When Will BB17 Launch?

[callum2122]

The last series, BB16, launched really early in May, and it seemed to cost the series dearly. Do you think the series will launch in May again or go back to the usual June Launch night?

[TomC]

There's no way of knowing yet. All we know is that it will be either May or June.

[zakman440]

Rumour has it that it could launch in May again this year (http://www.bbspy.co.uk/cbb17/news/1105/channel-5-reveals-first-big-brother-2016-details-seeks-new-sponsor-may-launch-on-cards#ixzz3qfDaEeok), however due to Emma being pregnant this could be pushed back into June.

[Jamesy]

It has to go back to a June launch to have any hope of doing better than last year.

[Jason.]

I'd like a Wednesday 25th May Launch. Late May like the old C4 days. But due to Emma being pregnant and her baby due on 8th May, if they had to have a June launch, it should be either Wednesday 1st June or Friday 10th June (if they want it quite late like BB14)

[TomC]

Here for a Wednesday launch.

[Moosething]

Early June pls

[Ross.]

Early June launch please

[Jason.]

Wednesday 1 June?

[TomC]

Wednesday 1 June?

Sounds good to me.

[Jason.]

This would be ideal for me tbh

Launch - Wednesday 1 June 2016
Final - Friday 12 August 2016
Duration = 73 Days

Or end it on Friday 5 August if they want it short like BB12 and BB16.

[TomC]

This would be ideal for me tbh

Launch - Wednesday 1 June 2016
Final - Friday 12 August 2016
Duration = 73 Days

Or end it on Friday 5 August if they want it short like BB12 and BB16.

Yeah it finished far too early last year, didn't feel right.

[Jason.]

Unfortunately C5 never do things right so BB17 will launch in March or something idk

[Visage]

Early June would be my option

[Firewire]

First week in June pls :fc:

[alex_front2]

Saw this on another site - hope it wets your appetite!

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[reece(:]

Emma's pregnancy saving the show :clap1:

[Samm]

June is the perfect time

[Denver]

You all do realise that it will be destroyed in the ratings by the Euros and Olympics?

[TomC]

You all do realise that it will be destroyed in the ratings by the Euros and Olympics?

The impact of the football will be minimal I think. I don't think the cross over between BB viewers and football viewers is significant. And they could have it wrapped up before the Olympics easily.

[Samm]

Does anyone care here about the Olympics anyway since it's in a different country? I don't

[TomC]

Possibly not. BB13's ratings were OK even with London 2012. And do rating even mean that much?

[Denver]

Does anyone care here about the Olympics anyway since it's in a different country? I don't

The Beijing Olympics were a hit in the ratings :umm2:

[TomC]

The Beijing Olympics were a hit in the ratings :umm2:

But BB13 is the only C5 series to clash with the Olympics, and it's C5's second highest rated series.

[Jason.]

I don't think the Olympics will affect ratings that much given it's in Rio this year so different time zones etc. With London 2012 during BB13, it was in the UK so it was inevitable that it would clash as it's the same time zone. With BB9, the Beijing Olympics didn't really affect ratings whatsoever.

Also, depending on whether the series launches early or not and the duration, the series could well finish before the Olympics or just about before it begins. For example, if they launch it on 1st June and the series is 66 days long like BB16, the series would end on Friday 5th August - which is also the day of the opening ceremony.

[TomC]

They wouldn't clash the final and the BB final I hope :worry:

[Jason.]

They'll probably have a mid-week and end it a day earlier on the Thursday if that turns out to be the case, but I doubt it'll be like what I've said above.

[TomC]

I think it will definitely have started by 1st of June, maybe up to a week earlier than that, and end on Thursday 4th August like you said.

[Jason.]

Maybe a 25th-27th May Launch and it ends on the week beginning 1st August.

[TomC]

What do we think the chances are that someone will stand in for Emma?

[Jason.]

I don't see why she needs a stand-in tbh. It's only just a few hours on a Friday night, once a week, for like 2 months. Plus she doesn't present BOTS anymore, so she's free the other 6 nights a week.

[Rob!]

It surely makes sense to start later this year to give Emma time to not be pregnant anymore and to build all this extra stuff?

[Cal.]

I don't think the Olympics will affect ratings that much given it's in Rio this year so different time zones etc. With London 2012 during BB13, it was in the UK so it was inevitable that it would clash as it's the same time zone. With BB9, the Beijing Olympics didn't really affect ratings whatsoever.

Also, depending on whether the series launches early or not and the duration, the series could well finish before the Olympics or just about before it begins. For example, if they launch it on 1st June and the series is 66 days long like BB16, the series would end on Friday 5th August - which is also the day of the opening ceremony.

mess not the final getting like 100k viewers

[Cal.]

