Russia Passenger Plane has crashed in Egypt (Russia Confirms it was a Bomb)

[arista]

Reported on SkyNewsHD Live
and RT HD.

sad news for the passengers

Around 200 on board
on there way back to Russia.


http://news.sky.com/story/1579327/russian-passenger-plane-crashes-over-egypt

[kirklancaster]

More tragedy. Sad news indeed Arista.

[arista]

224 on board

Waiting for more on site updates

So far wreckage has been found


FoxNewsHD saying it broke in two

[kirklancaster]

Just heard on the news Arista that there are no survivors and that the plane "went down very, very quickly". It's a mystery. Keep us all posted mate. Tank you.

[Cherie]

I hope its a coincidence that it was a Russian plane ..RIP to all who died

[arista]

[Russian aviation sources are reporting that the plane
was carrying 200 adult passengers,
17 children and 7 crew members.
The Airbus A321, operated by the Russian airline
Kogalymavia, was travelling from the Egyptian resort
of Sharm el-Sheikh to the Russian city of St Petersburg
when it disappeared from radar screens 23 minutes into the flight.
Egyptian security sources say there is no indication
the plane was shot down or blown up.]

http://news.sky.com/story/1579327/voices-heard-in-russian-jet-wreckage-reports

Tragic ,the plane was about 18 years old
I assume it was the planes fault

[Kizzy]

I thought sabotage too, hope it wasn't :(

[kirklancaster]

I thought sabotage too, hope it wasn't :(

It is a strange coincidence though, isn't it? That Russia gets involved in bombing IS, then this happens to a Russian plane over the Middle East? Let's hope not.

[arista]

Isis claim they shot it down - But Egypt say thats Not True.

They now have the Black box
but will not allow any Photos getting near the crash site?

[Cherie]

Isis claim they shot it down - But Egypt say thats Not True.

They now have the Black box
but will not allow any Photos getting near the crash site?

OMG if true, Egypt will want to protect tourism and won't be keen to confirm if this is the case

[user104658]

Isis claim they shot it down - But Egypt say thats Not True.

They now have the Black box
but will not allow any Photos getting near the crash site?

ISIS will claim anything these days it seems. "Yeah that was us too whatever."

In truth, unless it was soon after take-off, it couldn't have been ISIS. They simply don't have the military tech to take down a plane at altitude. Unless they're claiming to have had someone on-board.

[Cherie]

ISIS will claim anything these days it seems. "Yeah that was us too whatever."

In truth, unless it was soon after take-off, it couldn't have been ISIS. They simply don't have the military tech to take down a plane at altitude. Unless they're claiming to have had someone on-board.

I tend to agree and if original reports of people being strapped to seats and bodies being recovered I doubt this would be the case if it were blown up

[Raph]

This seems to be happening more and more these days, scary stuff and very sad indeed.

[arista]

Two Big airlines will not Fly over that zone, now.


As no one knows why it Crashed , yet.

[user104658]

This seems to be happening more and more these days, scary stuff and very sad indeed.

I personally think there are a couple of factors. One is more and more flights every day, the other is that a lot of the commercial planes in the air today were built at a similar sort of time and it's just faults in aging tech...

Look at this gif though...

http://media.giphy.com/media/2MhJb4CuNBU64/giphy.gif

Obviously each time the block of sunlight sweeps round is one day. The yellow dots are flights. It's insane really...

[Crimson Dynamo]

I have not been on a plane in 10 years and thankfully do not think I ever will again

yes you are moire likely to die in a car but its not comparable

[user104658]

yes you are more likely to die in a car but its not comparable


I think what makes driving less scary is that there at least seems to be an element of control. If you're in a plane and you know it's going down... ... well, there can't be much worse.

Then again, you know it's going down for a few minutes and then you die instantly. A car crash MIGHT be death on impact, but on the other hand, it might be hours stuck in a wrecked car with limbs hanging off, knowing full well that you're on the way out but suffering anyway. Some of the stories I've read from emergency services regarding car wrecks. People still talking to them asking if they're going to be OK, when the emergency crew knows that half of their body is 50 metres south and it's only the weight of what's on top of them that's stopping them from dying instantly.

Meh. Pleasant thread...

[Cherie]

I have not been on a plane in 10 years and thankfully do not think I ever will again

yes you are moire likely to die in a car but its not comparable


No travel :eek:

I think what makes driving less scary is that there at least seems to be an element of control. If you're in a plane and you know it's going down... ... well, there can't be much worse.

