Paris Terrorist Shootings

[LukeB]

i just had a facebook notification of my friend who lives in paris being marked safe

[Headie]

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Taxis are giving people free fares home too.

[Ross.]

American airlines apparently will not be flying to Paris until further notice

Update: It's just one now I believe

[Samm]

Jesus at all of this :(, Feel so bad for all the people that lost there lives and to think they had it in January as well. People need to stop complaining about the data protection thing now I am willing to let the government view my search history and data 100% I've got nothing to hide and it's for the safety of the country as well.

[Denver]

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[Samm]

I've been totally against going to war but I think now it's the only possible option as these attacks are getting bigger.

No war is not the answer, it'll just bring even more chaos.

[Ross.]

Belgium are now strictly checking all new arrivals from France by plane/train

[Denver]

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One of the worst days in history.

[Lostie!]

So close to the Christmas buildup too. I'll be making an effort to think twice before moaning about trivial things this festive season. </3

[Denver]

No war is not the answer, it'll just bring even more chaos.

But if we wait for them to attack it will get worse I just don't honestly know where the world is going to go.

[Samm]

But if we wait for them to attack it will get worse I just don't honestly know where the world is going to go.

But if we start a war that will be much worse, what is happening now is fine and it's working with the bombing stuff from what I've heard, the security is the main issue. This is going to make the migrant crisis much worse also and if it is evidence that the terrorist some how got in through that then that will have to have extra security put into it.

[Denver]

But if we start a war that will be much worse, what is happening now is fine and it's working with the bombing stuff from what I've heard, the security is the main issue. This is going to make the migrant crisis much worse also and if it is evidence that the terrorist some how got in through that then that will have to have extra security put into it.

I just hope that the world leader all come together again and sort out the perfect plan on how to resolve this.

Social media also need to do something to stop the terrorists getting messages across.

[Drew.]

But if we start a war that will be much worse, what is happening now is fine and it's working with the bombing stuff from what I've heard, the security is the main issue. This is going to make the migrant crisis much worse also and if it is evidence that the terrorist some how got in through that then that will have to have extra security put into it.

It's far from fine really. Terrorists are completely out of control and a few successful bombings on them are far from solving it. And i don't think migrants are to blame, they are the ones coming over here trying to leave a world like this behind

[T*]

What is going on tonight?!
The worlds gone mad- this is terrifying

[Denver]

It's far from fine really. Terrorists are completely out of control and a few successful bombings on them are far from solving it. And i don't think migrants are to blame, they are the ones coming over here trying to leave a world like this behind

There is a strong possibility terrorist are disguising themselves as migrants to get in the countries and its hard to single them out without any proof.

[Northern Monkey]

This is fecking big.This **** could happen anywhere at any time.These ***** need wiping out.EU borders need to be much much tighter.These terrorists will more than likely wait now until western countries have their guard down before they attack again.RIP to all these people.

[T*]

Is this linked to this mornings jihadi John thing?

[Denver]

Is this linked to this mornings jihadi John thing?

I don't know but Lebanon was also hit.

[Samm]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTuultzU8AAZp2i.jpg

http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2015_02/843721/150111-empirestatebuilding2_aa1e9b708409db6c4721c433cdb55 841.nbcnews-fp-1200-800.jpg

:sad:

[Scarlett.]

Why does this keep happening to France? :(

[Denver]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6741733/German-football-stars-flee-their-hotel-after-bomb-scare.html

There was a bomb threat in Paris this morning.

[Brother Leon]

I don't know but Lebanon was also hit.

That was more an ISIS message to Hezbollah considering the "damage" they have caused them by interfering in Syria. No idea the intention for this....

[Denver]

The scariest thing is there could still be some of the attackers on the loose

[Shaun]

Not that it's really 'good' news but the band performing seem to have escaped:

Michael Dorio, brother of Eagles of Death Metal's touring drummer Julian Dorio, called in to CNN on Friday night to relay the information his brother told him regarding the terrorist shooting at the band's Le Bataclan concert that claimed 118 lives on Nov. 13.

"He called and told me everything was okay and that he had been performing and heard the gunshots. The whole band heard the gunshots and went backstage and exited as fast as they could.

"He said they did see gunmen but didn’t stick around. They saw first, heard second and immediately bolted backward to the backstage area," Dorio told CNN.

After heading backstage, the band immediately left Le Bataclan. They later provided an update on their Facebook page: “We are still currently trying to determine the safety and whereabouts of all our band and crew. Our thoughts are with all of the people involved in this tragic situation.”

After police raided Le Bataclan, at least 118 people were killed at the 1500-capacity venue, which was full at the time of the incident. According to L.A. Times, two members of the band's crew are still unaccounted for.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6762462/paris-eagles-of-death-metal-drummer-brother-bataclan-shooting

[T*]

Imagine almost being in that situation and surviving it though. Crazy.

[Ninastar]

BBC news saying that all terrorists are believed to be dead

[Brother Leon]

Cousins have reached home at last. I can rest easy now I guess.

[Denver]

There's something very off about this attack, I've never heard of Isis taking hostages before in an attack unless it's on their soil. I'm no expert but from what i know they usually go in and brutally execute everyone they can.

The grenades are a strange one too, don't they usually use homemade stuff?

It's probably Isis but I've got the weirdest feeling that this may be something else.
It could be Al-Qaeda

[Denver]

Cousins have reached home at last. I can rest easy now I guess.

I'm glad there ok

[Denver]

French President said they know who did it. Omg if this was Isis things are about to get worse.

Every time there is a terrorist attack it doesn't mean its from ISIS there are loads of different terrorist organisations.

[Mitchell]

Adam, I appreciate you are trying to make sense of it all but please stop acting like you know what's gonna happen next, who will be attacked etc. It's quite distressing and a bit distasteful considering there are lots of people right now who don't even know if they are going to make it out alive tonight or not :(

This.

RIP to those murder victims :(

[empire]

the rivers of blood speech, has alot of truth to it, every country in europe will not just put troops on their borders, but in every town and city, just like when we sent troops to N.Ireland, martial law looks set to happen in the eu, every right wing party have sealed their mark, N.farage even said before this had happened that the eu open door policy would cause this, but nobody would listen to him, and look what happened their, even viktor orban was called a fascist for telling the world what would happen, I said months ago on this forum that there would be a clash of civilizations, with cities divided into ghettos of race and religion, and this is the first drop of blood to a civil war in europe,

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/14/02/article-3317776-2E6D861900000578-894_964x538.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/13/23/2E6CE23100000578-3317776-image-a-1_1447455748434.jpg

[Shaun]

anyway

[arista]

The Concert Hall had a USA Rock Band


http://news.sky.com/story/1587380/live-france-declares-state-of-emergency


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3317776/Paris-attack-sees-150-dead-Eagles-Death-Metal-concert-hostages-killed.html

[arista]

Every time there is a terrorist attack it doesn't mean its from ISIS there are loads of different terrorist organisations.


But they Shouted For Syria?
before setting off their Bomb Belts


http://media.fyre.co/e3AOxSMkTnq9lZ967tfB_CTvZcPdW4AATnaq.png

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/14/429767/default/v1/tele-2-1-563x750.jpg

[France is at war on home soil, with up to 60 people reported to have
been killed in six terrorist attacks in Paris involving Kalashnikovs and grenade attacks, and a mass hostage drama, reports the Telegraph]


Flights are halted.