They should launch on 1st June and end on 4th August ia.

[MB.]

To be honest I'd rather they began early (by which I mean late-ish May) with Rylan hosting the first few weeks of a longer series than risk running into the Olympics/have to shorten it because of the Olympics

[Rob!]

To be honest I'd rather they began early (by which I mean late-ish May) with Rylan hosting the first few weeks of a longer series than risk running into the Olympics/have to shorten it because of the Olympics

I would rather it face 66 opening ceremonies than Rylan presenting

[Jason.]

I think they should just launch it on Wednesday 1st June and make the series 65 days long and end it on Thursday 4th August, the day before the opening ceremony.

That way it's not too early for Emma as opposed to a May launch as her baby would've been due three weeks prior and it doesn't face the Olympics, so clashing isn't a problem

(plus 65 days isn't that short. I mean do we really want a longer BB given how it's been the past two years)

[MB.]

Given the amount of money they seem to be willing to pump into this series, plus the talk of a revamp from people like Ben Frow, yes, I would want a longer BB

[TomC]

Who knows. It's all down to whether Emma will have a replacement or not IMO. But 9 weeks is still quite long enough I guess.

[Jason.]

Let's face it, I think the CBB series that just ended proved that those "supposed" changes for 2016 aren't going to happen for BB17. It'll just be a re-hash of the last two years because it's gotten to the point where the producers just won't learn anymore.

[Cal.]

I would love a 78 day series like BB6 but not possible this year.

[Jason.]

Also it's not really any shorter than the average 10 weeks/60-something days we've had in every other C5 series.

[TomC]

Let's face it, I think the CBB series that just ended proved that those "supposed" changes for 2016 aren't going to happen for BB17. It'll just be a re-hash of the last two years because it's gotten to the point where the producers just won't learn anymore.

Yep, CBB17 was trash. And the messing with noms has literally been happening for 3 years now so I don't know what would make them stop now :worry:

[MB.]

Let's face it, I think the CBB series that just ended proved that those "supposed" changes for 2016 aren't going to happen for BB17. It'll just be a re-hash of the last two years because it's gotten to the point where the producers just won't learn anymore.

Those changes were promised for BB17, not the entirety of 2016

[MB.]

And if CBB17 was "trash" then I think I've been watching the wrong series for the past four weeks

[Jason.]

The only time we'll ever get a series longer than 10 weeks on C5 is if it averages 2.0m or above and it'll be extended due to ratings success like CBB13 was.

Either that or they cancel summer CBB and make BB thirteen weeks again, like how it was supposed to be originally

[TomC]

And if CBB17 was "trash" then I think I've been watching the wrong series for the past four weeks

In terms of nominations meddling, it certainly was. One of the worst they done.

Can I just say how it's so weird how we now have literally as much CBB as BB.

[MB.]

Again, if you're judging the quality of a series based solely on the amount of production meddling - especially nowadays - then I think you're setting the bar far too high for yourself

[Jason.]

Those changes were promised for BB17, not the entirety of 2016

Does it really matter? They seem to be taking CBB (their most successful show) down the same route as the Civilian BB with all the production flaws. I know I'm being cynical here, but they've tampered with the format so much in BB15/16 to point where I haven't much hope for future series. I'd love if I was wrong and they do turn it around and actually learn from the mistakes they've been making continuously since 2014 but we'll see.

[TomC]

Again, if you're judging the quality of a series based solely on the amount of production meddling - especially nowadays - then I think you're setting the bar far too high for yourself

I think it is reasonable to get annoyed when a HM (Megan) was evicted when they shouldn't even have been up.

[Jason.]

Again, if you're judging the quality of a series based solely on the amount of production meddling - especially nowadays - then I think you're setting the bar far too high for yourself

Not really, given the show wasn't like that (well not to the extremely high and damaging extent that it is now) back in 2011-2012, when it was on 5. Especially during BB13 (the best C5 series).

[MB.]

I think it is reasonable to get annoyed when a HM (Megan) was evicted when they shouldn't even have been up.

True, but there are so many factors that come into play with the show (production, casting, tasks, boot order, reception to name but a few) that it doesn't really do a series as perfectly acceptable as CBB17 if you narrow down on one negative aspect so firmly, especially now that we've nearly grown numb to a set of rules so bizarre as Channel 5-era BB's

[MB.]

Not really, given the show wasn't like that (well not to the extremely high and damaging extent that it is now) back in 2011-2012, when it was on 5. Especially during BB13 (the best C5 series).

Well BB12 was a **** series so, y'know, maybe that proves my point?

[TomC]

Well BB12 was a **** series so, y'know, maybe that proves my point?