Then again, you know it's going down for a few minutes and then you die instantly. A car crash MIGHT be death on impact, but on the other hand, it might be hours stuck in a wrecked car with limbs hanging off, knowing full well that you're on the way out but suffering anyway. Some of the stories I've read from emergency services regarding car wrecks. People still talking to them asking if they're going to be OK, when the emergency crew knows that half of their body is 50 metres south and it's only the weight of what's on top of them that's stopping them from dying instantly.

Meh. Pleasant thread...


At least on a plane consciousness will be lost in seconds

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/10/31/427321/default/v2/rtx1u594-1-1-736x414.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/10/31/427329/default/v1/cegrab-20151031-190848-216-1-736x414.jpg

Photos At last

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/10/31/20/article-3297871-2DFD620300000578-540_964x388.jpg

[empire]

something is not right there, the sinai is a hot bed for insurgency, it got worse when mubarak was overthrown, it should of also been off limits to civil aircraft, if it was shot down, then putin will send bomber jets to egypt,

[Ammi]

..Wife claims Egypt crash pilot was 'concerned about plane'....



The co-pilot of the Russian passenger jet which crashed in Egypt's Sinai peninsula had complained about the plane's state before the flight, his wife has claimed.

Sergei Truckahev reportedly called his daughter to say "the technical condition of the aircraft left much to be desired" – shortly before the Airbus A321 crashed into a mountainous area, killing the 217 passengers and seven crew on board.

At least 150 bodies have been recovered so far, many of whom were still strapped to their seats.

Vladimir Putin has declared Sunday as a national day of mourning, and the Kremlin has sent an emergency response team to the site of the crash.
According to Russian officials, 25 of those on board Flight KFL-9268 were children.

Another plane has also flown to the region to begin the process of repatriating the victims. All but four of them were Russian nationals, and the rest were Ukrainians.

Moscow has also played down claims that a terror group affiliated with Islamic State was responsible for downing the passenger jet – but it is unclear whether militants in the region would have the capability to attack the plane, which was flying at about 31,000ft.

Two major European airlines – Lufthansa and Air France – have now halted flights over the Sinai peninsula, an area which has seen clashes between Egyptian forces and Islamic militants for years.

The Metrojet plane had taken off from Sharm el-Sheikh, a resort city popular with Russian tourists, and was bound for St Petersburg when it disappeared from radar some 23 minutes into the flight.

Data shows it was plunging 6,000ft per minute before it lost contact.

In a statement on its website, the airline said the Airbus was in good shape prior to the flight and had an experienced captain with 12,000 hours of flying experience at the helm.

However, according to Egyptian media, the pilot reported a technical failure shortly after take-off and had requested to land at a nearby airport, according to Sky's Sherine Tadros.

Rescuers have found both black boxes, which could give vital clues about what happened.

Britain's Foreign Secretary, Philip Hammond, has expressed sympathy to his Russian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov, in a telephone call.

"The British people who know and love Sharm el-Sheikh will be especially sad that what should have been a happy holiday trip has ended in such tragedy for so many families," he added.


http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/egypt-crash-pilot-was-concerned-about-plane/ar-BBmFKwH

[bots]

No system is foolproof, but for international flights, aircraft operators need to keep aircraft to a certain standard of maintenance that is verified by authorities. Internal flights are not subject to the same checks so tend to be the most dodgy.

[Northern Monkey]

No system is foolproof, but for international flights, aircraft operators need to keep aircraft to a certain standard of maintenance that is verified by authorities. Internal flights are not subject to the same checks so tend to be the most dodgy.

When i went to Egypt.The plane that got us there was a rickety old piece of crap tbh.No space,No modern tech inside.I then got one from Luxor to Cairo and it was the best plane i'd ever been on,Smooth,Auto flip down telly's,Spacious,Air con etc.That was only a one hour flight.So this is not always the case.
Must be terribly scary way to go.

[kirklancaster]

I think what makes driving less scary is that there at least seems to be an element of control. If you're in a plane and you know it's going down... ... well, there can't be much worse.

Then again, you know it's going down for a few minutes and then you die instantly. A car crash MIGHT be death on impact, but on the other hand, it might be hours stuck in a wrecked car with limbs hanging off, knowing full well that you're on the way out but suffering anyway. Some of the stories I've read from emergency services regarding car wrecks. People still talking to them asking if they're going to be OK, when the emergency crew knows that half of their body is 50 metres south and it's only the weight of what's on top of them that's stopping them from dying instantly.

