UK : Flood Danger (26/12/15) : People in the North will not move out?

[arista]

Feck Me are they Stupid

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http://news.sky.com/story/1612392/danger-to-life-flood-warnings-for-the-north



Ref: SkyNewsHD Live


Warning given to them
but they refused to move out
in time (this went the same way in New Orleans , USA)


Our PM
sent the Army up there, again
so you would think due to the Danger
even if its a Holiday Day
move south or more North fast


From ITV1NewsHD
one Army man went to many homes asking them
to leave and taking notes of all those that refused to move out
and gave that data to the local Police.

15,000 homes without power,

[smudgie]

Very difficult.
Do you stay and try and protec your property and perhaps put yourself in danger or do you just walk away hoping for the best.:shrug:
Poor beggars, what an awful time for so many families.

[arista]

Very difficult.
Do you stay and try and protec your property and perhaps put yourself in danger or do you just walk away hoping for the best.:shrug:
Poor beggars, what an awful time for so many families.



Are you joking.

Unless you have a Fridge & Microwave Upstairs
you have to leave , right after you put everything upstairs.


I am sick of locals saying this has never been this bad.
There is a Army man at your door
ready to help
and you say "no thanks
we are staying."

Our PM got our Troops to help
before the Police
and of course as soon as the River /Floods came
the Army help the Police in moving those fools that stayed in there homes



Thats what went down
in New Orleans, USA
when they got flooded.



The Electricity/ Gas People have phoned customers

On the News there was Fire and Water
after a Gas pipe went off

[smudgie]

Are you joking.

Unless you have a Fridge & Microwave Upstairs
you have to leave , right after you put everything upstairs.


I am sick of locals saying this has never been this bad.
There is a Army man at your door
ready to help
and you say "no thanks
we are staying."

Our PM got our Troops to help
before the Police
and of course as soon as the River /Floods came
the Army help the Police in moving those fools that stayed in there homes



Thats what went down
in New Orleans, USA
when they got flooded.



The Electricity/ Gas People have phoned customers

On the News there was Fire and Water
after a Gas pipe went off

Well I would be off like a shot, but some people aren't insured and are afraid of losing everything to the looters.
I do believe your personal safety is way above having your worldly goods stolen, but we all think differently. Perhaps people dont think that their house will collapse of wash away.

[arista]

Well I would be off like a shot, but some people aren't insured and are afraid of losing everything to the looters.
I do believe your personal safety is way above having your worldly goods stolen, but we all think differently. Perhaps people dont think that their house will collapse of wash away.


What Looters using Boats in Front of the Army

You are joking


If you have a upstairs all that can be moved is good to go up there.
If you do not
the Flooding a month back has destroyed many already.


One Home Blocked the Front and Back Door
then it came up through the floor.
So take the nice Army Blokes advice


Its rare to have Red Alerts

[Northern Monkey]

Bloody Northerners

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Escape: People in Croston walk through the flooded streets in lifejackets .
In Whalley, Lancashire (above), this housing development near a railway viaduct,
was a lake yesterday after flooding.
Residents questioned whether the site would find a buyer
or if the developments would ever be completed ]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3374917/The-day-Britain-went-UK-hit-worst-floods-decades-towns-mini-Venices-thousands-flee-homes.html#ixzz3vUTGbZT3

[arista]

SkyNewsHD Live

At 6:09AM :Live Stream : York

And Big Refuse Bin is afloat.



On the Phone was North Yorkshire Chief of Police
advises people to leave.
Some still refuse?



Some Sunshine in the north today
But the Damage Rivers are still Flooding
the water has to go somewhere.

[arista]

Ref : BBCNewsHD papers review

They talked about £5 Billion going to the outside nations
and yet that money is needed in the North
to channel the rivers to the sea far better

[AnnieK]

Its awful...we escaped it but near my Dads is devastated.....the pub we used to go in when we were at college has collapsed into the river, there's been gas explosions.....so many families have been left without anything.....I'm taking some supplies down shortly for the volunteers who are helping residents. Loads of community spirit though ....goo to see so many people willing to help

[arista]

Its awful...we escaped it but near my Dads is devastated.....the pub we used to go in when we were at college has collapsed into the river, there's been gas explosions.....so many families have been left without anything.....I'm taking some supplies down shortly for the volunteers who are helping residents. Loads of community spirit though ....goo to see so many people willing to help


Thats good to hear

[user104658]

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Succinctly sums up the entire disaster.

