View Full Version : Paris Terrorist Shootings
Glenn.
15-11-2015, 10:22 PM
The need of the many outweigh the few.
Jordan.
15-11-2015, 10:24 PM
When did they start letting innocent civillians live? Anyone around them is already brainwashed to their ways
empire
15-11-2015, 10:24 PM
My fear is that the liberal left, will pander to the extremists, and that means that they have a right to dictate their values to the people of europe, and will have laws to have you locked up for saying no, I can not believe in what the left wing journalists came out with, by saying that it is are fault that these people did what they had done, and are society had alienated them, hang on here, these people do not want to integrate, all they want to do is dictate their way of life, and if they don't get what they want, they use the bomb and bullet, left-wing leaders like merkel have caused culture genocide, to the people of europe, they tried to jail marie le pen and it backfired, two days before the attack, the polls went over the roof in support of her, it looks set that the right wing are getting stronger every minute, if no government is set to close their borders, and deport trouble makers, then every city and town and street will be covered in blood, and it would make the attack in paris look like a small brawl, my fear is that a civil war is getting more real in a fast time,
lewis111
15-11-2015, 10:24 PM
The need of the many outweigh the few.
an atomic bomb will not kill "few"
Kizzy
15-11-2015, 10:25 PM
I think there's a few supposedly civilised brainwashed too..
Glenn.
15-11-2015, 10:30 PM
an atomic bomb will not kill "few"
No it won't. It will a lot of the threat away though.
A nuke has the potential to kill a lot of people, but it wont kill them all, it could devastate a city, but it wouldn't kill everyone, at least not immediately. We couldn't nuke several entire countries, to do so would wipe ourselves out too. Meanwhile those that are killed become martyrs to the cause, recruiting thousands more willing to terrorise us.
Extreme violence, revenge, whatever you want to call it, will not resolve the issue.
letmein
15-11-2015, 11:46 PM
My fear is that the liberal left, will pander to the extremists, and that means that they have a right to dictate their values to the people of europe, and will have laws to have you locked up for saying no, I can not believe in what the left wing journalists came out with, by saying that it is are fault that these people did what they had done, and are society had alienated them, hang on here, these people do not want to integrate, all they want to do is dictate their way of life, and if they don't get what they want, they use the bomb and bullet, left-wing leaders like merkel have caused culture genocide, to the people of europe, they tried to jail marie le pen and it backfired, two days before the attack, the polls went over the roof in support of her, it looks set that the right wing are getting stronger every minute, if no government is set to close their borders, and deport trouble makers, then every city and town and street will be covered in blood, and it would make the attack in paris look like a small brawl, my fear is that a civil war is getting more real in a fast time,
Angela Merkel is not left wing.
letmein
15-11-2015, 11:48 PM
France have launched massive Airstrikes on Syria
20 bombs is not massive. lol. Russia is doing 400 a day.
So heartbreaking on the news there was a flase alarm and they were running for there life's you could see the fear on the faces :(
It's a shame they're not atomic bombs. Still time for that though.
Are you serious? That will just cause an out right nuclear war.
EspeonBB
16-11-2015, 12:07 AM
Dropping atomic bombs is not a good idea. So many innocent civilians would die and even the ones who managed to survive would see long term health problems
20 bombs is not massive. lol. Russia is doing 400 a day.
I'm not sure that figure is right about the Russian strikes. The French military themselves described this evenings bombings as massive, they're heavy strikes in a concentrated area all focused on Raqqa
Denver
16-11-2015, 12:57 AM
Dropping atomic bombs is not a good idea. So many innocent civilians would die and even the ones who managed to survive would see long term health problems
What's needed is the west need to force a proper civil war, oust the PM and destroy the Terrorist.
Denver
16-11-2015, 12:58 AM
20 bombs is not massive. lol. Russia is doing 400 a day.
If Russia did 400 a day there would be nobody left alive
Seen on the news earlier that the guy they're hunting down was actually detained by French police after the shootings/bombs but was released. Hopefully they track him down soon.
Denver
16-11-2015, 01:00 AM
Seen on the news earlier that the guy they're hunting down was actually detained by French police after the shootings/bombs but was released. Hopefully they track him down soon.
There is so many loopholes in the French Security levels and they need to tighten up.
the truth
16-11-2015, 04:45 AM
Angela Merkel is not left wing.
she is left wing where she shouldsnt be and right wing where she shouldn't be....she does nothing for workers rights and enslaves us all to huge corporations....she is massively litigious and strangles small business with red tape, she has built a monstrous monolithic wasteful unaccounted unaccountable nightmare which has a 587 page constitution, that no one has read or even understood. she has mish mashed 30 odd ancient countries with 1000s of years of history and stolen their sovereignty....all of which has lead to rivers of blood....oh but she is right wing in one way, she panders to enormous corporations. why do you think she wants open borders? erm to get cheap labour and the falling but ageing german population to rise
a dangerous person who stabbed her mentor in the back to get on, if she had even sense of decency she would resign and disappear.
the truth
16-11-2015, 04:47 AM
My fear is that the liberal left, will pander to the extremists, and that means that they have a right to dictate their values to the people of europe, and will have laws to have you locked up for saying no, I can not believe in what the left wing journalists came out with, by saying that it is are fault that these people did what they had done, and are society had alienated them, hang on here, these people do not want to integrate, all they want to do is dictate their way of life, and if they don't get what they want, they use the bomb and bullet, left-wing leaders like merkel have caused culture genocide, to the people of europe, they tried to jail marie le pen and it backfired, two days before the attack, the polls went over the roof in support of her, it looks set that the right wing are getting stronger every minute, if no government is set to close their borders, and deport trouble makers, then every city and town and street will be covered in blood, and it would make the attack in paris look like a small brawl, my fear is that a civil war is getting more real in a fast time,
This is exactly what is now happening. but with oil running out and population running over 7 billion, theres no escaping all the wars, the greed and theft anymore. weve run out of space and resources and soon we will be at the end of time....I see no way out
arista
16-11-2015, 05:33 AM
Seen on the news earlier that the guy they're hunting down was actually detained by French police after the shootings/bombs but was released. Hopefully they track him down soon.
Yes they had him in their hands
he is a step ahead of them.
It Appears
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arista
16-11-2015, 05:57 AM
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..really heart-breaking, watching the fear of those poor people in Paris with the false alarm yesterday..:sad:...
arista
16-11-2015, 06:08 AM
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arista
16-11-2015, 06:09 AM
..really heart-breaking, watching the fear of those poor people in Paris with the false alarm yesterday..:sad:...
Yes the ran very fast
at least they know
its best to run.
Paris under a State of Emergency
...with the 'Paris Strikes Back'..weren't those planned attacks anyway and not at all a reaction to the attack on Paris...
Locke.
16-11-2015, 06:10 AM
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arista
16-11-2015, 06:14 AM
http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/7E36/production/_86701323_mail16.jpg
..as always, it goes from..well done to the police and forces of Paris, to well you messed up there...if they let him go, there must have been good reason to...
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
16-11-2015, 06:32 AM
Dropping atomic bombs is not a good idea. So many innocent civilians would die and even the ones who managed to survive would see long term health problems
This!
arista
16-11-2015, 07:03 AM
..as always, it goes from..well done to the police and forces of Paris, to well you messed up there...if they let him go, there must have been good reason to...
