Does Channel 5 BB need more late entrants?

[Cal.]

In the later years of C4 BB, late entrants become a staple and in BB8/BB10/BB11 it felt like new housemates were entering every week. Do you think that Channel 5 BB needs more late entrants per series or do you like they fact they only stick to a few per series? (BB12 and BB13 only having 1, BB14 having none, BB15 having 3 and BB16 having 4 as opposed to 8/9 late entrants per series in the later C4 days)

[Pete.]

Yes if they are Harry Amelia and Sam Kay

[Denver]

I think we need more as the last few series we were left with a lot of unlikeable people

[Marsh.]

No.

We don't need immigrants in BB too.

[Jason.]

Yeah, but not too many. The amount we had in BB7-11 got ridiculous. Especially in BB8.

About 3 newcomers to enter around Week 3/4 in a 10 week series.

[LukeB]

Yes if they are Sam Kay

I agree

[Jason.]

and I want them to enter the normal way too. I've noticed every newcomer on C5 has entered as part of some sort of twist which annoys me. Just have a normal eviction and leave room at the end of the show for the newcomers to come out of the eye and enter the house with their VT being shown etc.

[Cal.]

One production picked newcomer should enter every Friday night for the first 5 weeks imo

[Mystic Mock]

That's the one thing that Ch5 shouldn't change as Ch4 would ruin their series in the second half by turning it into a brand new Big Brother.

[Jason.]

One production picked newcomer should enter every Friday night for the first 5 weeks imo

What a silly idea http://i.imgur.com/gOpSJc7.gif

[Cal.]

What a silly idea http://i.imgur.com/gOpSJc7.gif

It would work well and ensure there were lots of good housemates left. And if the newbies weren't good they would just protect the originals from eviction (which I'm pretty sure is what C4 used to do anyway)

1st Newcomer - Day 8
2nd Newcomer - Day 15
3rd Newcomer - Day 22
4th Newcomer - Day 29
5th Newcomer - Day 36

It would work wellhttp://i.imgur.com/gOpSJc7.gif

[zakman440]

I'd say that it needs a new production team first and foremost, but I wouldn't object to more latecomers if they don't put loads of housemates in on launch night.

[Cal.]

I'd say that it needs a new production team first and foremost, but I wouldn't object to more latecomers if they don't put loads of housemates in on launch night.

12 on launch and 6 newbies imo

[Marsh.]

Hashtag SackCal

[Firewire]

as long as they're good

Sam, Harry Amelia and Jem were all really good. I liked Zoe and Biannca too.

Pav and Marq flopped

[Cal.]

as long as they're good

Sam, Harry Amelia and Jem were all really good. I liked Zoe and Biannca too.

Pav and Marq flopped

Biannca should be put in as a late entrant every series

[Cal.]

If I was appointed producer you would all rejoice lbrhttp://49.media.tumblr.com/675df19a2ee380f15be92d72559c3552/tumblr_o1a3mfuBEM1uxnkpto8_250.gif

[Cal.]

16 women and 2 men in on launch!

5 women and 1 man in on Day 36!

[Cal.]

I've ruined my own thread.

[Jason.]

It would work well and ensure there were lots of good housemates left. And if the newbies weren't good they would just protect the originals from eviction (which I'm pretty sure is what C4 used to do anyway)

1st Newcomer - Day 8
2nd Newcomer - Day 15
3rd Newcomer - Day 22
4th Newcomer - Day 29
5th Newcomer - Day 36

It would work wellhttp://i.imgur.com/gOpSJc7.gif

Well first of all, we could wish C5 would launch a Civilian BB on Friday again for those days to correlate (Day 8,15,22 etc). And I get where you're coming from, but dripping them in one by one every week is just messy. And 5 is way too many for a 9-10 week series given we usually get 16 housemates at Launch. And Week 1-2 is too early for newcomers as it's just too soon and we're still getting to know the originals. By Week 3-4, it feels more fresh putting 3 new ones in. Anything after Week 5 is too late, unless it's a 11-13 week series. With BB15 having the newbies enter a month before the final was too late I found, they should've entered around Matthew's eviction.

