Who do you want to see in the Shadow Cabinet?

[JoshBB]

From a perspective of who you'd like to see (for reasons of you liking them, not bc you want them to flop :laugh:)

I'd like to possibly see these people:

Cat Smith
Diane Abbott - welfare / education??
Dennis Skinner
Rushnaara Ali
Stella Creasy - culture maybe?
Kelvin Hopkins
Chuka Ummuna - business again possibly
Andy Burnham - would suit shadow transport minister

[JoshBB]

He's already said that Rosie Winterton will remain as Shadow Chief Whip, even tho I just googled and she slandered him tons during the election. Apparently calling to 'strengthen' opposition to him. He said he wouldn't use the Chief Whip much anyway though.

source - http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/national/news/13716076.New_Labour_leader_Jeremy_Corbyn_considers _frontbench_options/

[Pete.]

Iconic Chukka and Diane please :love:

[JoshBB]

Liz Kendall would actually be quite good as Minister for Women & Equalities I think

When she told a journalist who asked about her weight to F off, I liked that.

[Pete.]

Yeah Liz is a good politician, I would love her to be involved somehow especially since her and Jeremy seemed not to take the leadership battle personally serious

[JoshBB]

Baroness Smith of Basildon (Angela Smith) - Leader of the Opposition in House of Lords
Lord Bassam of Brighton (Steve Bassam) - Opposition Chief Whip in House of Lords

both allowed to keep their jobs

Yeah Liz is a good politician, I would love her to be involved somehow especially since her and Jeremy seemed not to take the leadership battle personally serious

I quite like her personality, despite her policies not being that great. She didn't get too involved with personal attacks like the other 2 did either.

[Kizzy]

Caroline Flint ... um, not sure who hasn't ruled themselves out will have a think, looking forward to hearing Joeys verdict :)

[MTVN]

No way would Liz or Chuka ever work for Corbyn

[T*]

i thought this was like a new bb twist omg

[joeysteele]

From a perspective of who you'd like to see (for reasons of you liking them, not bc you want them to flop :laugh:)

I'd like to possibly see these people:

Cat Smith
Diane Abbott - welfare / education??
Dennis Skinner
Rushnaara Ali
Stella Creasy - culture maybe?
Kelvin Hopkins
Chuka Ummuna - business again possibly
Andy Burnham - would suit shadow transport minister

My hope is he leaves Andy in Health, Andy tears trips off Jeremy Hunt on this vital issue and Andy has a brilliant vision for the NHS too.

Chukka is going to the backbenches but really he has a wealth of others to choose cabinet postions for.
I'd like to see Stella Creasy get a good role and also Ben Bradshaw too,I hope he brings him to a more prominant role.
Chris Bryant I have a lot of time for as well.

It will be interesting.
I did hope Yvette Cooper would have gone for more unity and accepted some role too,I was shocked she has gone, she did say she wasn't the type to take her ball and run away,then it seems has.

Liz Kendall is no loss whatsoever to me either as to a shadow cabinet post or even from the Labour party itself.

[arista]

From a perspective of who you'd like to see (for reasons of you liking them, not bc you want them to flop :laugh:)

I'd like to possibly see these people:

Cat Smith
Diane Abbott - welfare / education??
Dennis Skinner
Rushnaara Ali
Stella Creasy - culture maybe?
Kelvin Hopkins
Chuka Ummuna - business again possibly
Andy Burnham - would suit shadow transport minister

D.Abbott
She said she wants to stay on back bench.

Dennis is to Ill

Chucka and Andy have both run to back bench


Stella - Yes

[arista]

Caroline Flint ... um, not sure who hasn't ruled themselves out will have a think, looking forward to hearing Joeys verdict :)



Yes Flint should be in

[Kizzy]

Lammy for housing?

'Mr Lammy: Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that another element of that foreign ownership is dirty money being trafficked through London from Russia and other places, with 3.7 square miles of London owned by offshore companies—we do not know whom—and that we need serious regulation?'

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmhansrd/cm150909/halltext/150909h0001.htm

[arista]

Reports that John McDonald MP will be in his Cabinet

[MTVN]

Reports that John McDonald MP will be in his Cabinet

He wants the shadow chancellor job but if Corbyn has any sense he won't give him it

This really is a turn up for the books. All these people who a few months ago were supposed to be the leading lights of Labour and their next great hope are suddenly relegated to the back benches. Corbyn has been leader for barely more than 24 hours and the party is falling apart already.

[JoshBB]

According to the wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Opposition_Shadow_Cabinet_(United_Kingdom )#Members_of_the_Shadow_Cabinet)

Some new appointments (and small information on them):

Shadow Foreign Secretary - Hilary Benn
Son of Tony Benn. He is a vegetarian, doesn't drink alcohol.. is viewed mostly as a blairite despite his fathers' views. He had the 15th lowest expenses.

Shadow Home Secretary - Andy Burnham
2nd in Labour Leadership contest. Viewed as an inbetween of socialism and blairism within the labour party. Has had several ministerial roles in the past including health, education, and culture.

Shadow Secretary of State for Justice & Shadow Lord Chancellor - The Lord Falconer of Thoroton
Previously held his role as Secretary of State for Justice for just a month under Gordon Brown. Not a lot of info on him that I can find.