Meh. Pleasant thread...

:laugh::laugh::laugh: Get outa that bookies and start writing horror. :laugh:

[lostalex]

putting "crashed" in the title makes it sound like an accident... now we know that it exploded in mid air (was destroyed before it hit the ground)....sounds like an attack of some kind to me. maybe a bomb on board or maybe a rocket from the ground.. too early to say... definitely doesn't sound like an accident if it exploded mid air though.

[bots]

its possible it was a bomb on board, but that would have been acknowledged immediately I would have thought. The terrorists on the ground don't have the capability to hit a plane at 30k feet so it wasn't that

[empire]

alot of russian pilots do not like the planes that are made in the west, because of the high maintenance, and they found new planes with cracks inside the engines, and even cracks where found on the wings,

[lostalex]

its possible it was a bomb on board, but that would have been acknowledged immediately I would have thought. The terrorists on the ground don't have the capability to hit a plane at 30k feet so it wasn't that

acknowledged by whom?

[Firewire]

It's a tragedy, really. Sounds like sabotage but we'll hopefully find out more when the black boxes are analysed.

[lostalex]

It's a tragedy, really. Sounds like sabotage but we'll hopefully find out more when the black boxes are analysed.

depends who analyzes them. do you honestly think the Russians would ever admit that they got shot down by ISiS?

They still haven't admitted that they shot down the plane over Ukraine.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/1/427455/default/v1/metro-p1-nov-2-1-442x589.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/1/427457/default/v1/mirror-1-563x750.jpg

[Cherie]

If true what does this say for airport security at Sharm

[bots]

depends who analyzes them. do you honestly think the Russians would ever admit that they got shot down by ISiS?

They still haven't admitted that they shot down the plane over Ukraine.

The Russian people have no reason to deny a bomb attack. They have been quick to acknowledge terrorist attacks in the past. The airline is not responsible for airport security.

[empire]

I knew there was something not right about that crash, there was another case back in 1985, with the same outcome, but the wreckage was at the bottom of the ocean near Ireland, but the bomb was in a suitcase, but with high tech security in todays airports, how could a bomb be brought on board, if someone working in airport maintenance could easily do that, intelligent services have their fingers all over it, why tell certain passengers not to go on this plane, sabotage could be the very thing,

[lostalex]

I knew there was something not right about that crash, there was another case back in 1985, with the same outcome, but the wreckage was at the bottom of the ocean near Ireland, but the bomb was in a suitcase, but with high tech security in todays airports, how could a bomb be brought on board, if someone working in airport maintenance could easily do that, intelligent services have their fingers all over it, why tell certain passengers not to go on this plane, sabotage could be the very thing,

the Russians and Egyptians are very close. They egyptians might be worried about scaring away tourists if they are seen to have terrorists able to shoot down plans between Russia and Egypt. i was reading an article that actually Russians are the largest number of tourists they get from any single country each year, so they will not want to be seen as a dangerous country to fly too. i think both Russia and Egypt would rather blame it on mechanical failure and put the blame on airbus, and of course russia never wants to admit that a terroistcould kill so many of it's civilians because it would make them look weak and hurt their airline business swell.

but of course it's all just speculation right now. hopefully we will get the truth, unlike with the flight shot down above Ukraine.

[arista]

If true what does this say for airport security at Sharm


Experts are saying someones bag
could have had a Bomb in it.



Because Planes do not Break into bits
before they land


They should be able to find bits of any Explosive

[kirklancaster]

Our Ports and Airports are RIDDLED with terrorist sympathisers. So it will be so in other countries.

[Cherie]

I knew there was something not right about that crash, there was another case back in 1985, with the same outcome, but the wreckage was at the bottom of the ocean near Ireland, but the bomb was in a suitcase, but with high tech security in todays airports, how could a bomb be brought on board, if someone working in airport maintenance could easily do that, intelligent services have their fingers all over it, why tell certain passengers not to go on this plane, sabotage could be the very thing,

I can't find any article that says some passengers were told not to fly, do you have a link please

[Kizzy]

Our Ports and Airports are RIDDLED with terrorist sympathisers. So it will be so in other countries.

What makes you say this, if that were so then wouldn't we have experienced more incidents of terrorism?

