Why do women so rarely?

[the truth]

why do we so rarely see women ; tile floors, slate roofs, plumb pipes, drain sewers, tarmac roads, fix the electrics, fix the electric machines, build fieplaces, build walls, build garages, fix leaking roofs, fix boilers install radiators, change my road side punctures, etc etc I own a few houses and I endlessly employ people to do all these jobs and more (mow lawns, lay patio, decking, plant trees etc etc) but everytime ive EVER looked up the adverts and rung these businesses, EVERY time its been a man who has done these dirty jobs?

I know as always I will be shouted down as sexist by the disingenuous? but why?

why aren't the women digging up our roads, cleaning our sewers, fixing our electrics, our roofs our plumbing etc etc where are they?

the masses of womens organizations are always complaining enmasse about every sleight, often seeing out trivial nonsense to take offence over, demanding equal pay. but why don't they get onto other women to get them doing these jobs? when they calculate the average male v female wage, is it any wonder if there is an overall disparity if the entire female population (barring a tiny minority) who turn their noses up at these jobs

WOMEN GET YOUR GLOVES ON, GET AWAY FROM FACEBOOK AND FEMINSIT LOBBY GROUPS AND DO THESE JOBS YOURSELF:dance:

[Marsh.]

Because blokes like you won't employ them.

[the truth]

Because blokes like you won't employ them.

LIE 1

[Marsh.]

WOMEN GET YOUR GLOVES ON, GET AWAY FROM FACEBOOK AND FEMINSIT LOBBY GROUPS AND DO THESE JOBS YOURSELF:dance:

GET YOUR OVEN GLOVES ON, GET AWAY FROM TIBB AND YOUR STRAIGHT WHITE MALE SUPPORT GROUPS AND GET THE DINNER ON :dance:

[Denver]

Because they don't wanna break a nail

[Mokka]

GET YOUR OVEN GLOVES ON, GET AWAY FROM TIBB AND YOUR STRAIGHT WHITE MALE SUPPORT GROUPS AND GET THE DINNER ON :dance:

:joker::joker::joker:

[Tom4784]

Because blokes like you won't employ them.

Pretty much, the construction industry is very male dominated. It's a bit of a boys club.

[Marsh.]

Also, judging by the fact you say you employ people to do these jobs, why don't you yourself do them?

[Drew.]

Could say the same about the lack of men working in pedicure salons, hairdressers & dental assistants etc

[MB.]

:facepalm:

[Kizzy]

Why do men so rarely give birth? Lazy twunts!

[AnnieK]

I know a couple of female painter and decorators plus one girl whose going back to college to do plumbing. The problem with many typically male or female professions is that most people who are booking a builder, say, want and expect a man as they are in the most part physically stronger. Most women going to a beautician want a woman etc etc etc. Also, in professions mainly undertaken by either sex, I can imagine training could be pretty challenging if you're the opposite sex to the majority.

[kirklancaster]

Because they don't wanna break a nail

:laugh::laugh::laugh: Funny AND very courageous of you Adam. I suggest that you :dog:

[kirklancaster]

GET YOUR OVEN GLOVES ON, GET AWAY FROM TIBB AND YOUR STRAIGHT WHITE MALE SUPPORT GROUPS AND GET THE DINNER ON :dance:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[the truth]

GET YOUR OVEN GLOVES ON, GET AWAY FROM TIBB AND YOUR STRAIGHT WHITE MALE SUPPORT GROUPS AND GET THE DINNER ON :dance:

lie 2. I do all the cooking :dance:

[Ross.]

GET YOUR OVEN GLOVES ON, GET AWAY FROM TIBB AND YOUR STRAIGHT WHITE MALE SUPPORT GROUPS AND GET THE DINNER ON :dance:

:joker::joker::joker:

[the truth]

I know a couple of female painter and decorators plus one girl whose going back to college to do plumbing. The problem with many typically male or female professions is that most people who are booking a builder, say, want and expect a man as they are in the most part physically stronger. Most women going to a beautician want a woman etc etc etc. Also, in professions mainly undertaken by either sex, I can imagine training could be pretty challenging if you're the opposite sex to the majority.

I disagree. no one demands a man. they just want their stuff fixed. Its not the old boys network, its high time women simply got on with it.

[Ashley.]

Because we've adapted to the idea that there are certain roles for men, and certain roles for women. We pass these beliefs down to our children, and thus it continues through generations.

It's always going to be this way.

[Ashley.]

I'm just answering your first question, by the way, the rest of what you said in your OP is pure rubbish that I do not wish to give attention to.

[Beso]

lesbians do.:evilgrin:

[Marsh.]

lie 2. I do all the cooking :dance:

Everybody does when they live alone :dance:

Oh, and microwave isn't cooking :dance2:

[Cherie]

Why don't we see more single fathers :think:

[Mokka]

because of men is the answer to the OP...

When my step dad goes out the his shop to weld, or woodwork, or if he is programming machinery on his computer, he invites my son to come over and work with him... never my daughter... and my daughter when she was younger would sheepishly ask if she could go too, but now she has just given up because she got the message... men don't want to train girls in these tasks...