This is a Big Attack sadly France has a 9/11.


These were easy Targets
and not many metal detectors
Pre - Planned

[arista]

They will all be young, brainwashed males...


Sadly True

[arista]

Welp the French police have "launched an assault" on the theatre



Yes and from France24 News English
before the Police Got in
they were shooting them one by one.


USA Rock band was playing

[Locke.]

You don't expect this kind of thing to happen at all but for it to have happened to a place that were already on high alert just shows that nowhere is safe.

We've all jumped to a conclusion on who they are already but they still haven't identified who the shooters were working for (and the number of them has now been extended from 5 to 8), so hopefully they confirm that at some point today so we have some kind of idea about why this happened.

[Ammi]

..there are so many different reports of the number of dead, it's just shattering and still hard to absorb, to see places/streets that you've walked down as scenes of such slaughter/unreal...and while we're all thinking things like..Friday 13th/all of those silly unlucky things ..and this...it's hard to have words for any of it...all I can think of this morning is not only those who dies and their families/friends, but those who survived and the images inside their heads...

[Locke.]

Some guy on Sky News showing his Samsung Galaxy that has a bullet hole in it.. Looks like the phone saved his life

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[Ammi]

..it's amazing how these 'fluke' things happen..once reality kicks in, so many people are going to need so much care and counselling with this.../I'm glad he's safe...

[Denver]

8 attackers dead, 7 by there own suicide vest so it looks like they were all suicide bombers and went there prepared to die themselves.

[the truth]

It's far from fine really. Terrorists are completely out of control and a few successful bombings on them are far from solving it. And i don't think migrants are to blame, they are the ones coming over here trying to leave a world like this behind

some are but some aren't.....we need to go to the camps to bring out the most needy. we HAVE GOT to close our open borders, an insane idea. mrkel should resign NOW

[Ryan57]

Okay, so this is scary...

Something really, really weird has been discovered by a Reddit member.

The following was posted on a French forum last year:

http://i.imgur.com/SJCYOH9.png

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-50-171272235-1-0-1-0-attentats-le-13-novembre.htm&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=5HNGVvryOoTyaOKZo7AP

He didn't state what year, however the thread was mysteriously bumped a week before the attacks with the following posted from a different account:

'Post before bombing with Kalash'

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-50-171272235-4-0-1-0-attentats-le-13-novembre.htm&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=5HNGVvryOoTyaOKZo7AP

This thread has now been deleted since the attacks.

The user, 'Encore1Ben' also has a profile picture of the journalist who was shot back in August in the States which is weird.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/26/us/virginia-shooting-wdbj/

Then this was found: http://redsky.fr/jvstalker/#forum-50/pseudo-Encore1Ban/page-1/type-tms/

One post is:

- Denmark
- UK
- Netherlands
- Belgium
- France
- USA
It's almost over for them

With laughing emoticons added.

:umm2:

[Nedusa]

the rivers of blood speech, has alot of truth to it, every country in europe will not just put troops on their borders, but in every town and city, just like when we sent troops to N.Ireland, martial law looks set to happen in the eu, every right wing party have sealed their mark, N.farage even said before this had happened that the eu open door policy would cause this, but nobody would listen to him, and look what happened their, even viktor orban was called a fascist for telling the world what would happen, I said months ago on this forum that there would be a clash of civilizations, with cities divided into ghettos of race and religion, and this is the first drop of blood to a civil war in europe,

Totally agree, being saying this for Months if not years now on this forum only to be met with withering derision and scathing replies..

Well I don't know how much more people need to see before they finally wake up to this utter insanity..

With reportedly over 160 dead yes 160 innocent people enjoying their night out brutally executed by scumsucking evil vermin high on the drug of death and torture. Many of the dead were French police and security blown to pieces by the attackers who turned themselves into human bombs when the security services approached.

I mean they actually strapped 2 lbs Semtex to their bodies and then pulled the trigger... Who the **** would actually do that ?

These people are utterly brainwashed and are willing to commit the most evil atrocities imaginable on innocent people.

So the next time you are out in the centre of London or Manchester and you hear a massive explosion and watch your legs disappearing into the distance you might finally accept that you YES you are their target , so please stop and think now this is real it is really happening now.

Deranged Islamic psychopaths are plotting and planning to come to a city near you and cause utter carnage..

So the next time I post on here praising UKIP for wanting to control immigration and stop this apparent migrant influx of mostly fit young African men people will not be so dammed quick to rubbish my comments....

[Ryan57]

A possible picture of one of those responsible:

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/46/1447483548-img-20151114-074427.jpg

'When you see this photograph on BFM, it will be too late'

BFM is a French news station.

This person then said it was all a joke on Twitter... then the tragedy occurred.

Then this: https://twitter.com/_Jacky_Boy_/status/665302175044775936

After the attacks he posted a video of him laughing with the caption 'What I have to say?'

[kirklancaster]

Not that it's really 'good' news but the band performing seem to have escaped:



http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6762462/paris-eagles-of-death-metal-drummer-brother-bataclan-shooting

Any life spared is good news Shaun. Thanks for this.

[Ashley.]

This is awful! It makes me so angry I can't even put it into words!

My thoughts go out to Paris and all its citizens, the lives that have been lost and their respective families. This MUST end :bawling:

anyway

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[Livia]

Devastating news.

I heard that people were told to lay on the floor and then machine gunned, the terrorists stopping to reload half way through.

A couple of weeks ago in a post I said that we lived in dangerous times. A couple of people ridiculed this idea and said that we do not live in dangerous times... it's scaremongering by the government. Any updates on those thoughts today, I wonder?

[Kazanne]

I've woken up to this news this morning,what can you say ? some of the human race are totally effed up scum .

[Kizzy]

I hope Paris receives worldwide support , watched the news till about 4am.... stunned

[Locke.]

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[Livia]

I've woken up to this news this morning,what can you say ? some of the human race are totally effed up scum .

I am so glad that Paris is getting support from all around the world, people laying flowers at French Embassies in a show of solidarity and public buildings all over the world being lit in the colours of the French flag. Also, this story was breaking news when I started watching the news last night, and before the end of the bulletin, Obama had already spoken pledging America's allegiance.

[Kizzy]

The French president, François Hollande, has blamed Islamic State for a wave of coordinated gun attacks and suicide bombings that killed more than 120 people and seriously wounded almost 100 at a series of venues across Paris.

He described the deadliest terrorist attack on Europe since the 2004 train bombings in Madrid as a “cowardly act” and an “act of war”, adding that France would defend itself.

Six sites in the French capital were targeted on Friday evening; gunmen opened fire at a rock concert and on customers in restaurants, and a series of bombs were detonated near the Stade de France, where the national football team was playing Germany in an international friendly.

At least eight attackers are dead, seven of them in suicide bombings. Witnesses to one shooting said police had told them at least one attacker was still at large. No one has yet claimed responsibility for the killings, but Islamic State reportedly released an undated video on Saturday in which it threatened to attack France if it continued to bomb Syria.

The group’s foreign media arm, al-Hayat Media Centre, released footage of a militant who called on French Muslims to carry out attacks, Reuters said. “As long as you keep bombing you will not live in peace. You will even fear traveling to the market,” the figure said in Arabic, flanked by other fighters.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/13/paris-attacks-shootings-explosions-hostages

[Ashley.]

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Yep. They have taken full responsibility and seem to be quite proud of what they have done. Twats.