At that time the Police were under other alerts
Its being reported in many ways
The press make me laugh sometimes. I would like to know how competent they would be in a completely shocking scenario where hundreds were being killed around them. Yes its the police and they are trained etc, but nothing prepares you for that scenario. I say well done to the police in Paris for doing well in an almost impossible scenario
The press make me laugh sometimes. I would like to know how competent they would be in a completely shocking scenario where hundreds were being killed around them. Yes its the police and they are trained etc, but nothing prepares you for that scenario. I say well done to the police in Paris for doing well in an almost impossible scenario
...God love them and bless their little hearts eh, bitontheslide...
Cherie
16-11-2015, 07:27 AM
The press make me laugh sometimes. I would like to know how competent they would be in a completely shocking scenario where hundreds were being killed around them. Yes its the police and they are trained etc, but nothing prepares you for that scenario. I say well done to the police in Paris for doing well in an almost impossible scenario
The media have in parts been disgusting, nothing is sacred anymore, and as for showing the Parisians terrified from a hoax what was the point in that other than confirming to ISIS how well their evil plans are working.
Locke.
16-11-2015, 10:02 AM
It's all happening today. Raided houses, rocket launchers found, and now this
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arista
16-11-2015, 10:11 AM
Suspected Mastermind Of Paris Attacks Named
http://news.sky.com/story/1588480/suspected-mastermind-of-paris-attacks-named
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/16/430338/default/v3/cegrab-20151116-100255-0-1-736x414.jpg
Abdelhamid Abaaoud had links to previous planned attacks
arista
16-11-2015, 11:39 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/16/10/article-3320224-2E7E14DD00000578-864_964x481.jpg
[Belgian extremist Abdelhamid Abaaoud, 27,
(centre and top right) is one of the
world's most wanted war criminals
and is believed to have persuaded
thousands of young jihadis to come
to Syria, including his brother
Younes, 13, ISIS' youngest fanatic.]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3320224/The-mastermind-terror-Officials-say-Paris-massacres-planned-Belgian-recruited-13-year-old-brother-fight-ISIS-Syria-posed-smiling-decapitated-bodies.html
arista
16-11-2015, 01:55 PM
http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2013/05/piers.morgan.jpg
Piers Morgan as guest
on LooseWomenHD talking about this Paris tragedy
said "Isis is like the Nazi New World Order was."
And he said he backs our P.M.
and he said thats rare
lostalex
16-11-2015, 01:58 PM
http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2013/05/piers.morgan.jpg
Piers Morgan as guest
on LooseWomenHD talking about this Paris tragedy
said "Isis is like the Nazi New World Order was."
And he said he backs our P.M.
and he said thats rare
i got an infraction yesterday for comparing isis to nazis.
now that piers morgan said it i really need to re-evaluate my opinion... i don't like agreeing with that windbag.
arista
16-11-2015, 02:03 PM
i got an infraction yesterday for comparing isis to nazis.
now that piers morgan said it i really need to re-evaluate my opinion... i don't like agreeing with that windbag.
There must be more than just that
to get a infraction
Yes Today Piers talked Good Sense on Paris
his wife was brought up in Paris
arista
16-11-2015, 02:08 PM
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/16/430284/default/v1/cegrab-20151116-065412-0-1-736x414.jpg
I like the French PM talking Tough
[Manuel Valls warned that terrorists
are planning attacks around Europe]
SkyNews USA site
http://news.sky.com/story/1588392/french-pm-more-attacks-are-being-planned
Niamh.
16-11-2015, 02:10 PM
i got an infraction yesterday for comparing isis to nazis.
now that piers morgan said it i really need to re-evaluate my opinion... i don't like agreeing with that windbag.
You need a re read of what you actually got infracted for Alex :laugh:
Kazanne
16-11-2015, 04:18 PM
The media have in parts been disgusting, nothing is sacred anymore, and as for showing the Parisians terrified from a hoax what was the point in that other than confirming to ISIS how well their evil plans are working.
:clap1::clap1::clap1:
Kizzy
16-11-2015, 08:33 PM
panorama BBC1
arista
17-11-2015, 02:54 AM
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arista
17-11-2015, 03:33 PM
Shown On EuroNews
Hollywood Tribute to Paris Attacks
Older Actor Peter Fonda
said his Gut is telling him
to Carpet Bomb them, to Hell with the edges
but he he does not know what to do?
Good Job those GW Bush Days have gone
Although every Mega Bomb Drone
takes a alot of Public near the target
America keeps that info hidden
Brother Leon
17-11-2015, 04:19 PM
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Niamh.
17-11-2015, 04:22 PM
awwww :love:
Kizzy
17-11-2015, 04:23 PM
Thanks for making me cry!... ( It's a good cry :) )
Kazanne
17-11-2015, 04:25 PM
Awwww,what a sweet kid,that was emotional.
Natalie.
17-11-2015, 04:33 PM
Aww how lovely
Cherie
17-11-2015, 04:57 PM
Oh that little guy :love:
Brother Leon
17-11-2015, 07:08 PM
The look he gives his dad at the end. Man..the feels :)
JoshBB
17-11-2015, 07:15 PM
Dropping atomic bombs is not a good idea. So many innocent civilians would die and even the ones who managed to survive would see long term health problems
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This is exactly why I don't think Trident is a good idea.
Drew.
17-11-2015, 07:24 PM
They are at it again.. tonights game between Germany and Holland evacuated at the last minute due to "concrete plans for an explosion"
Drew.
17-11-2015, 07:24 PM
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arista
17-11-2015, 07:26 PM
They are at it again.. tonights game between Germany and Holland evacuated at the last minute due to "concrete plans for an explosion"
Yes Good Job they Stopped the match
Drew.
17-11-2015, 07:33 PM
they've just arrested someone
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUCXWMrWIAE-KsU.jpg
Denver
17-11-2015, 07:35 PM
they've just arrested someone
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUCXWMrWIAE-KsU.jpg
Which country?
Drew.
17-11-2015, 07:36 PM
Germany
..there were 3 arrests in Germany earlier today I think, Drew...
Drew.
17-11-2015, 07:46 PM
Yeah, there seems to be arrests going on everywhere now
according to twitter there were explosives in the back of an ambulance
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Denver
17-11-2015, 08:01 PM
Apparently Germany is next because of Merkel's decision to allow Syrians enter.
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..:lovedup:..I saw this earlier on Imgur ..how easily a child can understand love as a protection from weapons...a beautiful little guy yeah, but a beautiful father as well...:love:..
Iceman
17-11-2015, 08:39 PM
A 2nd German stadium has been evacuated.
Drew.
17-11-2015, 09:49 PM
Luckily its sounding like false alarms tonight
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Iceman
17-11-2015, 09:50 PM
Hopefully.
Kizzy
17-11-2015, 10:21 PM
Luckily its sounding like false alarms tonight
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What... so there was nothing? Why did they say there was, maybe they just wanted to cancel but didn't want to look like cowards?
Cherie
17-11-2015, 10:30 PM
What... so there was nothing? Why did they say there was, maybe they just wanted to cancel but didn't want to look like cowards?
Fans were already in the stadium so it looks like they were being super cautious more than anything
Locke.
17-11-2015, 10:38 PM
What... so there was nothing? Why did they say there was, maybe they just wanted to cancel but didn't want to look like cowards?
They have still said that they had "concrete evidence that someone wanted to set off an explosive device in the stadium."
Locke.