[the truth]

because of men is the answer to the OP...

When my step dad goes out the his shop to weld, or woodwork, or if he is programming machinery on his computer, he invites my son to come over and work with him... never my daughter... and my daughter when she was younger would sheepishly ask if she could go too, but now she has just given up because she got the message... men don't want to train girls in these tasks...

Oh so blame men for female laziness....we have also taken fathers away from children in nearly50% of families, so what do the liberals expect? women should stop talking themselves up, take off their fake nails and fake eyelashes and get practical and learn these skills. stop over relying on hard working men they say they don't need and certainly don't like or respect

[Northern Monkey]

I always wonder why women are no good at painting.I mean why do they always have to get the decorators in once a month?

As for equal pay.There is no gender pay gap now up to the age of 29.Infact women are getting paid slightly more in their early 20's.It's only really noticable after the age of 40 when a lot of women have made the lifestlyle choice to have kids in their 30's and leave the work place.Then they have to start climbing the ladder again.

[Mokka]

Oh so blame men for female laziness....we have also taken fathers away from children in nearly50% of families, so what do the liberals expect? women should stop talking themselves up, take off their fake nails and fake eyelashes and get practical and learn these skills. stop over relying on hard working men they say they don't need and certainly don't like or respect

I am sorry for whatever happened to make you this way... I feel nothing but pity for you

[Smithy]

Oh so blame men for female laziness....we have also taken fathers away from children in nearly50% of families, so what do the liberals expect? women should stop talking themselves up, take off their fake nails and fake eyelashes and get practical and learn these skills. stop over relying on hard working men they say they don't need and certainly don't like or respect

What a load of ****

[Marsh.]

Oh so blame men for female laziness...

Where is your evidence that there are less women in these professions because of laziness? :conf:

[smudgie]

I am far too busy keeping my husband happy to bother with such things.

[Northern Monkey]

I am far too busy keeping my husband happy to bother with such things.

You're a good woman.We need more like you:laugh:

[Cherie]

Why aren't there more female football managers :think:

[Cherie]

I am far too busy keeping my husband happy to bother with such things.

:creep:

[Marsh.]

Why aren't there more male nurses?

****ing laziness.

[Cherie]

Where is your evidence that there are less women in these professions because of laziness? :conf:

In fairness I would be far too lazy to learn a trade :laugh:

[Marsh.]

In fairness I would be far too lazy to learn a trade :laugh:

Omg, Cherie single handedly setting women back 50 years. :nono:

[Cherie]

Omg, Cherie single handedly setting women back 50 years. :nono:

:hehe: I don't care I'm not cut out for manual labour

[Marsh.]

:hehe: I don't care I'm not cut out for manual labour

Don't worry. For every Cherie giving women a bad name, us males have a "truth" :hehe:

[Northern Monkey]

I don't mind women not doing these jobs.I mean yes it's cute when they try to get involved but there are loads of female oriented jobs aswell.Whether people choose to accept it or not.Men and women are different which is a good thing.We each have our different skill sets and i appreciate the hard work that women do.It's unrealistic to expect women to be carrying hods of bricks up and down ladders or around a building site.You just carry on as you are women.We(most of us) appreciate you for who you are.:love:

[Cherie]

Don't worry. For every Cherie giving women a bad name, us males have a "truth" :hehe:

Just because I value my skin and don't want a ruddy complexion :nono:

[AnnieK]

=the truth;8522106]I disagree. no one demands a man. they just want their stuff fixed. Its not the old boys network, its high time women simply got on with it.

I didn't say anyone demands a man, I said want and expect. Yeah they want their stuff fixed but they will have expectations of what that entails. A lot of women do "get on with it". In my home, I do all the decorating, I can change a tyre, I can assemble furniture and do basic DIY.....why, because my parents (plural), taught me as I will teach my son with his dad. It's not just down to women to get off their arses and take off their false nails and eyelashes as you so succinctly put it but it's down to men and women to teach the next generation.

[Crimson Dynamo]

:clap1:

here for the Truth exposing lazy women who want their cake and eat it (and probably eat another cake)


they want equality when it suits but dont want to get their hands dirty


:nono:

[DemolitionRed]

Three years ago we bought an ancient derelict building in Briancon and turned it into 6 modern apartments. I got really involved in the building work which included helping to lay a new roof which was 100ft up (but I'm a climber so enjoyed that). I learnt to use a circular brick saw, nail guns, angle grinder and circular table saw and although I loved it' the things I couldn't do was carry heavy loads or lift and move weighty things and I didn't have the strength to knock down walls with a sledge hammer.

I always believed that I could do any job a man could do but six months of that sort of manual work really did me in; I just didn't have the same physical strength that a man does. I respect any woman who gives this sort of job a go but I think some jobs are definitely mans work.

[the truth]

Three years ago we bought an ancient derelict building in Briancon and turned it into 6 modern apartments. I got really involved in the building work which included helping to lay a new roof which was 100ft up (but I'm a climber so enjoyed that). I learnt to use a circular brick saw, nail guns, angle grinder and circular table saw and although I loved it' the things I couldn't do was carry heavy loads or lift and move weighty things and I didn't have the strength to knock down walls with a sledge hammer.