[Livia]

Whenever a terrorist attack takes place all sort of people claim responsibility. I think though that we all knew who is responsible.

[Vanessa]

Not a coincidence that the President was there. They knew this. I'm still in shock after watching the news last night and I didn't sleep a wink. :sad:

[Vanessa]

Devastating news.

I heard that people were told to lay on the floor and then machine gunned, the terrorists stopping to reload half way through.

A couple of weeks ago in a post I said that we lived in dangerous times. A couple of people ridiculed this idea and said that we do not live in dangerous times... it's scaremongering by the government. Any updates on those thoughts today, I wonder?

:sad:

[Nedusa]

Devastating news.

I heard that people were told to lay on the floor and then machine gunned, the terrorists stopping to reload half way through.

A couple of weeks ago in a post I said that we lived in dangerous times. A couple of people ridiculed this idea and said that we do not live in dangerous times... it's scaremongering by the government. Any updates on those thoughts today, I wonder?

Agree Livia, I just wonder how bad it will actually have to get before the elephant in the room becomes visible.....

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=86c_1447486084

pretty shocking vid of people escaping from that concert, look at the poor guy hanging like 20 feet up and not much hope of help (dont obvs look if it will upset you)

[Livia]

Agree Livia, I just wonder how bad it will actually have to get before the elephant in the room becomes visible.....

Please God it'll be visible before many more people die.

[arista]

UK Radio 5 is staying on this Paris attack all day (this is new)
putting the sport onto Radio 5 extra.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/5live

[Kizzy]

Connor Gillies @ConnorGillies
BREAKING: #Gatwick #airport evacuated. Emergency services on high alert. Heightened security after #ParisAttacks.
10:21 AM - 14 Nov 2015 · United Kingdom, United Kingdom


The Islamic State claim responsibility for the Paris attacks

In an official statement, the group said France is the “top target” of the group.

It says it carefully studied the locations for the attacks, which were carried out by fighters wearing suicide belts and carrying machine guns.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/14/paris-terror-attacks-attackers-dead-mass-killing-live-updates

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Hopefully this is just a false alarm due to everywhere being on such high alert. If not, then these attacks just got scarily close to home...

[Will.]

Wait has something happened there?

[arista]

[Hollande says ISIS are behind 'act of war' claiming 127 lives: Fans flee concert and drag
away the dead as gunmen blow themselves up then terrorist opens fire in restaurant and bombers hit stadium]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3317776/Paris-attack-sees-150-dead-Eagles-Death-Metal-concert-hostages-killed.html#ixzz3rSm2MuOO


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/14/09/article-3317776-2E6F6FF000000578-871_964x482.jpg

[Will.]

BREAKING: Gatwick evacuated after suspicious item found and man with a gun.

[Kizzy]

'The statement from Islamic State goes on to call the attacks a response to insults directed at the Prophet Mohammed, as well as airstrikes by France on Islamic State-held territory.'

Airstrikes have made France a direct target, could that be applied to us too? Who knows, if it is we have Cameron to thank for his impetuosity.

[Will.]

BREAKING: Gatwick evacuated after suspicious item found and man with a gun/grenade.

[Northern Monkey]

'The statement from Islamic State goes on to call the attacks a response to insults directed at the Prophet Mohammed, as well as airstrikes by France on Islamic State-held territory.'

Airstrikes have made France a direct target, could that be applied to us too? Who knows, if it is we have Cameron to thank for his impetuosity.

Yeah lets just blame Cameron.No responsibility for the murderous terrorists who are doing this.It's all Hollande and Camerons fault.

[Livia]

'The statement from Islamic State goes on to call the attacks a response to insults directed at the Prophet Mohammed, as well as airstrikes by France on Islamic State-held territory.'

Airstrikes have made France a direct target, could that be applied to us too? Who knows, if it is we have Cameron to thank for his impetuosity.

So we should sit on our hands and let IS grow and grow and spread? Great plan.

If a terrorist attack happens in this country, and sadly there's every reason to believe one will, we will have Islamic terrorists to thank. Trying to blame Cameron is ridiculous and opportunistic, but not entirely unexpected.

Anyway, you were one of those who, a couple of weeks ago, denied we were living in dangerous times and said that it's just scaremongering by the government. Nothing more to say on that right now? I noticed you ignored it when I said it earlier.

[lewis111]

I hope this Gatwick thing isn't connected, but speaking hypothetically if it was it shows how quick our police can react

[Livia]

I hope this Gatwick thing isn't connected, but speaking hypothetically if it was it shows how quick our police can react

I hope it comes to nothing. Of course, it's the Lord Mayor's Parade in London this morning... I hope that goes off without incident, so many people there...

[Will.]

Yeah, everyone is on high alert, the public are scared.

My mum has giving me lecture this morning on how I must be very careful going to the West End - my dad works there and that's only time I see him.

[arista]

Yeah, everyone is on high alert, the public are scared.

My mum has giving me lecture this morning on how I must be very careful going to the West End - my dad works there and that's only time I see him.


Nothing wrong with that

[Will.]

Nothing wrong with that

nope, there isn't.

[Kizzy]

Yeah lets just blame Cameron.No responsibility for the murderous terrorists who are doing this.It's all Hollande and Camerons fault.

They aren't my words that is the view of the terrorists, they are suggesting airstrikes are the reason for the attacks.
If France is a target for their action then we may be too is all I said.
I do think that Camerons actions were rash, he has scaled back on so many frontline services that any terrorist activity here could be catastrophic.

[Livia]

They aren't my words that is the view of the terrorists, they are suggesting airstrikes are the reason for the attacks.
If France is a target for their action then we may be too is all I said.
I do think that Camerons actions were rash, he has scaled back on so many frontline services that any terrorist activity here could be catastrophic.

You're mistaking reasons for excuses.

[arista]

Yes France Bombs Isis from the Air
in Syria and Iraq

[Northern Monkey]

They aren't my words that is the view of the terrorists, they are suggesting airstrikes are the reason for the attacks.
If France is a target for their action then we may be too is all I said.
I do think that Camerons actions were rash, he has scaled back on so many frontline services that any terrorist activity here could be catastrophic.

That more than likely is the views of the terrorists but it does'nt mean we should bow down to them.We either face them head on or just lay down and die.

[Kizzy]

That more than likely is the views of the terrorists but it does'nt mean we should bow down to them.We either face them head on or just lay down and die.

I'm not suggesting we bow to them, the damage is done now, maybe our arm was forced and it was the only solution to the issue in Syria.
That does not mean that I think we are equip to deal with a terrorist attack in the UK currently.

[Cherie]

RIP to the innocent dead.

[Denver]

BREAKING: Gatwick evacuated after suspicious item found and man with a gun/grenade.

I think this is a 'plant' I don't expect them to attack another major city the day after.

[lewis111]

It was just 1 of three large terrorist attacks yesterday, what a horrible place the world has become

[Denver]

It was just 1 of three large terrorist attacks yesterday, what a horrible place the world has become

Unfortunately unless all the world leaders step up there game it will get even worse.

I'm sure France will be ready to attack now but they will not be allowed.

[Northern Monkey]

I'm not suggesting we bow to them, the damage is done now, maybe our arm was forced and it was the only solution to the issue in Syria.
That does not mean that I think we are equip to deal with a terrorist attack in the UK currently.

