Louisa Johnson drops right down to #61 after just 3 weeks

[Benjamin]

:joker:

[Denver]

Hahaha and people said she was the future of music :joker: this time next year she be serving us in McDonald's

[Samm]

Who cares it's her XF single, once she starts her career she'll appeal to the mainstream and not just the XF watchers

[Denver]

Who cares it's her XF single, once she starts her career she'll appeal to the mainstream and not just the XF watchers

She is releasing a album of covers for Mothers Day :joker:

[MB.]

Who cares it's her XF single, once she starts her career she'll appeal to the mainstream and not just the XF watchers

But X Factor viewers are the mainstream

[LukeB]

Who cares it's her XF single, once she starts her career she'll appeal to the mainstream and not just the XF watchers

tbh

Winner singles success does not tell if the act will be successful or flop in the future.

[Samm]

She is releasing a album of covers for Mothers Day :joker:

When has this ever been said lol!

[LukeB]

When has this ever been said lol!

Well it's been rumoured she going to rush it but it's not confirmed.

[Shaun]

Imagine laughing at a 17 year old girl's career as if it's in anyone else's hands but a dying irrelevant TV show and its owner.

[Samm]

I doubt her album will appeal to the Mother's Day market

http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/x-factor/410503/

[Headie]

Oh well she'll do better when she gets to release her own music.

For now lets celebrate Sax being back in the top 10!

[Jordan.]

Hahaha and people said she was the future of music :joker: this time next year she be serving us in McDonald's

But she wont will she. Even if she isn't a huge pop star she'll still be making more money than you or I'm guessing most people on this forum soo :clap1:

[Headie]

But she wont will she. Even if she isn't a huge pop star she'll still be making more money than you or I'm guessing most people on this forum soo :clap1:

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[Amy Jade]

But she wont will she. Even if she isn't a huge pop star she'll still be making more money than you or I'm guessing most people on this forum soo :clap1:

I love how her fans were shouting down people who weren't when XF was on about how she would be a huge pop star

Then the single flopped and doubt set in...

Now she's rushing her album and it's looking likely to be filled with covers it's ok because she's got money

:laugh2:

I feel bad for her because it's inevitable her 'fans' will abandon her soon...poor girl

[Headie]

^ People said the same about Little Mix though when they were one of the lowest-selling XF winners at the start so I don't see how people can be so sure her career is over after 1 single :shrug:

[Denver]

But she wont will she. Even if she isn't a huge pop star she'll still be making more money than you or I'm guessing most people on this forum soo :clap1:

The winner of the X Factor only gets money from the amount of record she sells

[RichardG]

She didn't stand a chance, I got the impression that everything about the show last year was a mess.

[GiRTh]

This doenst really mean much other than the public are sick of the winners single being number one at Xmas. If Simon decides he's gonna throw money at her career then she'll be a huge success.

He's kind of got a problem in that with Louisa he has too many female artists Eg Little Mix, Ella Henderson, Cher Lloyd. Especially now 1D are no more only Olly Murs remains as the sole male artist on his books. Not sure if Simon will dedicate the time to Louisa that he dedicated to Cher and Ella

[Headie]

The winner of the X Factor only gets money from the amount of record she sells

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[Amy Jade]

^ People said the same about Little Mix though when they were one of the lowest-selling XF winners at the start so I don't see how people can be so sure her career is over after 1 single :shrug:

I don't remember Cannonball missing out on the Christmas number one?

I didn't say her career was over either, but it's hardly looking good and clearly her fans aren't being very supportive if they can't even support her 1st single...the competition wasn't even that strong either.

[Jordan.]

Her fans are waiting for her own music not a bland song cover, I wouldn't call that abandoning her. I love bad assumptions tho.

[Jordan.]

^ People said the same about Little Mix though when they were one of the lowest-selling XF winners at the start so I don't see how people can be so sure her career is over after 1 single :shrug:

Cannonball is 9th out of 12 in terms of winner single sales yet Little Mix are one of the most successful acts to come from the show. It's cute people are still acting like the winner song will determine someones career.

