Racism against white people

[manton]

I would just like to know if such a thing actually exists or not?
Not a very P.C thing to ask of course, but surely it must & if so, would the media kick up a fuss about it?
Somehow i doubt it.

[rex3]

lol,

first dont use this a point to try and back your race up, bullet points to consider : -

- have you ever had anything racial said to you, and by who?

- No other race has ever started a war or crime against another race, just becuase of the skin of the colour, Nazi, Britain, America.

- Has the white race ever been subjected by the media, like Black people have over the years and Muslims who in Britain or mostly Brown people.

- Are there any racist words like **** or ******, but for white people. If so would you think there is enough hate and offence in it as much as **** or ******.

- We all know and can feel vibes of racism, which is why this whole thing in BB started, even you knew it was racism before even taking to the forums. But are trying defend your self from what comes natural.

- i have more but cant be bothered.


racism is everywere, but you cant have that equate the racism others get.

[ttw]

Of course it does.

[Sarvepalli777]

Germaine calling the girls 'White' trash was racist . . . whilst I'm still to hear Jade make a racist comment. Isn't she mixed race?

[manton]

So why when one of the white housemates was referred to as "white trash" did that not spark a major diplomatic incident/a media kick off & debate in the House of Commons?
Come on now...answer that please if you can?

[Sarvepalli777]

I am Indian and have lived happily in this country for over 30 years and I have to say that Shilpa is nothing more than a rude snob & that Jade is just a young woman who is not willing to put up with it. Mark my words, she will be exonerated of all accusations of racism. I cannot condemn my fellow countrymen back in India because the press coverage has been utterly misleading, whereas the reaction of Indians here, who have free access to the true going ons in the house, has been despicable, whose false cries of racism will do nothing but adversely affect any future true racist incidents . . . surely a classic example of the boy who cried wolf! I have witnessed Shilpa regularly insult and belittle several members of that household, regularly telling people to 'shut up', I have seen her get her own way by disregarding the majority of house mates wishes, I have heard her lie and talk badly of others behind their backs, I have even seen her physically assault Cleo when she didn't agree with her point of view!

I love my homeland and I love this country for the opportunities it has given to myself and my family but right now I am ashamed and appalled by the blind mob-like mentality of those who have jumped to the unworthy defence of a woman who has no idea how to conduct herself in the real world and should go back and immerse herself in the privileged one where she has spent her entire life.

[Jay]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Germaine calling the girls 'White' trash was racist . . . whilst I'm still to hear Jade make a racist comment. Isn't she mixed race?

It wasn't a racist remark, the phrase is used alot in the states (i think).

[rex3]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Germaine calling the girls 'White' trash was racist . . . whilst I'm still to hear Jade make a racist comment. Isn't she mixed race?

White trash goes inline with Pake and ******, and becuase shes mixed race, she isnt a racist (she is obviously white in colour, which is what people think of when racist conflicts come to mind)

[Ella]

And being white myself..the phrase 'white trash' didn't bother me one teeeny bit, but the allegation of Jack calling Shilpa a '****' now that bothered me.

And before the Jack fans start shouting, Notice how I put the word alleged there! Ok?

[manton]

Does racism not apply if a comment is aimed at a white person?
It would appear not & why not? :mad:

[rex3]

Originally posted by manton
So why when one of the white housemates was referred to as "white trash" did that not spark a major diplomatic incident/a media kick off & debate in the House of Commons?
Come on now...answer that please if you can?

read the second thread, i edit the "lol"

my pleasure

[rex3]

the very fact that you think you can defend that, shows how superior you think you are.

[Sarvepalli777]

We are not in the US

[Ella]

Originally posted by rex3
the very fact that you think you can defend that, shows how superior you think you are.

Who's that aimed at?

[Jay]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
We are not in the US

Yes i gathered that, but if Jermaine relised it would sound racist he wouldn't of said it.

[rex3]

Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Originally posted by rex3
the very fact that you think you can defend that, shows how superior you think you are.

Who's that aimed at?

manton, im white my self, im full turkish

[rex3]

To Manton, do you actually think white people have ever been victimized in the media? if so, like other races have?