I always believed that I could do any job a man could do but six months of that sort of manual work really did me in; I just didn't have the same physical strength that a man does. I respect any woman who gives this sort of job a go but I think some jobs are definitely mans work.

say hat at the womens institute or labour party conference

[Redway]

What are you basing all this information on?

[Northern Monkey]

Three years ago we bought an ancient derelict building in Briancon and turned it into 6 modern apartments. I got really involved in the building work which included helping to lay a new roof which was 100ft up (but I'm a climber so enjoyed that). I learnt to use a circular brick saw, nail guns, angle grinder and circular table saw and although I loved it' the things I couldn't do was carry heavy loads or lift and move weighty things and I didn't have the strength to knock down walls with a sledge hammer.

I always believed that I could do any job a man could do but six months of that sort of manual work really did me in; I just didn't have the same physical strength that a man does. I respect any woman who gives this sort of job a go but I think some jobs are definitely mans work.A very good and realistic answer.I've done loads of manual work and it's tough going for a man too(even though we don't usually admit it:laugh:).It's unfair to expect women to do things that they are not physically capable of.Women give birth.I've witnessed that twice and god knows i would'nt wanna do it.I think we should all accept the differences and let women be women and men be men.

[Crimson Dynamo]

A very good and realistic answer.I've done loads of manual work and it's tough going for a man too(even though we don't usually admit it:laugh:).It's unfair to expect women to do things that they are not physically capable of.Women give birth.I've witnessed that twice and god knows i would'nt wanna do it.I think we should all accept the differences and let women be women and men be men.

Indeed. Also men get less distracted as they are less inclined to gossip and want to talk endlessly about feelings and clothes.

[Ninastar]

Different interests, innit

[the truth]

A very good and realistic answer.I've done loads of manual work and it's tough going for a man too(even though we don't usually admit it:laugh:).It's unfair to expect women to do things that they are not physically capable of.Women give birth.I've witnessed that twice and god knows i would'nt wanna do it.I think we should all accept the differences and let women be women and men be men.

tell that to new labour. according to them, every person is equal. they sadly got confused, equal opportunities yes, equal no, everyone is different.

[Northern Monkey]

Indeed. Also men get less distracted as they are less inclined to gossip and want to talk endlessly about feelings and clothes.

Ha.Yes true.I always feel slightly uneasy when i see a woman driving a bus.
I once saw a woman breast feeding a baby whilst driving!
Constantly see them applying lippy in the mirror whilst driving too.So many distractions for females.

[the truth]

Indeed. Also men get less distracted as they are less inclined to gossip and want to talk endlessly about feelings and clothes.

tut tut such generalizatons....that's what happens when you avoid being sincere

[Mokka]

Indeed. Also men get less distracted as they are less inclined to gossip and want to talk endlessly about feelings and clothes.

ewww... feelings :yuk:

[Crimson Dynamo]

ewww... feelings :yuk:

:nono:

now now mokka you know you go on and on to your pals bout things like this when you should be reading scientific journals

[Jamie89]

Indeed. Also men get less distracted as they are less inclined to gossip and want to talk endlessly about feelings and clothes.

90% of tibb threads suggest otherwise :fan:

[Amy Jade]

Topics like this make me so angry

[Northern Monkey]

tell that to new labour. according to them, every person is equal. they sadly got confused, equal opportunities yes, equal no, everyone is different.

I agree.We are not equal.We should let each gender fulfill the roles we are good at and not disturb the balance of the force.

[Mokka]

:nono:

now now mokka you know you go on and on to your pals bout things like this when you should be reading scientific journals

You really know nothing about me... (goes back to reading about the new gene therapy being used on mushrooms in Scientific America)

[DemolitionRed]

A very good and realistic answer.I've done loads of manual work and it's tough going for a man too(even though we don't usually admit it:laugh:).It's unfair to expect women to do things that they are not physically capable of.Women give birth.I've witnessed that twice and god knows i would'nt wanna do it.I think we should all accept the differences and let women be women and men be men.

I'm showing that bolded bit to my husband :joker:

Yep, giving births tough, but its the final stages of labour pain I'd love a man to experience.

[Beso]

It is women who keep the building trade running smoothly, simply by adding some chocolate biscuits to the bait box in the morning.

[Mokka]

I'm showing that bolded bit to my husband :joker:

Yep, giving births tough, but its the final stages of labour pain I'd love a man to experience.

Omg....they have no idea :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

not the women pulling out

the birth card :facepalm:

If men could get pregnant the whole shabang would be over in 3 months and all we would need is a ibuprofen and 2 minutes in the toilet

:nono:

[Rob!]

I would like to state here and now that you are far more likely to find a woman doing any of those jobs than me. :idc:

[Marsh.]

not the women pulling out

the birth card :facepalm:

If men could get pregnant the whole shabang would be over in 3 months and all we would need is a ibuprofen and 2 minutes in the toilet

:nono:

Excuse me, but if a human head is going to explode through my penis I want special treatment. :nono:

[Cal.]

