both shows.

Christian being pregnant may not be an issue, Alana survuved her irl pregnancy on the show :laugh:

That's a good point about Christian. They couldn't kill her off/effectively sack her for being pregnant. I reckon Rosita will go off to live in another community then for like the first half of season 8 so she's less prominent.

Also, I'm all caught up. The first 3 seasons are thoroughly enjoyable for me. I'm not much for season 4 or 5 but they do have some good episodes but I think the show really picked back up when they got to Alexandria.

[Cal.]

Apparently the Junkyard group eventually side with Negan. :worry:

[Firewire]

i think Rosita will go to find Eugene and will end up becoming one of Negan's wives

[Cal.]

i think Rosita will go to find Eugene and will end up becoming one of Negan's wives

That's a good shout. That's very likely. If they did some clever shots like they did with Tara where they hid the baby bump it could be a very plausible way of getting Rosita out of the action whilst Christian's heavily pregnant/on maternity leave.

[Cal.]

This is unlikely since they've established in some recent episodes that Rosita dislikes Sasha, but Rosita and Sasha could potentially team up and both take Holly's role in the comics with storming the Sanctuary and killing some of Negan's men - then Negan kills Sasha and punishes Rosita by making her one of his wives.

[Cal.]

Mess sorry for the spam but apparently the death will be a 'remix' of Holly's death in the comics so maybe Rosita and Sasha will both take on the role of Holly instead of just one of them after all.

[Lostie!]

Finally watched last week's. It was good to get more focus on Negan's wives (or some of them) and I like that they're actively trying to get rid of him. The blonde one really reminds me of Beth :laugh:

[Amy Jade]

I'm still not over Beth :(

[Cal.]

Mess sorry for the spam but apparently the death will be a 'remix' of Holly's death in the comics so maybe Rosita and Sasha will both take on the role of Holly instead of just one of them after all.

Looks like I was right!

[Cal.]

Another episode next week just focused on a particular set of characters.

I get they have 16 episodes to fill a season but it's frustrating not seeing the full picture for episodes on end.

[Nicky91]

i loved last nights episode, Rick and Michonne scenes were great :D


Sasha wanting to kill Negan, i have a bad feeling about this for Sasha being killed, something like that anyway :(

[Babayaro.]

This show has lost all sense of surprise. I mean, Rick and Michonne are practically untouchable and it's gotten to the point that it's quite insulting to the fans. That scene were Michonne thought Rick had died was awful. There was a small part of me that was hoping that it actually was him and not the deer, and i'm never one for wishing death on the good guys.

Also, I know every episode can't be action-packed but it's starting to become a joke how almost every one now seems to just focus entirely on a few characters. I'll always watch the show but it's starting to lose it's way. So far season 7 has not been what it was hyped up to be. Who knows, the final few episode might revive my interest but right now, I don't really care for the show, which is the first time that's happened.

[Niamh.]

Another episode next week just focused on a particular set of characters.

I get they have 16 episodes to fill a season but it's frustrating not seeing the full picture for episodes on end.

I liked it but for me it depends on who the focus is on, I didn't like the Saviours one much last week but I liked the Rick and michonne dynamic and I like seeing their relationship develop too

[Cal.]

I liked it but for me it depends on who the focus is on, I didn't like the Saviours one much last week but I liked the Rick and michonne dynamic and I like seeing their relationship develop too

Hmm I guess you're right.

Next week is Carol-centric and apparently-

She finds out that Negan killed Abraham and Glenn, decides she can't continue with her life of not killing/isolation and goes back to the Kingdom to try and get them to help Rick.

So I'm looking forward to it.

[Niamh.]

Hmm I guess you're right.

Next week is Carol-centric and apparently-

She finds out that Negan killed Abraham and Glenn, decides she can't continue with her life of not killing/isolation and goes back to the Kingdom to try and get them to help Rick.

So I'm looking forward to it.

Oh Cool, Carol is one of my favourite characters

[Cal.]

Loved that episode.

Finally the Kingdom are joining the fight. Poor Benjamin. Carol is back :flutter:

[Cal.]