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by manton
So why when one of the white housemates was referred to as "white trash" did that not spark a major diplomatic incident/a media kick off & debate in the House of Commons?
Come on now...answer that please if you can?

No one was referred to as that.

Jermaine said theres people on Jerry Springer LIKE that who are referred to as ....

[Sarvepalli777]

There are many Turks who do not consider themselves white!

[James]

Jermaine is from the United States, and 'White trash' (also 'trailer trash' and 'rednecks') is a common expression in the United States.

It used in the mainstream media there by all sorts of people - similar to how 'chav' is used here.

To answer the original question - yes, of course. All races are capable of being racist to each other, sadly.

[rex3]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
There are many Turks who do not consider themselves white!

in turms of racism, racism is visually percieved.

[ttw]

Of course there is racism against "white" people... no, it is not as obvious/common as racism towards other races but it does very much exist.

[James]

Please everyone, respect everyone else views on here.

It is a rule of the forum.

[Sarvepalli777]

He's in this country and should conduct himself as so. Trash is one thing, adding the 'white' makes it wrong.

[Colette]

I think what he actually said was that those girls would be referred to in the US as white trash, but he preferred not to as he treats all people the same.

But whatever the detail, his remarks don't coincide with a bullying campaign and therefore seem a lot less harmful to most people.

Serious racism can apply to any racial group - a racially motivated attack on a white person is just as serious as the opposite. But we tend to be (rightly in my opinion) a bit more sensitive in this country to racism from the majority against the minority.

It's the difference between a big guy kicking a little guy and a little guy kicking a big guy.

It is also true that the white working class of this country are treated pretty badly, but I don't think you can seriously make a case for Jermaine's comments being anywhere near as offensive as the three girls' behaviour

[ttw]

Can I just ask does anyone consider this as a racist comment?

"Is you wife black?"

"Of course"

[Sarvepalli777]

Not common! That poor white school boy who was beaten with a hammer by 10 asian men may not agree!

[rex3]

Originally posted by ttw
Can I just ask does anyone consider this as a racist comment?

"Is you wife black?"

"Of course"

then she should go back to the slums

[Colette]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
He's in this country and should conduct himself as so. Trash is one thing, adding the 'white' makes it wrong.

He might have done better to say 'trailer trash' (which means much the same).

But it's still not in the same league as the girls.

[rex3]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Not common! That poor white school boy who was beaten with a hammer by 10 asian men may not agree!

does the media ever show ANY headline on the hundreds of the "Asian" people have died and been injured within the past years. White people have killed and attacked sikhs thinking there muslims, it was on digg.com only yeasterday.

[Sarvepalli777]

He is not equal to all, he very rudely ignored Jade but not Shilpa.

[ttw]

Originally posted by rex3
Originally posted by ttw
Can I just ask does anyone consider this as a racist comment?

"Is you wife black?"

"Of course"

then she should go back to the slums

huh?

[Sarvepalli777]

That's religion not race.

[ttw]

No racism is right.. whether it is white to black , black to white or whatever.

It should not be measured by which is worst is that which is most common, from any party it is wrong full stop. It should not be argued over that just because racism towards white people is not as commonly heard of it is therefore 'not that bad'

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Jay
Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Germaine calling the girls 'White' trash was racist . . . whilst I'm still to hear Jade make a racist comment. Isn't she mixed race?

It wasn't a racist remark, the phrase is used alot in the states (i think).

It was blatent racism. The fact it is used in the states is no excuse.......Facts are facts.....

Shipla to win........

[ttw]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
That's religion not race.

What is religion?

[Sarvepalli777]

She was saying go to the slums to find out what real life is all about because Shilpa, through her own comments, doesn't seem to be aware of the poverty in India. This is the problem, people are only repeating sections of what is said!

[James]

Blimey, I really don't like the way people are spinning this against Jermaine to make him look like the Jade group.

He seems one of the most sensible, level-headed people in there.

I'm afraid this what happens in racism debates. :rolleyes:

[Colette]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Not common! That poor white school boy who was beaten with a hammer by 10 asian men may not agree!

Good example - that was appalling and occasionally such cases are not dealt with as seriously as when a black person is attacked.