18-11-2015, 06:55 AM
Huge shoot out between the French police and the terrorists. 1 civillian killed and 2 terrorists
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..BBC have just reported 3 killed, including a female who supplied a suicide belt for the Paris attacks...and some police injured...
lewis111
18-11-2015, 07:42 AM
there's been multiple explosions as well and many schools have been called off.
arista
18-11-2015, 07:51 AM
..BBC have just reported 3 killed, including a female who supplied a suicide belt for the Paris attacks...and some police injured...
Evil Isis Terrorist Women
wanting to blow herself up with others
looks like she never got her Evil wish
Very Sad a passer by was killed
Locke.
18-11-2015, 08:52 AM
Rumours that the mastermind behind the attacks the other day who was believed to be in Syria has either been killed/captured in the shoot out, or is the one remaining member surrounded in the apartment
Cherie
18-11-2015, 08:54 AM
If it is him he is not as keen to blow himself up as other have done under his orders
Drew.
18-11-2015, 08:57 AM
I still can't get my head around a man this dangerous thought to be living in Syria actually living right under their noses
Cherie
18-11-2015, 08:59 AM
I still can't get my head around a man this dangerous thought to be living in Syria actually living right under their noses
And where the French have got this information from so quickly?
Drew.
18-11-2015, 09:19 AM
someome must have snitched on them
More than 200 Russian people including children are blown up by an ISIS bomb - world reaction - oh, that's a shame
More than 100 French people are killed in an ISIS attack - world reaction - mass grief, outrage, commitment to help in any way possible, governments stand together, landmarks lit up in French colours etc etc etc
arista
18-11-2015, 10:35 AM
More than 200 Russian people including children are blown up by an ISIS bomb - world reaction - oh, that's a shame
More than 100 French people are killed in an ISIS attack - world reaction - mass grief, outrage, commitment to help in any way possible, governments stand together, landmarks lit up in French colours etc etc etc
Yes its Normal
sadly
arista
18-11-2015, 10:37 AM
someome must have snitched on them
Yes good on them,
Great they have 3 Suspects Alive
Police will Force it out of them now
make a Great Film
Cherie
18-11-2015, 10:39 AM
More than 200 Russian people including children are blown up by an ISIS bomb - world reaction - oh, that's a shame
More than 100 French people are killed in an ISIS attack - world reaction - mass grief, outrage, commitment to help in any way possible, governments stand together, landmarks lit up in French colours etc etc etc
I know where you are coming from the impact of the plane was "diminished" by the mixed messages as to what happened to it, ISIS claimed it but that was quickly brushed aside, The bomb at Ankara killing over 100 was quickly forgotton as well, it makes no sense really why some atrocities get more of a reaction than others.
It does make some sense though. Paris carried a greater impact because of the shock of it happening on European soil in a country that has been stable and peaceful for decades. It's also a country that, for the vast majority of us, we're likely to have more affinity with and feel closer to than Ankara or Beirut. It's true that much worse violence goes on everyday in Syria, Iraq etc. and that worse violence has occurred in Lebanon, Gaza and other countries but its exactly because the violence is so frequent there that it feels like another world to us, it's very hard to comprehend. Going to a rock concert or drinking at a bar on a Friday evening we can comprehend. There's more a feeling that that could have been us who went out to enjoy the start of the weekend and somehow ended up at the centre of a deadly terror attack.
Drew.
18-11-2015, 11:04 AM
Good post Matthew
Niamh.
18-11-2015, 11:04 AM
Yeah, that's it in a nutshell really Matt
Kizzy
18-11-2015, 11:19 AM
It does make some sense though. Paris carried a greater impact because of the shock of it happening on European soil in a country that has been stable and peaceful for decades. It's also a country that, for the vast majority of us, we're likely to have more affinity with and feel closer to than Ankara or Beirut. It's true that much worse violence goes on everyday in Syria, Iraq etc. and that worse violence has occurred in Lebanon, Gaza and other countries but its exactly because the violence is so frequent there that it feels like another world to us, it's very hard to comprehend. Going to a rock concert or drinking at a bar on a Friday evening we can comprehend. There's more a feeling that that could have been us who went out to enjoy the start of the weekend and somehow ended up at the centre of a deadly terror attack.
I agree, it's too close to home these people are too like us for it not to have an impact.
Our norms, values, skin tone, are very similar.
arista
18-11-2015, 11:36 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/18/10/article-3323196-2E8ECDCF00000578-686_964x509.jpg
Terrorist Made to go Naked as they pull him out
Kizzy
18-11-2015, 11:47 AM
Is this in France, are the police British?
The Russian people were at a holiday destination very popular with people in the UK, they were travelling on a plane on their way home, the same as everyone else does. Plenty there for everyone to identify and associate with.
Russia are in there fighting ISIS, that's why they were targeted, and those with the same goals went .... ho hum
Cherie
18-11-2015, 01:15 PM
The Russian people were at a holiday destination very popular with people in the UK, they were travelling on a plane on their way home, the same as everyone else does. Plenty there for everyone to identify and associate with.
Russia are in there fighting ISIS, that's why they were targeted, and those with the same goals went .... ho hum
Yeah I get the argument on Ankara, but a plane load of tourists on their way home from a popular British tourist destination :shrug: would it have received more outrage if the passengers were French not Russian, pretty disgusting really, how can we not identify with that ?
Cherie
18-11-2015, 01:17 PM
I agree, it's too close to home these people are too like us for it not to have an impact.
Our norms, values, skin tone, are very similar.
Our skin tone? Last time I checked Russians were white!
Kizzy
18-11-2015, 01:37 PM
Our skin tone? Last time I checked Russians were white!
I didn't say they weren't!
The post I quoted didn't mention Russians, maybe I should just state for clarification other white Europeans then?
I think the Russian plane bomb did provoke quite a big outpouring of sympathy. Like you pointed out though Cherie, it wasn't clear in the days after what had caused it whereas the Paris attacks unfolded in front of our eyes and indeed the operation still goes on with all of us watching: it's still not clear if the mastermind has been caught or is still out there. You're right there is plenty to associate with in the attack on Rusia which is why that bomb has in turn got more coverage than the Ankara attack did. Fact remains that the Paris attack took place on our doorstep though, on European soil, whereas Egypt might be a popular holiday destination but it has battled Islamist insurgency for decades.
No one death is more tragic than the other but I don't think there's any agenda behind the coverage that different attacks get or the impact that it has on people. Such things are dependent on a number of different, complicated factors, it's a bit simplistic to reduce it down to a death toll and conclude a lack of sympathy for Russian citizens by that.
Cherie
18-11-2015, 01:55 PM
I didn't say they weren't!
The post I quoted didn't mention Russians, maybe I should just state for clarification other white Europeans then?
Were You were talking about the French. A significant proportion of whom are black! I think skin tone has nothing to do with it
Kizzy
18-11-2015, 01:56 PM
Destroy IS or accept it is a world power'
Posted at 13:47
Col Richard Kemp, the former head of the international terrorism team at the UK's Joint Intelligence Committee, tells BBC News events in and around Paris over the past few days underline "the real seriousness of the problem that France faces".
President Hollande was right to say the country was at war, he adds, and the conflict needs to be "fought like a war".
Talking about actions in Syria and Iraq, he says Western countries will not be able to defeat so-called Islamic State from the air alone - ground action will be needed too.