Because women are better than that.

[Rob!]

Excuse me, but if a human head is going to explode through my penis I want special treatment. :nono:

The kid deserves more special treatment for fighting it's way through the crust :idc:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Excuse me, but if a human head is going to explode through my penis I want special treatment. :nono:

makes a change from your penis exploding inside a human head

:idc:

[Marsh.]

The kid deserves more special treatment for fighting it's way through the crust :idc:

makes a change from your penis exploding inside a human head

:idc:

Rob, meet LT. LT, this is Rob.

:hmph:

[Mokka]

Rob, meet LT. LT, this is Rob.

:hmph:

:laugh3:

[Jamie89]

Excuse me, but if a human head is going to explode through my penis I want special treatment. :nono:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/glee/images/a/ad/Popcorn_gif_darren_cross_legs.gif/revision/latest?cb=20131222011621

[Jords]

I think its largely "physical cabability" and also predominantly its accepted as a social norm that men take care of the 'heavy duty' whilst women use their social skills to provide 'people services'. It should no longer be unusual to fall in the other camp though e.g. male nurses, house-husbands, male beauticians

[user104658]

Neh. Because "equality" doesn't mean, or have to mean, "exactly the same". Males are in general physically larger and stronger, have better spatial awareness, and are better wired for logical / technical thinking which makes males (in general) better suited to manual labour than females. :shrug:

[Rob!]

Rob, meet LT. LT, this is Rob.

:hmph:

Bye at you introducing me to straights :hmph:

[Vicky.]

Because generally, rightly or wrongly, men have more interest in...and are better at...manual labour jobs.

I don't think it helps when women have the piss took out of them either tbh. A friend of mine did mechanics when she left school. Has been fully qualified for like 10 years now and STILL gets people 'waiting for the boss' when they take a car in as they don't want a woman fixing their car?! :joker:

[user104658]

I think its largely "physical cabability" and also predominantly its accepted as a social norm that men take care of the 'heavy duty' whilst women use their social skills to provide 'people services'. It should no longer be unusual to fall in the other camp though e.g. male nurses, house-husbands, male beauticians

Yep, as females are genuinely (again, in general) better at multitasking, communication and social interaction than males. These aren't social constructs / anything to do with feminism or "patriarchy"... they are simple biological and neurological facts.

[Kizzy]

Neh. Because "equality" doesn't mean, or have to mean, "exactly the same". Males are in general physically larger and stronger, have better spatial awareness, and are better wired for logical / technical thinking which makes males (in general) better suited to manual labour than females. :shrug:

I thought that left brained/right brained men are from mars women from venus stuff had been debunked?
What job would women in all seriousness be excluded from due to all the physical and mental restrictions they have?...

[Vicky.]

not the women pulling out

the birth card :facepalm:

If men could get pregnant the whole shabang would be over in 3 months and all we would need is a ibuprofen and 2 minutes in the toilet

:nono:

Given most of you are dying when you develop a cold and take to the sofa/bed for 3 days...I somehow doubt this :tongue:

[user104658]

I thought that left brained/right brained men are from mars women from venus stuff had been debunked?
What job would women in all seriousness be excluded from due to all the physical and mental restrictions they have?...

It's not about being excluded and it's not about absolutes, you're finding offense where there's none implied.

[Jords]

Yep, as females are genuinely (again, in general) better at multitasking, communication and social interaction than males. These aren't social constructs / anything to do with feminism or "patriarchy"... they are simple biological and neurological facts.

I wouldnt say they were just 'simple biological/neurological facts', sure how were wired up plays its part, but I think upbringing plays a definite role due to the social norms in place. It follows closely to girls being put in dresses and boys being made to play with action men and toy guns.

[Vicky.]

I thought that left brained/right brained men are from mars women from venus stuff had been debunked?
What job would women in all seriousness be excluded from due to all the physical and mental restrictions they have?...

Its not about exclusion or anything. Just generally, men have more strength than women. obviously there are exceptions to the rule though.

I kinda dislike these kind of topics as I don't taker the 'typical' view that men and women are actually exactly the same and completely equal. I disagree. manual labour is better for men as (again typically) they have more strength than women. And personally I think women are better at jobs such as nursing as they tend to be more...empathetic and caring.

I would probably rather have a male firefighter come to my house to carry me down the stairs and save me from a fire, then have a nice friendly female nurse to get me back to health, than the other way around..

Maybe I am sexist deep down. Maybe I was just brought up with old fashioned views...I don't know. But I have always thought some jobs are simply better for one gender or the other :S

[Dollface]

here for the Truth exposing lazy women who want their cake and eat it (and probably eat another cake)


me

[Ninastar]

Its not about exclusion or anything. Just generally, men have more strength than women. obviously there are exceptions to the rule though.

I kinda dislike these kind of topics as I don't taker the 'typical' view that men and women are actually exactly the same and completely equal. I disagree. manual labour is better for men as (again typically) they have more strength than women. And personally I think women are better at jobs such as nursing as they tend to be more...empathetic and caring.