We can only hope that we are.MI5 have apparently stopped many attacks in recent years.
I think if there's one thing in this country at the moment that is not being taken lightly it's security.We also have the SAS(the best in the world).Hopefully we are equipped to deal with it.The French did'nt do a bad job in the Charlie Hebdo attack.I saw a documentary on it recently and they handled it very well.I think we could do the same.
Some attacks just can't be predicted by anyone.

I also think we would still be a target even if we were'nt bombing ISIS in Iraq.

[Kizzy]

We can only hope that we are.MI5 have apparently stopped many attacks in recent years.
I think if there's one thing in this country at the moment that is not being taken lightly it's security.We also have the SAS(the best in the world).Hopefully we are equipped to deal with it.The French did'nt do a bad job in the Charlie Hebdo attack.I saw a documentary on it recently and they handled it very well.I think we could do the same.
Some attacks just can't be predicted by anyone.

I also think we would still be a target even if we were'nt bombing ISIS in Iraq.

MI5 and the SAS are specialist forces, and however good they are it will be the police, fire, ambulance and hospital staff dealing with any emergency preparedness as per civil contingency guidelines.
Do they have the resources?

[Denver]

Just seen that loads of French people are lining up too give blood just incase the hospitals run out while saving the injured, so beautiful how they all coming together. :love:

[Northern Monkey]

MI5 and the SAS are specialist forces, and however good they are it will be the police, fire, ambulance and hospital staff dealing with any emergency preparedness as per civil contingency guidelines.
Do they have the resources?

You know as much as me(or maybe more).Hopefully.I can fully blame Cameron for the Tory cuts.Not for the actions of ISIS though.Cameron cutting services does'nt mean we should just ignore terrorism.

[Kizzy]

You know as much as me(or maybe more).Hopefully.I can fully blame Cameron for the Tory cuts.Not for the actions of ISIS though.Cameron cutting services does'nt mean we should just ignore terrorism.

I haven't suggested we ignore it yet the messages he sends are for me contradictory, he suggests that we're at risk of attack... and then scales back frontline services, it makes no sense.
The bombing campaign has I think been seen as extreme provocation, as said I don't know what the alternatives were, we can only hope we are capable of an adequate response to any threat.

[DemolitionRed]

First and foremost I send my thoughts to Every person who has been affected by this despicable act.


MI5 and the SAS are specialist forces, and however good they are it will be the police, fire, ambulance and hospital staff dealing with any emergency preparedness as per civil contingency guidelines.
Do they have the resources?

I agree. Scotland Yard have repeatedly spoken about its concerns over national security and public safety because of budgetary cuts.

The fire service is in an even worse state. Ten fire stations were closed in London last year. Sixteen fire engines - 14 pumps and two specialist fire rescue units - as well as 552 firefighter jobs went in the capital, while more than half London's wards reportedly saw response times increase in the months following. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/hundreds-of-firefighters-sign-open-letter-urging-dont-vote-tory-in-wake-of-brigade-cuts-10173819.html

Sadly, London is no stranger to very real terrorism and so when we get a catastrophic terrorist attack on our neighbours land, it becomes our highest priority risk. That means Operation Cobra is on red alert right now but my question is, have we enough 'Strong Tower' trainees to cope? Could our emergency services that have now dwindled down, be an adequate rapid response team? and if not, should we be getting our armies to make a presence on the streets of our cities?

[Kazanne]

I am so glad that Paris is getting support from all around the world, people laying flowers at French Embassies in a show of solidarity and public buildings all over the world being lit in the colours of the French flag. Also, this story was breaking news when I started watching the news last night, and before the end of the bulletin, Obama had already spoken pledging America's allegiance.

Me too Livia,good people have to stand against such evil,'they' if given the chance will destroy the world as we know it,I fear for my children sometimes.

[JoshBB]

I am so glad that Paris is getting support from all around the world, people laying flowers at French Embassies in a show of solidarity and public buildings all over the world being lit in the colours of the French flag. Also, this story was breaking news when I started watching the news last night, and before the end of the bulletin, Obama had already spoken pledging America's allegiance.

At least during times of tragedy the world can come together to help one another. We are all one human race after all.

[bots]

I haven't suggested we ignore it yet the messages he sends are for me contradictory, he suggests that we're at risk of attack... and then scales back frontline services, it makes no sense.
The bombing campaign has I think been seen as extreme provocation, as said I don't know what the alternatives were, we can only hope we are capable of an adequate response to any threat.

the reality is that we have enough resources to cope with most terrorist events, up to a point. You can never build in enough contingency in all systems to cope with the worst possible eventuality in every circumstance. Its just not cost effective or realistically feasible.

There will always be controversy when services are cut back, that can't be avoided, and sometimes they may be cut back more than ideal, no one can argue against that, but when it comes to such events, it requires everyone whether civilian or in the services to do their bit. It's our country's freedoms that are at stake, everyone must pull together.

[Denver]

Just on BBC one of the suicide bombers was female.

[Kizzy]

the reality is that we have enough resources to cope with most terrorist events, up to a point. You can never build in enough contingency in all systems to cope with the worst possible eventuality in every circumstance. Its just not cost effective or realistically feasible.

There will always be controversy when services are cut back, that can't be avoided, and sometimes they may be cut back more than ideal, no one can argue against that, but when it comes to such events, it requires everyone whether civilian or in the services to do their bit. It's our country's freedoms that are at stake, everyone must pull together.

Given what DR has posted I don't know how you can say this with confidence, nobody knows with the reduction in first responders we've had if we will cope.
It most certainly could have been avoided, with a terror level as high as was purported cuts should have been from anywhere but surely?
Sorry but leaning on the third sector and or civilians is not an adequate response to the threat of the collapse of British infrastructure.

[bots]

Given what DR has posted I don't know how you can say this with confidence, nobody knows with the reduction in first responders we've had if we will cope.
It most certainly could have been avoided, with a terror lever as high as was purported cuts should have been from anywhere but surely?
Sorry but leaning on the third sector and or civilians is not an adequate response to the threat of the collapse of British infrastructure.

we will just have to disagree and leave it at that :douf:

[Jamie89]

I have nothing to add to the debate because I honestly wouldn't know where to begin in dealing with terrorism, but the whole situation is so devastating, I just want to say my thoughts are with all of those affected by this horrible tragedy.

[arista]

Its Shocking to Hear in the Rock Band Concert Hall
once they shot loads they Reloaded - at that point I would Run at him
smashing his face in.
If the other did that at Reloading - less would have died

[Denver]

I just read on Twitter that 75% of Isis weapons come from the US, so why can't they stop selling them and put a weapon embargo on this countries .

[Denver]

Its Shocking to Hear in the Rock Band Concert Hall
once they shot loads they Reloaded - at that point I would Run at him
smashing his face in.
If the other did that at Reloading - less would have died

They all had bombs on them so they would of blew you up with themselves.

[arista]

I just read on Twitter that 75% of Isis weapons come from the US, so why can't they stop selling them and put a weapon embargo on this countries .


Its a Business to sell arms
many do not care who buys them.


Thats USA for you

[arista]

They all had bombs on them so they would of blew you up with themselves.


Only if I let him pull the Cord
you have to be extra fast

[Denver]

Its a Business to sell arms
many do not care who buys them.


Thats USA for you

In a way the USA are to blame for this they need to stop selling these weapons, the more they sell the more innocent people die.

[arista]

In a way the USA are to blame for this they need to stop selling these weapons, the more they sell the more innocent people die.


Its a International Market.