[arista]

Succinctly sums up the entire disaster.



Yes I want to Build High Homes on Long Metal
with special sealed paint on them
well above the water level on there
so and floods will not get them.
All Gas/ Electric will be on a high sealed Square pipe
running through all the lofts.

They will have boats
built in each loft
with a Chain to the let them down
no electric used.


When the Water goes down
a special stairs will go down
powered by Solar.

Arista Future Safe Homes

[user104658]

Yes I want to Build High Homes on Long Metal
with special sealed paint on them
well above the water level on there
so and floods will not get them.
All Gas/ Electric will be on a high sealed Square pipe
running through all the lofts.

They will have boats
built in each loft
with a Chain to the let them down
no electric used.


When the Water goes down
a special stairs will go down
powered by Solar.

Arista Future Safe Homes
... I've changed my mind, those sound so ugly Arista. I would rather live in a normal house and have it flooded.

[Kizzy]

Ah, thought you were being nice on the other thread, no I'm not one of the 'stupid northerners'.
I think it's horrible to describe frightened displaced people as stupid.

[AnnieK]

Yup, I agree Kizzy. I've just been to drop off some cleaning supplies that people hAve asked for...they are not stupid people, just people trying to save their homes and possessions. Some people have lost loads and are still under water....it's awful but so many people helping out and offering services and opening their homes to people without. Fantastic spirit but a lot of shocked sad people

[Crimson Dynamo]

I am afraid, at the moment, it looks like the same areas are about to get deluged again on Wednesday

[arista]

There has been one Major Error
in one zone a Barrier was pulled up due to electricity fears?

Thats not the PM's Fault


One lady lost all her Business papers in her basement
she said no warning ,at all ,was given. (ITV1HD News)



In that case who ever feared Electric Problems
or that the Gate would get stuck or whatever
is 100% to blame for her business destruction.
And must be held accountable.

[Kizzy]

There has been one Major Error
in one zone a Barrier was pulled up due to electricity fears?

Thats not the PM's Fault


One lady lost all her Business papers in her basement
she said no warning ,at all ,was given. (ITV1HD News)



In that case who ever feared Electric Problems
or that the Gate would get stuck or whatever
is 100% to blame for her business destruction.
And must be held accountable.

Aw that's unfortunate, HMRC will not be able to have the figures for her tax assessment then eh?... Tricky tricky.

[arista]

Ah, thought you were being nice on the other thread, no I'm not one of the 'stupid northerners'.
I think it's horrible to describe frightened displaced people as stupid.


This thread was made at the time when locals
in the North were Refusing to Leave there homes.

The Army Man was there for any help
so "for those that think its wise to stay in a flooded home"
they are Stupid.


Life is more Important

[user104658]

Aw that's unfortunate, HMRC will not be able to have the figures for her tax assessment then eh?... Tricky tricky.

:joker: I was literally just about to quote that bit. "Oh yes my basement was flooded... err... all that was in there was every single document relating to my business expenses... :hehe: oh dear."

[Cherie]

Succinctly sums up the entire disaster.

Not really as the amount of rainfall has been unprecedented and people have been flooded who have lived in these areas for 50 years, so you cant blame new development wholly

[user104658]

Not really as the amount of rainfall has been unprecedented and people have been flooded who have lived in these areas for 50 years, so you cant blame new development wholly

50 years =/= unprecidented... these areas are flood plains and so, by definition, have flooded before throughout history. Probably thousands of times. They haven't flooded like this for a while but that's where the logical flaw is... "hasn't happened for a while" doesn't mean "will never happen again".

Flood plains flood. Once all of this is over, they can fix up the damage, they can try to build better flood defenses but if there's one thing you can 100% guarantee... it's that the same places will flood again one day. Might be next year, might be in 20, might be 200... but it will happen... because of geography, and the physics of liquids.