I would probably rather have a male firefighter come to my house to carry me down the stairs and save me from a fire, then have a nice friendly female nurse to get me back to health, than the other way around..

Maybe I am sexist deep down. Maybe I was just brought up with old fashioned views...I don't know. But I have always thought some jobs are simply better for one gender or the other :S

I totally agree. Men and women are totally different and always will be. I understand arguments about equal pay and everything, but otherwise i don't think men and women will ever be equal. It's not realistic and we shouldnt try to make it realistic :shrug:

[Vicky.]

I totally agree. Men and women are totally different and always will be. I understand arguments about equal pay and everything, but otherwise i don't think men and women will ever be equal. It's not realistic and we shouldnt try to make it realistic :shrug:

Of course both should be paid equally for the same job. Some seem to have taken it too far though and seem tow ant equal pay regardless of what job is done :laugh:

Mind, this equal pay stuff was great for my dad. He worked in the prisons on the computers and was earning less than the people who actually worked with the prisoners. This whole equal pay malarky started and as my dad was the same 'grade' or something in his equivalent post,. he got his pay backdated for years to that of the people who work with the actual prisoners, came away with about 20k. Hope I explained that right :laugh:

[Ninastar]

Of course both should be paid equally for the same job. Some seem to have taken it too far though and seem tow ant equal pay regardless of what job is done :laugh:

Mind, this equal pay stuff was great for my dad. He worked in the prisons on the computers and was earning less than the people who actually worked with the prisoners. This whole equal pay malarky started and as my dad was the same 'grade' or something in his equivalent post,. he got his pay backdated for years to that of the people who work with the actual prisoners, came away with about 20k. Hope I explained that right :laugh:

In general, I think you should get paid for what you do and it doesn't really matter what anyone else gets paid, but if someone does the exact same job, with the exact same skills and they exact same amount of effort then yeah sure, why not have the same pay? :shrug:

and LOL that's pretty amazing. Wish that would happen to me!!!

[MTVN]

Neh. Because "equality" doesn't mean, or have to mean, "exactly the same". Males are in general physically larger and stronger, have better spatial awareness, and are better wired for logical / technical thinking which makes males (in general) better suited to manual labour than females. :shrug:

Agree. People will talk about 'social constructs' and all that but its largely been the same throughout history and across vastly different societies. Sometimes we should just accept that there are genuine biological differences between men and women.

[Vicky.]

In general, I think you should get paid for what you do and it doesn't really matter what anyone else gets paid, but if someone does the exact same job, with the exact same skills and they exact same amount of effort then yeah sure, why not have the same pay? :shrug:

and LOL that's pretty amazing. Wish that would happen to me!!!

I know...he had worked at the same place for like 20 years..So it would have only been like 1k a year difference which you wouldn't really tell. Great when it comes in a massive lump sum though.

He spent it on a trip to florida for all of us and his mam :D Hopefully he gets another backdated payrise soon as I really want to go back but I'm too broke :joker:

[Vicky.]

Agree. People will talk about 'social constructs' and all that but its largely been the same throughout history and across vastly different societies. Sometimes we should just accept that there are genuine biological differences between men and women.

Its engraved in us, I reckon. Evolution...men were the hunter gatherer/physical types. Where women (when not being clubbed over the head and dragged into a bush to make more babies) looked after the babies.

[Kizzy]

It's not about being excluded and it's not about absolutes, you're finding offense where there's none implied.

I'm not offended, I was just wondering.

[Kizzy]

Agree. People will talk about 'social constructs' and all that but its largely been the same throughout history and across vastly different societies. Sometimes we should just accept that there are genuine biological differences between men and women.

What are they?l

[the truth]

but women don't even fix tv sets or washing machines...even the computers, no woman has ever fixed any of our computers? why? theyre ahead in all schools and across higher education? so what the heck is going on seriously? ask yourself individually, in your home how many things were ever fixed by female workers compared to men?

[Vicky.]

but women don't even fix tv sets or washing machines...even the computers, no woman has ever fixed any of our computers? why? theyre ahead in all schools and across higher education? so what the heck is going on seriously? ask yourself individually, in your home how many things were ever fixed by female workers compared to men?

I always fix the computers in this house I will have you know :hmph:

[the truth]

I always fix the computers in this house I will have you know :hmph:

that's great , I just cant understand why there aren't more money doing these things? ps can you fix mine pls , its a mess

[Vicky.]

that's great , I just cant understand why there aren't more money doing these things? ps can you fix mine pls , its a mess

Depends whats wrong with it :p

There is plenty of money in programming and stuff. 2 of the people in my dads office at the prison were women. Women also tend to do office clerk-y jobs more often than men, which require computer skills.

[Vicky.]

I will admit that I have no ****ing idea how to fix a washing machine. My solution is..buy a new one and give the crap men something to do :laugh:

[Cherie]

but women don't even fix tv sets or washing machines...even the computers, no woman has ever fixed any of our computers? why? theyre ahead in all schools and across higher education? so what the heck is going on seriously? ask yourself individually, in your home how many things were ever fixed by female workers compared to men?

