Double Standards are alive and well

[Niamh.]

Been reading alot of comments on FB about the Jeremy/Steph thing, so many people excusing Jeremy and blaming everything on Steph. Things like, "she's putting it out there, you can't blame him, he's a man after all" and "I feel sorry for Jeremy and Sam, they should run from that cheat"

Obviously Steph is mostly at fault but Jeremy deserves zero sympathy, he was well aware she had a b/f and if the genders were switched I bet it would play out differently.

I suddenly had flash backs to Hazel and Daleys series, most of the hate was towards Hazel for being a homewrecker. Will the world ever even up for this s**t?

Thoughts?

[Jarvio]

The nation are a bunch of idiots who always support male chavvy twats. Jeremy is a twat and deserves no sympathy.

[Tarryn]

Totally agree that it's double standards but Steph is the one in a relationship.
He tried to tell her to back off but she just would not accept it.
She seems so desperate it's pathetic.
SHE is the one cheating not him.
But yes, I do think it's unfair that he seems to be getting away with it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Been reading alot of comments on FB about the Jeremy/Steph thing, so many people excusing Jeremy and blaming everything on Steph. Things like, "she's putting it out there, you can't blame him, he's a man after all" and "I feel sorry for Jeremy and Sam, they should run from that cheat"

Obviously Steph is mostly at fault but Jeremy deserves zero sympathy, he was well aware she had a b/f and if the genders were switched I bet it would play out differently.

I suddenly had flash backs to Hazel and Daleys series, most of the hate was towards Hazel for being a homewrecker. Will the world ever even up for this s**t?

Thoughts?

Totally agree,he's no better than her

[Niamh.]

Totally agree that it's double standards but Steph is the one in a relationship.
He tried to tell her to back off but she just would not accept it.
She seems so desperate it's pathetic.
SHE is the one cheating not him.
But yes, I do think it's unfair that he seems to be getting away with it.

Yeah agree that she's worse but do you remember the Daley/Hazel time, she was definitely more hated on than Daley (even after the incident) and there she was single and he was in a relationship and he told her that he wasn't in a relationship too (eventhough she probably knew he was lying but still, Steph has never denied being in one so there's no confusion at all for Jeremy)

[Jamie89]

It makes me think of Chantelle and Preston. Pretty much exactly the same situation on the face of it from what I recall but with the genders switched. (Especially the 'non-celebrity' aspect :laugh: ) And Preston was really popular, I'm sure he didn't receive even a fraction of the criticism Steph is getting. And Chantelle of course ended up winning. So it is a bit odd. But maybe the reason Steph is getting as much criticism as she is, isn't just because of what she's doing and the fact she has a boyfriend, but because of her general behaviour and attitude regarding it. For example, the fact that she keeps blaming other people and Big Brother. And also that their relationship doesn't look genuine, whereas the Chantelle/Preston relationship did. So there are probably other factors other than just gender imo.

[Tarryn]

Yeah agree that she's worse but do you remember the Daley/Hazel time, she was definitely more hated on than Daley (even after the incident) and there she was single and he was in a relationship and he told her that he wasn't in a relationship too (eventhough she probably knew he was lying but still, Steph has never denied being in one so there's no confusion at all for Jeremy)

I remember that well.
The woman always comes off worse in these situations.
Look at Scotty, he is seen as a typical lad for bedding so many women but if a woman confessed to this she would be called a slag & much worse.
The one in a relationship is clearly cheating but the other one has to take responsibility too.

[EspeonBB]

I 100% agree Niamh :clap1: I knew Jeremy would get off Scot free when this storyline started

[joeysteele]

Been reading alot of comments on FB about the Jeremy/Steph thing, so many people excusing Jeremy and blaming everything on Steph. Things like, "she's putting it out there, you can't blame him, he's a man after all" and "I feel sorry for Jeremy and Sam, they should run from that cheat"

Obviously Steph is mostly at fault but Jeremy deserves zero sympathy, he was well aware she had a b/f and if the genders were switched I bet it would play out differently.

I suddenly had flash backs to Hazel and Daleys series, most of the hate was towards Hazel for being a homewrecker. Will the world ever even up for this s**t?

Thoughts?


I agree and Jeremy has chosen too to ignore all the talks and advice given by Scotty to him.

Really she should be the main one backing off but he should just say, ''you have a boyfriend, you are in a relationship,I'm not interested'', too.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I feel sorry for the both of them as they are in love

Steph seems to be trapped in an abusive relationship and is scared

Hopefully her vile bf will leave her alone to pursue her dreams with Jeremy

[Niamh.]

