View Full Version : Paedo Stuart Hall released EARLY after decades of molesting young children
Gusto Brunt
16-12-2015, 06:30 PM
He served just two years in jail, and that was only because his first sentence was increased because even that was lenient.
You couldn't make it up. An old pervert molesting more than 13 young girls as young as 9 years old, for decades, gets just 2 years imprisonment. That's only one more year than for not paying your TV license. :shocked:
Is a child's innocence really worth so very little?
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/paedophile-stuart-hall-released-prison-150329240.html
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JoshBB
16-12-2015, 06:32 PM
Abhorrent.. whoever made this decision should be sacked.
Crimson Dynamo
16-12-2015, 06:32 PM
he should have been shot in the back of his head and his carcass immediately incinerated
why we go to the bother with some people I dont know, this perversion exists and those who participate should be executed swiftly and cheaply
JoshBB
16-12-2015, 06:35 PM
he should have been shot in the back of his head and his carcass immediately incinerated
why we go to the bother with some people I dont know, this perversion exists and those who participate should be executed swiftly and cheaply
Ah yes.. state-sponsored murder.. that'll sure teach people to stick to the rules!!! :umm2:
Crimson Dynamo
16-12-2015, 06:36 PM
Ah yes.. state-sponsored murder.. that'll sure teach people to stick to the rules!!! :umm2:
You cannot teach a paedophile to stick to rules as their sexual proclivity lives outside the "rules"
Gusto Brunt
16-12-2015, 06:37 PM
Not only does he sicken me but the so called 'justice' system stinks. :mad:
JoshBB
16-12-2015, 06:38 PM
You cannot teach a paedophile to stick to rules as their sexual proclivity lives outside the "rules"
My point exactly. How can we tell someone to live by the law if we're going to kill those who don't - which would mean the government breaking the same rules it set out?
Life Sentences exist for perverts like this man.
Crimson Dynamo
16-12-2015, 06:39 PM
My point exactly. How can we tell someone to live by the law if we're going to kill those who don't - which would mean the government breaking the same rules it set out?
Life Sentences exist for perverts like this man.
No because the execution by the state would be legal
me shooting him would not
JoshBB
16-12-2015, 06:42 PM
No because the execution by the state would be legal
me shooting him would not
Murder is murder, regardless of who does it.
Crimson Dynamo
16-12-2015, 06:43 PM
Murder is murder, regardless of who does it.
and our soldiers are murderers?
:umm2:
arista
16-12-2015, 06:43 PM
Yes he got Lucky.
At Least he can no longer rape children
And his Wife stands with him.
Jamie89
16-12-2015, 06:56 PM
OMG I never knew this...
"The court was limited to sentencing according to the law at the time of the offence"
This is disgraceful. With something like paedophilia especially, it shouldn't matter when it was committed. He should be sentenced in accordance with the laws at the time of sentencing, based on our current understanding of the crime. Not outdated laws that were changed for good reason! The message here is that he's partly excused for his actions because what? Society at that time was partly to blame? He's as much of a pervert as anyone committing paedophilia now under our current laws and the sentence should have reflected that.
Livia
16-12-2015, 07:08 PM
He was released in accordance with English law. No one is "to blame".
arista
16-12-2015, 07:13 PM
He was released in accordance with English law. No one is "to blame".
Yes Very True
Livia
Jamie89
16-12-2015, 07:26 PM
He was released in accordance with English law. No one is "to blame".
Why is sentencing based on the law at the time of the crime rather than the time of sentencing though Livia? I don't understand the logic of that, at least not when it comes to things like paedophilia.
joeysteele
16-12-2015, 08:23 PM
Why is sentencing based on the law at the time of the crime rather than the time of sentencing though Livia? I don't understand the logic of that, at least not when it comes to things like paedophilia.
It shouldn't be but it is sadly and it seems the law stays in its archaic trap.
It annoys me when I see people who have committed financial crimes often serving far longer sentences than those with crimes like this, who commit crimes on children and those who even murder or maim people.
Fill the prisons with such people who have the violent tendencies and don't clog them them up with those who are not violent in any way,.
Why is sentencing based on the law at the time of the crime rather than the time of sentencing though Livia? I don't understand the logic of that, at least not when it comes to things like paedophilia.
Because a trial could be delayed while a law was altered to change the punishment for the crime. So, basically to avoid corruption.
Jamie89
16-12-2015, 08:56 PM
It shouldn't be but it is sadly and it seems the law stays in its archaic trap.
It annoys me when I see people who have committed financial crimes often serving far longer sentences than those with crimes like this, who commit crimes on children and those who even murder or maim people.
Fill the prisons with such people who have the violent tendencies and don't clog them them up with those who are not violent in any way,.
Couldn't agree more!
Because a trial could be delayed while a law was altered to change the punishment for the crime. So, basically to avoid corruption.
I never really thought about that tbh. I don't know a LOT about the criminal justice system so at risk of making myself sound stupid lol, would it really be likely that that would happen? I mean surely it would be obvious if that was happening? And regardless, for crimes that were committed a long time ago, such as this one, sentencing based on the laws at the time of the crime doesn't really fit with this explanation, as the laws changed before he was charged. Maybe a better way of doing things actually, would be to sentence people based on the laws at the time of them being charged instead to get round the corruption issue you mentioned :think:
Couldn't agree more!