[Jason.]

16 women and 2 men in on launch!

5 women and 1 man in on Day 36!

nnn

[Jason.]

Not here for 5 fat bitches entering the same night that Saskia is unfairly evicted :nono:

[Jack_]

I miss the days when we'd get three newbies in week 3 and then another five around week 5/6 in a twist (like the HND), so I'd say yes

[Cal.]

Well first of all, we could wish C5 would launch a Civilian BB on Friday again for those days to correlate (Day 8,15,22 etc). And I get where you're coming from, but dripping them in one by one every week is just messy. And 5 is way too many for a 9-10 week series given we usually get 16 housemates at Launch. And Week 1-2 is too early for newcomers as it's just too soon and we're still getting to know the originals. By Week 3-4, it feels more fresh putting 3 new ones in. Anything after Week 5 is too late, unless it's a 11-13 week series. With BB15 having the newbies enter a month before the final was too late I found, they should've entered around Matthew's eviction.

I find your ideas racist and insane. http://i.imgur.com/gOpSJc7.gif

[Cal.]

Not here for 5 fat bitches entering the same night that Saskia was unfairly evicted :nono:

If I was producer I'd immediately send Saskia back in and immediately evict Eugene.

[Jason.]

If I was producer I'd immediately send Saskia back in and immediately evict Eugene.

I love you so much http://i.imgur.com/gOpSJc7.gif

[Cal.]

(Also Jason I think late late entries work well)

Kinga/Nikki both brightened up the final weeks of BB6 and BB7. I wouldn't mind someone being added in like 2 weeks before the final.

[Jason.]

Rig for Kose and Saskia F2 with Makosi winning

[Jason.]

Nikki wasn't a newcomer tho. Stop being so silly.

But yeah Kinga was an exception as she practically tried to cram 11 weeks worth of the Big Brother experience in 11 days :lovedup:

[Cal.]

Rig for Kose and Saskia F2 with Makosi winning

I can confirm the Final 6 would be Makosi, Saskia, Derek, Kemal, Craig and Kinga.

[Jack_]

In fact, one of the things I used to love most about C4 BB was the anticipation for week 5's eviction, where Davina would usually introduce the series' big twist (HND, Fake Week, Heaven vs Hell) :love: it was always really exciting and was actually a big, creative, innovative (okay maybe not with the divide 2.0) twist...now we get ****ty little 'twists' that are pathetic every ****ing week

Oh how I miss those days :(

[Cal.]

Nikki wasn't a newcomer tho. Stop being so silly.

But yeah Kinga was an exception as she practically tried to cram 11 weeks worth of the Big Brother experience in 11 days :lovedup:

If you got a crazy bitchy hm in on Day 57 with a final on Day 71 it would work wellhttp://49.media.tumblr.com/675df19a2ee380f15be92d72559c3552/tumblr_o1a3mfuBEM1uxnkpto8_250.gif

[Jason.]

Winner - Makosi
2nd - Kemal
3rd- Saskia (3rd place kween)
4th - Derek (I love him tmore than Saskia but Saskia needs the status)
5th - Kinga
6th - Craig

[Cal.]

Nikki wasn't a newcomer tho. Stop being so silly.

But yeah Kinga was an exception as she practically tried to cram 11 weeks worth of the Big Brother experience in 11 days :lovedup:

I also felt really bad for Kinga on the final highlights when she was drunk and was in the DR nearly crying asking them why they didn't put her in on Day 1 :(

[Jason.]

Ik, the stuff she said in the Inside Story book was so heartbreaking </3

[Cal.]

Ik, the stuff she said in the Inside Story book was so heartbreaking </3

I'm glad she got her experience in the end. She got to do the mid-series twist, she got to re-enter and do a nominations round, survived 2 evictions and made the final so she essentially got the whole experience condensed into the 15 days she did.

[Jason.]