However

1) there is a far higher proportion (per population) of attacks against racial minorities and

2) it is simply ludicrous to place Jermaine's comments in the same bracket

No-one should belittle anti-white racism, but nor should it be used as a smokescreen to deny serious problems

[James]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
She was saying go to the slums to find out what real life is all about because Shilpa, through her own comments, doesn't seem to be aware of the poverty in India. This is the problem, people are only repeating sections of what is said!

You don't really think Jade is a great authority on poverty in India? She probably couldn't even point to it on a map.

[Edwin]

"White Trash" is basically like calling someone an English version of "Chav" so I don't think it's necessarily racist. If people want to be silly, you can interpret anything as being bloody well racist. Anyone fancy a game of chess... you can be black OH SORRY.

[rex3]

The media is something completely different therefore philosophically should be left out of racism debates, becuase they are run by people that are not white-english, black or asian. They have different agendas for causing up conflicts in Britain which determines everything.

[Sarvepalli777]

Ultimately Jade is going to get hung for doing little more than stick up for herself. People seem to forget how rude Shilpa was to her mother for not being able to pronounce her name, a problem even Davina had, and taking offence, again rudely, when she was called princess, which if I were a young lady, I would find very flattering.

[Sarvepalli777]

James, she clearly knows more about it than Shilpa!

[rex3]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Ultimately Jade is going to get hung for doing little more than stick up for herself. People seem to forget how rude Shilpa was to her mother for not being able to pronounce her name, a problem even Davina had, and taking offence, again rudely, when she was called princess, which if I were a young lady, I would find very flattering.

oh my god, it took how much days of Shipla, Sherpel, Shilma and then the patronising PRINCESS? Then asking if she lives in the slums (who is that dumb too ask a question like that), shes a celeb how could she live in the slums

Admin deleted that. It was discuss the housemates, not the other forum members. James

[Sarvepalli777]

Trust me, the press is most certainly White-British!

[rex3]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Trust me, the press is most certainly White-British!

thats exactly what the sun would like you to believe (hence the chavvy lieterature) becuase that is there target audience, becuase there are more white-british here than any other race!!!!!!!!! so they'll sell more.

[Sarvepalli777]

I will not leave or shut my mouth.

[James]

Being called a 'princess' usually means 'spoilt', not a compliment.

Shilpa was more than patient with Jackiey about the name - how demeaning to describe her as 'the Indian'. Jackiey was continually horrible to her - she's the one I have the main problem over about this racism thing.

Jackiey has been saying really awful violent things in magazines about Shilpa since coming out the house also.

[rex3]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
I will not leave or shut my mouth.

did i say you will...

[James]

rex3, I edited your above post. We talk about the housemates and Big Brother or the thread will be locked.

[Sarvepalli777]

As an Indian man living in the UK I am ashamed that my people are so blind to what is really going on in that house, and utterly dumbfounded that British are being so blind as well.

[Sarvepalli777]

Princess, in the east end of London is a term of endearment, always has been & Jade's family are most certainly east end.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Ultimately Jade is going to get hung for doing little more than stick up for herself. People seem to forget how rude Shilpa was to her mother for not being able to pronounce her name, a problem even Davina had, and taking offence, again rudely, when she was called princess, which if I were a young lady, I would find very flattering.

Jade's the ringleader in all this, her attitude and language has been absolutely deplorable and her constant bitching and sniping at Shilpa is just nasty and beyond justification.

Shilpa put up with alot from Jackiey before she finally got sick of her not getting her name right.

[ttw]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Princess, in the east end of London is a term of endearment, always has been & Jade's family are most certainly east end.

That's how I interpreted it too.

When Jackiey first called her 'princess' there was someone else in the room, cannot remember who, who said she was a princess, I think it was Ken.

[ttw]

Originally posted by BB fernzy
Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Ultimately Jade is going to get hung for doing little more than stick up for herself. People seem to forget how rude Shilpa was to her mother for not being able to pronounce her name, a problem even Davina had, and taking offence, again rudely, when she was called princess, which if I were a young lady, I would find very flattering.