And he adds that France and its allies need to destroy IS or accept they will become a world power for years to come.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-34840858
Cherie
18-11-2015, 01:58 PM
I think the Russian plane bomb did provoke quite a big outpouring of sympathy. Like you pointed out though Cherie, it wasn't clear in the days after what had caused it whereas the Paris attacks unfolded in front of our eyes and indeed the operation still goes on with all of us watching: it's still not clear if the mastermind has been caught or is still out there. You're right there is plenty to associate with in the attack on Rusia which is why that bomb has in turn got more coverage than the Ankara attack did. Fact remains that the Paris attack took place on our doorstep though, on European soil, whereas Egypt might be a popular holiday destination but it has battled Islamist insurgency for decades.
No one death is more tragic than the other but I don't think there's any agenda behind the coverage that different attacks get or the impact that it has on people. Such things are dependent on a number of different, complicated factors, it's a bit simplistic to reduce it down to a death toll and conclude a lack of sympathy for Russian citizens by that.
Is anyone surprised by an attack though I just wonder what has taken them so long to attack a football ground and a music venue :shrug: maybe it was the brutality of the attacks that have resonated, gunning people down one by one in a music hall is pretty grim, we are used to bombs on planes I guess
Kizzy
18-11-2015, 02:03 PM
Were You were talking about the French. A significant proportion of whom are black! I think skin tone has nothing to do with it
I think you're misunderstanding my point, that being terrorist activity in other parts of the world, as mentioned in MTVNs post earlier...
'It's also a country that, for the vast majority of us, we're likely to have more affinity with and feel closer to than Ankara or Beirut. It's true that much worse violence goes on everyday in Syria, Iraq etc. and that worse violence has occurred in Lebanon, Gaza and other countries but its exactly because the violence is so frequent there that it feels like another world to us'.
I was not talking about the French or the Russians, I was agreeing with MTVN, that those who have shared norms, values and skin tone... other white Europeans receive our grief in the main as opposed to the rest of the world.
kirklancaster
18-11-2015, 03:36 PM
Our skin tone? Last time I checked Russians were white!
:laugh2: You are on form today Cherie. :laugh:
..I can only speak for myself with this and the comparison of the two... in the Paris attack, we were watching it live, many of us were and yes, obviously the whole attack and loss of life was shocking but it was also the hostage situation, which went on for several hours and trying to imagine how those people were feeling, how terrified they would be and also their families, friends who knew that they had gone to the concert..so it was like feeling it with them, not the same or nearly the same obviously but it wasn't an after event, it was something that was happening and unfolding before our eyes and a section of a city in terror...for me personally and how I related to it all, was that I had walked past those places and down those streets, stayed around 100 yards from where some people had been killed and when it's a familiar place I think that's a factor as well and I also have a niece who lives in Paris with her boyfriend so my thoughts were for their safety as well until I knew that they were ok.../but I don't think that I felt any differently about the loss of life or the families in the 'after' of Paris either as I did with the passengers and their families ...
Shaun
18-11-2015, 03:52 PM
Isn't the whole point about the lack of an outpouring of grief and international condemnation of the Russian plane bomb purely because it took a week or so, if not more, to 100% determine that it even was a bomb? I certainly recall the initial reports being "experts can't rule out a technical fault" rather than anything to do with terrorism.
Either way I find the whole "comparing acts of terrorism and tragedy" thing a tad perverse and sad.
arista
18-11-2015, 05:34 PM
Isn't the whole point about the lack of an outpouring of grief and international condemnation of the Russian plane bomb purely because it took a week or so, if not more, to 100% determine that it even was a bomb? I certainly recall the initial reports being "experts can't rule out a technical fault" rather than anything to do with terrorism.
Either way I find the whole "comparing acts of terrorism and tragedy" thing a tad perverse and sad.
Yes
Its Stone Cold on 5 News Feeds on 5 TV's
and 2 online
lewis111
18-11-2015, 08:02 PM
A 7 year old German Shepard police dog was killed by the terrorists this morning
#jesuischien is now trending
Kazanne
18-11-2015, 08:07 PM
A 7 year old German Shepard police dog was killed by the terrorists this morning
#jesuischien is now trending
Yes ,his name was Deisel,bless him,
http://www.chelseadogs.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/diesel-paris-attacks_0-808x500.jpg
http://www.chelseadogs.com/blog/police-dog-diesel-dies-trying-to-catch-terrorists-behind-paris-attacks/
He saved the life of his entire team apparently.Brave fella
Kizzy
18-11-2015, 08:11 PM
How is that possible, did they send the dog in as a decoy or something?
How is that possible, did they send the dog in as a decoy or something?
I *think* they always send the dogs in first incase they are hiding and have bombs etc..
arista
18-11-2015, 08:14 PM
How is that possible, did they send the dog in as a decoy or something?
As they did not know if the that
Evil woman was wearing a Bomb.
Sadly she was
Kazanne
18-11-2015, 08:14 PM
How is that possible, did they send the dog in as a decoy or something?
I think it was when the woman blew herself up Kizzy.
arista
18-11-2015, 08:15 PM
I think it was when the woman blew herself up Kizzy.
Yes the EVIL women did
So the main leader is still on the run then, hope they catch him soon.
arista
18-11-2015, 08:17 PM
So the main leader is still on the run then, hope they catch him soon.
Not if he is in Syria
lewis111
18-11-2015, 08:17 PM
So the main leader is still on the run then, hope they catch him soon.
They think he is but not 100% sure, it says his fate is still unknown. He was not arrested but the bodies have not been indentified (according to BBC news)
Kizzy
18-11-2015, 08:30 PM
Telegram, a privacy-minded messaging app that has been taken up by Isis militants, has blocked dozens of “Isis-related channels”, the company has announced.
The startup has been criticized in recent weeks for its use by extremists, and on Tuesday its founder, exile Russian tech mogul Pavel Durov, said: “I think the French government is as responsible as Isis for this, because it is their policies and carelessness which eventually led to the tragedy.”
In a Facebook post under a photo himself in Paris, Durov went on to blame “shortsighted socialists who ruin this beautiful place”.
“They take money away from hardworking people of France with outrageously high taxes and spend them on waging useless wars in the Middle East and on creating parasitic social paradise for North African immigrants.
It is a disgrace to see Paris in the hands of shortsighted socialists who ruin this beautiful place. I hope they and their policies go away forever and this city will once again shine in its full glory .”
:/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/18/paris-attacks-suspected-mastermind-abdel-hamid-abu-oud-was-target-of-raids-latest-news
Denver
18-11-2015, 08:30 PM
Not if he is in Syria
Was he not said to be living in Paris hence the raid on this house?
empire
18-11-2015, 09:15 PM
the left wing parties, in europe have pushed people so far with the refugees and soft pandering, that I fear that the far right will use the bomb and bullet, for revenge, and I believe that it will happen soon, they could easily attack 8 mosques, in paris,on a day for praying, and spray gun the place down, and even throw grenades, and with it alot of dead in one day, the french people have had enough and they will use the bullet if they are forced,
Kizzy
18-11-2015, 09:57 PM
That is such a terrifying thing to say..... is that what it's coming to a total breakdown of civillised society? Mob justice, revenge attacks. What a horrifying prospect.
kirklancaster
18-11-2015, 09:58 PM
Yes ,his name was Deisel,bless him,
http://www.chelseadogs.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/diesel-paris-attacks_0-808x500.jpg
http://www.chelseadogs.com/blog/police-dog-diesel-dies-trying-to-catch-terrorists-behind-paris-attacks/
He saved the life of his entire team apparently.Brave fella
That one dog is worth the lives of every scumbag terrorist that walked this Earth.
the left wing parties, in europe have pushed people so far with the refugees and soft pandering, that I fear that the far right will use the bomb and bullet, for revenge, and I believe that it will happen soon, they could easily attack 8 mosques, in paris,on a day for praying, and spray gun the place down, and even throw grenades, and with it alot of dead in one day, the french people have had enough and they will use the bullet if they are forced,
I think you do the French people a great disservice. Of all countries, France is probably one of if not the most racially tolerant country on the planet.
kirklancaster
18-11-2015, 10:09 PM
Telegram, a privacy-minded messaging app that has been taken up by Isis militants, has blocked dozens of “Isis-related channels”, the company has announced.