To many weapons out there now,
and USA stays Pro gun at home

[Novo]

Sounds like a good scene for a Bond Movie Arista but lets be honest no one would have a clue what to do in that situation

[arista]

Sounds like a good scene for a Bond Movie Arista but lets be honest no one would have a clue what to do in that situation


Yes but you just watched two lines of Folks
in front of you Die
so I would Run Fast as ever

Its not in my nature to just stand there and be shot .


You can think fast if Death is in Front of you

[Iceman]

But you haven't been in that situation so you don't know.

[joeysteele]

Shock and total surprise take over in these tragic events.
Most likely just freeze and cannot fathom out what to do for the best.
This is a truly awful nightmare.

[Novo]

In a few years from now we will be all wishing the Soviet Union was a success and Communism was the driving force in eastern europe and policing the middle east, that would have been for the better, Pls Confirm Arista

[arista]

In a few years from now we will be all wishing the Soviet Union was a success and Communism was the driving force in eastern europe and policing the middle east, that would have been for the better, Pls Confirm Arista


If Putin Kills all Isis in Syria
even USA will love him , again.

[Kazanne]

Yes but you just watched two lines of Folks
in front of you Die
so I would Run Fast as ever

Its not in my nature to just stand there and be shot .


You can think fast if Death is in Front of you

Weren't they all made to lie down though?

[arista]

One Terrorist has been confirmed (from finger prints taken)
has now been confirmed as a French National,

This is why they did so well , sadly

[joeysteele]

Weren't they all made to lie down though?


Good point.

[arista]

Weren't they all made to lie down though?


Yes one who was under them,said that
on all news reports.

But I still say if someone in front of me
is reloading
that is a chance I can take him out.
and not just freeze

[Denver]

Yes one who was under them,said that
on all news reports.

But I still say if someone in front of me
is reloading
that is a chance I can take him out.
and not just freeze

Arista I really think your leaving in a dream world.

[T*]

No need for nastiness..

[DemolitionRed]

In a way the USA are to blame for this they need to stop selling these weapons, the more they sell the more innocent people die.

They don't buy these guns online from American gun sites. They use American weapons left over/behind from NATO’s intervention in Libya and Iraq but American weaponry isn't the only weapons IS use. Most of their military supplies come out of Turkey and Saudi Arabia and a lot of it comes from factories that have been seized by IS.

[Northern Monkey]

BBC News saying so far one French National suspected and a Syrian passport found near one of the terrorists.

Possibly the Syrians coming in with the refugees and meeting up with one or more French nationals who would know in more detail where the targets were?

[Tom4784]

I don't think we're far off a full invasion of Syria at this point.

[Denver]

I don't think we're far off a full invasion of Syria at this point.

If the USA elect Trump then that certainly what will happen.

[Northern Monkey]

BBC news report:"Attackers were a self contained cell back from Syria"
They've been to Syria to train or fight with ISIS and come back to France to attack.Also atleast one could be Syrian as a Syrian passport was found.

[Denver]

BBC news report:"Attackers were a self contained cell back from Syria"
They've been to Syria to train or fight with ISIS and come back to France to attack.Also atleast one could be Syrian as a Syrian passport was found.

I still stick by my belief that there disguising themselves as refugees to get access to the countries because it the easiest way of getting in.

[kirklancaster]

First and foremost I send my thoughts to Every person who has been affected by this despicable act.




I agree. Scotland Yard have repeatedly spoken about its concerns over national security and public safety because of budgetary cuts.

The fire service is in an even worse state. Ten fire stations were closed in London last year. Sixteen fire engines - 14 pumps and two specialist fire rescue units - as well as 552 firefighter jobs went in the capital, while more than half London's wards reportedly saw response times increase in the months following. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/hundreds-of-firefighters-sign-open-letter-urging-dont-vote-tory-in-wake-of-brigade-cuts-10173819.html

Sadly, London is no stranger to very real terrorism and so when we get a catastrophic terrorist attack on our neighbours land, it becomes our highest priority risk. That means Operation Cobra is on red alert right now but my question is, have we enough 'Strong Tower' trainees to cope? Could our emergency services that have now dwindled down, be an adequate rapid response team? and if not, should we be getting our armies to make a presence on the streets of our cities?

Yep. If only we had spent all those zillions which we have wasted on EU membership, and in accomodating all its OPEN DOOR immigration Free For All policies, and in contributing 'Aid' to countries who have stronger economies than ours, and to corrupt countries to squander on 'Vanity Projects etc etc etc etc etc - Then perhaps we could have taken better care of our own homeless and needy and sick, and strengthened our Military, and extended our Security and Intelligence Services.

And if only we did not keep bowing to anti-British propaganda and dancing like their marionettes, and screaming and protesting every time our OWN government calls for EXTRA powers to help defeat these murdering scumbags.

In the immortal words of the great Humphrey Bogart: "All the 'Copy-Pasta' in the cyber world does not amount to a hill of beans if it always emanates from the same sinister Anti-Democratic sources kid"

Though Bogey may have been wrong when he said; "We'll always have Paris" because IF the appeasers in this world continue to get their way, we may not have Paris for much longer - Or London, or New York, or Amsterdam, or Stockholm etc etc etc etc.

[arista]

I don't think we're far off a full invasion of Syria at this point.


No Dezzy
Russia is there now

[kirklancaster]

Arista I really think your leaving in a dream world.

No Adam - All those idiots who think we can negotiate with these insane demons are living in a Dream World . Unfortunately their penchant for operating their mouths without engaging a brain is compelling all us who DO NOT share their idiot dreams to live in a ******* nightmare.

And I am now SICK and Tired of hearing them.

[Tom4784]

If the USA elect Trump then that certainly what will happen.

If that happens (thankfully it won't) then we're ALL doomed.

[Denver]

No Dezzy
Russia is there now

Whether you like Putin or not he is the only person with balls to stand up to them and go after them.

[Denver]

Breaking News

Belgian police have carried out raids linked to the attacks and have arrested 1 man.

[LukeB]

Still can't get my head around this!

[Denver]

It been confirmed 1 of the attackers traveled through Greece in October on the same root the migrants came in.

[DemolitionRed]

Yep. If only we had spent all those zillions which we have wasted on EU membership, and in accomodating all its OPEN DOOR immigration Free For All policies, and in contributing 'Aid' to countries who have stronger economies than ours, and to corrupt countries to squander on 'Vanity Projects etc etc etc etc etc - Then perhaps we could have taken better care of our own homeless and needy and sick, and strengthened our Military, and extended our Security and Intelligence Services.

And if only we did not keep bowing to anti-British propaganda and dancing like their marionettes, and screaming and protesting every time our OWN government calls for EXTRA powers to help defeat these murdering scumbags.

In the immortal words of the great Humphrey Bogart: "All the 'Copy-Pasta' in the cyber world does not amount to a hill of beans if it always emanates from the same sinister Anti-Democratic sources kid"

Though Bogey may have been wrong when he said; "We'll always have Paris" because IF the appeasers in this world continue to get their way, we may not have Paris for much longer - Or London, or New York, or Amsterdam, or Stockholm etc etc etc etc.

Was it something I said :conf:

[Cherie]

It been confirmed 1 of the attackers traveled through Greece in October on the same root the migrants came in.

It was suggested this would happen when Angela decided to open Germany's borders to all, Cameron may do a lot wrong but his decision to take refugees directly from camps was a sound policy.