Jade's the ringleader in all this, her attitude and language has been absolutely deplorable and her constant bitching and sniping at Shilpa is just nasty and beyond justification.

Shilpa put up with alot from Jackiey before she finally got sick of her not getting her name right.

I don't think Jade is the ring leader at all. Jade is just the more open one, loudest, and the one that actually tells Shilpa to her face, Danielle and Jo are just as bad but the difference is they do it behind her back.

I think you'll find the first time they got really nasty about her was the time Danielle referred to her as a 'dog' and Danielle was definately the one being the most verbal and most nasty.

[rex3]

so if she is so endered why would she say that indian, why didnt see say princess as she is soooo endered

and who would ask a question like that, if she lives in the slums.

that aint even dumb, thats just too obvious, thats when the racism issue exploded

[Colette]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Princess, in the east end of London is a term of endearment, always has been & Jade's family are most certainly east end.

Bermondsey is not the East End...

But yes, it can be a term of endearment. And might have been taken that way if Jackiey had been at all polite to her, and hadn't made such a fuss about saying her name first.

As it was, it seemed like the final straw. Remember Jackiey was also so rude as to refer to her as 'the Indian' - it's not hard to see that Shilpa picked up on her underlying disrespect.

[Sarvepalli777]

Rewind your tapes, Shilpa was the first to be intentionally rude, Jades mum is just not very bright, which is not a crime . . . or racist!

[rex3]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Rewind your tapes, Shilpa was the first to be intentionally rude, Jades mum is just not very bright, which is not a crime . . . or racist!

not bright enough to say SHIL-PA she said it with davina after she left?????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????

not bright enough to no the wrongs of asking if she lived in the slums

and lets take everything we said about the Goodys becuase there just dumb, with all the life experience there having.

[James]

I think 'The Indian' is very demeaning though. It's not like it's a difficult name to say, Shilpa. Two syllables.

Anyway, this racism debate is all a bit irrelevant in the sense a lot of people agree that Jade and co have been horrible and bullies to Shilpa even before the question of racism is considered.

[Sarvepalli777]

She tried to call her by her name, got put down for it. Tried to call her Princess, got put down for it, so she called her the Indian. If someone at work doesn't know my name or how to pronounce it, I see no offence in them calling me the Indian in conversation. It's not like she was talking to Sherpa, as in, Hey you Indian!

[The_Hitman]

Shilpa put up with the patronizing name 'princess' for days, up until Jackey started coming out with the disgusting racist filth and offensive attitude. Only then, did Shilpa stick up for herself.

It seems we're getting a wave of opinions who didnt watch this show from the beginning.

[Sarvepalli777]

This won't go down well, but I think Shilpa's manner and attitude was awful right from the start.

[rex3]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
She tried to call her by her name, got put down for it. Tried to call her Princess, got put down for it, so she called her the Indian. If someone at work doesn't know my name or how to pronounce it, I see no offence in them calling me the Indian in conversation. It's not like she was talking to Sherpa, as in, Hey you Indian!

she asked her if she lived in the slums, the colour of the skin adds to the irritaition that shilpa gives to them.

[ttw]

My name is traditionally an Irish surname... not very difficult at all, I come accross people that are able to say it and also come across a few who can't... I don't get angry at them for not being able to pronounce it... some people find it hard after I try to tell them several times so I say just call me 'T'...

I have a good friend who still pronounces it slightly incorrect but I in no way see it as an insult.

[Colette]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
This won't go down well, but I think Shilpa's manner and attitude was awful right from the start.

She can be a bit patronising and stuffy, for sure. She might be a bit hard to live with.

But does that really justify the crap she's had to take from Jade?

[Sarvepalli777]

I did watch it & have re-watched it as I've been recording it for my daughter who is away on her honeymoon.

[rex3]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
This won't go down well, but I think Shilpa's manner and attitude was awful right from the start.

what you refering to the cold welcome?

well how about Ken and Jermain, and that fact she was depressed about not going in the crumy house next door?

[ttw]

Originally posted by ttw
My name is traditionally an Irish surname... not very difficult at all, I come accross people that are able to say it and also come across a few who can't... I don't get angry at them for not being able to pronounce it... some people find it hard after I try to tell them several times so I say just call me 'T'...

