What is Kristina's problem...

[Vicky.]

Only times she has been featured tonight is bitching about Tiffany..everything seems to be Tiffs fault. Darren smoking is apparently Tiffanys fault for the David thing, despite Darren smoking before that too? Like..I don't understand where the obsession has come from at all

[Daniel-X]

Baa. Baa. Baa.

[Amy Jade]

I noticed her blaming Tiffany for Darren smoking too, it makes no sense because he was apparently smoking before the misunderstanding - she seems to have an odd vendetta against Tiffany for no apparent reason

[MrWong]

On the live feed just now Kristina said she found it shocking that Tiff fancy's Jeremy. Weird.

Not sure why that's so shocking.

[Denver]

I think they have had words which haven't been shown

[Denver]

On the live feed just now Kristina said she found it shocking that Tiff fancy's Jeremy. Weird.

Not sure why that's so shocking.

Wasn't it Darren?

[Amy Jade]

On the live feed just now Kristina said she found it shocking that Tiff fancy's Jeremy. Weird.

Not sure why that's so shocking.

Maybe because Jeremy is not married, Kristina likes her men with a wedding ring

[Edna Mode]

I know the racism thing has been thrown around a lot on here, and although I *DO* think that racist thoughts and judgements have most likely come into HMs minds and influenced certain attitudes, I'm not saying that they've influenced every anti-Tiff perspective in the house. With that said, I DEFINITELY DEFINITELY think race has come into play for Christina. Without a doubt. She's acting like Tiffany doesn't even exist, like she's not a person, like she's a coat hanger or a chair. She was the one who suddenly felt "unsafe" and "threatened" when Tiffany started yelling, even though she was in no danger whatsoever.

While I do think racist attitudes have been subtly shown, in the case of Daniella and sometimes John, I'm not one to cry race over instances where it's completely left out; however, as tensions brew in the house, certain attitudes have been adopted and certain comments have been made that are certainly questionable, given their contexts, intonations, and implications.
Trust me when I say I'm an incredibly politically incorrect person; I too think it's silly to casually blame racism for basic obstacles and disputes. However, even my oblivious ass can see that this woman is giving off one HELL of a racist vibe.

[jet]

I thought I would like Kristina but I'm disappointed in her. She is such a sourpuss. Why the hell can't Darren have some cigs in the house without them going on at him; it'll only make him want them all the more. He's a grown man ffs. They'll be driving him to drink next if they don't leave him be.

[mr rochester]

Her biggest problem is that she keeps too far under the radar. If she didn't she'd be featured more...

[LukeB]

jealousy

[rionablue]

Only times she has been featured tonight is bitching about Tiffany..everything seems to be Tiffs fault. Darren smoking is apparently Tiffanys fault for the David thing, despite Darren smoking before that too? Like..I don't understand where the obsession has come from at all

I said I couldn't stand her even before she entered the house. it seems a lot of the professional dancers on Strictly have said she is a bit of a diva also. She isn't even pretty I was gobsmacked that three men left relationships to go off with her. Horrible woman. A smile would break her face

[jet]

I know the racism thing has been thrown around a lot on here, and although I *DO* think that racist thoughts and judgements have most likely come into HMs minds and influenced certain attitudes, I'm not saying that they've influenced every anti-Tiff perspective in the house. With that said, I DEFINITELY DEFINITELY think race has come into play for Christina. Without a doubt. She's acting like Tiffany doesn't even exist, like she's not a person, like she's a coat hanger or a chair. She was the one who suddenly felt "unsafe" and "threatened" when Tiffany started yelling, even though she was in no danger whatsoever.

While I do think racist attitudes have been subtly shown, in the case of Daniella and sometimes John, I'm not one to cry race over instances where it's completely left out; however, as tensions brew in the house, certain attitudes have been adopted and certain comments have been made that are certainly questionable, given their contexts, intonations, and implications.
Trust me when I say I'm an incredibly politically incorrect person; I too think it's silly to casually blame racism for basic obstacles and disputes. However, even my oblivious ass can see that this woman is giving off one HELL of a racist vibe.