The startup has been criticized in recent weeks for its use by extremists, and on Tuesday its founder, exile Russian tech mogul Pavel Durov, said: “I think the French government is as responsible as Isis for this, because it is their policies and carelessness which eventually led to the tragedy.”
In a Facebook post under a photo himself in Paris, Durov went on to blame “shortsighted socialists who ruin this beautiful place”.
“They take money away from hardworking people of France with outrageously high taxes and spend them on waging useless wars in the Middle East and on creating parasitic social paradise for North African immigrants.
It is a disgrace to see Paris in the hands of shortsighted socialists who ruin this beautiful place. I hope they and their policies go away forever and this city will once again shine in its full glory .”
:/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/18/paris-attacks-suspected-mastermind-abdel-hamid-abu-oud-was-target-of-raids-latest-news
The guy is a ******* cretin - ISIS do not give two hoots for Left Wing, Right Wing or Centre, Right or Wrong, Justice, Truth , or beauty.
Has he seen the ancient Syrian site of Palmyra?
This is BEYOND our petty politics, beyond our bedlief in God or Richard Dawkins, beyond any notions we have of fair play and justice - there is but ONE common enemy, and it is an enemy who will not stop until they are completely eradicated or they triumph.
All the Western leaders now have a choice to make - go all out to destroy them without fear of being labelled 'NOT PC' or murderers by terrorist loving wankers, or pack in and GIVE UP our COUNTRIES to these insane bastards so that we can all kneel down and incline our heads ready for the sword.
If this happens, I just hope that I personally live long enough to see all the bleeding hearts get theirs first.
Kizzy
18-11-2015, 10:39 PM
The guy is a ******* cretin - ISIS do not give two hoots for Left Wing, Right Wing or Centre, Right or Wrong, Justice, Truth , or beauty.
Has he seen the ancient Syrian site of Palmyra?
This is BEYOND our petty politics, beyond our bedlief in God or Richard Dawkins, beyond any notions we have of fair play and justice - there is but ONE common enemy, and it is an enemy who will not stop until they are completely eradicated or they triumph.
All the Western leaders now have a choice to make - go all out to destroy them without fear of being labelled 'NOT PC' or murderers by terrorist loving wankers, or pack in and GIVE UP our COUNTRIES to these insane bastards so that we can all kneel down and incline our heads ready for the sword.
If this happens, I just hope that I personally live long enough to see all the bleeding hearts get theirs first.
They are acting... Why are you quoting me then ranting about PC terrorist lovers and bleeding hearts?
I don't share your views and would prefer it if you direct them at someone else.
arista
18-11-2015, 10:56 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/18/07/2E8D4A0E00000578-3323196-Operation_Police_and_the_French_army_pictured_have _surrounded_a_-a-25_1447831132779.jpg
As well as Special Police
Army on Patrol as well.
No one can beat this lot
empire
18-11-2015, 11:24 PM
marine le pen looks set to gain in the french president election, next year,
kirklancaster
19-11-2015, 12:38 AM
They are acting... Why are you quoting me then ranting about PC terrorist lovers and bleeding hearts?
I don't share your views and would prefer it if you direct them at someone else.
:laugh: I was commenting on the article you pasted. If you don't want to elicit comments on a forum then don't paste articles on it. And as long as you don't share my views then I know I am on the right track with mine.
Kizzy
19-11-2015, 12:47 AM
I wouldn't have thought that article would illicit that response, nothing should surprise me ...and yet here I am again.
lostalex
19-11-2015, 01:25 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/18/07/2E8D4A0E00000578-3323196-Operation_Police_and_the_French_army_pictured_have _surrounded_a_-a-25_1447831132779.jpg
As well as Special Police
Army on Patrol as well.
No one can beat this lot
is it just me or do they look a bit lost? lol if that's the best lot... they look like the army version of Police Academy lol does one of them have a talent for imitating sounds?
Kazanne
19-11-2015, 01:35 AM
That one dog is worth the lives of every scumbag terrorist that walked this Earth.
:clap1::clap1:
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
19-11-2015, 06:46 AM
WW3 or rapture....:conf:
DemolitionRed
19-11-2015, 08:51 AM
Is this in France, are the police British?
They are the 'Police Nationale' which is the civilian police force in France. You are probably thinking 'Gendarmerie' who are military police that we tend to see in airports.
Kizzy
19-11-2015, 09:58 AM
They are the 'Police Nationale' which is the civilian police force in France. You are probably thinking 'Gendarmerie' who are military police that we tend to see in airports.
I had no Idea 'police' was a French word :)
Locke.
19-11-2015, 12:47 PM
They got him!!!!!
667322013879406596
arista
19-11-2015, 12:48 PM
Yes Good News in that
Niamh.
19-11-2015, 12:54 PM
Good news
Cherie
19-11-2015, 12:55 PM
They got him!!!!!
667322013879406596
:clap1: not so smug now
Denver
19-11-2015, 01:00 PM
Great news
Northern Monkey
19-11-2015, 01:07 PM
Good news.The French authorities are good with this kind of attack.I saw doc about Charlie Hebdo and they handled the situation very well when they captured those terrorists.
Crimson Dynamo
19-11-2015, 01:08 PM
pity he was not captured prior to the attack
Denver
19-11-2015, 01:10 PM
pity he was not captured prior to the attack
There was no way they was catching this one alive
arista
19-11-2015, 02:09 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/19/13/article-3324971-2E99EAA500000578-611_964x520.jpg
DemolitionRed
19-11-2015, 02:16 PM
I had no Idea 'police' was a French word :)
Most of our words to do with établissement and authority are borrowed from the French! :)
DemolitionRed
19-11-2015, 02:17 PM
They got him!!!!!
667322013879406596
Thank goodness
Kizzy
19-11-2015, 03:44 PM
Much has been said about the asymmetry of western grief, which weeps for Paris and shrugs at blasts in Beirut or Baghdad. But that is not the only disparity in the way the east and west reacts in the face of terrorist attacks. When terror strikes the west, it is rare that just tears flow. The blood of those we bomb flows, too.
Like many, I shed tears for Paris. I have lived there and spent much of the weekend grieving with friends who know and love the city. But our grief was interrupted by a declaration of what French president François Hollande called a “pitiless war”. Blood was being demanded.
Hollande said: “Terrorism will not destroy the Republic, because the Republic will destroy it.”
His first statement is correct. Terrorism will not destroy France; Isis’s black flag will never fly over the Assemblée Nationale. As foreign policy expert Stephen M Walt recently argued in Foreign Affairs, Isis neither has an ideology contagious enough to topple stable governments through popular revolution, nor the firepower to spread its ideas through conquest. Isis, in other words, poses no existential threat to the western world.'
Is this true?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/shed-more-tears-when-west-attacked-more-blood-paris-attacks-hollande?CMP=fb_gu
Much has been said about the asymmetry of western grief, which weeps for Paris and shrugs at blasts in Beirut or Baghdad. But that is not the only disparity in the way the east and west reacts in the face of terrorist attacks. When terror strikes the west, it is rare that just tears flow. The blood of those we bomb flows, too.