I have a good friend who still pronounces it slightly incorrect but I in no way see it as an insult.

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
This won't go down well, but I think Shilpa's manner and attitude was awful right from the start.

No it wasnt at all. Youre just trying to play Devils Advocate.

[Sarvepalli777]

Did you not see the stock cube episode . . . Shilpa so started the c**p there!

[The_Hitman]

Its Jades entrance thats appalling.

She walked in that house like she owned the place. She was a newcomer, and should have introduced herself properly rather than wait for people to come to her like shes some sort of queen. The horrible little brat.

[Sarvepalli777]

Nice to hear from you ttw, it is the same for me.

[ttw]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Did you not see the stock cube episode . . . Shilpa so started the c**p there!

It is true.

And at one point Jade was about to leave it but Shilpa denied the point that she lied.

But saying that, I'm pretty sure Shilpa had some vent up anger in their which contributed to the situation.

[rex3]

Originally posted by ttw
Originally posted by ttw
My name is traditionally an Irish surname... not very difficult at all, I come accross people that are able to say it and also come across a few who can't... I don't get angry at them for not being able to pronounce it... some people find it hard after I try to tell them several times so I say just call me 'T'...

I have a good friend who still pronounces it slightly incorrect but I in no way see it as an insult.

i mean, your disregarding everything that has gone on, and sticking to your same point of her getting pissed after days of different name calling, sherpel, shipla, dont you think for that long and with different names, then calling her princess was patronising and was a device for humiliation, with her then calling her the indian.


she got pissed of with the name calling, becuase it was after that, she asked if she lived in the slums

[Sarvepalli777]

What is foo-foo?

[Colette]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Did you not see the stock cube episode . . . Shilpa so started the c**p there!

I agree, she started that argument, after a lot of provocation admittedly. And it would have been something and nothing if the three girls hadn't sneered and starting going on about the chicken, instead of reacting normally. But yes, she started it.

Then Jade took it to truly offensive extremes.

It's not that Shilpa is perfect and always without blame. It's that Jade and her friends have constantly gone beyond the boundaries of acceptable behaviour.

[Sarvepalli777]

Jades mum was not being patronising, watch it again, listen to her tone, there is no malice there.

[rex3]

Originally posted by ttw
Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Did you not see the stock cube episode . . . Shilpa so started the c**p there!

It is true.

And at one point Jade was about to leave it but Shilpa denied the point that she lied.

But saying that, I'm pretty sure Shilpa had some vent up anger in their which contributed to the situation.


so she aint allowed to voice her concerns, but they are. Especially when she was feeling bullied. Your not taking into consideration of what she has been feeling for the past week.


I keep responding becuase i just think this is pathetic. its not even about standing up and taking sides, its just pathetic ignorance

[ttw]

In reference to the 'do you live in a house or a shack' quote from Jackiey, through her tone I think you could tell she was not trying to be horrible, she is just very stupid.

On a trip to Jamaica I met people who thought there weren't any black people in England and the American's I met thought all English people just drank tea and were all very posh, I became good friends with these people whilst there and I wouldn't say they were racist just unaware of my culture.

[Colette]

Originally posted by ttw
Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Did you not see the stock cube episode . . . Shilpa so started the c**p there!

It is true.

And at one point Jade was about to leave it but Shilpa denied the point that she lied.

But saying that, I'm pretty sure Shilpa had some vent up anger in their which contributed to the situation.

Actually Shilpa withdrew that to Jo, accepting what she'd said was untrue, then Jade started ranting again and Shilpa gave up...

[Dan_]

Originally posted by ttw
Originally posted by BB fernzy
Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Ultimately Jade is going to get hung for doing little more than stick up for herself. People seem to forget how rude Shilpa was to her mother for not being able to pronounce her name, a problem even Davina had, and taking offence, again rudely, when she was called princess, which if I were a young lady, I would find very flattering.

Jade's the ringleader in all this, her attitude and language has been absolutely deplorable and her constant bitching and sniping at Shilpa is just nasty and beyond justification.

Shilpa put up with alot from Jackiey before she finally got sick of her not getting her name right.