[bots]

They are now saying the crash was caused by external influences

[Kizzy]

My god .... ffs please say it wasn't us :/

[MTVN]

How could it have been us

[Kizzy]

I was half joking...

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/02/14/2E0A010F00000578-0-image-a-16_1446475261847.jpg


A Expert who used to fly them
just on Ch4HD News Live
said now he seen more images
he feels it was a Device in the Plane
that make it split up in air.

[arista]

They are now saying the crash was caused by external influences


Yes a bag on Board
"could" of have had a Bomb.

[Z]

Post 9/11 culture made airlines much safer in the Western world - but many planes in many parts of the world aren't so well maintained, airports aren't so secure etc... but who knows. Tragedy regardless of what happened.

[arista]

CNN Live
Breaking News confirms Heat Flash - "could" be a bomb inside the plane Mid Air


Not on any other news yet

[Northern Monkey]

My Fox News app just informed me that 'The pentagon says there is no way Russian airliner was shot down'

[arista]

My Fox News app just informed me that 'The pentagon says there is no way Russian airliner was shot down'


We all know that/


It was a Bomb inside the plane

[arista]

UK has now stopped flights to Egypt
Delayed as Security Checkers are now double checking
all flights meant to go there


And all those leaving Sharm....

[lostalex]

there is something seriously rotten in Moscow.

[arista]

Alex this was a Attack on Russian Familys on a Holiday
in Egypt. (a bomb on the plane)

Egypt has its own War
Even Isis are in there.

[arista]

Alex this was a Attack on Russian Familys on a Holiday
in Egypt. (a bomb on the plane)

Egypt has its own War
Even Isis are in there.


The leader of Egypt is in London tonight

http://news.sky.com/story/1581799/egypt-to-uk-flights-delayed-for-security-checks

[Cherie]

No point searching everyone to the nnth degree outbound if the inbound isn't as rigourous, if it was a bomb the Egyptians need to let the world know how it got there and why their security failed.

[Novo]

This will just happen more and more now that Russia have took a hard stand against terrorism, History will repeat itself no doubt though, the down fall of the Nazi was underestimating the Soviet Union and biting of more the they could chew in Stalingrad and Moscow, the downfall of Isis or whoever is responsible will be exactly the same and you will do well to remember that LostAlex, 80% of the soviets died for your freedom and Putin's Russia will do the same for you so show some bloody respect

[lostalex]

This will just happen more and more now that Russia have took a hard stand against terrorism, History will repeat itself no doubt though, the down fall of the Nazi was underestimating the Soviet Union and biting of more the they could chew in Stalingrad and Moscow, the downfall of Isis or whoever is responsible will be exactly the same and you will do well to remember that LostAlex, 80% of the soviets died for your freedom and Putin's Russia will do the same for you so show some bloody respect

WRONG. 80% of the soviets died trying to conquer Europe, and they conquered most of eastern Europe, the only reason western Europe wasn't completely conquered by the Soviets was because of the USA.

The Soviets never freed anyone from the Nazis, they were stealing more land for themselves the whole time.

[bots]

WRONG. 80% of the soviets died trying to conquer Europe, and they conquered most of eastern Europe, the only reason western Europe wasn't completely conquered by the Soviets was because of the USA.

The Soviets never freed anyone from the Nazis, they were stealing more land for themselves the whole time.

What a warped view of history. The USA as I recall only entered the war after they got hit at Pearl harbour. More Russian lives were lost in WW2 than of any other country. They died fighting as the Nazi's were rolling their war machine in to Moscow.

[lostalex]

What a warped view of history. The USA as I recall only entered the war after they got hit at Pearl harbour. More Russian lives were lost in WW2 than of any other country. They died fighting as the Nazi's were rolling their war machine in to Moscow.

Yea, and they only started fighting the Nazi;s when they got attack too! so how can you blame the USA for not getting involved earlier when nighter did the Soviets.. you are sounding like such a hypocrite right now.

And unlike the Soviets, after the USA freed a european country we let them govern themselves, unlike the Soviets which just ate up countries and forced them to be soviet states.

[arista]

This will just happen more and more now that Russia have took a hard stand against terrorism, History will repeat itself no doubt though, the down fall of the Nazi was underestimating the Soviet Union and biting of more the they could chew in Stalingrad and Moscow, the downfall of Isis or whoever is responsible will be exactly the same and you will do well to remember that LostAlex, 80% of the soviets died for your freedom and Putin's Russia will do the same for you so show some bloody respect

Bang On Right Novo

[arista]

A Arab expert said it was a bomb
done by Isis

Ref : Live Ch4HD news

[Kizzy]

The Egyptian president is coming here... Why is he coming here?