Woman use their brains rather than their hands ...simples :hee:

[the truth]

Woman use their brains rather than their hands ...simples :hee:

good one, though
it takes brains to fix machines and TV's too

[Cherie]

good one, though
it takes brains to fix machines and TV's too

I think you can be trained for repair jobs !

[Lee.]

Its not about exclusion or anything. Just generally, men have more strength than women. obviously there are exceptions to the rule though.

I kinda dislike these kind of topics as I don't taker the 'typical' view that men and women are actually exactly the same and completely equal. I disagree. manual labour is better for men as (again typically) they have more strength than women. And personally I think women are better at jobs such as nursing as they tend to be more...empathetic and caring.

I would probably rather have a male firefighter come to my house to carry me down the stairs and save me from a fire, then have a nice friendly female nurse to get me back to health, than the other way around..

Maybe I am sexist deep down. Maybe I was just brought up with old fashioned views...I don't know. But I have always thought some jobs are simply better for one gender or the other :S
I know this isn't a very popular opinion, but I agree Vicky.

[Kizzy]

The OP referred to tiling, plumbing and drainage engineers, why must you have guns like popeye to do those jobs?

[Tom4784]

Oh so blame men for female laziness....we have also taken fathers away from children in nearly50% of families, so what do the liberals expect? women should stop talking themselves up, take off their fake nails and fake eyelashes and get practical and learn these skills. stop over relying on hard working men they say they don't need and certainly don't like or respect

Who hurt you?

[T*]

Why are attitudes like this allowed on the forum?

[smudgie]

Hubby can turn his hand to fixing the washing machine at a push..maybe about 6/7 times in 38 years...but it took him the full 38 years to learn how to actually use the chuffing thing,.
Son is an electrical engineer, designs industrial washers amongst other things, I kid you not, it has taken him years to learn the difference between the washer and the tumbler..go figure:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

What a load of ****

Well it is true tbf that Mothers will be more likely to win the custody of the kids than the Father.

Of course the rest of The Truth's post is a load of bull**** and I suspect that he knows it too and is winding everybody up.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

I agree.We are not equal.We should let each gender fulfill the roles we are good at and not disturb the balance of the force.

Or how about just let the individual person (no matter what gender they are) do the jobs that they're good at?

[the truth]

I think you can be trained for repair jobs !

but women cant be?

[the truth]

The OP referred to tiling, plumbing and drainage engineers, why must you have guns like popeye to do those jobs?

exactly.....its nothing to do with immense strength....women can fight on the front line, female sportswomen are immensely fit and strong ....so why cant they do drainage , plumbing, road works, tiling, roofing, electricians, etc why are there so few?

[the truth]

Why are attitudes like this allowed on the forum?

like what ? free speech asking honest questions that make you uncomfortable?

[the truth]

Well it is true tbf that Mothers will be more likely to win the custody of the kids than the Father.

Of course the rest of The Truth's post is a load of bull**** and I suspect that he knows it too and is winding everybody up.:joker:

Nope the post was spot on and total truth. You cant argue against any of it so you resort to swearing. 1-0 back of the net:dance:

[Mystic Mock]

Nope the post was spot on and total truth. You cant argue against any of it so you resort to swearing. 1-0 back of the net:dance:

You honestly feel that women don't do any of the manual labour?

[the truth]

You honestly feel that women don't do any of the manual labour?

I didn't say that. But the percentage of these jobs taken by women is pathetically miniscule. in real world politics, what percentage of the jobs you've had done fixing your house and all the equipment inside it were carried out by men compared to women. I would really appreciate a factual honest answer that doesn't play to the TIBB audience.

cheers:blush:

[Northern Monkey]

A woman once came and fixed my cable box.Once.I nearly accidently directed her to the kitchen instead of the living room.We had a few dishes piled up.

[Jack_]

I didn't say that. But the percentage of these jobs taken by women is pathetically miniscule. in real world politics, what percentage of the jobs you've had done fixing your house and all the equipment inside it were carried out by men compared to women. I would really appreciate a factual honest answer that doesn't play to the TIBB audience.

cheers:blush:

Why does this post not look like yours? :suspect:

[the truth]

Why does this post not look like yours? :suspect:

what?

[T*]

like what ? free speech asking honest questions that make you uncomfortable?


It's not the free speech that's making me uncomfortable, it's the blatant misogyny and sexism.

[the truth]

It's not the free speech that's making me uncomfortable, it's the blatant misogyny and sexism.

You don't even know the meaning of any of those words. I speak the truth, you're too brainwashed to even see it. How many female workers have ever come to work in your house and fix any of the things I've mentioned? how many have you seen fix the roads? or go down the sewers or change your tyres? lets see if youre even capable of giving an honest answer? or will you continue to play to the feminist gallery? my friend you've been brainwashed , the sooner you realise that the more honest your life will become.

[kirklancaster]

I am far too busy keeping my husband happy to bother with such things.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[kirklancaster]

I know several women who fit laminate flooring, tile, plaster, do joinery, even bricklay and one who is a plumber. More and more young women are training in traditional 'Male' trades such as Construction and Mechanical Engineering. The Times They Are A Changing.