I feel sorry for the both of them as they are in love

Steph seems to be trapped in an abusive relationship and is scared

Hopefully her vile bf will leave her alone to pursue her dreams with Jeremy

Victim blaming :nono:

[Vicky.]

Yeah it is double standard from a lot of people, but she is the one in a relationship. I have seen people on DS fuming that Jeremy isn't getting equal blame, or even more blame...apparently he should resist temptation but she shouldnt...its all rather ridiculous.

Funny thing is, if Stephanie would stop going on about how much she supposedly loves her boyfriend, noone would even give a **** anymore. Its her own fault. I don't particularly care that she is cheating...it happens. What I do care about is her being ridiculous about it :joker:

[Marsh.]

I do think the onus is on Steph to set boundaries as she is the one in a relationship.

However, the double standards are annoying. Was the same with Hazel and Daley. Even after he practically throttled her it was apparently her own doing. :shrug:

[Niamh.]

I do think the onus is on Steph to set boundaries as she is the one in a relationship.

However, the double standards are annoying. Was the same with Hazel and Daley. Even after he practically throttled her it was apparently her own doing. :shrug:

yeah I agree of course Steph is more at fault but I don't think Jeremy is innocent either and deserves no sympathy at all, he knew what he was getting into

[Marsh.]

Very true. People like him really don't seem to have any morals when it comes to their dick.

[Niamh.]

Very true. People like him really don't seem to have any morals when it comes to their dick.

Oh no, it's not that Marsh, he loves her now, haven't you heard? :fan:

[girlfighter24]

Both Steph and Jeremy are to fault the funny thing about this storyline is that Steph went in to change public perception but she hasnt.

Another thing is it set up or real but one thing her boyfriend has gained a lot of publicity

[Niamh.]

Both Steph and Jeremy are to fault the funny thing about this storyline is that Steph went in to change public perception but she hasnt.

Another thing is it set up or real but one thing her boyfriend has gained a lot of publicity

mmm could very well be that too, they probably all have the same agent or PR person or some ****

[Marsh.]

Oh no, it's not that Marsh, he loves her now, haven't you heard? :fan:

:omgno:

Until he gets out and someone else grabs his short attention.

Like a magpie "ooh shiny!"

[reece(:]

Both are equally tragic. Jeremy isn't even a fun villain in this aspect like Hazel was.

[Marsh.]

Hazel was not a villain :fist:

[hot2go]

Some things will never change....women aren't allowed to leave men ....just look what the gutter press did to Princess Diana , Mrs Bob Geldof and Mrs Simpson....thru history it's always been that way....so there will be no special exception for an ex soap star like Stephanie...thems the rules folkes

[Vicky.]

Some things will never change....women aren't allowed to leave men ....just look what the gutter press did to Princess Diana , Mrs Bob Geldof and Mrs Simpson....thru history it's always been that way....so there will be no special exception for an ex soap star like Stephanie...thems the rules folkes

She's not trying to leave him though, she is publically trying to (as Jeremy put it :umm2: ) have her cake and eat it too. As I said I doubt anyone would give a crap without her blaming everyone else bar herself for it, and snivelling all over the place about how much she 'loves' Sam.

[hot2go]

But the reality of this situation is that the boy friend is prick anyway.....and really doesn't deserve anyone's tears ....I wish her luck

[Niamh.]

She's not trying to leave him though, she is publically trying to (as Jeremy put it :umm2: ) have her cake and eat it too. As I said I doubt anyone would give a crap without her blaming everyone else bar herself for it, and snivelling all over the place about how much she 'loves' Sam.

mmhhmm, actions speak louder than words. You don't treat the person you love with such callousness. If all this scenario is actually genuine and not just some plot concocted by their agent, then she's a horrible bitch, not only cheating on her b/f but doing it knowing that he's actually watching

[reece(:]

Hazel was not a villain :fist:
Missundaztood?

[hot2go]

She's not trying to leave him though, she is publically trying to (as Jeremy put it :umm2: ) have her cake and eat it too. As I said I doubt anyone would give a crap without her blaming everyone else bar herself for it, and snivelling all over the place about how much she 'loves' Sam.