In fact, one of the things I used to love most about C4 BB was the anticipation for week 5's eviction, where Davina would usually introduce the series' big twist (HND, Fake Week, Heaven vs Hell) :love: it was always really exciting and was actually a big, creative, innovative (okay maybe not with the divide 2.0) twist...now we get ****ty little 'twists' that are pathetic every ****ing week

Oh how I miss those days :(

I miss when twists were these big events as something to look forwards to (Bedsit, Secret Garden, HND, Golden Ticket, Ex-HM Return, Fake Week, Divide, etc), nowadays it's these crappy mini nominations based twists to save their favourite.

[Cal.]

4in4out and Time Warp Bunker were 'events'. 4in4out was **** though.

[Jason.]

I'm glad she got her experience in the end. She got to do the mid-series twist, she got to re-enter and do a nominations round, survived 2 evictions and made the final so she essentially got the whole experience condensed into the 15 days she did.


nnn at her getting more votes to win than Craig who'd been in there since the start and she only entered 10 days prior <333

[Jason.]

4in4out and Time Warp Bunker were 'events'. 4in4out was **** though.

I guess, but Secret Rooms are done to death now. The last time a Secret Room felt like an event was the Safehouse in BB14 (that was amazing and actually felt like a C4 twist with the excitement and anticipation behind it)

[Cal.]

nnn at her getting more votes to win than Craig who'd been in there since the start and she only entered 10 days prior <333

Queen :love:

I'm glad that happened even though I prefer Craig. Her leaving in a mid week eviction in her everyday clothes whilst smelling of Chinese takeaway would have just summed up her experience.

[Cal.]

They need to not with secret rooms. If they wanna save their fave so desperately do the 'Immunity Weekend' if they must.

[Jason.]

Queen :love:

I'm glad that happened even though I prefer Craig. Her leaving in a mid week eviction in her everyday clothes whilst smelling of Chinese takeaway would have just summed up her experience.

this made me laugh idk why

[Cal.]

Biannca and Shanessa are the most robbed newcomers by far.

[Jack_]

Actually, to be fair the Time Bunker was probably the closest to C4 esque excitement I've had about a twist since the show moved to C5

4In4Out however remains the worst series-ruining twist ever, knocking the quad eviction off the top spot

[Jason.]

They need to not with secret rooms. If they wanna save their fave so desperately do the 'Immunity Weekend' if they must.

I just wish they wouldn't meddle at all. If their fave go, they go. Bring new HM's in if it gets too dull or something. The twists in BB15 :skull:

[Cal.]

4 in on it's own would have been good. 4 out could have happened on the Tuesday night before the Thursday night final.

[Jason.]

I would've been excited for the TimeWarp Bunker thing had they not done a pointless secret room in BB15 and CBB15. Cause then it would've been a while (since CBB13) that we hadn't had one. And 4in4out kind of killed any excitement I had for BB16 tbh

[Cal.]

I just wish they wouldn't meddle at all. If their fave go, they go. Bring new HM's in if it gets too dull or something. The twists in BB15 :skull:

I don't mind manipulation if it isn't too serious. Marc/Perez manipulation was severe but the way C4 did it/attempted it was okay. Like the immunity challenge meant for Grace in BB7 (even though Lisa won it) and Charley's fake eviction at the end of fake week in BB8 were good attempts.

[Cal.]

Welp BB15 and CBB15's secret rooms where production decided who went in lmao

[Jason.]

I don't mind manipulation if it isn't too serious. Marc/Perez manipulation was severe but the way C4 did it/attempted it was okay. Like the immunity challenge meant for Grace in BB7 (even though Lisa won it) and Charley's fake eviction at the end of fake week in BB8 were good attempts.

Oh yeah IA. C4 were so much more smart in manipulating it for their faves in a way that it didn't ruin the format entirely like BB15/16 did. Also nulling and voiding people's nominations as punishment in order to save Charley in BB8. Things like that are smart. But C5 just take it too far.

[Cal.]

It's actually so bad in BB15 bc they actually had Emma record Helen's fake eviction announcement.