Next week-

Should get some Maggie and Daryl scenes whilst they hide from the Saviors. :flutter:

Sasha getting Negan in her sights :omgno:

[user104658]

I liked it but for me it depends on who the focus is on, I didn't like the Saviours one much last week but I liked the Rick and michonne dynamic and I like seeing their relationship develop too
Nehhhh I can't buy into Richonne at all. They had a close friendship / almost sibling-like relationship and then suddenly, out of nowhere, they're at it like rabbits? And they have zero chemistry. It just doesn't work...

[user104658]

This show has lost all sense of surprise. I mean, Rick and Michonne are practically untouchable and it's gotten to the point that it's quite insulting to the fans. That scene were Michonne thought Rick had died was awful. There was a small part of me that was hoping that it actually was him and not the deer, and i'm never one for wishing death on the good guys.

Also, I know every episode can't be action-packed but it's starting to become a joke how almost every one now seems to just focus entirely on a few characters. I'll always watch the show but it's starting to lose it's way. So far season 7 has not been what it was hyped up to be. Who knows, the final few episode might revive my interest but right now, I don't really care for the show, which is the first time that's happened.
Agree about the Rick death scene. I actually said at the time, as the blood was flying, "Do you think they actually expect us to believe that's really Rick?". Like killing off Glenn and Abraham in a huge season finale is going to make me believe that they'd randomly kill off Rick, of all people, in a random mid-season episode.

[Amy Jade]

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Nabila is my new favourite character :love:

[Niamh.]

Nehhhh I can't buy into Richonne at all. They had a close friendship / almost sibling-like relationship and then suddenly, out of nowhere, they're at it like rabbits? And they have zero chemistry. It just doesn't work...

I disagree I think they have chemistry, it's not unbelievable that a friendship would develop into a relationship, that happens all the time

Agree about the Rick death scene. I actually said at the time, as the blood was flying, "Do you think they actually expect us to believe that's really Rick?". Like killing off Glenn and Abraham in a huge season finale is going to make me believe that they'd randomly kill off Rick, of all people, in a random mid-season episode.

I know right? ffs :laugh:

[Niamh.]

I found this episode abit boring I have to say but I appreciate they need episodes like this to build up to the battle with the saviours. So glad carol has snapped out of it too, bad ass carol is much better

[user104658]

I disagree I think they have chemistry, it's not unbelievable that a friendship would develop into a relationship, that happens all the time


I just find them both to be completely out of character when they're playing that role. Michonne suddenly going all "Wah I couldn't go on without yooouuu" and having to be talked around by Rick? It just doesn't fit for me :joker:. If it was more a "very good friends with benefits" physical sort of thing I could get on board with it more... this idea that they're now suddenly in love and can't live without each other just grates a bit. Basically what Rick was saying to her is closer to what it should be by default; they are warriors, they are at war, they are trying to fix the world for future generations and that needs to be their focus. But Michonne would already know that and already feel it totally? She would more realistically be the one explaining it, rather than the one needing to hear it. Rick has been the more emotional / unstable one throughout the entire series.

[Nicky91]

okay nice episode last night, i really liked Morgan and Carol in this episode :)

[Niamh.]

I just find them both to be completely out of character when they're playing that role. Michonne suddenly going all "Wah I couldn't go on without yooouuu" and having to be talked around by Rick? It just doesn't fit for me :joker:. If it was more a "very good friends with benefits" physical sort of thing I could get on board with it more... this idea that they're now suddenly in love and can't live without each other just grates a bit. Basically what Rick was saying to her is closer to what it should be by default; they are warriors, they are at war, they are trying to fix the world for future generations and that needs to be their focus. But Michonne would already know that and already feel it totally? She would more realistically be the one explaining it, rather than the one needing to hear it. Rick has been the more emotional / unstable one throughout the entire series.

Yeah but people aren't always going to be the same in real life either, just because he's been more emotional in the past doesn't mean he's always in that place just like Michonne doesn't have to be the unemotional one all the time

[user104658]

Yeah but people aren't always going to be the same in real life either, just because he's been more emotional in the past doesn't mean he's always in that place just like Michonne doesn't have to be the unemotional one all the time

Such a Richonne stan :hmph:. I prefer Cargan... when are we going to see some of that action? Much better that Darol, that always creeped me out a bit.

[Niamh.]

Such a Richonne stan :hmph:. I prefer Cargan... when are we going to see some of that action? Much better that Darol, that always creeped me out a bit.

Who is Gan? :laugh:

Well, I hate Rick and I like Michonne and she makes Rick more bearable :hee:

[Niamh.]

ohhhh Morgan got it :laugh: She also has Ezekiel interested, carol is the most sought after female on the show

[Babayaro.]