Shadow Secretary of State for Health - Heidi Alexander
First elected in 2010, a relatively new MP. Before that she has been a councillor. She is also the chair of a pro-assisted dying group.

Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland - Vernon Croaker
Member of the National Union of Teachers. Has held roles as Minister of State for Schools, and as Shadow Secretary of State for Defence.

Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland - Ian Murray
Only scottish labour MP to remain, seems logical. He has been an MP since 1997.

[JoshBB]

Some more coming through:

Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer - John McDonnell
Shadow Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills - Angela Eagle
Shadow Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government - Diane Abbott
Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury - Seema Malhotra
Shadow Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport - Michael Dugher

[MTVN]

McDonnell as Shadow Chancellor is a disaster. Even Corbyn's supporters were telling him not to appoint him to that role because he's too extreme

[MTVN]

For some insight on McDonnell, this is his view on the IRA:

"It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA."

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/may/30/northernireland.devolution

[bots]

For some insight on McDonnell, this is his view on the IRA:

It may seem perverse, but in a way I'm glad that the people with these attitudes are being brought to the fore. Previously they were hiding away, now we have a chance to remove them.

Will the labour party survive all this upheaval ? Only if it corrects itself sooner rather than later. If not there will be another party created and the party being led by Corbyn will become some left wing fringe thing consigned to the bin

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/9/14/417931/default/v1/new3-1-736x414.jpg

http://news.sky.com/story/1551925/corbyn-unveils-senior-posts-in-shadow-cabinet

[karezza]

Fat, hypocritical racist Diane Abbott and anti-British, IRA supporter John McDonnell.

[joeysteele]

I have reservations as to the Shadow Chancellor, however I will judge him on what he says and does now, not what he has in the past.
After all look at the absolute shower we have as the current Chancellor and who outside of Labour, and in fact some in Labour, were relishing the thought of Ed Balls as Chancellor.
Overall, this is a pretty good set up so far, the previous lot all failed to get the votes needed for Labour in May.

If they desire to walk away just because a leadership result hasn't been to their liking, well loyalties to those they represent and the voters that need Labour, clearly mean a lot less than their own intentions.

Any new leader has the right to sweep clean the old guard especially if it has been a failing one too, some good appointments here really.
I am glad Andy Burnham has stuck to his word as to serving any leader that got elected.
Full credit to him I say and a very happy bye bye to the huffy ones.

[bots]

He would be mad not surround himself with "people he could do business with" and in a shadow cabinet, lack of experience isn't really an issue, i just think that the cabinet that finally gets picked will provide so much fuel for the press that they are doomed from day 1

[JoshBB]

Fat, hypocritical racist Diane Abbott and anti-British, IRA supporter John McDonnell.

She is not racist, and to call her fat is nasty and offensive. Neither is she anti-british.

On John McDonnell I cannot comment because I don't know who he is, but if Corbyn has appointed him then I doubt he is an IRA supporter.

[Kizzy]

Only the Britain can do no wrong brigade would say that, and when it comes to Ireland we all know that's not true.

[MTVN]

She is not racist, and to call her fat is nasty and offensive. Neither is she anti-british.

On John McDonnell I cannot comment because I don't know who he is, but if Corbyn has appointed him then I doubt he is an IRA supporter.

Why not, Corbyn has always had IRA sympathies himself

And did you not read the quote of his I posted? Here it is again:

"It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA."

[joeysteele]

Well the IRA and the organisations connected to it had to be consulted to eventually gain any kind of peace in the end.

Because you talk to terrorists or dictators does not mean you necessarily like them.
We are at last now engaging with Iran again, staring to build new bridges there hopefully.

As Obama said, you don't make peace with your friends but with your enemies.

[Kizzy]

Totally agree, are bombs the answer to everything?....Better ask dave :/

[MTVN]

Nothing wrong with that in principle, thing is Corbyn is completely hypocritical about it as this article puts it well:

His justification for calling Hamas or the IRA his friends is that it’s only by talking that peace is achieved. This would be laudable were it not disingenuous. For much depends on what the “talking” comprises. Doubtless the British Government talked secretly to the IRA, but it wasn’t being chummy, or expressing sympathy with their aims, that brought them to the table. And if sweet-talking Hamas is to be forgiven for the results it might yield, then by the same logic Corbyn should be cosying up to Benjamin Netanyahu. In fact, the Stop the War Coalition, which Corbyn chairs, is pressing for Netanyahu to be arrested for war crimes when he visits Britain and, at the time of writing, Corbyn is listed to be among those demonstrating against the presence of the Israeli soccer team in Cardiff. To terrorists we speak, to footballers we don’t.

Abhorrence for a person’s views should not stop conversation, Corbyn insists, unless, it would appear, the person happens to be Israeli. If Corbynites see no moral or intellectual contradiction in that – insisting that Israel is uniquely wicked among nations – it isn’t only honesty they are lost to but reason itself. For a phobia is a species of madness.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/corbyn-may-say-hes-not-antisemitic-but-associating-with-the-people-he-does-is-its-own-crime-10487318.html