[Ammi]

..I think it's a mixture of many things people have mentioned, a social conditioning/individual family conditioning/physical differences between male and females etc...interesting as well that I've just read that apart from a standard for all health and safety, females need specific risk assessments/health and safety to their sex..so could be insurance being very high as well..?...either for an employer or for themselves in their own business for certain jobs/that could be a factor..?..male primary school teachers as well, I think you've mentioned that before, truth.../why aren't there more...imho of the experiences I've had...(and there are some, we have 3 at the moment in a relatively small school compared to town/city schools/and they're amazing...but obviously as you say, still not of equal proportion..)...males tend to prefer to teach older children but also to teach specific subjects, whereas in primary schools, all subjects are often taught by one class teacher, as it's more of a 'bitesize' of each subject...there is much more scope for teachers to progress in their careers, if they specialise in an individual subject...and again, a gender thing in many males still being the higher earner in families...obviously not in all cases but still in many...

[Mokka]

Survivor US has a female Contractor/ Construction worker on this season.... So Whatisthetruth.gif... the truth :smug:

[Ammi]

..actually I will add as well..with insurance..?...a few years ago, we had a plumber...(yes he was male/sorry truth..)...he has his own business and has a son..(around 19-ish at the time if I recall correctly..)...and his son came to help out with him a few days because he wasn't in education or employed...anyway, we were talking and he said that he would like his son to be a part of his business and his son would be all for that as well..but that as he was such a small business, he couldn't afford the insurance because it would be too high...really quite sad and something that should be looked into for very small businesses who would like to take on apprentices and teach them a trade...

[user104658]

I fink it's cos bewbs get in da way.

[Ammi]

I fink it's cos bewbs get in da way.

..what about your mewbs...

[Crimson Dynamo]

I remeber when i was wee there was a conundrum thing and the answer was something like

"the doctor was a woman"

and obvs no one got it as 99.9% of doctors were male at that time

:omgno:

[user104658]

..what about your mewbs...

Not da same cos bewbs cud burst and milk cud come out.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Doz5w2W-jAY

:clap1:

you tell it Rex

[user104658]

you tell it Rex

g_-K66UAjbE

I reckon this is actually a documentary about you, LT. You'll never let a woman in your life because you've been so wounded :(.

And because you absolutely love gobbling the D but that's tertiary.

[Niamh.]

I remeber when i was wee there was a conundrum thing and the answer was something like

"the doctor was a woman"

and obvs no one got it as 99.9% of doctors were male at that time

:omgno:

hahaha I remember that :laugh:

But in answer to the OP, I would imagine it's because biologically speaking men are (generally) stronger than women and so are more inclined to go for those types of jobs?.....that's pretty obvious though

[lostalex]

I;ve never seen men do any of those things either. so what?

[DemolitionRed]

Its not about exclusion or anything. Just generally, men have more strength than women. obviously there are exceptions to the rule though.

I kinda dislike these kind of topics as I don't taker the 'typical' view that men and women are actually exactly the same and completely equal. I disagree. manual labour is better for men as (again typically) they have more strength than women. And personally I think women are better at jobs such as nursing as they tend to be more...empathetic and caring.

I would probably rather have a male firefighter come to my house to carry me down the stairs and save me from a fire, then have a nice friendly female nurse to get me back to health, than the other way around..

Maybe I am sexist deep down. Maybe I was just brought up with old fashioned views...I don't know. But I have always thought some jobs are simply better for one gender or the other :S

I agree with this and I don't think its being at all sexist. There will always be exceptions but they are exceptions.

When I did that six months of hard labour I was already fit, healthy and strong but doing that sort of work day in, day out nearly broke me. I'm happy to accept that I can occasionally put my hand to that kind of thing but if I did it for a living, I'd not only suffer but I'd be holding the team back.

Men genuinely worry about women as well. We had a team of men working on our project and they did worry about me doing certain things (especially with a nail gun!) even though I was capable. When it came to carrying anything heavy they'd down their tools and come and help me. They wouldn't of had to do that if I'd been a man.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Men are governed by lines of intellect - women: by curves of emotion.


James Joyce

[Niamh.]

Men are governed by lines of intellect - women: by curves of emotion.


James Joyce

I tend to disagree with Mr. Joyce I'm afraid

[Crimson Dynamo]

I tend to disagree with Mr. Joyce I'm afraid

:nono: no need to get all emotional

[Niamh.]

:nono: no need to get all emotional

:laugh:

[Kizzy]

Men are governed by lines of intellect - women: by curves of emotion.


James Joyce

1882-1941... Ah the 'hysterical female' theory, now debunked.

[Niamh.]

1882-1941... Ah the 'hysterical female' theory, now debunked.

I recently read Oscar Wildes The Picture of Dorian Grey, good story but my God the opinions on women in it :facepalm:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I recently read Oscar Wildes The Picture of Dorian Grey, good story but my God the opinions on women in it :facepalm:

the bygone days

:flutter:

[Livia]

The world has changed for women... but only in the last fifty years or so. I think if you look back to how women kept the country running during the world wars while the men were away fighting, it'll show you that women are more than capable of doing anything they turn their hand to. Sadly women had to give up those jobs after the wars because men returning wanted the jobs and the women's movement was put back decades.