I don't much like her, but I haven't noticed any racism from her at all. :shrug:
On Strictly Come Dancing, over time she has been partnered with 2 black men and seemed to get on great with them...maybe she's just anti - Tiffany...

[Edna Mode]

I don't much like her, but I haven't noticed any racism from her at all. :shrug:
On Strictly Come Dancing, over time she has been partnered with 2 black men and seemed to get on great with them...maybe she's just anti - Tiffany...



There's a difference between working with someone and living with someone.
The real person comes out after a while.
Pay attention to interactions between the two of them. If you go back and watch the scenes from the episode where the chaos unfolded over the David Bowie thing, pay attention to Christina's reactions. They're very telling. I had to watch the scene twice to notice it.

[BB4fan]

Who cares what Kristina thinks it's not like we get to see her on TV enough to actually form an opinion on her.i

[Edna Mode]

Who cares what Kristina thinks it's not like we get to see her on TV enough to actually form an opinion on her.i



Not to mention she has the personality of a shoe horn.

[BB4fan]

I don't much like her, but I haven't noticed any racism from her at all. :shrug:
On Strictly Come Dancing, over time she has been partnered with 2 black men and seemed to get on great with them...maybe she's just anti - Tiffany...

I'm sure she doesn't have a problem with race. She'll sleep with anyone.:hehe:

[Jase.]

Ugh. She's such a ****ing non-entity. Bore off, love.

[jet]

I'm sure she doesn't have a problem with race. She'll sleep with anyone.:hehe:

That's not true. :nono: They have to be male and married. :hehe:

[iRyan]

It's inferential racism.

[Stormy]

I don't know if I'd call it racism as Kristina hasn't really said anything that would point to that....but I can see how people would feel that way, because she seemed to have taken an instant dislike to Tiffany from the start without any justifiable reason.

She excuses/forgives other housemates when they have had it out with Angie (Jonathan's losing it with Angie and calling her names; Gemma's shouting match with Angie; Daniella going off on Angie when she thought Angie was angry at her.) Kristina can overlook them all without a second thought.

Yet with Tiffany, she won't forgive her or let it go...Ignores her and constantly makes faces or nasty comments about her. I'd like to know why she dislikes Tiff so much.

[reece(:]

She's latching onto queen Tiff for airtime, dullard!

[jennyjuniper]

On the live feed just now Kristina said she found it shocking that Tiff fancy's Jeremy. Weird.

Not sure why that's so shocking.

It's more shocking to fancy other people's husbands!:shrug:

[reece(:]

It's more shocking to fancy other people's husbands!:shrug:
Zing!

[Ammi]

..I think that it's obvious that she doesn't like Tiffany but I just don't get/see anything racial though...I have no idea why she doesn't like her but sometimes we meet people that we really can't connect with and an 'instant dislike' thing happens...there is no explaining of it because it's often more of a sub-conscious thing..maybe something that we associate with a negative in our lives/you know, just something about that person, a kind of 'trigger'...so from then on in, we're really looking at them from a negative perspective, so will be critical of everything they do/say/are etc...


...we've all I think had that sometime in our lives, that 'instant dislike' thing...if we had it and if that person we felt it for happened to be black and if we felt it in the Big Brother house in full glare of the public who were going to judge us...it could maybe be perceived as racial...?...but surely there has to be more than a dislike of someone for it to be that/a racist thing..?...I'm not keen on Kristina I have to say but I don't see that she's been racist in any way, maybe I've missed that....I just think also that if we say these things when there is no real reason, we're diluting racism, which is a very serious thing....

[Cherie]

She really brings nothing to the house but her washing up gloves

[MB.]

It's not racism

[Samm]

She's a nonentity

[Niamh.]

Maybe because Jeremy is not married, Kristina likes her men with a wedding ring


:laugh2:

[rubymoo]

Kristina's dull, i forget she's in there!

I'm waiting for fireworks though between her and Tiffany.