Like many, I shed tears for Paris. I have lived there and spent much of the weekend grieving with friends who know and love the city. But our grief was interrupted by a declaration of what French president François Hollande called a “pitiless war”. Blood was being demanded.
Hollande said: “Terrorism will not destroy the Republic, because the Republic will destroy it.”
His first statement is correct. Terrorism will not destroy France; Isis’s black flag will never fly over the Assemblée Nationale. As foreign policy expert Stephen M Walt recently argued in Foreign Affairs, Isis neither has an ideology contagious enough to topple stable governments through popular revolution, nor the firepower to spread its ideas through conquest. Isis, in other words, poses no existential threat to the western world.'
Is this true?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/shed-more-tears-when-west-attacked-more-blood-paris-attacks-hollande?CMP=fb_gu
In an ideal world its probably true, but the reality is quite different. The problem being that if ISIS penetrated a western democracy to any level, it would disband the concepts of what democracy is all about. People just wouldn't have the opportunity to voice there opinion as any opposition would be summarily wiped out.
Niamh.
20-11-2015, 09:47 AM
She doesn't look like she's following all the laws of Islam dressed like she is in those pictures
She doesn't look like she's following all the laws of Islam dressed like she is in those pictures
I thought exactly the same. It implies some recent form of radicalisation.
Niamh.
20-11-2015, 10:42 AM
I thought exactly the same. It implies some recent form of radicalisation.
Was it her brother that was the main "brains" behind the Paris attacks? What goes on in peoples minds?
kirklancaster
20-11-2015, 10:45 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/19/13/article-3324971-2E99EAA500000578-611_964x520.jpg
He looks like all those caricatures and cartoons of mad Arabs - a demented grinning camel. God Rot His Black Soul. Good Riddance.
smudgie
20-11-2015, 11:03 AM
He looks like all those caricatures and cartoons of mad Arabs - a demented grinning camel. God Rot His Black Soul. Good Riddance.
Aye, well he has had that smile blown off his face..in fact I reckon there wasn't much left of his face.
Evil bstd, may he rot in hell.
arista
20-11-2015, 11:10 AM
She doesn't look like she's following all the laws of Islam dressed like she is in those pictures
No she took Drugs and Sex
and was not as problem
As she was on the Mission of a
Walking Bomb
but the Dog went in first
and she pulled the cord.
And the Dog went to heaven (if there is one)
And she went right Down to Hell
Niamh.
20-11-2015, 11:12 AM
No she took Drugs and Sex
and was not as problem
As she was on the Mission of a
Walking Bomb
but the Dog went in first
and she pulled the cord.
And the Dog went to heaven (if there is one)
And she went right Down to Hell
weird, she clearly didn't actually believe much of their ideology then? Was she just a lunatic with a death wish not even pretending to have a cause?
coffee
20-11-2015, 11:19 AM
Also, "Mastermind" man is butt ugly and I hate him. The evil bomber woman sounds like a freak for not actually being a believer just a blood-hungry scary bitch???
The most horrific thing is, even though "Mastermind" is dead, more attacks will happen and we will have a new mastermind to find :(
RIP everyone who died in the attacks.
coffee
20-11-2015, 11:23 AM
sor
sorry it posted twice.
Niamh.
20-11-2015, 11:24 AM
t'besure t'besure
DemolitionRed
20-11-2015, 11:39 AM
Yes, that is her in western clothes lighting a candle for the dead.
I've read that she never practised any faith, was a heavy drinker, promiscuous and a party animal until a few weeks ago when she suddenly started wearing Muslim style clothing.
It was her cousin who was behind all this. Her brothers, one who is disabled had nothing to do with it.
Niamh.
20-11-2015, 11:42 AM
Yes, that is her in western clothes lighting a candle for the dead.
I've read that she never practised any faith, was a heavy drinker, promiscuous and a party animal until a few weeks ago when she suddenly started wearing Muslim style clothing.
It was her cousin who was behind all this. Her brothers, one who is disabled had nothing to do with it.
You have to wonder what the hell goes through a persons mind to make them decide to give up their freedoms and life all of a sudden like that
t'besure t'besure
i thought for a moment you were displaying your knowledge of French ... then I remembered where you are from :laugh:
Niamh.
20-11-2015, 11:46 AM
i thought for a moment you were displaying your knowledge of French ... then I remembered where you are from :laugh:
:fan:
Denver
20-11-2015, 11:52 AM
It's a shame when young people with a free life to anything decide to become a Jihadi
Jordan.
20-11-2015, 11:54 AM
:umm2: that is not the suicide bomber. It's a woman that worked in a cafe that was attacked that survived and protected people
Niamh.
20-11-2015, 11:55 AM
Oh for Gods sake, Arista :fist:
Denver
20-11-2015, 11:57 AM
http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/586000/620x/Hasna-Ait-Boulahcen-476694.jpg
That's her
Jordan.
20-11-2015, 11:59 AM
No they're not
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3326268/Heroine-waitress-Paris-cafe-attack-recalls-horrific-night-selfless-act-comfort-victims.html
Niamh.
20-11-2015, 11:59 AM
They look different to me Adam
arista
20-11-2015, 11:59 AM
Oh for Gods sake, Arista :fist:
Sorry Big Error
Denver
20-11-2015, 12:00 PM
Must just be me then (I'm still tired:hmph:)
arista
20-11-2015, 12:00 PM
:umm2: that is not the suicide bomber. It's a woman that worked in a cafe that was attacked that survived and protected people
Thank you for Correcting Me
Jordan
I have Deleted the Original post
Niamh.
20-11-2015, 12:01 PM
The same comments could apply to the actual woman though, I'm going to remove some posts here, I don't want people thinking that first woman was the bomber
Denver
20-11-2015, 12:01 PM
Also I'm not sure if its been mentioned but just heard on the news a 3rd body was found in the flat
arista
20-11-2015, 12:03 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/19/12/2E9568E300000578-3325180-Two_fingers_This_is_the_first_picture_of_Hasna_Ait boulahcen_the_-m-56_1447934489467.jpg
The Evil Suicide Woman
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3325180/Two-fingers-world-Pictured-Europe-s-female-suicide-bomber-booze-loving-extrovert-nicknamed-Cowgirl-love-big-hats.html
DemolitionRed
20-11-2015, 12:03 PM
You have to wonder what the hell goes through a persons mind to make them decide to give up their freedoms and life all of a sudden like that
I just tried to find the article with no success. Apparently she was raised in kids homes and with foster parents in Paris and had little contact with her mum. It also sounds like her childhood was full of violence and as an adult she had quite a hollow existence.
Now before someone jumps in and suggests I'm sympathising, I'm not; lots of adults have been through traumatic childhoods and grew up to remain decent human beings. What I think in this case is, she's a perfect example of someone who gets easily radicalised. Radicalization to people like her give them a sense of belonging.
DemolitionRed
20-11-2015, 12:08 PM
No they're not
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3326268/Heroine-waitress-Paris-cafe-attack-recalls-horrific-night-selfless-act-comfort-victims.html
OMG thanks for putting us right.
This is her and the article about her life. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3325180/Two-fingers-world-Pictured-Europe-s-female-suicide-bomber-booze-loving-extrovert-nicknamed-Cowgirl-love-big-hats.html
arista
20-11-2015, 12:08 PM
The same comments could apply to the actual woman though, I'm going to remove some posts here, I don't want people thinking that first woman was the bomber
Thank you for sorting my Error
And thanks again Jordan
Yes a Evil killer woman
that only killed that great dog, sadly
Niamh.