Why do so few men go into the caring professions, nursing and school teaching? Schools could benefit a lot from strong male influences in school. And yet they don't...

[lostalex]

The world has changed for women... but only in the last fifty years or so. I think if you look back to how women kept the country running during the world wars while the men were away fighting, it'll show you that women are more than capable of doing anything they turn their hand to. Sadly women had to give up those jobs after the wars because men returning wanted the jobs and the women's movement was put back decades.

Why do so few men go into the caring professions, nursing and school teaching? Schools could benefit a lot from strong male influences in school. And yet they don't...

let's not pretend that nurses and teachers are so caring... infact most female teachers and nurses i've met have balls of steel and aren't very nurturing at all. they are very strict and are more masculine than most straight men that i've ever met. most construction workers (grafters) are beta males that just do as they are told and never have a bit of authority over anyone.

[Livia]

let's not pretend that nurses and teachers are so caring... infact most female teachers and nurses i've met have balls of steel and aren't very nurturing at all. they are very strict and are more masculine than most straight men that i've ever met. most construction workers (grafters) are beta males that just do as they are told and never have a bit of authority over anyone.

I was doing like thetruth and using wild generalisations.

[Niamh.]

The world has changed for women... but only in the last fifty years or so. I think if you look back to how women kept the country running during the world wars while the men were away fighting, it'll show you that women are more than capable of doing anything they turn their hand to. Sadly women had to give up those jobs after the wars because men returning wanted the jobs and the women's movement was put back decades.

Why do so few men go into the caring professions, nursing and school teaching? Schools could benefit a lot from strong male influences in school. And yet they don't...

Don't open up that can of worms Livia :fan:

[Alf]

Why do so few men go into the caring professions, nursing and school teaching? Schools could benefit a lot from strong male influences in school. And yet they don't...
Men working with Children get generalised as some kind of peodo.

Even if they're not told this directly, people definitely have them assumption's

[Livia]

Men working with Children get generalised as some kind of peodo.

Even if they're not told this directly, people definitely have them assumption's

The opinions of people who would think a man working with children in automatically a paedo are not worth a wank I reckon. Some of the most inspirational teachers I remember were men. Shame, isn't it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

smallest boy LT has a new male primary teacher

[Crimson Dynamo]

and livia is right, men make the best teachers

[Niamh.]

and livia is right, men make the best teachers

I've had terrible male teachers and terrible female teachers and brilliant male teachers and brilliant female teachers, in this case it's most certainly down to the individual, not which of the 25 genders they are :laugh:

[Livia]

and livia is right, men make the best teachers

I have been misquoted...

[Crimson Dynamo]

I remember Mrs Randish the biology teacher in her tight white lab coat

:flutter:

i use to dream about rogerisation during photosynthesis

[Livia]

I remember Mr Reeve the boys' PE teacher. Sighhhh... Spend a few very happy lunchtimes watching him pole vault. And that's not a euphemism.

[Alf]

I remember when we used to do PE in vest and underpants, and getting a boost over the climbing frame from the teacher.

This was old School style Peodoing, before for it got such a bad name.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I remember when we used to do PE in vest and underpants, and getting a boost over the climbing frame from the teacher.

This was old School style Peodoing, before for it got such a bad name.

:joker:


In the old days most pe teachers were massive paedos but we just got on with it and ran fast

[Alf]

:joker:


In the old days most pe teachers were massive paedos but we just got on with it and ran fast
That's why we haven't had an Olympic sprint champion since Linford Christie in 92.

[Niamh.]

:laugh2:

[bots]

:joker:


In the old days most pe teachers were massive paedos but we just got on with it and ran fast

the interesting thing is that kids always know about the dodgy teachers, its the parents and other teachers that don't have a clue

[Northern Monkey]

I used to have a fit blonde female teacher in middle school who wore really loose woolly jumpers and just like a brah or small top under and she would bend over the boys so you could see her tits when she came to check your work.She ruined a good few socks in our house.Made mi mam alot of extra work doing the washing.

[bots]

its always good to impress the ladies with fresh socks ;)

[Livia]

That's why we haven't had an Olympic sprint champion since Linford Christie in 92.

LOL...

[the truth]

The world has changed for women... but only in the last fifty years or so. I think if you look back to how women kept the country running during the world wars while the men were away fighting, it'll show you that women are more than capable of doing anything they turn their hand to. Sadly women had to give up those jobs after the wars because men returning wanted the jobs and the women's movement was put back decades.

Why do so few men go into the caring professions, nursing and school teaching? Schools could benefit a lot from strong male influences in school. And yet they don't...

good question, mainly in case theyre accused of something...male carers aren't allowed to work with girls with learning disabilities in some areas

[Crimson Dynamo]

i would never be a teacher nowadays

one accusation and you are toast

[the truth]

i would never be a teacher nowadays

one accusation and you are toast

yep accuse , name and shame in headlights on the front page, then get cleared a year later on page 44 in small font.