[cheapbbfan]

uptight bitch. I dont like her

[MrWong]

It's more shocking to fancy other people's husbands!:shrug:

Ouch! :D

[kirklancaster]

She really brings nothing to the house but her washing up gloves

:laugh: So true Cherie.

Not that I was a fan before but I have completely gone off her. I thought that she was one of the more physically attractive ones in there, but - as usual with me - the ugliness which emerges from the inside of a HM, makes the outside repulsive to me too, and now, she is nothing more than a vacous ugly bitch -- in and out.

[Stevep]

It's not racism

Agreed, it's such a nonsense (and so easy) to call someone racist just because they do no get on with someone that is of a different race.

[bots]

Could it be that Kristina just doesn't like Tiff, I don't see that explanation as much of a stretch :laugh:

[Stevep]

There's a difference between working with someone and living with someone.
The real person comes out after a while.
Pay attention to interactions between the two of them. If you go back and watch the scenes from the episode where the chaos unfolded over the David Bowie thing, pay attention to Christina's reactions. They're very telling. I had to watch the scene twice to notice it.

Taking a look back at some of those vids, there is no way that the feelings that they displayed for one another are not genuine, no chance.

Have you tried considering the possibility that Tiff might just be......shock horror.....a bit of a bitch? Or to be more specific an individual that has flaws that certain other individuals have no desire to tolerate?

I knew absolutely nothing of her to begin with and after the first few days i found her pretty likeable, but there have been a couple of incidents since that have put me off her, not to the point of disliking her as such but just well, not being particularly fond of her. She does have a softer side, as we saw yesterday, but she needs to sort out that temper.

Taking a look at some of her past clips on youtube i can see that the outburst she has had in the house are not untypical of her, she has a history of flying off the handle and being rather aggressive and confrontational. Is it so hard to believe that certain people may not find that type of behaviour particularly appealing?

[chuff me dizzy]

I like her

[jet]

Taking a look back at some of those vids, there is no way that the feelings that they displayed for one another are not genuine, no chance.

Have you tried considering the possibility that Tiff might just be......shock horror.....a bit of a bitch? Or to be more specific an individual that has flaws that certain other individuals have no desire to tolerate?

I knew absolutely nothing of her to begin with and after the first few days i found her pretty likeable, but there have been a couple of incidents since that have put me off her, not to the point of disliking her as such but just well, not being particularly fond of her. She does have a softer side, as we saw yesterday, but she needs to sort out that temper.

Taking a look at some of her past clips on youtube i can see that the outburst she has had in the house are not untypical of her, she has a history of flying off the handle and being rather aggressive and confrontational. Is it so hard to believe that certain people may not find that type of behaviour particularly appealing?

I can't help thinking that something went down between Tiffany and Kristina that wasn't shown. Kristina obviously can't stand her, and there has to be a better reason for that than the Angie/Tiffany misunderstanding. There was all that talk about the HM's being afraid of Tiffany and not feeling safe with her in the house but no explanation of WHY. The night that was all going on it showed Kristina looking more distressed than anyone else and she made the comment that she wouldn't feel safe sleeping in the same room as her. She looked wretched and she had obviously being crying. It's all very puzzling. :huh:

[Vanessa]

Only times she has been featured tonight is bitching about Tiffany..everything seems to be Tiffs fault. Darren smoking is apparently Tiffanys fault for the David thing, despite Darren smoking before that too? Like..I don't understand where the obsession has come from at all

Urgh, i can't stand her ! :nono:

[Livia]

I see Kristina's still being cast as the home wrecker, despite the fact it was not she who made vows to another person and then broke them. And anyway, no one here knows anything about Ben Cohen's marriage, it might have been on the rocks, his wife might be a bitch... no one knows, and yet everyone feels justified to judge when actually, it's not anyone else's business. His ex-wife wants to cast herself as the wronged woman two years after he left her, that's her problem.

If the airtime wasn't being used, as usual, on the loudest airhead, maybe we'd have more time to see what the others, including Kristina, are up to rather than seeing just a couple of moments of them moaning.