Well she's gone into a house with locked doors and jumped into bed with another bloke....if that's not leaving him it's a pretty good impression ....but I don't judge her for doing that myself, I judge her for having such a prick for a boyfriend on the outside
And you are correct about the way she's handling it...if she does said bollox to everyone and made a clear decision about her own life then quite a few people wouldn't care what she got up to
I wish she'd go into the diary room and dump her fella...then no one in the house could say anything more to her about it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Stephanie's dress last night tho

:love:

[Marsh.]

This is the same girl who, in her VT, called herself a normal teenager who likes a drink despite being about 23. And the girl who tries to bullsh*t that she quit Hollyoaks despite her own agent confirming she was fired for ignoring warnings about attendance and alcohol consumption.

I don't think self awareness is her forte. :hehe:

[Niamh.]

This is the same girl who, in her VT, called herself a normal teenager who likes a drink despite being about 23. And the girl who tries to bullsh*t that she quit Hollyoaks despite her own agent confirming she was fired for ignoring warnings about attendance and alcohol consumption.

I don't think self awareness is her forte. :hehe:

23 year old who still sees herself as a child sounds about right for someone who never wants to accept any blame for their own actions and bad behaviour

[Cal.]

I 100% agree Niamh :clap1: I knew Jeremy would get off Scot free when this storyline started

.

If Jeremy had the girlfriend, Stephanie would just be labelled the 'homewrecker' like Hazel was.

[Dollface]

Jeremy isn't in a relationship though, Steph is the one that should have enough respect for her boyfriend to keep a distance from other guys. Imo it's always the fault of the person in the relationship.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Niamh.]

Jeremy isn't in a relationship though, Steph is the one that should have enough respect for her boyfriend to keep a distance from other guys. Imo it's always the fault of the person in the relationship.

I understand that but I think people who have any sort of morals wouldn't get together with someone who they knew had a partner and even worse in this case was actually watching everything play out on TV. Also, even if you think Jeremy is blameless, the thread is mainly about the double standards, if the genders were reversed everyone would be blaming the girl still and calling her a homewrecker

[Dollface]

I understand that but I think people who have any sort of morals wouldn't get together with someone who they knew had a partner and even worse in this case was actually watching everything play out on TV. Also, even if you think Jeremy is blameless, the thread is mainly about the double standards, if the genders were reversed everyone would be blaming the girl still and calling her a homewrecker

True, I could see that happening if the roles were reversed tbh.

[hot2go]

23 year old who still sees herself as a child sounds about right for someone who never wants to accept any blame for their own actions and bad behaviour

I agree....so if she's a twat for thinking she's a teenager at 23 what does that make Gemma who thinks she's a teenager at 34 ?

Sad, Desperate, Deluded ?

[Niamh.]

I agree....so if she's a twat for thinking she's a teenager at 23 what does that make Gemma who thinks she's a teenager at 34 ?

Sad, Desperate, Deluded ?

hahaha true

[Ammi]

..it did seem to cool slightly after she'd spoken to Megan about Sam/that she loved him, so I wonder why they seem a thing again..?../if they are, I didn't watch all of last nights....the thing is, she felt so judged for it, maybe rightly so but thee irony of what the others did/how they were speaking to her, wouldn't that surely push the relationship closer together, as she looked to Jeremy then for comfort etc...just really badly handled by all...(I don't know anything about her relationship/her boyfriend being abusive..?..)...

[smudgie]

Both come across as sleazy, it's come to something when Scotty takes the moral high ground:laugh:
Maybe they are both just too immature to realise what a proper relationship is about.

[Crimson Dynamo]

please see my thread about Jeremy saying he is in love

:smug:

[Ammi]

Both come across as sleazy, it's come to something when Scotty takes the moral high ground:laugh:
Maybe they are both just too immature to realise what a proper relationship is about.

..maybe less moral high ground with Scotty, Smudgie..(and Megan even..)...and more wanting to be the two with the romance and get the media interest...:whistle:..

[Niamh.]

please see my thread about Jeremy saying he is in love

:smug:

My thread you mean? :idc:

[Crimson Dynamo]

My thread you mean? :idc:

my thread its been hanging for ages

:fist:


* looks back at forum, sees its moved, looks to see why...


oh:shocked:

[Niamh.]

my thread its been hanging for ages

:fist:


* looks back at forum, sees its moved, looks to see why...


oh:shocked:

Oh indeed :hee:

[Braden]

I don't know if it shocks me that barely anyone has criticized Jeremy.

Men get away with a lot more in these types of situations, imo. He's attempting to pursue a romantic relationship with someone who has a boyfriend, and most people (inside and outside the house) seem to think that's okay.