[arista]

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[Thousands More Homes
Face Flooding Threat
David Cameron says extra troops
will be deployed to the north of England
as more than 7,000 homes remain without power.]

http://news.sky.com/story/1613069/thousands-more-homes-face-flooding-threat

[arista]

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Thats a Junction
So now more Junctions need building
with Deep water sub sections
taking the River - when Flooding
Direct to the Sea.

Radical Measure's are needed


Yes Engineering can be done


Thank You Dave
for sending up our troops

[arista]

Not really as the amount of rainfall has been unprecedented and people have been flooded who have lived in these areas for 50 years, so you cant blame new development wholly



But on the Womans Business
that was the one Error
of a Gate raised wrongly


She had no warning,
unlike all the others


Shocking

[arista]

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[arista]

The PM was just live on SkyNewsHD in York

There are women there,
shifting bags with soil ,
Kay Burley spoke to them after the PM

All I can say is well done Dave for getting 700 troops up there
and i know you are going to change things,


One other expert spoke live
he said there are to many divisions
for Flooding - meaning it should just be one.

[arista]

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The PM meeting the Troops

[arista]

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Yes Madame
the water even came up the bog

[arista]

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Now Look Ducks
this is not your Zone

[arista]

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Yes Lads
have a good rest

[arista]

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Welcome To Central Manchester Beech

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[arista]

There is War of words going on
over who raised the Gate.

Now I understand
that if they left it down
more would have been flooded
up river.


But regarding that Business Woman
on ITV1HD News , the other day.
She Got no Phone Call warning


So its suddenly gets to much
water than they first thought
and the Junction Power get flooded
so the pulled up the gate " Fast"
with No Motha Fecking Pre Warning to that zone


No if I had that in Court
The Council and the Bloke in Charge would be Fined.

The are two 24/7 News Channels
but no one will talk about it for long?

Is this what they do in the North?

[arista]

From SkyNewsHD
Leeds
there is a Kebab Shop has all its Cases ready for your meals
But the Meat is stored in the basement
which got Flooded.

No Kebabs on that Street
Lads

[AnnieK]

More rain forecast for tomorrow and Wednesday here....people are panicking as they have started to clean up and are being warned they could get hit again :sad:

[arista]

More rain forecast for tomorrow and Wednesday here....people are panicking as they have started to clean up and are being warned they could get hit again :sad:


Yes late Tuesday
and all Weds


He is called "Frank"

[arista]

The Romans did it OK

So I say bring up the Walls high as the Homes
they may lose some front Light
but never Get Flooded again


Arista Solid Construction


The Funding would come from the money we waste on Stinking Rich India

[Livia]

The Romans did it OK

So I say bring up the Walls high as the Homes
they may lose some front Light
but never Get Flooded again


Arista Solid Construction


The Funding would come from the money we waste on Stinking Rich India

What about the water that'd come up through the toilet, sink and drains? And that's not nice fresh rainwater.

Completely agree with your last sentence.

[Kizzy]

The Romans did it OK

So I say bring up the Walls high as the Homes
they may lose some front Light
but never Get Flooded again


Arista Solid Construction


The Funding would come from the money we waste on Stinking Rich India

Our colonial past is the hot topic atm isn't it? Now exploited nations are to blame for our inadequate flood defences :/

[arista]

What about the water that'd come up through the toilet, sink and drains? And that's not nice fresh rainwater.

Completely agree with your last sentence.


Simple Air Tight Lids.
Drains will be diverted in a Flood.

And Chemical Bogs will Come in

[Brekkie]

It's not just about protecting your property it's about having somewhere to go. For many friends and family isn't an option - they to might be flooded and you may have no means of getting there. If rescue centres have been set up (and I'm sure they have) it's not surprising many would only want to use them as a last resort.

The American starting this thread though clearly understands very little about the British - the Blitz spirit is still alive and well.

[arista]

Our colonial past is the hot topic atm isn't it? Now exploited nations are to blame for our inadequate flood defences :/


Our Past Matters
But Our North Of England Matters as well
India is a Smaller China.



That money is needed
for Our Floods.

[Kizzy]

Our Past Matters
But Our North Of England Matters as well
India is a Smaller China.



That money is needed
for Our Floods.

How is this suddenly about foreign aid?

[arista]

How is this suddenly about foreign aid?

Its being debated on TV News
and LBC radio