[Denver]

Cannonball is 9th out of 12 in terms of winner single sales yet Little Mix are one of the most successful acts to come from the show. It's cute people are still acting like the winner song will determine someones career.

Their was a gap in the market for LM while Louisa bring nothing that there already isnt

[GiRTh]

The winner of the X Factor only gets money from the amount of record she sellsI dont think the winner is entitled to any money from the sale of the single.

[LukeB]

I dont think the winner is entitled to any money from the sale of the single.

You're right, it's a charity single

but she gets 100,000k from the tour.

[Denver]

I dont think the winner is entitled to any money from the sale of the single.

Obviously not this charity single but her riches depends on future sales after Simon ditched the £1 million prize after everyone was flopping

[Amy Jade]

Her fans are waiting for her own music not a bland song cover, I wouldn't call that abandoning her. I love bad assumptions tho.

I bought Cannonball like a true fan :)

[Jordan.]

Congrats :) Cannonball was actually a good song

[Amy Jade]

Unlike Forever Young :)

[Jordan.]

Obviously did anyone say otherwise

[Jordan.]

:)

[Headie]

I don't remember Cannonball missing out on the Christmas number one?

I didn't say her career was over either, but it's hardly looking good and clearly her fans aren't being very supportive if they can't even support her 1st single...the competition wasn't even that strong either.

I never said Cannonball missed out on the Xmas number 1? But in terms of sales, it sold like the third least copies out of all winners singles or something.

And look at them now... the same could happen to Louisa. I don't think it's fair to write her off so soon.

[Brother Leon]

Little Mix were the last act to make a proper career off XF. It is generally dying out. Doesn't help when the last few winners have been pretty meh too.

[LukeB]

Little Mix were the last act to make a proper career off XF. It is generally dying out. Doesn't help when the last few winners have been pretty meh too.

Ella Henderson you mean?

Ghost sold 1 million copies and her album went platinum and is doing well in America.

[Strictly Jake]

To be fair it's cos the song is tosh Louisa still is good

[Jamie89]

Does anyone else remember when Leona became huge? It wasn't on the release of her X Factor song, it was on the release of Bleeding Love. That's when people really paid attention and started taking her seriously.

[Jamie89]

I never said Cannonball missed out on the Xmas number 1? But in terms of sales, it sold like the third least copies out of all winners singles or something.

And look at them now... the same could happen to Louisa. I don't think it's fair to write her off so soon.

Precisely, and isn't she like 17? She's got plenty of time, and from what I've seen of her, enough talent to make it.

[Raph]

Great news :clap1:

4th Impact forever >>>>

[Raph]

I bought Cannonball like a true fan :)

Yes! Cannonball is actually my favorite ever winners single :laugh:

[andybigbro]

I feel sorry for her. She's an amazing singer and deserves more recognition. Especially considering Steve Brookstein even got #1

I know the show is losing viewers but loads of people just voted her to win so I would have thought they would want to buy her song.

Hope she does really well, she's really talented and deserves it.

[Amy Jade]

I feel sorry for her. She's an amazing singer and deserves more recognition. Especially considering Steve Brookstein even got #1

I know the show is losing viewers but loads of people just voted her to win so I would have thought they would want to buy her song.

Hope she does really well, she's really talented and deserves it.

People liked supporting her when it cost them nothing with the free voting but as soon as they have to actually support her career the fans haven't been so quick in their support.

[Pete.]

People liked supporting her when it cost them nothing with the free voting but as soon as they have to actually support her career the fans haven't been so quick in their support.
Tbh

[Ross.]

I'm not surprised it flopped, the song is ****

[LukeB]

Hope she does really well, she's really talented and deserves it.

it all depends on the song she realises because Forever Young was a poor choice for a winners single.

[Amy Jade]

Ella Henderson you mean?

Ghost sold 1 million copies and her album went platinum and is doing well in America.

Ella doesn't owe that to The X Factor though, she owes that to great writers, management and pure talent.