The worst of it is that I don't think Jeremy even likes Stephanie in that way. It's strategy in order to get himself some attention.

[Lostie!]

Completely agree.

This is why I can't warm to Scotty, he's always acting like Stephanie is solely at fault and Jeremy is just some poor guy being manipulated by her.

[waterhog]

Been reading alot of comments on FB about the Jeremy/Steph thing, so many people excusing Jeremy and blaming everything on Steph. Things like, "she's putting it out there, you can't blame him, he's a man after all" and "I feel sorry for Jeremy and Sam, they should run from that cheat"

Obviously Steph is mostly at fault but Jeremy deserves zero sympathy, he was well aware she had a b/f and if the genders were switched I bet it would play out differently.

I suddenly had flash backs to Hazel and Daleys series, most of the hate was towards Hazel for being a homewrecker. Will the world ever even up for this s**t?

Thoughts?


if there is a romance - there is money to be made and there is a story .zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:sleep:

[Vicky.]

Completely agree.

This is why I can't warm to Scotty, he's always acting like Stephanie is solely at fault and Jeremy is just some poor guy being manipulated by her.

Tbf we HAVE actually seen her manipulating him :laugh: It may have happened more than the time we saw...

[Niamh.]

Anyone watch beauty School Cop Out when he was on, I saw someone on FB post that he did the same thing on that, went off with a girl who had a b/f

[Lostie!]

Tbf we HAVE actually seen her manipulating him :laugh: It may have happened more than the time we saw...

Have we?

To be perfectly honest she doesn't strike me as switched-on enough to be this master manipulator / femme fatale that she's being caricatured as.

[Vicky.]

Have we?

To be perfectly honest she doesn't strike me as switched-on enough to be this master manipulator / femme fatale that she's being caricatured as.

When he tried (feebly...could have stuck to his guns mind) to cool it, and she started blubbing on and that and just blatantly refused to accept it playing poor me poor me...IMO that was manipulation. Its the only time I would say she has mind (that we have seen)

[Lostie!]

When he tried (feebly...could have stuck to his guns mind) to cool it, and she started blubbing on and that and just blatantly refused to accept it playing poor me poor me...IMO that was manipulation. Its the only time I would say she has mind (that we have seen)

Ah yeah, fair enough. :laugh:

But I still think Scotty's assessment of the situation as a whole is a tad biased in favour of his friend, Jeremy's a grown man with his own mind who earned his fair share of the blame by going there in the first place.

[Natalie.]

Of course Steph is mostly to blame but it really annoys me.

[Cherie]

Daley got off Scott free as Helen tempted him, Jez gets off as Steph is the one with the B/F it's generally the woman in the wrong whatever the scenario :shrug:

[chuff me dizzy]

I find Scott trying to come over all righteous a tad pathetic,no doubt in his shagging career he's slept with someone else's girlfriend

[Rob!]

People also seem to have completely by passed the fact that Scotty pretty much admitted the other night that he was seeing someone before he went in the house and met Megan. But you know...lads.

[Niamh.]

People also seem to have completely by passed the fact that Scotty pretty much admitted the other night that he was seeing someone before he went in the house and met Megan. But you know...lads.

Yeah he's a man he can do whatever he wants

[alex_front2]

Double standard exist for a reason. I think we know why. So called double standards will never go away. In fact they are increasing. The word slore didn't exist 20 years ago.

Feminazis will never be men and need to grow up and get over it.

[Niamh.]

Double standard exist for a reason. I think we know why. So called double standards will never go away. In fact they are increasing. The word slore didn't exist 20 years ago.

Feminazis will never be men and need to grow up and get over it.

Didn't exist for me 20 seconds ago tbh

[Vicky.]

People also seem to have completely by passed the fact that Scotty pretty much admitted the other night that he was seeing someone before he went in the house and met Megan. But you know...lads.

Its hardly the same situation though. Scotty hasnt been crying about his girlfriend each morning after sleeping with Megan on a night :laugh:

Double standard exist for a reason. I think we know why. So called double standards will never go away. In fact they are increasing. The word slore didn't exist 20 years ago.

Feminazis will never be men and need to grow up and get over it.

What on earth is a slore?

[Northern Monkey]

Personally i would always blame the person in the relationship unless it was a close mates gf.
Jeremy does'nt know Sam,Why would he care about that?He's got a girl that he likes(for some unknown reason) throwing herself at him.The fact that she's got a boyfriend makes her the slag.

[Northern Monkey]

Didn't exist for me 20 seconds ago tbh

Haha!
me too.