I don't think Jade is the ring leader at all. Jade is just the more open one, loudest, and the one that actually tells Shilpa to her face, Danielle and Jo are just as bad but the difference is they do it behind her back.

I think you'll find the first time they got really nasty about her was the time Danielle referred to her as a 'dog' and Danielle was definately the one being the most verbal and most nasty.

I agree that Jo and Danielle are just as bad for saying it all behind her back but I just feel that Jade's the one they look upto and try and impress and she kind seems the most vocal in all of it which gives me the impression of her being the leader.

There was tension between Jade and Shilpa beforehand but you're right that Danielle was the first to really get vile out of the three.

[rex3]

Originally posted by ttw
In reference to the 'do you live in a house or a shack' quote from Jackiey, through her tone I think you could tell she was not trying to be horrible, she is just very stupid.

On a trip to Jamaica I met people who thought there weren't any black people in England and the American's I met thought all English people just drank tea and were all very posh, I became good friends with these people whilst there and I wouldn't say they were racist just unaware of my culture.


If she lived in a shack how would she be a celeb, she about 40, and can read english... scietifically dont you think people that can read, would no the wrongings of the question, EVEN a 10 year old would know that was an attack.

[ttw]

Originally posted by rex3
Originally posted by ttw
Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Did you not see the stock cube episode . . . Shilpa so started the c**p there!

It is true.

And at one point Jade was about to leave it but Shilpa denied the point that she lied.

But saying that, I'm pretty sure Shilpa had some vent up anger in their which contributed to the situation.


so she aint allowed to voice her concerns, but they are. Especially when she was feeling bullied. Your not taking into consideration of what she has been feeling for the past week.


I keep responding becuase i just think this is pathetic. its not even about standing up and taking sides, its just pathetic ignorance

Read my comment properly, I am taking into consideration what she has been saying, that's why I said "But saying that, I'm pretty sure Shilpa had some vent up anger in their which contributed to the situation."

I am not taking sides I do not think there treatment of Shilpa is correct, I just don;t think it is racism

[Sarvepalli777]

Work calls . . . it's been nice chatting with you all & I wish you all well until the next time, lets just hope it all calms down a bit for them all. I don't think any of them are truly as bad as is being portrayed in the press.

[rex3]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Work calls . . . it's been nice chatting with you all & I wish you all well until the next time, lets just hope it all calms down a bit for them all. I don't think any of them are truly as bad as is being portrayed in the press.

thanks for the debate. sarvepalli.

James I think you can undelete my previous post which has relevene

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
What is foo-foo?

Ah good. Proof that you havnt been watching this series, which explains your contorted views on everything.

[Sarvepalli777]

??????????

[S2]

Originally posted by rex3
manton, Im white my self, Im full turkish
Your skin colour may be white, but you are certainly not white. You are classified as asian.



Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Germaine calling the girls 'White' trash was racist . . . whilst I'm still to hear Jade make a racist comment. Isn't she mixed race?
No he said like people who come on the Jerry Springer show are *mouths it* white trash, he made a comparision that linked Jades family to those who appear on the JS show.

And being mixed race doesn't mean you can't be racist.
I know lots of mixed race girls who hated on the fact they are half black, because they wanted to be fair skinned and were racist to black people.

Does racism exist amongst white people? Yeah it does. My sister-in-law who is white had to endure alot of racist abuse because she joined part of a non-white family


Being called "princess" by your mum and dad is because they love you, they want everything for you and because they want you to lead a fairly tale life, but when Jackiey called her that it wasn't for the same reason, its because she believed Shilpa waits on hand and foot her for home helpers to do everything for her. That is an alleged assumption on Jackieys part.

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by ttw

Read my comment properly, I am taking into consideration what she has been saying, that's why I said "But saying that, I'm pretty sure Shilpa had some vent up anger in their which contributed to the situation."

I am not taking sides I do not think there treatment of Shilpa is correct, I just don;t think it is racism

And yet Shilpa asks the girls an everyday question about stock-cubes, (which the girls had selfishly wasted on themselves) and you claim Shilpa is starting an argument.