I never really thought about that tbh. I don't know a LOT about the criminal justice system so at risk of making myself sound stupid lol, would it really be likely that that would happen? I mean surely it would be obvious if that was happening? And regardless, for crimes that were committed a long time ago, such as this one, sentencing based on the laws at the time of the crime doesn't really fit with this explanation, as the laws changed before he was charged. Maybe a better way of doing things actually, would be to sentence people based on the laws at the time of them being charged instead to get round the corruption issue you mentioned :think:
let me put it this way, you are driving your car, you need to get somewhere fast, so you think ... 3 points on my license, i will take the risk. 6 months later after you are caught, the law is changed and speeding is now a driving ban, would you still have committed the offence?
DemolitionRed
16-12-2015, 09:40 PM
http://www.criminallawandjustice.co.uk/features/Stuart-Hall%E2%80%99s-Sentence-Too-Low this fully explains why Hall got the sentence he did.
Kizzy
17-12-2015, 12:12 AM
Freemasons :idc:
Vicky.
17-12-2015, 12:26 AM
Life Sentences exist for perverts like this man.
Clearly not...
All paedos should get a life sentence I think. Yeah cries of 'but he could be rehabilitated!!!' will come up...but nah. Why take the risk that he isn't? Even if there was only a 1% chance, I'm not willing to risk more kids for the sake of some sickos freedom tbh
Mystic Mock
17-12-2015, 04:03 AM
Paedophiles that have molested children should stay in an Asylum and thankfully never let out again, there's no impulse control from those that have acted out like that on children so they don't deserve freedom.
But his only got out of jail because his rich, just like at the Accidental Rape thread for how rich people get away with severe crimes a lot more than working class people do.
Btw I have nothing against upper class people in general, but it does irritate me how the upper class can get away with breaking the law.
Mystic Mock
17-12-2015, 04:03 AM
Paedophiles that have molested children should stay in an Asylum and thankfully never let out again, there's no impulse control from those that have acted out like that on children so they don't deserve freedom.
But his only got out of jail because his rich, just look at the Accidental Rape thread for how rich people get away with severe crimes a lot more than working class people do.
Btw I have nothing against upper class people in general, but it does irritate me how the upper class can get away with breaking the law.
..so his sentence was doubled in 2014 and it's not even half the sentence that he served...
..this may be within the law but it destroys faith in the law if that's so..his victims were as young as 9yrs old, I work with 9yr old children and I have worked with children who have been victims of sexual abuse and this is something that many will never get beyond in their entire lives..the emotional/mental effects, not just for them but for their families as well.. this is a failing of the system for any victims of a crime which has such far reaching effects on their lives and wrong on so many levels...for crimes as serious as this, no matter how long ago, a sentence should be a fixed sentence and that sentence should be the one that is served...
joeysteele
17-12-2015, 08:23 AM
..so his sentence was doubled in 2014 and it's not even half the sentence that he served...
..this may be within the law but it destroys faith in the law if that's so..his victims were as young as 9yrs old, I work with 9yr old children and I have worked with children who have been victims of sexual abuse and this is something that many will never get beyond in their entire lives..the emotional/mental effects, not just for them but for their families as well.. this is a failing of the system for any victims of a crime which has such far reaching effects on their lives and wrong on so many levels...for crimes as serious as this, no matter how long ago, a sentence should be a fixed sentence and that sentence should be the one that is served...
Absolutely right,all that you say above.
Niamh.
17-12-2015, 09:55 AM
Clearly not...
All paedos should get a life sentence I think. Yeah cries of 'but he could be rehabilitated!!!' will come up...but nah. Why take the risk that he isn't? Even if there was only a 1% chance, I'm not willing to risk more kids for the sake of some sickos freedom tbh
Yeah that's always my attitude towards it aswell. The only way of finding out is to send them back amongst society and wait to see, is any innocent childs life and safety worth risking that? I don't think it is
The likes of Stuart Hall are being protected by the scum still hiding in amongst the influential and decision makers within our society. I had hoped that after Jimmy Saville, it was going to be rooted out with some big names falling on swords this year. It hasn't happened and the momentum for change seems to have disappeared. We as voters need to make our voice heard loud and clear in this.
Mystic Mock
18-12-2015, 09:35 AM
The likes of Stuart Hall are being protected by the scum still hiding in amongst the influential and decision makers within our society. I had hoped that after Jimmy Saville, it was going to be rooted out with some big names falling on swords this year. It hasn't happened and the momentum for change seems to have disappeared. We as voters need to make our voice heard loud and clear in this.
Everybody's too busy in this country talking about ISIS, Donald Trump, and Vladmir Putin to ever really get across stuff that's really affecting this country internally.
We need more discussions on how Law & Order is too soft, including the Prisons being more like Hotels rather than actual Prisons.
We need more discussions on how to increase our Police and Military forces again so that we're not a sitting duck for Terrorist groups like ISIS to just come and attack us.
We need more discussions on how to properly run the Jobseekers, Labour was too soft, and the Tories have been too harsh, we need someone that's more educated than myself to come up with a polished way of saying how we need to get people working again, but also not treating people that physically can't work like ****.
And we do need more investigating on paedophiles, some paedophiles due to their amount of wealth are getting off virtually scott free due to being able to pay off the Court.
We do need to also stop naming and shaming these people as "rapists" or "paedophiles" before they've even been found guilty of these things because mud sticks and there will always be doubt on if they've really done it or not, even if they are innocent.
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