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Hundreds of protesters have gathered in Whitehall to express anger at David Cameron’s decision to welcome the Egyptian president, Abdel Fatah al-Sisi, to Downing Street.

Sisi is due to arrive in the UK to hold talks with the British prime minister on security cooperation at Number 10 on Thursday, despite being accused of a catalogue of human rights abuses since leading an army coup in July 2013.

At a noisy protest in Whitehall, a crowd consisting mainly of Egyptian emigrants – some who had travelled from as far away as Spain – expressed their anger at the invitation to the former army chief.

Maha Azzam, head of the Egyptian Revolutionary Council, told the crowd: “What we have here is a big no to Sisi and prime minister Cameron for his invitation to a despot and a killer. We stand here today to say ‘Shame on you Cameron’. Not in the name of the honourable British people. Not in the name of the Egyptian people ...

“He [Sisi] has no legitimacy in the eyes of the British people. The free Egyptian people reject Sisi ... The message is loud and clear, no to fascism, no to military dictatorship.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/04/hundreds-protest-at-david-camerons-welcome-of-egyptian-president

[bots]

We need people that we can work with in that area of the world. We may not like how they behave, but its just one aspect. We should have learned that in Iraq and Libya

[arista]

"Why is he coming here?"


To buy Even More Arms
to help them protect their Tourism.

[lostalex]

The point is, this jet CVOULD have made it all the way to Russia, and blown up in the airport and caused even more damage. killed not only everyone on board, but also everyone at the boarding gate, and also destroyed the entire gate of the airport. But of course Russians will never admit that they have any security vulnerabilities. Russians of course are too strong and perfect for anything thing like that to be possible. LOL

[bots]

The point is, this jet CVOULD have made it all the way to Russia, and blown up in the airport and caused even more damage. killed not only everyone on board, but also everyone at the boarding gate, and also destroyed the entire gate of the airport. But of course Russians will never admit that they have any security vulnerabilities. Russians of course are too strong and perfect for anything thing like that to be possible. LOL

This is a thread about the very sad fact that more than 200 RUSSIAN people lost their lives, which now looks like it was by terrorist act. It is difficult to see how that can be turned in to Russian hate, but here we are. Ridiculous

[Cherie]

The point is, this jet CVOULD have made it all the way to Russia, and blown up in the airport and caused even more damage. killed not only everyone on board, but also everyone at the boarding gate, and also destroyed the entire gate of the airport. But of course Russians will never admit that they have any security vulnerabilities. Russians of course are too strong and perfect for anything thing like that to be possible. LOL

The breach of security was at Sharm, I don't know why you are lolling, if this were a plane load of Americans you wouldn't be blaming America for this, innocents returning from a beach holiday who didn't deserve to die no matter what nationality they were.

[Nedusa]

The point is, this jet CVOULD have made it all the way to Russia, and blown up in the airport and caused even more damage. killed not only everyone on board, but also everyone at the boarding gate, and also destroyed the entire gate of the airport. But of course Russians will never admit that they have any security vulnerabilities. Russians of course are too strong and perfect for anything thing like that to be possible. LOL

Next time a plane full of Americans crashes for whatever reason, I will come on here and start saying how much they deserved it because America is an evil,corrput wicked regime.....

Your comments re this tragedy show no remorse for the poor innocent people who lost their lives, you prefer instead to score cheap political points about Russia etc...

This is still a human tragedy regardless of what nationality these people were.

[Cherie]

Kudos to our government who have taken the step of suspending flights to and from Sharm, pain in the ass for anyone out there who is ready to come home but from reports I heard this morning their airport security and checking leaves a ot to be required. A guy was interviewed this morning who goes out there regularly diving who said dive knives have been allowed in hand luggage, and it is quite common for litre bottles of spirits to be let through on hand luggage, the only question is why it has taken so long for the terrorists to take advantage of this laxness and someone else who said it was quite easy for someone to go around the queue and walk straight into departures.