[kirklancaster]

Was it something I said :conf:

:laugh: No - nothing personal. I was just addressing the very true points in the quote in your post Demo.

[Denver]

It was suggested this would happen when Angela decided to open Germany's borders to all, Cameron may do a lot wrong but his decision to take refugees directly from camps was a sound policy.

I totally agree and now it's been confirmed they registered as a refugee if this doesn't make Europe rethink the situation I don't know what will.

[Niamh.]

I totally agree and now it's been confirmed they registered as a refugee if this doesn't make Europe rethink the situation I don't know what will.

I feel so bad for the genuine people of syria who just want to get themselves and their families to safety, it breaks my heart thinking about if it were me and my family who happened to have been born there rather than this side of the world. But becuase of these attacks on Paris I think Europe is left with little choice but to close the borders for now :(

[Cherie]

I feel so bad for the genuine people of syria who just want to get themselves and their families to safety, it breaks my heart thinking about if it were me and my family who happened to have been born there rather than this side of the world. But becuase of these attacks on Paris I think Europe is left with little choice but to close the borders for now :(

I know but if they had actually addressed the crises properly to begin with instead of passing it around like a hot potato from country to country, European leaders have contributed to this and should feel ashamed

[DemolitionRed]

:laugh: No - nothing personal. I was just addressing the very true points in the quote in your post Demo.

Ah Ok...takes my sensitive hat off!

On another note, I've just found out through a friend, that a friend of hers (someone I don't know) daughter was killed in the shooting last night. She is English.

[Kizzy]

I feel so bad for the genuine people of syria who just want to get themselves and their families to safety, it breaks my heart thinking about if it were me and my family who happened to have been born there rather than this side of the world. But becuase of these attacks on Paris I think Europe is left with little choice but to close the borders for now :(

Yes I'm thinking this too, earlier the attacks provoked responses such as 'we are all humans'... I didn't hear that sentiment as such for the refugees just suspicion, this news of course will just fuel that.

[Cherie]

Ah Ok...takes my sensitive hat off!

On another note, I've just found out through a friend, that a friend of hers (someone I don't know) daughter was killed in the shooting last night. She is English.

Sorry to hear DR that I expect many nationalities will be involved

[Kizzy]

Ah Ok...takes my sensitive hat off!

On another note, I've just found out through a friend, that a friend of hers (someone I don't know) daughter was killed in the shooting last night. She is English.

I can't imagine how that must feel :(

[jennyjuniper]

I.m still waiting for all the Islamic countries to bond together and send in troops to wipe out isis.
It's great that Russia is doing something, but surely it would be even better if all Islamic countries sent in massive amounts of troops to wipe the floor with the scum that is isis.
My sympathy to all the innocent victims in France.

[Denver]

I.m still waiting for all the Islamic countries to bond together and send in troops to wipe out isis.
It's great that Russia is doing something, but surely it would be even better if all Islamic countries sent in massive amounts of troops to wipe the floor with the scum that is isis.
My sympathy to all the innocent victims in France.

This the thing I hate is how all Islamic countries are perceived as terrorist when there not this terrorist are not Muslims and do not follow by Islam rules , I saw a list of things on Twitter earlier by a Muslim of all the things they should not do and these terrorist groups have done all of those things they shouldn't.

[arista]

Ch4HD news about to start
gets a longer hour show for a Saturday
due to Paris Terrorist Nov 13th attack

[kirklancaster]

Ah Ok...takes my sensitive hat off!

On another note, I've just found out through a friend, that a friend of hers (someone I don't know) daughter was killed in the shooting last night. She is English.

That's terrible Red. Please extend to her ALL our condolences from us Tibbies. I know that I just could not cope with this, honestly. RIP.

[Drew.]

Not entirely sure what it all means but his cousin was killed in the attacks last night whilst Diarra was playing at the stadium for France, its all a bit mental.

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[EspeonBB]

The Belgian justice minister says "a number" of arrests have been made in Brussels in relation to the Paris attacks, according to the Associated Press news agency.

This comes after police raided a neighbourhood of the Belgian capital earlier on Saturday.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-34815972

[arista]

From Ch4HD News
Live one British Person is Dead
so far.


Also One Terrorist Suicide Bastard had a
ticket to the Football game
but was not permitted in due to a search.

He then Blew himself up outside the stadium
France has still to confirm if anyone else was killed
at that location

[zakman440]

An update now on the BBC News Channel from a French prosecutor:

- 129 are dead
- 352 are injured
- 99 critically injured.

Just terrible.

[DemolitionRed]

Thank you Cherie, Kizzy and Kirk. I don't know her personally but it does bring home how close this really is.

[GiRTh]

Terrible tragedy.

[arista]

There is a Problem as one or two Terrorists from Syria
had a Passport used to get in at Greece.

Unless that was stolen


Ref: Ch4HD News Live

[kirklancaster]

An update now on the BBC News Channel from a French prosecutor:

- 129 are dead
- 352 are injured
- 99 critically injured.

Just terrible.

I honestly do not possess the mental capacity to fully comprehend those numbers, no matter how much I think about this atrocity. It is mind-numbing.

[Livia]

I see one of the dead terrorists registered as a refugee in Greece last month. How many more terrorists have floated into Europe on the coat tails of the refugees.

[arista]

I see one of the dead terrorists registered as a refugee in Greece last month. How many more terrorists have floated into Europe on the coat tails of the refugees.


Yes Farage warned the UK this would happen.
And Some Conservative MP's did.

It makes it easy to get into Europe
with a Syrian Passport.
the Horror they scream,
but thats just bacting as they are
ranking Isis members
ready to destroy France
who bombs them.

Bloody German Leader got even more rushed in

[King Gizzard]

Somethings happening at/near the Eiffel Tower :/

[King Gizzard]

https://twitter.com/rt_america/status/665637218577420289

[King Gizzard]

665564258684510208

Christ, one of my favourite bands

[Pete.]

Somethings happening at/near the Eiffel Tower :/

:conf2:

[Vanessa]

D:

[Denver]

Not again.

[Samm]

please not again :(

[King Gizzard]

https://twitter.com/bbcnews/status/665640584443490304
Thank god

[Denver]

665640402196779008

[Denver]

It highly likely a 2nd attacker came on the immigrants boats.

[Jordan.]

https://instagram.com/p/-CeLtJqLS2/ </3

The girl who posted this survived :love:

vvaah I am safe, I hid myself under the roof and waited for 5 hours for the police to come. No injuries, but thinking about all the victims of this awful event...

[Z]

I'm terrified to go to Berlin next month

[arista]

I'm terrified to go to Berlin next month


Berlin should be fine,

[Ammi]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/15/01/2E71F86E00000578-3318903-image-m-39_1447552162419.jpg

[arista]

Nice of U2

[Ammi]

I'm terrified to go to Berlin next month

..I do understand your fears Z..but that's the thing though isn't it, it's the aim of extremists to terrorise and to 'disable' people from feeling that they can live their lives from day to day or do things that were their plans to do...the only way really, is to do just that and not allow ourselves to live our lives in fear..