20-11-2015, 12:09 PM
I just tried to find the article with no success. Apparently she was raised in kids homes and with foster parents in Paris and had little contact with her mum. It also sounds like her childhood was full of violence and as an adult she had quite a hollow existence.
Now before someone jumps in and suggests I'm sympathising, I'm not; lots of adults have been through traumatic childhoods and grew up to remain decent human beings. What I think in this case is, she's a perfect example of someone who gets easily radicalised. Radicalization to people like her give them a sense of belonging.
I get what your saying, she must have desperately wanted somewhere to belong though to give up her life for it :/
DemolitionRed
20-11-2015, 12:15 PM
I get what your saying, she must have desperately wanted somewhere to belong though to give up her life for it :/
I haven't seen any other reports but if you read this one, it does make you wonder if she blew herself up.
Towards the bottom of the article she is drawn towards the door of the apartment and appears to be giving herself up. She doesn't display her face but she's told to keep her hands up, which the article says she does. The police tell her they are going to open fire (that's confusing because why would they tell her that?) and then she blows up.
Sounds to me like she was wearing a bomb belt and the police open fired on her and triggered the explosives. That, or someone within the flat held the trigger and exploded her but it doesn't sound like she was in any position to explode it herself at the moment of the blast.
Have a read and see what you think.
kirklancaster
20-11-2015, 12:23 PM
I just tried to find the article with no success. Apparently she was raised in kids homes and with foster parents in Paris and had little contact with her mum. It also sounds like her childhood was full of violence and as an adult she had quite a hollow existence.
Now before someone jumps in and suggests I'm sympathising, I'm not; lots of adults have been through traumatic childhoods and grew up to remain decent human beings. What I think in this case is, she's a perfect example of someone who gets easily radicalised. Radicalization to people like her give them a sense of belonging.
I get what you're saying too Red - and no, I don't regard this as 'sympathising' with terrorsists, just analysing one possible reason for her becoming a terrorist.
coffee
20-11-2015, 12:27 PM
Awww! She's the woman in the video, Oh, I feel really bad now!
Well, all my previous comments are obviously for the evil bomber and not the heavenly saint waitress. Wow, like being a waitress isn't hard enough, now she's saving lives.
Niamh.
20-11-2015, 12:38 PM
Awww! She's the woman in the video, Oh, I feel really bad now!
Well, all my previous comments are obviously for the evil bomber and not the heavenly saint waitress. Wow, like being a waitress isn't hard enough, now she's saving lives.
I think all our comments could be applied to the actual bomber
empire
20-11-2015, 08:21 PM
it does seem strange that she has a very western lifestyle, and she drank and went to night clubs, and dressed up like any girl in the west, and had lots of boyfriends, but I doubt that they are white french men, because white french men wouldn't touch an arab woman with a barge pole, thats what most of them told me, I think she might of been forced into it, I don't know how but I think she was forced on the plank of wood on the ship at knife point,
arista
21-11-2015, 09:27 AM
it does seem strange that she has a very western lifestyle, and she drank and went to night clubs, and dressed up like any girl in the west, and had lots of boyfriends, but I doubt that they are white french men, because white french men wouldn't touch an arab woman with a barge pole, thats what most of them told me, I think she might of been forced into it, I don't know how but I think she was forced on the plank of wood on the ship at knife point,
Yes thats true of many White Catholic French
there are a few exceptions , of course
kirklancaster
21-11-2015, 09:39 AM
It is all really so irrelevant compared to the highly delightful fact that the bitch is dead. Gone. Deceased. Snuffed it - She is a dead parrot. I mean terrorist.
it does seem strange that she has a very western lifestyle, and she drank and went to night clubs, and dressed up like any girl in the west, and had lots of boyfriends, but I doubt that they are white french men, because white french men wouldn't touch an arab woman with a barge pole, thats what most of them told me, I think she might of been forced into it, I don't know how but I think she was forced on the plank of wood on the ship at knife point,
....hmmmm. I don't think that it does seem strange, not to me anyway..the same with Jihidi John and the beheadings..it's not only a message of saying 'we are among you, so be terrorised'..but also a 'mocking' thing...we even have you killing yourselves....and with suicide bombers like this, well you're completely dispensable, you've served your purpose/we so easily radicalised you/you've killed/goodnight...
SharkAttack
21-11-2015, 10:09 AM
....hmmmm. I don't think that it does seem strange, not to me anyway..the same with Jihidi John and the beheadings..it's not only a message of saying 'we are among you, so be terrorised'..but also a 'mocking' thing...we even have you killing yourselves....and with suicide bombers like this, well you're completely dispensable, you've served your purpose/we so easily radicalised you/you've killed/goodnight...
Totally agreed, Ammi. That's what they do. They "take," train, and use people that most would assume would never perform such atrocities toward their own neighborhoods/communities. :nosmilie:
Nedusa
21-11-2015, 10:25 AM
....hmmmm. I don't think that it does seem strange, not to me anyway..the same with Jihidi John and the beheadings..it's not only a message of saying 'we are among you, so be terrorised'..but also a 'mocking' thing...we even have you killing yourselves....and with suicide bombers like this, well you're completely dispensable, you've served your purpose/we so easily radicalised you/you've killed/goodnight...
To be honest most Muslims and Arabs who profess to hate the western decadent lifestyle and abhor alcohol,drugs,sex,gambling seem to seek out and indulge in those very things to excess when they are temporarily freed from the shackles of their death religion.
Utter hypocrisy in the extreme proving that they have no real interest in their religion only the aspects that deal with death, murder, hate and torture...
kirklancaster
21-11-2015, 11:06 AM
To be honest most Muslims and Arabs who profess to hate the western decadent lifestyle and abhor alcohol,drugs,sex,gambling seem to seek out and indulge in those very things to excess when they are temporarily freed from the shackles of their death religion.
Utter hypocrisy in the extreme proving that they have no real interest in their religion only the aspects that deal with death, murder, hate and torture...
:clap1::clap1::clap1:
...to be honest most Christians..(and other religions as well because why should they be let off with it for goodness sake..) who profess to show love, tolerance, non-judging of others, forgiveness, turning the other cheek etc etc and trying to live their lives in their 'God's image of good'... will themselves indulge in a bit of murder, death, hate, torture etc if temporarily freed from their religious shackles.../utter hypocrites....
....no..?../indeed no, equally as much a false statement...we are not talking religion, we are talking extreme terrorists...
kirklancaster
21-11-2015, 11:48 AM
...to be honest most Christians..(and other religions as well because why should they be let off with it for goodness sake..) who profess to show love, tolerance, non-judging of others, forgiveness, turning the other cheek etc etc and trying to live their lives in their 'God's image of good'... will themselves indulge in a bit of murder, death, hate, torture etc if temporarily freed from their religious shackles.../utter hypocrites....
....no..?../indeed no, equally as much a false statement...we are not talking religion, we are talking extreme terrorists...
:laugh: Is this the Princess being devious? No matter - you are absolutely right - Hypocrisy reigns in ALL religions.
Kizzy
21-11-2015, 12:42 PM
I think people like her with no family support network and those disaffected are targeted by recruiters for radicalisation, like a scientist training a beagle.
Vicky.