[Kizzy]

I'm a nervous passenger at the best of times, will be some dicky tummies on those first few flights out :/

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/5/428265/default/v1/cegrab-20151105-130049-211-1-736x414.jpg
Egypt's Al Sisi Meets PM At Downing Street

http://news.sky.com/story/1582302/egypts-al-sisi-meets-pm-at-downing-street

[Kizzy]

Was it a mistake or a coincidence it happened in sharm then, or does it have some significance?

[Cherie]

Lufthansa have now followed suit suspending travel

[arista]

Lufthansa have now followed suit suspending travel


Secret Information on another bomb
must be at the root of this.

At that Airport all are searched now going in,
so they are now with us

A bomb on a plane is a small bag of sugar in size.

Its True Isis have never done this before,
So what
Now the Russian Jet was a Evil Winner for Isis
its all change

[arista]

Was it a mistake or a coincidence it happened in sharm then, or does it have some significance?


He was booked weeks
back.

[Kizzy]

If they're annoyed at Putin for bombing I bet they're just as annoyed at us... I think they have more than a suspicion we're the next target.

[Kizzy]

He was booked weeks
back.

I don't mean his visit I mean was the bomb going off in sharm a mistake? If Russians have been said to be the target then why was it not detonated there... not that it should have, it just seems an odd place.

[Cherie]

I don't mean his visit I mean was the bomb going off in sharm a mistake? If Russians have been said to be the target then why was it not detonated there... not that it should have, it just seems an odd place.

I doubt it was a mistake, it might have detonated early though. They obviously made it easy for them at Sharm, its win win for the terrorists a plane load of Russians killed, point made, and Egyptian tourism in disarray just like Tunisia.

[Cherie]

Passengers may be flown back without their luggage which would follow on at a later date

[empire]

it seems that ww3 is more of a reality now, than was two years ago, putin threatens to use nukes on isis, if the syrian leader agrees, he could use them in the sinai if Sisi let russian jets into his country, egypt is moving away from american influence,

[Kizzy]

Nobody say the N word!..... :(

[arista]

Yes passengers Fly back Tomorrow

[empire]

the funny thing is that, the battlefield game franchise has just predicted the ww3 scenario in the last five years, a few years ago in china the gang of 4 tried to stage a coup to over throw the leader of china, in iran the same thing happend with cia help, but both failed,

[Kizzy]

10 easyjet flights were due to leave... only 2 are.

EasyJet has put out yet another statement, which also lists which of its scheduled ten flights for today will fly from Sharm el-Sheikh, and which will not:

Two flights will be departing from Sharm el Sheikh shortly which are as follows:

EZY9398 Sharm el Sheikh to London Luton

EZY9854 Sharm el Sheikh to London Gatwick

This means that we will get 339 passengers home today. Unfortunately the following flights which will no longer operate today are as follows:

EZY9555 Sharm el Sheikh to London Luton

EZY9444 Sharm el Sheikh to London Gatwick

EZY9333 - Sharm el Sheikh to London Luton

EZY9111 - Sharm el Sheikh to London Gatwick

EZY9222 - Sharm el Sheikh to Milan Malpensa

EZY9666 - Sharm el Sheikh to London Stansted

EZY2398 Sharm el Sheikh to London Luton

EZY8854 Sharm el Sheikh to London Gatwick

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/06/tourists-return-from-egypt-amid-reports-bomb-in-hold-downed-russian-airliner-live-updates

[Kazanne]

KLM also only allowing hand luggage on flights to Cairo,I must admit some passengers are pissing me off moaning about not getting back when they want,do they not realise this is for their safety? there must be something going on preventing air travel.

[arista]

Yes Easy Jet
are halted.

There is a Possible Bomb on a UK Plane


But the People in the Hot Sun Moaning (On Live TV)
are saying they want to fly now.
They seem to be happy to fly.
No Care about a Bomb?

[Kizzy]

Of course they care but the stress must be unbearable, they'll just want to be back home to normality :(

[Kazanne]

Of course they care but the stress must be unbearable, they'll just want to be back home to normality :(

Rather the stress Kizzy than being blown up and never getting home.

[Cherie]

I can see both sides, I would hate being stuck, when I am ready to come home I am ready and I would be very twitchy by now, people might be running out of money as well people who travelled independently so have no tour operator to turn to for advice, on the other hand I'd like to come home in one piece! It's at moments like this travel insurance is a life saver.

[Kizzy]

Rather the stress Kizzy than being blown up and never getting home.