[LukeB]

Ella doesn't owe that to The X Factor though, she owes that to great writers, management and pure talent.

Doesn't that go for any successful X Factor act though? like Little Mix :laugh:

[EspeonBB]

tbf if Louisa comes out with good music that will appeal to the public she will be successful :shrug: Her XF single "flopping" won't matter

[Jordan.]

People liked supporting her when it cost them nothing with the free voting but as soon as they have to actually support her career the fans haven't been so quick in their support.

Because people don't like the song... not everyone is a sheep and supports anything their fave puts out even if it's crap.

We'll save our coins for when she releases her own music :clap1:

[Amy Jade]

Doesn't that go for any successful X Factor act though? like Little Mix :laugh:

Well no because Little Mix won and had a huge push from Syco. Ella did the tour and was forgotten

[Amy Jade]

Because people don't like the song... not everyone is a sheep and supports anything their fave puts out even if it's crap.

We'll save our coins for when she releases her own music :clap1:

Call me a sheep if it makes you feel better about not supporting who you claim to like and causing her to be called a flop - I call supporting my favourite artists being a fan and I can afford to spend a pound to buy their music :laugh:

If I choose to support somebody on the show it tends to last longer than straight after the show ends - hence me still being a big Little Mix and Leona fan

[Jordan.]

Call me a sheep if it makes you feel better about not supporting who you claim to like and causing her to be called a flop - I call supporting my favourite artists being a fan and I can afford to spend a pound to buy their music :laugh:

If I choose to support somebody on the show it tends to last longer than straight after the show ends - hence me still being a big Little Mix and Leona fan

That comment wasn't even aimed at you, sorry you automatically made that assumption of yourself & not supporting Forever Young doesn't mean people are not still supporting Louisa, as said many times her fans are waiting for her own music which actually matters :spin:

Besides they're only so much a fanbase can do, the general public have to also like a song for it to become a hit.

[Heaven = Winner]

what a flop lol

[Samm]

Like Jamie said about Leona..

If you were to ask what her first "single" would be to the general public most would say bleeding in love, it all depends on her debut single which will be her own music which then she can be judged if people wish to.

I'll still listen to her music either way if it isn't successful or if It is.

[Amy Jade]

Like Jamie said about Leona..

If you were to ask what her first "single" would be to the general public most would say bleeding in love, it all depends on her debut single which will be her own music which then she can be judged if people wish to.

I'll still listen to her music either way if it isn't successful or if It is.
People can and will judge as soon as they want, I know it's nice for fans to pretend it's all about her follow up to the winners single but for her to have such a flop as soon as the show ends and she's fresh in their memory...it's embarrassing.

I honestly wish her well, I am the same age as her and I'd be devestated if people put me on a pedestal and then didn't give a **** after - but in all honesty I do wonder how much legitimate support she has, free votes won her the show but will the same people actually spend money on her? remains to be seen.

[Ninastar]

not surprised, the song she was given was awful. probably my fave ever winner, yet i've not even thought about downloading the song

but ive liked all the other songs, even from winners i didnt like

[LukeB]

but ive liked all the other songs, even from winners i didnt like

Same, I brought Joe's single when it came out and i wasn't a fan of him,

[Mystic Mock]

Simon's overhyping and overrating can only take you so far.

Maybe her next Single or Album can salvage her though as even Fleur out of Simon's pets has clung onto the Single market for now.

[LukeB]

Simon's overhyping and overrating can only take you so far.

Maybe her next Single or Album can salvage her though as even Fleur out of Simon's pets has clung onto the Single market for now.

that has nothing to do with it though, the single was a really poor choice and is basically crap. It was nothing against Louisa herself. No one liked the winners single, not even me

[Mystic Mock]

that has nothing to do with it though, the single was a really poor choice and is basically crap. It was nothing against Louisa herself. No one liked the winners single, not even me

She did the Bob Dylan version which was popular for him, that means that there was something up with the way Louisa sung the song, or performed the song, or imo both was all over the place for the song as she did her usual Zombie performing meets Sam Bailey type shouting, you can't do that through a Bob Dylan song and it exposed her.