I too, am not a fan of Richonne.

[Babayaro.]

Imagine Duane is still alive :omgno:

[Niamh.]

Imagine Duane is still alive :omgno:

We never saw his body did we? That's probably a sign that he is still alive somewhere I reckon

[Babayaro.]

We never saw his body did we? That's probably a sign that he is still alive somewhere I reckon

Nope. We never saw anything, it was just Morgan telling us that he died. Would be interesting if he ended up being a Saviour, but that is pretty unrealistic lol

[user104658]

IIRC Morgan did actually see him die though, according to his version of events. They were out on a supply run and had gotten good at taking out Walkers so Morgan was just letting him get on with it - but then his zombieMum appeared and he hesitated and couldn't kill her and she bit him. I'm sure Morgan recounted having actually watched it happen... that he couldn't get to him quickly enough.

[Niamh.]

IIRC Morgan did actually see him die though, according to his version of events. They were out on a supply run and had gotten good at taking out Walkers so Morgan was just letting him get on with it - but then his zombieMum appeared and he hesitated and couldn't kill her and she bit him. I'm sure Morgan recounted having actually watched it happen... that he couldn't get to him quickly enough.

I just looked up exactly what was said, it's not 100% clear :think:

Morgan told Rick that he was unable to shoot his reanimated wife and his son Duane was frozen, as well. "She was just... Just on him," Morgan said.

"And I see red," Morgan went on. "I see red. Everything is red. Everything I see is red."



Now, Morgan was crazy and talking in all sorts of metaphors during the season three episode but it feels pretty clearly laid out that Morgan saw blood and Duane was dying before his eyes. However, when Rick asked Morgan, "Is he dead?" Morgan told him, "No."

He did follow up his claims of Duane not being dead with, "He will be."

[Babayaro.]

That's the article I read too lol

[user104658]

I just looked up exactly what was said, it's not 100% clear :think:

Morgan told Rick that he was unable to shoot his reanimated wife and his son Duane was frozen, as well. "She was just... Just on him," Morgan said.

"And I see red," Morgan went on. "I see red. Everything is red. Everything I see is red."



Now, Morgan was crazy and talking in all sorts of metaphors during the season three episode but it feels pretty clearly laid out that Morgan saw blood and Duane was dying before his eyes. However, when Rick asked Morgan, "Is he dead?" Morgan told him, "No."

He did follow up his claims of Duane not being dead with, "He will be."

Hmmm I suppose that could be interpreted as, Morgan just snapped mentally, wandered off and didn't go back but his son could have escaped? Morgan did stick around that same town "clearing" after that though, so why didn't his son go home? Unless, he did, but saw Morgan in his full on crazy state and got scared and left...

Still, that wouldn't explain him turning up now. It was a long journey from where Morgan was to the Prison, and then even further again to Terminus, and on to Alexandria. The only explanation for him being anywhere near there would be if he followed Morgan... and A) why would he if he thought Morgan was insane and B) if he did follow him, he would know that he was better now.

It would only make sense if Morgan at some point realises that he might still be alive, and travels back to that area to look for him.

[Niamh.]

Hmmm I suppose that could be interpreted as, Morgan just snapped mentally, wandered off and didn't go back but his son could have escaped? Morgan did stick around that same town "clearing" after that though, so why didn't his son go home? Unless, he did, but saw Morgan in his full on crazy state and got scared and left...

Still, that wouldn't explain him turning up now. It was a long journey from where Morgan was to the Prison, and then even further again to Terminus, and on to Alexandria. The only explanation for him being anywhere near there would be if he followed Morgan... and A) why would he if he thought Morgan was insane and B) if he did follow him, he would know that he was better now.

It would only make sense if Morgan at some point realises that he might still be alive, and travels back to that area to look for him.

Unless he was taken by another group and held captive or something before he could get back to his dad? Or they lied and told him his dad was dead

[user104658]

Unless he was taken by another group and held captive or something before he could get back to his dad? Or they lied and told him his dad was dead

But how would he know where to go now? TWD started off in Atlanta and Alexandria / The Kingdom etc. are all in or around Washington DC, which is something like 600 miles away (the huge journey they undertook when they all became Zombie-killing ninjas and nearly starved).