I'd take a slightly dull series with strict rules over a crazy one with loads of manipulation personally. The latter leaves a sour taste

[Denver]

Let's face it, I think the CBB series that just ended proved that those "supposed" changes for 2016 aren't going to happen for BB17. It'll just be a re-hash of the last two years because it's gotten to the point where the producers just won't learn anymore.
Wouldn't they mean the house when they say big changes?

[Jason.]

Well BB12 was a **** series so, y'know, maybe that proves my point?

BB15 and BB16 were also **** (some would even say worse than BB12).

And BB12 was only rubbish because of the casting. The production then was way better than it is now and had a much more consistent format.

[Oaker]

tbh nominations twists in CBB really don't bother me, since everyone is getting paid anyway and I just want it to be entertaining for the month.

In BB it annoys me since everyone is actually competing to win money, so it's unfair if they start fixing it for certain Housemates or do pointless twists that get people who have done nothing wrong and were never nominated evicted.

[Will.]

tbh nominations twists in CBB really don't bother me, since everyone is getting paid anyway and I just want it to be entertaining for the month.

In BB it annoys me since everyone is actually competing to win money, so it's unfair if they start fixing it for certain Housemates or do pointless twists that get people who have done nothing wrong and were never nominated evicted.

^

[MB.]

BB15 and BB16 were also **** (some would even say worse than BB12).

And BB12 was only rubbish because of the casting. The production then was way better than it is now and had a much more consistent format.

Which is my point about not honing in on one negative aspect of a series

[Jason.]

I could live with it in CBB.

But alol, I mean this is a production that managed to produce a series which was even worse than BB15 the following year. Like you'd have to be ****ed up to do that and they did it well, hence why I don't hold out much hope for BB17.

[TomC]

True, but there are so many factors that come into play with the show (production, casting, tasks, boot order, reception to name but a few) that it doesn't really do a series as perfectly acceptable as CBB17 if you narrow down on one negative aspect so firmly, especially now that we've nearly grown numb to a set of rules so bizarre as Channel 5-era BB's

But literally the whole show is built on the nomination process in its current format, and so it's is a very important aspect.

tbh nominations twists in CBB really don't bother me, since everyone is getting paid anyway and I just want it to be entertaining for the month.

In BB it annoys me since everyone is actually competing to win money, so it's unfair if they start fixing it for certain Housemates or do pointless twists that get people who have done nothing wrong and were never nominated evicted.

That's a very good point actually :clap1:

[MB.]

But literally the whole show is built on the nomination process in its current format, and so it's is a very important aspect.

It hasn't relied on regular diary room nominations each week since BB4 - formats evolve, and it's a TV show they're making here

[TomC]

It hasn't relied on regular diary room nominations each week since BB4 - formats evolve, and it's a TV show they're making here

That's not actually my point. Twists are fine - pre-planned, unbiased twists which we know about before they take place. However, rules are rules. When they do do nominations, they can't just change that rule to suit themselves.

[Jason.]

anyway, this is just turning into a debate on the current state of the show (which isn't really all that worth debating about).

So yeah, I have a feeling they'll probably have another Tuesday launch again cause C5 aren't really consistent with their launch days like how C4 were with Thursday-Friday launches.

[Cal.]

Ugh I hate when they randomly just post a video on the website about a nominations twist instead of explaining.

Ew that night when they posted that clip 'Helen has been evicted..or has she?' randomly at like 10 PM.

[MB.]

That's not actually my point. Twists are fine - pre-planned, unbiased twists which we know about before they take place. However, rules are rules. When they do do nominations, they can't just change that rule to suit themselves.

...the first rule of Big Brother is that Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time

[MB.]

(actually it's the twelfth but that's besides the point)

[TomC]

Ugh I hate when they randomly just post a video on the website about a nominations twist instead of explaining.

Ew that night when they posted that clip 'Helen has been evicted..or has she?' randomly at like 10 PM.

:omgno::omgno:

...the first rule of Big Brother is that Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time

That doesn't mean it ain't annoying and ****ty when they do with regards to noms

[MB.]

That doesn't mean it ain't annoying and ****ty when they do with regards to noms

I didn't say it wasn't, but it's a part of the show now and there's no reason why they can't do it - it'd just be preferable for us hardcore fans if they didn't

[TomC]

I didn't say it wasn't, but it's a part of the show now and there's no reason why they can't do it - it'd just be preferable for us hardcore fans if they didn't

And that's my point :)

[Josiah.]

Can the BB manipulation/nominations debate be over? We've been talking about it since the BB15 final and it's getting a bit old. So may you all please talk about BB17's possible launch date?

[MB.]

So that worked out well

[TomC]

So that worked out well

What?