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/14/23/2E72EAAD00000578-3318379-image-a-23_1447544896811.jpg
[One of the terrorists is believed to have left Syria,
travelled through Turkey and registered
as a refugee on the Greek island of Leros
on October 3 before
continuing his journey northwards
eventually arriving in Paris]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3318379/Hunt-Isis-killers-Syrian-passport-body-suicide-bomber-Stade-France.html#ixzz3rXSiR6pc


Also there may be more that went through the Greece route

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/15/03/2E740C5A00000578-3318903-Eight_bombers_carried_out_the_devastating_attacks_ leaving_128_pe-a-48_1447557215785.jpg

[Vanessa]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/15/01/2E71F86E00000578-3318903-image-m-39_1447552162419.jpg

They were in Paris for their tour. Bless them, they really care so much.

[arista]

Briton 'Died A Hero' In Paris Music Hall

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/14/430079/default/v1/nick-alexander-2-1-736x414.jpg
[Nick Alexander, from Colchester, Essex,
was shot when the Bataclan music venue
was stormed by terrorists in a gun
and bomb rampage that killed 89 people.
The 36-year-old veteran merchandise
manager was working for the American
rock band Eagles of Death Metal,
who were playing at the venue
on Friday night.]

http://news.sky.com/story/1587749/briton-died-a-hero-in-paris-music-hall

A Great Young Man
working for the band "Eagles Of Death Metal "

He is the first British
Person confirmed shot dead

[arista]

From SkyNewsHD Live
The French reporter lady who is normally on Dateline (BBCNews saturdays)
said that the one Terrorist they knew, (infact ,arrested 8 times)
was not watched enough.

Should France
start to arrest & jail
Isis supporters living in Paris?

[arista]

From Marr BBC1 Live.

German Police uncovered a car full of weapons
on the way to Paris.
But did not bother to tell Paris Police.

They need to work together more

[Vanessa]

From Marr BBC1 Live.

German Police uncovered a car full of weapons
on the way to Paris.
But did not bother to tell Paris Police.

They need to work together more

:shocked:

[BBfanUSA]

I saw this elsewhere so I'm going to bring it up here.

The media may realize this but by putting the fear into non-Muslims that anyone could join ISIS only makes Muslims want to join ISIS. Because we, as a society, ostracize them because we associate ISIS with all Muslims.

[Livia]

I saw this elsewhere so I'm going to bring it up here.

The media may realize this but by putting the fear into non-Muslims that anyone could join ISIS only makes Muslims want to join ISIS. Because we, as a society, ostracize them because we associate ISIS with all Muslims.

I don't think that's true. I think that most people know someone who is a Muslim and who blows that theory completely. You've only got to look at the news to see Muslims standing in solidarity with the people of Paris. The way I see it is this: we have lots of refugees flooding in from Syria. If I was in charge of ISIS I'd make sure that as many of them as I could arrange would be ISIS terrorists. We've already seen that one of the terrorists from the Paris atrocity registered himself as a refugee last month in Greece and ended up being able to travel to France. How many more of them are here now? One in a thousand? One in a hundred? One in ten? It's for this reason that I think the UN has to coordinate the onward movement of refugees from their camps and make a priority of families with children.

[Kizzy]

I think the way it's being touted that one was found to have passed through Greece is allowing those who opposed refugees to feel justified.
It's going to fuel more animosity towards Syrian refugees.

[JoshBB]

I don't think that's true. I think that most people know someone who is a Muslim and who blows that theory completely. You've only got to look at the news to see Muslims standing in solidarity with the people of Paris. The way I see it is this: we have lots of refugees flooding in from Syria. If I was in charge of ISIS I'd make sure that as many of them as I could arrange would be ISIS terrorists. We've already seen that one of the terrorists from the Paris atrocity registered himself as a refugee last month in Greece and ended up being able to travel to France. How many more of them are here now? One in a thousand? One in a hundred? One in ten? It's for this reason that I think the UN has to coordinate the onward movement of refugees from their camps and make a priority of families with children.

Surely though, these people would have been checked for weapons before they would be allowed to cross borders. And assuming that was done correctly, they must have gotten their weapons from inside. So I wouldn't say it has much to do with refugees to be honest.

[Livia]

Surely though, these people would have been checked for weapons before they would be allowed to cross borders. And assuming that was done correctly, they must have gotten their weapons from inside. So I wouldn't say it has much to do with refugees to be honest.

It's everything to do with refugees, Josh. Of course they didn't bring the guns in with them. They used the refugee crisis to get in themselves, no border controls... the terrorist in question just walked straight in and regrouped in Paris with his cell. People must be checked before they arrived. All refugees should have to go through processing by the UN. If they're allowed to continue to arrive unchecked, we're going to be letting more and more terrorist in with the genuine refugees. I'd like to see the UN make a priority of families with children because at the moment by far the largest group arriving are young men. It has to be controlled before another atrocity happens and people call for refugees to be turned away all together.

[Livia]

I think the way it's being touted that one was found to have passed through Greece is allowing those who opposed refugees to feel justified.
It's going to fuel more animosity towards Syrian refugees.

They don't feel justified, they are justified. You don't have to be a genius to know this was going to happen. Animosity would be controlled if the refugees are properly processed by the UN instead of just walking in.

[Ninastar]

once again Livia, beautifully said. as per xx

[Kizzy]

They don't feel justified, they are justified. You don't have to be a genius to know this was going to happen. Animosity would be controlled if the refugees are properly processed by the UN instead of just walking in.

Ah well if you feel that the route took by this man ( as reported) condemns all refugees than that's fair enough.

[Livia]

Ah well if you feel that the route took by this man ( as reported) condemns all refugees than that's fair enough.

You know how you're always saying I - or anyone else who's opinions differs from yours - has misquoted you? Go back and read what I said. I said there needed to be controls and the UN should be processing everyone to stop terrorist getting in. I never ONCE condemned refugees, in fact I believe controls like that would make it better for refugees. But you know that, don't you.

[arista]

I think the way it's being touted that one was found to have passed through Greece is allowing those who opposed refugees to feel justified.
It's going to fuel more animosity towards Syrian refugees.


Yes It will
but they are still getting a better life in Europe.

[Ross.]

#LiviaForPrimeMinister

[Ninastar]

#LiviaForPrimeMinister

LOL so true. Livia you need to run for Prime Minister and then get in another accident the day before the election and win!!! (not that you wouldnt win anyway tbh xoxo)

[Denver]

I'd make a good PM :hehe:

[Cherie]

#LiviaForPrimeMinister

Actually I need to be made PM as I made the point Livia made pages back :smug:

[Cherie]

I'd make a good PM :hehe:

:nono: the jobs mine!!

[Denver]

:nono: the jobs mine!!

We can share it.

I do weekdays you do weekends :hehe:

[Livia]

#LiviaForPrimeMinister

LOL so true. Livia you need to run for Prime Minister and then get in another accident the day before the election and win!!! (not that you wouldnt win anyway tbh xoxo)

They couldn't pay me enough to do that job. And I'm not getting in to any more accidents just to gain popularity, it's too bloody painful...

[Cherie]

We can share it.

I do weekdays you do weekends :hehe:

Deal, I want that salary for life the PM gets

[arista]

I'd make a good PM :hehe:

Get into Politics
work you way up

[arista]

Record or Watch Ch4 / Ch4HD News at 5:10PM today
Extended Edition again. Live In Paris

Yesterdays was better than all the others

[kirklancaster]

You know how you're always saying I - or anyone else who's opinions differs from yours - has misquoted you? Go back and read what I said. I said there needed to be controls and the UN should be processing everyone to stop terrorist getting in. I never ONCE condemned refugees, in fact I believe controls like that would make it better for refugees. But you know that, don't you.