[Jason.]

Ikr. I still can't @ Helen's secret room

[Jack_]

4 in on it's own would have been good. 4 out could have happened on the Tuesday night before the Thursday night final.

Don't suggest they ever repeat the quad eviction again :nono: ESPECIALLY under vote to evict (which it would be atm). It is series ruining

[Jason.]

Perez's one was done so he wouldn't walk

[Cal.]

Don't suggest they ever repeat the quad eviction again :nono: ESPECIALLY under vote to evict (which it would be atm). It is series ruining

4 good people leaving on Day 64>4 good people leaving on Day 18.

[Babayaro.]

I think it totally depends on the length of the series

[Jason.]

BB16 is a massive mess. BB15 felt more organised and worked more like a BB series than BB16 did. THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING

[Cal.]

BB16 was tragic bc it felt like a new series begun after an eviction on a Friday and ended again with the following Friday eviction.

I would take a BB15 over a BB16 any day.

[Jason.]

Same. At least BB15 actually felt like a BB series.

Emma saying "Join us next Friday for our seventh live eviction" on Day 25 is just wrong

[Jason.]

BB15's launch :lovedup:

[Cal.]

Same. At least BB15 actually felt like a BB series.

Emma saying "Join us next Friday for our seventh live eviction" on Day 25 is just wrong

Lmao.

And not Marc being the 10th person to be evicted in week 8.

[Cal.]

BB16's launch was far better.

It being daylight, the cars being shown on the screen, actual civilians entering the house>>>>BB15's Apprentice launch.

[LukeB]

BB15's launch :lovedup:

It should never have been a two day launch tbh with voting for the power housemate. It was unfair on the day 2 housemates not to be included and they deffo had no chance in getting that final pass. it was obvious going to to a day 1 housemate.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I get why intruders get hyped up a lot but I feel like it's often all hype? The most common pattern we see is the rest of the original housemates banding together and becoming self-righteous and trying to get the intruders out because "they don't deserve it as much" and "they haven't been here as long" and it's just nasty and boring and played out. Even in series like BB8 and BB15 where the originals ****ing HATE each other, they still grouped together to mass nominate the intruders. Hell, even in BB15 the Day 1 people were sanctimonious as **** towards the Day 2 people. It's absurd.

[Jason.]

BB16's launch was flat I thought. And it was quite dark as it was early May and it doesn't really begin to get dark late till like late-May/early June.

Like if you watch when Tamara entered, it's light outside but when Kieron entered the house in BB16, it was getting dark.

Although I did love the cars - that was a nice touch.

[Cal.]

BB16's launch was flat I thought. And it was quite dark as it was early May and it doesn't really begin to get dark late till like late-May/early June.

Like if you watch when Tamara entered, it's light outside but when Kieron entered the house in BB16, it was getting dark.

Although I did love the cars - that was a nice touch.

BB16 was the better launch by far in my opinion. Only thing wrong with it was the Day 1 eviction and the non-live house tour.

[Jason.]

Although BB15's launch would've been better had it not had a split launch.

[Marsh.]

It should never have been a two day launch tbh with voting for the power housemate. It was unfair on the day 2 housemates not to be included and they deffo had no chance in getting that final pass. it was obvious going to to a day 1 housemate.

Helen hopping on the prize faster than a knob and riding it all the way to the final. :clap1:

[Jason.]

BB14's >>>>

Felt like an event. Emma hosting for the first time, amazing house tour, light outside <33

[Marsh.]

Only thing wrong with it was the Day 1 eviction and the non-live house tour.

And the house. And the housemates. And the design/graphics. And the format. And the presenters. And BOTS. And Timebomb in general.

[Marsh.]

BB14's >>>>

Felt like an event. Emma hosting for the first time, amazing house tour, light outside <33

:clap1:

[Cal.]

And the house. And the housemates. And the design/graphics. And the format. And the presenters. And BOTS. And Timebomb in general.

Liked house. Liked housemates. Graphics were okay. Format was bad. Liked presenters. Liked BOTS. Hated Timebomb.