No. The argument started when Jade decided Shilpa didnt have the right to ask her any questions.

[ttw]

Originally posted by rex3
Originally posted by ttw
In reference to the 'do you live in a house or a shack' quote from Jackiey, through her tone I think you could tell she was not trying to be horrible, she is just very stupid.

On a trip to Jamaica I met people who thought there weren't any black people in England and the American's I met thought all English people just drank tea and were all very posh, I became good friends with these people whilst there and I wouldn't say they were racist just unaware of my culture.


If she lived in a shack how would she be a celeb, she about 40, and can read english... scietifically dont you think people that can read, would no the wrongings of the question, EVEN a 10 year old would know that was an attack.

Well actually, before she went into the house she expained before she had eye laser surgery she thought she couldn't read, it wasn't that, she just couldn't see. And scientifically(???) just because she can read it would not therefore means she would know the wrongings of the question.

The question was lead from pure ignorance and a totally unawareness of her culture.

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Originally posted by The_Hitman
Originally posted by ttw

Read my comment properly, I am taking into consideration what she has been saying, that's why I said "But saying that, I'm pretty sure Shilpa had some vent up anger in their which contributed to the situation."

I am not taking sides I do not think there treatment of Shilpa is correct, I just don;t think it is racism

And yet Shilpa asks the girls an everyday question about stock-cubes, (which the girls had selfishly wasted on themselves) and you claim Shilpa is starting an argument.

No. The argument started when Jade decided Shilpa didnt have the right to ask her any questions.

There is a comment I made in a post about that arguement where I stated I believe Jade took the argument way too far and it was unnecassary .

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Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
Originally posted by rex3
manton, Im white my self, Im full turkish
Your skin colour may be white, but you are certainly not white. You are classified as asian.

ffs ...., but in terms of a racist looking at me and another brown person he would be racist to the brown person.

and what the hell is it with, desi people hijacking the term "asian".

its like on a form theres, Asian, Chinese, Turkish, White, Black, Other............... that irritates the hell out of me, why not have desi, which more describe the indian sub continent

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Originally posted by rex3
Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
Originally posted by rex3
manton, Im white my self, Im full turkish
Your skin colour may be white, but you are certainly not white. You are classified as asian.

ffs ...., but in terms of a racist looking at me and another brown person he would be racist to the brown person.

and what the hell is it with, desi people hijacking the term "asian".

its like on a form theres, Asian, Chinese, Turkish, White, Black, Other............... that irritates the hell out of me, why not have desi, which more describe the indian sub continent

???

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Originally posted by The_Hitman
Originally posted by ttw

Read my comment properly, I am taking into consideration what she has been saying, that's why I said "But saying that, I'm pretty sure Shilpa had some vent up anger in their which contributed to the situation."

I am not taking sides I do not think there treatment of Shilpa is correct, I just don;t think it is racism

And yet Shilpa asks the girls an everyday question about stock-cubes, (which the girls had selfishly wasted on themselves) and you claim Shilpa is starting an argument.

No. The argument started when Jade decided Shilpa didnt have the right to ask her any questions.

I didn't think it was due to the question that it broke out I think it is the fact the Shilpa lied , especially as Shilpa had taken control of the shopping.

Just because I am defending them against racism , it doesn't mean I am defending their behaviour towards Shilpa. I am not.

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Originally posted by rex3

ffs ...., but in terms of a racist looking at me and another brown person he would be racist to the brown person.

and what the hell is it with, desi people hijacking the term "asian".

its like on a form theres, Asian, Chinese, Turkish, White, Black, Other............... that irritates the hell out of me, why not have desi, which more describe the indian sub continent

Asian people have not hijacked the term "asian" so don't slap an alleged assumption on them. If you have a problem raise it in the House of Parliament.

Desi is the word used in the asian countries of India, Bangladesh, Pakistan etc to describe that they are asian

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I dont think that it was a thought out lie - I think that she felt she had ordered them for herself. I feel she might have meant they were one of the "only" things she ordered for herself.

I think that Jade was ready to sieze any opportunity to have an argument with Shilpa. She is the one that really over reacted about the question Shilpa asked and then made a huge mountain out of a mole hill.