Exactly. It's such a shame.

[DemolitionRed]

Deal, I want that salary for life the PM gets

Stick with being an MP, it pays more and there's less responsibility :laugh:

[arista]

One Suspect is still on the Run
So Police say.

Ref:Ch4HDNews / SkyNewsHD / CNN/ France24/ BBCNewsHD

[Denver]

One Suspect is still on the Run
So Police say.

Ref:Ch4HDNews / SkyNewsHD / CNN/ France24/ BBCNewsHD

When they find him shoot him don't arrest him

[arista]

When they find him shoot him don't arrest him

They may have to
this is him, He is Dangerous.
Named as Abdeslam Salah aged 26


http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/15/430232/default/v1/image2-1-736x414.jpg
http://news.sky.com/story/1588193/police-manhunt-for-paris-attacks-suspect


Ch4HDNews was Great tonight

[Shaun]

When they find him shoot him don't arrest him

Shoot everyone!!!! Don't bother finding anything useful out from detainees!!!! Death to everyone!!!!

[Denver]

Shoot everyone!!!! Don't bother finding anything useful out from detainees!!!! Death to everyone!!!!

They will not tell ius anything it will be a waste of time, we need to show them we are not gonna take it easy.

[arista]

Shoot everyone!!!! Don't bother finding anything useful out from detainees!!!! Death to everyone!!!!
If they can take him Alive
they will.
But they must get him Fast


Shaun


Paris is Under a State Of Emergency
The Police do not want Large Gatherings

You should have watched Ch4news

[Samm]

He would want to be killed, lock him up.

[Drew.]

The news was mental a few minutes ago.. luckily i think its only a false alarm

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[Tom4784]

They will not tell ius anything it will be a waste of time, we need to show them we are not gonna take it easy.

Oh? How do you know that he wouldn't have any information?

What would 'sending a message' do exactly? These terrorists went through with the attacks knowing that they wouldn't likely survive so why give them what they want? They WANT to become martyrs for their cause, they want the afterlife they beleive they'll get for throwing their lives and the lives of others away for nothing.

[Pete.]

That's crazy paranoia

[Ninastar]

That's crazy paranoia

hmm, its almost like nearly 130 were murdered there the other day or something

[Will.]

The news was mental a few minutes ago.. luckily i think its only a false alarm

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Wait what happened?

[Drew.]

Not sure, probably someone making a loud noise or a bang somewhere.. they must all be on the edge

[Pete.]

hmm, its almost like nearly 130 were murdered there the other day or something
Which is why they're paranoid..

[Will.]

Not sure, probably someone making a loud noise or a bang somewhere.. they must all be on the edge

oh ok.

[arista]

The news was mental a few minutes ago.. luckily i think its only a false alarm

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France 24 said it was a Car that hit some people.


Drew could you please add Nov 13th 2015
to your title

[Drew.]

It is the 15th today Arista

[arista]

It is the 15th today Arista


Yes I now
But the Attack was the 13th
its now set in History

Paris Terrorist Attack Nov 13th

[Ninastar]

destroy him drew

[arista]

destroy him drew


Its more than just shootings now
It went down on the 13th of Nov


I sent a PM to Drew

[Drew.]

as you asked so nicely

[lewis111]

Wait what happened?

Apparently someone set off a firecracker thing

[arista]

as you asked so nicely

Yes rare for Cold Me

[arista]

Apparently someone set off a firecracker thing


And France24
said it was Car that hit some peeple

[Jordan.]

I can't with news sites posting an image of the dead bodies inside the theatre :umm2:

[lewis111]

I can't with news sites posting an image of the dead bodies inside the theatre :umm2:

BBC news showed the shooting at the café and the dead bodies outside, don't think that's suitable for 6 o'clock news

[billy123]

I see the racists have already started to try and use a tragic situation to try and further their bigoted point of view.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/15/ukip-candidate-calls-for-mosques-to-be-closed-after-paris-attacks-5503465/?ito=twitter

A Ukip candidate has been condemned after calling for mosques to be closed in the wake of terrorist attacks in Paris.

Adrian Howard, who won more than 6,000 votes when he stood to be MP for Macclesfield, said mosques should close and that the hijab and burka should be banned.

When asked what his ‘solution’ would be to terrorist attacks, Howard wrote: ‘Close down all Mosques, Madrasas, ban the Hijab, Burka & all religious displays in public. People dying due to this alien religion.’

[Denver]

I see the racists have already started to try and use a tragic situation to try and further their bigoted point of view.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/15/ukip-candidate-calls-for-mosques-to-be-closed-after-paris-attacks-5503465/?ito=twitter

When will people realise this terrorist are not proper Muslims? They have killed loads of innocent Muslims as well and have broken so many commandments from the Quran.

[Pete.]

I see the racists have already started to try and use a tragic situation to try and further their bigoted point of view.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/15/ukip-candidate-calls-for-mosques-to-be-closed-after-paris-attacks-5503465/?ito=twitter
Vile

[Kizzy]

You know how you're always saying I - or anyone else who's opinions differs from yours - has misquoted you? Go back and read what I said. I said there needed to be controls and the UN should be processing everyone to stop terrorist getting in. I never ONCE condemned refugees, in fact I believe controls like that would make it better for refugees. But you know that, don't you.

'They don't feel justified, they are justified'
My comment was based on this part of your post, I wasn't attempting to quote you directly.
I can't see how a terrorist with a passport stamped in Greece justifies what has been said regarding the refugees... not by yourself but in the media.

[lewis111]

France have launched massive Airstrikes on Syria

[Jordan.]

:clap1:

[lewis111]

Strongly disagree with War, but what other options are there

[Kizzy]

I saw the kids in the sky report...It just seems like revenge, I hope it isn't :(

[Mokka]

I saw the kids in the sky report...It just seems like revenge, I hope it isn't :(

I agree

[arista]

France have launched massive Airstrikes on Syria

http://news.sky.com/story/1588256/france-drops-20-bombs-on-is-stronghold-raqqa

[Shaun]

Strongly disagree with War, but what other options are there

Quite a few.

[Dollface]

Quite a few.

like?

[lewis111]

Quite a few.

Like??

[Ninastar]

I don't really agree with the bombing, but it's better than doing nothing. I know this is isnt of popular opinion, but I believe we should unite with the rest of the world (whoever is willing to help) and send out our armies. It will take years and years, maybe even decades... but we need intelligence over there. Once things are finally stable, we should then help rebuild/restore the communities, help educate the children with a proper education. I feel bad for the children more than anything, because they dont have a choice in whether they become a terrorist or not.

[lewis111]

I'd be the first to supporrt another option that isn't war, but there isn't one ISIS need to be taken down, how else but to, well, kill them or arrest them but thta's much harder to do

[Brother Leon]

War is slowly becoming the option tbf. Or we can arm "moderate rebels" or even "brave rebels". It worked great the first time :(

[Jordan.]

like?

Like??

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[Glenn.]

It's a shame they're not atomic bombs. Still time for that though.

[lewis111]

It's a shame they're not atomic bombs. Still time for that though.

That'll kill far too many innocent civillians

[Glenn.]

So?

[Mokka]

So?

So... That would make it no different, if not worse, then innocent people being shot in the streets of Paris

[lewis111]

SyrianLivesMatter

Unfortunatley, many will die either way; if we go to war with Isis or if we don't, we should focus on saving as many innocent as possible