21-11-2015, 12:56 PM
I'm getting grief on FB for changing my profile picture to the supporting Paris coloured one. Because I dont care about an attack in Lebanon that happened that I didn't even ****ing know about...and an earthquake I also didn't know about
Tragedies top trumps it seems :bored:
arista
21-11-2015, 01:31 PM
I'm getting grief on FB for changing my profile picture to the supporting Paris coloured one. Because I dont care about an attack in Lebanon that happened that I didn't even ****ing know about...and an earthquake I also didn't know about
Tragedies top trumps it seems :bored:
No need to have a Flag
Life Is To Short
Vicky.
21-11-2015, 01:32 PM
Oh my picture has changed back now automatically (had it set for a week). It now looks like I gave in to the torrent of abuse :laugh:
Kizzy
21-11-2015, 01:39 PM
Time for a FB cull.... hehehe
arista
21-11-2015, 06:37 PM
Russia Sends France Puppy In Solidarity
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/21/431361/default/v2/cegrab-20151121-114905-687-1-736x414.jpg
[The puppy - named Dobrynya - is intended
to replace French police dog Diesel,
who was killed during an anti-terrorism raid
in Paris in the days after the attacks.]
I hope he passes the tests
and becomes another life Saver.
http://news.sky.com/story/1591635/russia-sends-france-puppy-in-solidarity
video on the link
Good Luck Little Fella
Kazanne
21-11-2015, 06:45 PM
Totally agreed, Ammi. That's what they do. They "take," train, and use people that most would assume would never perform such atrocities toward their own neighborhoods/communities. :nosmilie:
Nice to see you post again SharkAttack:wavey:
Kazanne
21-11-2015, 06:59 PM
Best way to deal with terrorists
http://i.imgur.com/quNVODH.gif
Russia Sends France Puppy In Solidarity
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/21/431361/default/v2/cegrab-20151121-114905-687-1-736x414.jpg
[The puppy - named Dobrynya - is intended
to replace French police dog Diesel,
who was killed during an anti-terrorism raid
in Paris in the days after the attacks.]
I hope he passes the tests
and becomes another life Saver.
http://news.sky.com/story/1591635/russia-sends-france-puppy-in-solidarity
video on the link
Good Luck Little Fella
he is adorable :love:
lewis111
21-11-2015, 07:06 PM
Russia Sends France Puppy In Solidarity
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/21/431361/default/v2/cegrab-20151121-114905-687-1-736x414.jpg
[The puppy - named Dobrynya - is intended
to replace French police dog Diesel,
who was killed during an anti-terrorism raid
in Paris in the days after the attacks.]
I hope he passes the tests
and becomes another life Saver.
http://news.sky.com/story/1591635/russia-sends-france-puppy-in-solidarity
video on the link
Good Luck Little Fella
:love:
Jordan.
21-11-2015, 07:15 PM
Russia Sends France Puppy In Solidarity
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/21/431361/default/v2/cegrab-20151121-114905-687-1-736x414.jpg
[The puppy - named Dobrynya - is intended
to replace French police dog Diesel,
who was killed during an anti-terrorism raid
in Paris in the days after the attacks.]
I hope he passes the tests
and becomes another life Saver.
http://news.sky.com/story/1591635/russia-sends-france-puppy-in-solidarity
video on the link
Good Luck Little Fella
This is cute
DemolitionRed
21-11-2015, 07:27 PM
That puppy is such a cute fuzzy bear!
empire
21-11-2015, 08:56 PM
the problem is that the eu is a false dream, that even the leaders have a thinking that, says nobody turns their back on paradise, because in europe their is no war or disease, and know one is going hungry, the eu is like the federation from star trek, because the reasons why they put refugees first, is that, they want countries like iraq,syria, and lebanon, to be members of the eu state, and the europhiles want an open door with no borders, because these countries have a population that will replace the current in europe, but it has backfired, because they thought by throwing candy, most will support the eu, when they set foot, one thing that is for sure, the open door policy will kill are paradise, because the governments in the eu where the one's that gave weapons to these people to overthrow a secular country.
arista
21-11-2015, 10:45 PM
[Belgian ISIS 'scout' for Paris attacks is arrested
in five star Turkish hotel while preparing to flee over the border to Syria ]
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3328350/Turkish-police-arrest-Belgian-man-Moroccan-descent-allegations-scouted-Paris-terror-attack-sites.html#ixzz3sAVrJcIn
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/21/14/2EA98CC900000578-0-Caught_Counter_terrorism_police_first_became_aware _of_Ahmet_Dahm-a-2_1448117726934.jpg
kirklancaster
21-11-2015, 10:58 PM
[Belgian ISIS 'scout' for Paris attacks is arrested
in five star Turkish hotel while preparing to flee over the border to Syria ]
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3328350/Turkish-police-arrest-Belgian-man-Moroccan-descent-allegations-scouted-Paris-terror-attack-sites.html#ixzz3sAVrJcIn
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/21/14/2EA98CC900000578-0-Caught_Counter_terrorism_police_first_became_aware _of_Ahmet_Dahm-a-2_1448117726934.jpg
I am literally sick of seeing their ******* faces. I hope the **** is tortured until he spews everything he knows. Then shoot him.
kirklancaster
21-11-2015, 11:00 PM
the problem is that the eu is a false dream, that even the leaders have a thinking that, says nobody turns their back on paradise, because in europe their is no war or disease, and know one is going hungry, the eu is like the federation from star trek, because the reasons why they put refugees first, is that, they want countries like iraq,syria, and lebanon, to be members of the eu state, and the europhiles want an open door with no borders, because these countries have a population that will replace the current in europe, but it has backfired, because they thought by throwing candy, most will support the eu, when they set foot, one thing that is for sure, the open door policy will kill are paradise, because the governments in the eu where the one's that gave weapons to these people to overthrow a secular country.
:clap1::clap1::clap1: Again - another lot of truth in what you are saying Empire.
lostalex
21-11-2015, 11:01 PM
it does seem strange that she has a very western lifestyle, and she drank and went to night clubs, and dressed up like any girl in the west, and had lots of boyfriends, but I doubt that they are white french men, because white french men wouldn't touch an arab woman with a barge pole, thats what most of them told me, I think she might of been forced into it, I don't know how but I think she was forced on the plank of wood on the ship at knife point,
it's not strange, religious people are always hypocrites. remember in bb9 where Mo was always drinking and smoking, but he insisted on Halal food on the shopping budget? it makes no sense.
lewis111
27-11-2015, 10:35 PM
Exactly 2 weeks since reports came in of the attacks
Memorial held in Paris today
Kizzy
15-01-2016, 01:17 PM
A letter has been posted on Facebook revealing the UK Foreign Office has not designated the recent Paris attacks as terrorism – so as to avoid paying out compensation to victims.
Is the UK – apart from ISIS itself – the only state in the world which has not yet decided the Paris attacks were an act of terrorism?
http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2016/01/15/paris-attacks-not-designated-as-terrorism-by-uk-government-to-save-money-prides-purge/
arista
15-01-2016, 02:32 PM
A letter has been posted on Facebook revealing the UK Foreign Office has not designated the recent Paris attacks as terrorism – so as to avoid paying out compensation to victims.
Is the UK – apart from ISIS itself – the only state in the world which has not yet decided the Paris attacks were an act of terrorism?
http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2016/01/15/paris-attacks-not-designated-as-terrorism-by-uk-government-to-save-money-prides-purge/
"A letter on facebook"
thank you for being honest on your source.
It was not on The Daily Politics Today
Will it be on my CH4HD 7PM News tonight?
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