If she sung the song more like the "may you stay forever young" part I bet that the single would be doing a lot better for her.

[LukeB]

She did the Bob Dylan version which was popular for him, that means that there was something up with the way Louisa sung the song, or performed the song, or imo both was all over the place for the song as she did her usual Zombie performing meets Sam Bailey type shouting, you can't do that through a Bob Dylan song and it exposed her.

If she sung the song more like the "may you stay forever young" part I bet that the single would be doing a lot better for her.

Completely different version and the originals are always preferred to the covers. Forever Young was a poor choice and most are getting bored of the winners singles now. It was nothing against Louisa, if you look at most of the comments on social media you will see they hate the song. Her album/music is the only what matters not some ****ty/boring cover. James Arthur sold pretty well because Impossible was a good choice but did he do well after that? not really

[Mystic Mock]

James Arthur didn't do bad because of his Music (which was really good shockingly from TXF) but his own behaviour killed him and any interesting alternative act from winning ever again.

[LukeB]

James Arthur didn't do bad because of his Music (which was really good shockingly from TXF) but his own behaviour killed him and any interesting alternative act from winning ever again.

Sam's and Ben's winners single did well.. did they do well afterwards? no

winners single are no indication on anything.. Little Mix single was criticised and was the 1st winners single not to be nominated for a Brit.. look at them now

[Lostie!]

Writing someone off because a winner's single didn't do brilliantly doesn't make much sense because that suggests a high-performing winner's single equates to long-lasting success, which has been proven to not necessarily be the case more times than not.

[Mystic Mock]

Sam's and Ben's winners single did well.. did they do well afterwards? no

winners single are no indication on anything.. Little Mix single was criticised and was the 1st winners single not to be nominated for a Brit.. look at them now

Little Mix still got number one with their Folk Rock song though, Louisa didn't even come close with her Folk Rock song cover.

Plus Little Mix won a much tougher series meaning that they had fans to begin with, where as Louisa was thrown into a series where it would be like Bayern Munich taking on Aston Villa in the Football, there's only one outcome which is a Bayern Munich victory, and an equivalent on The X Factor literally happened, the good acts (Seann, Monica, Mason, Kiera, and Max) was all too niche and too marmite to ever win, Lauren was too unlikable to win, and Reggie n Bollie and 4th Impact were foreigners so they had very little chance of winning either no matter how they sung.

So my point is that Louisa won a really hated series, Little Mix did not so there was more potential for them to turn around a slow sales start which still got them to number 1, Louisa will have to change nearly everything about her Music style just to have a chance to succeed in my view.

[Headie]

It's only because of streaming, if they didn't introduce streaming she would've been #2 based off official sales :shrug:

[Amy Jade]

Writing someone off because a winner's single didn't do brilliantly doesn't make much sense because that suggests a high-performing winner's single equates to long-lasting success, which has been proven to not necessarily be the case more times than not.

I'm not writing her off - but I do question her real fan following, I have a feeling she won't get as much support as people expect.

[Gstar]

Wasn't feeling the XF single. I'll wait for her own music, there is definitely a gap in the market for her amazing talent

[LukeB]

It's only because of streaming, if they didn't introduce streaming she would've been #2 based off official sales :shrug:

Streaming is the new thing now, with Spotify/Apple Music..This is why Taylor Swift/Adele not putting their stuff on them is a good idea. People are still paying for that but a song needs like 100 plays for it to get a sale or something?

[Gusto Brunt]

Hahaha and people said she was the future of music :joker: this time next year she be serving us in McDonald's

Simon bought the sales that got her in the charts, but when it was left to Joe Public to keep there she drops like a ton weight.:joker:

[Glenn.]

Don't care for her anyway. She gave off an air of complete smugness and it was cringeworthy.

[Ross.]

Tears says hi

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[Cal.]

Lauren Murray won Best Performance at The National Reality TV awards so we know who won!