I know, catch 22 I can't imagine it! talk about nightmare scenario :/

[Kizzy]

I can see both sides, I would hate being stuck, when I am ready to come home I am ready and I would be very twitchy by now, people might be running out of money as well people who travelled independently so have no tour operator to turn to for advice, on the other hand I'd like to come home in one piece! It's at moments like this travel insurance is a life saver.

Yep and I bet they're all off to Blackpool next year!

[Cherie]

Yep and I bet they're all off to Blackpool next year!

The way things are going we will all be staycationing as all countries will carry a travel advisory.

[arista]

Now Russia has Halted all Flights

[arista]

[Russian Jet Was Blown Up By 'Bomb In The Hold'
New evidence emerges in intercepts
picked up by UK spies as thousands
of stranded tourists prepare to fly home from Egypt.]


http://news.sky.com/story/1582643/russian-jet-was-blown-up-by-bomb-in-the-hold

[Northern Monkey]

Well i can think of worse places to be stranded.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/6/428601/default/v2/i-1-563x750.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/6/428608/default/v2/guard-1-563x750.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/6/428596/default/v2/times-1-563x750.jpg

[Ninastar]

scary times that we live in.

[Jordan.]

One of my mums friends is stuck there and she's been moved to a 5* hotel whilst she waits to get back, obviously she's hating it

[Kizzy]

'Apparently on 23 August a Thomson jet had a near miss with a missile within a 1,000 feet of it near Sharm el Sheik. Today we know about it!'

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/07/sharm-el-sheikh-uk-tourists-voice-anger-over-missile-near-miss-live-updates#block-563df201e4b09da63347fd1c

[Crimson Dynamo]

I remember when Gamepod said he was going to Egypt and I said I dont know whey anyone would risk going to there..

[Crimson Dynamo]

Confirmed

It was a terrorist bomb that downed aircraft

source: all news agencies

[arista]

Russia Admits Egypt Crash Caused By Bomb

http://news.sky.com/story/1588988/russia-confirms-egypt-crash-caused-by-bomb


Yes Isis have bombs on planes
as well
why would the Evil Terrorists , not?

[arista]

Confirmed

It was a terrorist bomb that downed aircraft

source: all news agencies



Yes perfect Entry
a Sloppy Airport , sadly

[Kazanne]

I remember when Gamepod said he was going to Egypt and I said I dont know whey anyone would risk going to there..

We've been to Sharm el Sheik a few years ago LT and we said even then we would never go back,frankly it was a ****hole,the only thing fabulous about Egypt is the history and Pyramids etc,but I'de never crave to go there again even moreso now.

[Josy]

Mr Putin vowed to "find and punish" those responsible for the attack over the Sinai peninsula. An Islamic State affiliate has claimed the attack.

Nearly all the dead were Russians.


On the BBC news

[DemolitionRed]

In 2008 we got stuck in a five star hotel near the airport after holidaying in Sharm el-Sheikh. We weren't permitted to use the hotel facilities and were treated by the hotel staff like untouchables. We weren't allowed in the swimming pool and although it was all inclusive we weren't allowed to dine with the regular guests. That was a grim two days and a bad end to an already awful holiday.

I've lived in Iran but felt much less safe in Sharm el-Sheikh. We were warned not to venture off the holiday complex. They had armed guards at the gate, not to stop people coming in but to stop tourists wandering out and when we did get out to visit Valley of the Kings, we had to go in a congo with a dozen other vehicles for our own safety. When we arrived back it was dark so we drove slowly through the desert with the headlights off and when got stopped at two checkpoints, plain clothed men carrying kalashnikov got on the coach and abruptly demanded to see our passports.

We went during peaceful times so imagine what its like now.

[Kizzy]

This might sound awful but it is something that unifies Europe and Russia at the moment.... Maybe something good can come out of something horrible if we are able to forge a better relationship with Putin?

[arista]

This might sound awful but it is something that unifies Europe and Russia at the moment.... Maybe something good can come out of something horrible if we are able to forge a better relationship with Putin?


Yes many say how Stalin was part of
United Troops to kill Hitler


Its that kind of way United Against Isis

[Kizzy]

An enemy of my enemy is my friend kinda thing?

[arista]

Russia Offers £33Million Reward Over Jet Bombing

http://news.sky.com/story/1588988/russia-offers-33m-reward-over-jet-bombing

Grass them up
Russia will kill them

[lostalex]

ummm, DUHHHH.

as usual, the russians show up a day late and a dollar short.