[Jason.]

I re-watched BB13's launch last month and it was awful. Amazing series, but the launch :skull:

No house tour, Brian Dowling, inconsistent (some housemates walked out of the eye without the chaperones, and then the last few females walked with a chaperone), the show girls, the VT's were all like 40 seconds too. I didn't like.

[Cal.]

Deana nominating someone she had only met 30 minutes previous for having evil eyes>>>>

[LukeB]

Do they pick random who goes in when? or do you think this person has to go in 5th, this person has to go in last etc

[Cal.]

Also lol @ them explaining why Deana got the nomination decision when in CBB14 they gave Dee the chance to be immune just for being on benefits bc it would be funny seeing her act as a royal heir and in CBB15 they give Katie Hopkins automatic immunity for just being Katie Hopkins.

[Jason.]

And them revealing Deana's secret mission outside before she entered. It should've been in the Diary Room tbh.

[Macie Lightfoot]

And to add to my complaints about intruders, they're almost evicted immediately as part of a twist, evicted after two or three weeks because they're hated by everyone despite being generically nice, or they're a boring hot guy who coasts to a fifth place finish in the final.

[Jason.]

Do they pick random who goes in when? or do you think this person has to go in 5th, this person has to go in last etc

I'm not sure with BB, but with CBB I think they decide and they usually put the most famous/anticipated name first and last in, I've noticed.

[Cal.]

Do they pick random who goes in when? or do you think this person has to go in 5th, this person has to go in last etc

I think in CBB someone really famous usually goes in first and last.

In the normal one it's probably random - although I think Nadia demanded to enter last in BB5.

[Jason.]

She did Cal. She said it in the book lmao. She told them to put her in last. <33

[LukeB]

I'm not sure with BB, but with CBB I think they decide and they usually put the most famous/anticipated name first and last in, I've noticed.

Gemma Collins went in first this season.. she's not that famous tbh:laugh:

[Cal.]

Gemma Collins went in first this season.. she's not that famous tbh:laugh:

She was by far the most anticipated of the series though.

Not sure why Nancy went in last tho. I would have put David or Jonathon in last.

[Jason.]

She's bigger than most of the names in this years cast tho lbr.

[Jason.]

Jim Davidson and KH also entering first - they were big names

[Cal.]

Although in my opinion they should have put Danniella and then Christopher in.

[Jason.]

Chloe Goodman entered CBB15 last on launch I swear

[Marsh.]

And to add to my complaints about intruders, they're almost evicted immediately as part of a twist, evicted after two or three weeks because they're hated by everyone despite being generically nice, or they're a boring hot guy who coasts to a fifth place finish in the final.

Someone still isn't over Can'tHira.

[LukeB]

who walked in first in CBB16?

[Jason.]

Cheban

[Cal.]

who walked in first in CBB16?

Sherrie Hewson lmao.

[Jason.]

oh CBB16 lmao

[Jason.]

mess I thought he was asking who walked from the house first in CBB 2016 :facepalm:

[LukeB]

Sherrie Hewson lmao.

oooh welp

[Jason.]

-waits for Ross to immediately pop up as we mentioned her name-

[Cal.]

Although they saved Janice and Bobby for the second night.

[Vicky.]

Nope, I tend to dislike late entrants. I think the only exception to that was Marc, and even then looking back I think I only liked him as the rest of the house were so boring :laugh:

[iRyan]

I like late entrants but it has to be the right time, not too late and not too early. I think around Week 4 is the best time.

[DanielM787]

Queen Adjoa

[reece(:]

Aisleyne came on Day 12 and that still felt alright though

[TomC]

BB16 was absolutely ridiculous. They may as well have had a revolving door. To have 16 HMs on launch night, then 3 more on Day 18, then 3 guests on Day 32, then another on Day 44, and five overnight guests in the Hotel BB task was just ridiculous. I think that's why I struggled to have strong opinions on the HMs last year. To have 3 newbies on Day 25 would have been fine.