[Crimson Dynamo]

poor Ben :worry:

That evil homewrecker got her claws into him and ruined his happy marriage

[Niamh.]

I see Kristina's still being cast as the home wrecker, despite the fact it was not she who made vows to another person and then broke them. And anyway, no one here knows anything about Ben Cohen's marriage, it might have been on the rocks, his wife might be a bitch... no one knows, and yet everyone feels justified to judge when actually, it's not anyone else's business. His ex-wife wants to cast herself as the wronged woman two years after he left her, that's her problem.

If the airtime wasn't being used, as usual, on the loudest airhead, maybe we'd have more time to see what the others, including Kristina, are up to rather than seeing just a couple of moments of them moaning.

Yeah I'm sure it was the wifes fault that she got cheated on

[Livia]

Yeah I'm sure it was the wifes fault that she got cheated on

I didn't suggest that. Everyone has made up their mind that Kristina is the one at fault. Maybe their marriage was on the rocks already. No one knows... and yet everyone judges.

[Niamh.]

I didn't suggest that. Everyone has made up their mind that Kristina is the one at fault. Maybe their marriage was on the rocks already. No one knows... and yet everyone judges.

Clearly the married person is at fault most of all but no self respecting woman(or man) would go off with a married person imo :shrug:

[wendywillow]

we mustve missed a blow out between tiff/Kristina, otherwise it makes no sense

[Mitchell]

She dated two of her SINGLE cast mates in her many years on the show, what's wrong with that :shrug: relationships sometimes break up, it's not nice, but moving on isn't a crime! it's not like she's going around shagging Daniel O'Donnell and John Sargeant is it?

[jet]

we mustve missed a blow out between tiff/Kristina, otherwise it makes no sense

I agree. I was saying just that a few posts ago. Maybe when another HM comes out and gets interviewed we'll find out about it. But then Emma doesn't always ask the right questions. :conf2:

[Denver]

I didn't suggest that. Everyone has made up their mind that Kristina is the one at fault. Maybe their marriage was on the rocks already. No one knows... and yet everyone judges.

I'm sure it was well documented that their marriage was on the rocks way before he met Kristina?

Also they never got together till months after the marriage phis wife is just a jealous bitter bitch who never made him happy that's why she has to sell her story every 10 seconds and demands to be known everything they do in their relationship

[Edna Mode]

poor Ben :worry:

That evil homewrecker got her claws into him and ruined his happy marriage

I can't believe a witch like her scored such a hunk.

[Edna Mode]

we mustve missed a blow out between tiff/Kristina, otherwise it makes no sense

They would have showed it or tweeted about it.
I'm telling you, Kristina's specific dislike for Tiffany is questionably racist.

[Carl Jayson]

She's a pregnant hormonal mess who steals peoples boyfriends.

I so hope her fiance is cheating on her right now on the outside. That would make my day.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think she is worried about Tiffany attacking her as she has a violent past

[Carl Jayson]

I think she is worried about Tiffany attacking her as she has a violent past

If the HBIC of the house is going to hit anyone, it's going to be the fat flump Gemma

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2839454/new-york-fight-o.gif

And you know what they say, the BIGGER they are, the harder they FALL

http://rs1189.pbsrc.com/albums/z425/kimthanhvt63/GIF/NY_LMFAO.gif~c200

[jennyjuniper]

On the live feed just now Kristina said she found it shocking that Tiff fancy's Jeremy. Weird.

Not sure why that's so shocking.

Probably because Jeremy is single and the married ones are more Kristina's type!!:shrug:

[cassieparis]

They would have showed it or tweeted about it.
I'm telling you, Kristina's specific dislike for Tiffany is questionably racist.

Probably because Jeremy is single and the married ones are more Kristina's type!!:shrug:

I think Kristina sees Tiff's desire as something of an offence. Something that burdens the subject of her attention.

Its never occurred to that creased faced twit that Tiffany could be attracted to an Irish man because she is black and he is white.

The attraction just doesn't compute for Kristina and her limited thinking.
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