Big Brother Canada 4: Episode Discussion [Season Finished]

[JerseyWins]

Nikki lmaoooooo :laugh3:

[LukeB]

Why did she reveal who it was like say his name?

[Greg!]

Hope Nikki destroys the brothers with her question

[JerseyWins]

Nick with an EXCELLENT answer to that question. :clap1:

[LukeB]

Nikki :lovedup:

[LukeB]

Slayha :lovedup:

[Calderyon]

Phil is so bad at this. He should let Nick talk, he actually could do this.

[Greg!]

What a shįt answer

[Mokka]

Urgggh...brothers suck.

Go Kelsey

[LukeB]

Nick is better at answering than Phil

[Greg!]

I think the bros will get the public vote which is vile

[Greg!]

I still can't remember whose Nick and whose Phil

[Mokka]

I think the bros will get the public vote which is vile

Ewww...don't make me hate my own country :worry:

[Calderyon]

Phil, stop talking, you´re embarrassing yourself.

Nick would have won this, if he was alone in the final 2.

[LukeB]

I think Kelsey has this in the bag, well it's better than the bros win.

[Greg!]

Ewww...don't make me hate my own country :worry:

I voted for queen Kels :angel:

[Calderyon]

Arisa is going fill the last seat and give Canada´s vote, i think.

[LukeB]

Would not surprise me if the last juror was the brothers mother because Kelsey had more votes. :idc:

[JerseyWins]

Lol wtf was Phil doing. :joker:

He's usually not a bad talker but jesus that was bad. On the other hand, Nick killed it with all his answers.

[Jack_]

Ummm why was the roundtable in the studio? :umm2: trash

loooooool Phil is so AWFUL his answers are terrible and he just needs to shut up, he's handing Kelsey the game one juror at a time. Though tbh Kelsey's ramblings aren't really coherent answers either so

Nikki's question lmao <3

[Jack_]

also Jon needs a haircut

[Calderyon]

Kelsey has 2 locked votes and a vote from Cassandra as well, i think. She only needs 2 votes.

[JerseyWins]

Nick had great answers. Phil & Kelsey were terrible. :joker:

[Calderyon]

So Ramsey is still part of the jury, technically.

[Greg!]

Cringin at this speech

[Calderyon]

This is awful from Kelsey.

[LukeB]

:worry:

[LukeB]

dumb luck.. sign of the bros vote :worry:

[Calderyon]

Nick and Phil killed that last speech, tbh.

[LukeB]

Nikki :joker:

[zakman440]

Nikki's voting omg :flutter:

[Greg!]

I think kels has done it

[Calderyon]

Maddy voted for Kelsey.

[LukeB]

Nikki speaking on behalf of the viewers.

[LukeB]

Ramsey could have won this

[Calderyon]

Missed some of the speeches because of BBviewer. :fist:

[Calderyon]

Kelsey wins 5-4 or 6-3.

[LukeB]

TAKE ME TO CANADA'S WONDERLAND

that is all

[LukeB]

I think Tim voted bros because it felt like the bros wanted it more.

[Jack_]

Tim and Mitch voted for the brothers? Think that's it

Nikki casting a jury vote :flutter: who'd have thought this would ever happen just three months ago

[LukeB]

Tim and Mitch voted for the brothers? Think that's it

Nikki casting a jury vote :flutter: who'd have thought this would ever happen just three months ago

I think Canada as well :worry:

[Jack_]

also lol I love how the jury hate this F2 too, reflecting the thoughts of the viewers <3333333

[Greg!]

a whole segment for nikki :love: (and Tim ew)

[zakman440]

Tikki highlights! :flutter: :love:

[Ross.]

this might be my fave Nikki era

[Greg!]

Nikki>Tim

[Mokka]

Nikki's highlights slayed Tim's

Canada loves you Nikki!!!!!!!!!!

[LukeB]

Not a warcraft movie

[zakman440]

Tim and Nikki are easily the stars of this season. Hopefully they'll be invited back for All-Stars!

(Would also LOVE to see some Tim BBBOTS appearances)

[LukeB]

Nikki = Success for entertainment
Tim = Success for playing an amazing game

but Nikki > Tim

[Jack_]

So much more happened this season than last and that VT proved it :clap1:

also Nikki and Tim having their own VT :love: the undisputed stars of the season <333333

[Jack_]

Oh one other thing I forgot, the intro to the finale was so damn good :love: the production quality on this show puts every other version to shame, it really does

[LukeB]

Sarah and Jillian still remain my favourite winners.

[zakman440]

Oh one other thing I forgot, the intro to the finale was so damn good :love: the production quality on this show puts every other version to shame, it really does

Hologram Arisa > the entire of Timebomb tbh.

[LukeB]

Can we not at Kelsey and Jared.. no one cares for them.

[Mokka]

Sarah and Jillian still remain my favourite winners.

Well obviously there is no way for that to change tonight...stupid final two

[Calderyon]

Kelsey winning would make it a 3rd showmance winner.

[Mokka]

Hologram Arisa > the entire of Timebomb tbh.

:clap1: :clap1:

[LukeB]

Kelsey winning would make it a 3rd showmance winner.

Well Nick had a showmance ish with Maddy.

[Mokka]

Well Nick had a showmance ish with Maddy.

Don't say that to Ramsey

[Calderyon]

Well Nick had a showmance ish with Maddy.

And Phil had something with Nikki too, kind of.

[Mokka]

Arisa calling out Maddie :omgno:

[LukeB]

And Phil had something with Nikki too, kind of.

Don't forget last year Sarah had one with Willow :fan: so does that mean 4th showmance winner:smug:

[LukeB]

STOP THE BREAKS.. I want to know

[Calderyon]

^ I was thinking that actually. And they had a passionate kiss also.

I guess that means that in BBCAN a showmancer is more likely to win than a lone wolf.

[JerseyWins]

Those pair segments. :clap1: The brothers one... :joker:

[LukeB]

Talking of showmance winners.. Jemmett are going to be on The Amazing Race CANADA :cheer2: so i'm going to watch TARCANADA 1-3 before it airs

[Jack_]

The audience cheering whenever something bad against the brothers, Jared, Kelsey and Raul happened on the clips :joker: not long until they find out how hated they are <33333

also I bet Tass do a Jon and Neda and end up dating eventually

[LukeB]

The audience cheering whenever something bad against the brothers, Jared, Kelsey and Raul happened on the clips :joker: not long until they find out how hated they are <33333

also I bet Tass do a Jon and Neda and end up dating eventually

I don't think it will work, Australia is miles away from Canada and I don't see them leaving their countries.

[Calderyon]

Finally. Fully expect Kelsey to win this.

[LukeB]

Canada :fist:

[LukeB]

****

[LukeB]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Nikki

[LukeB]

****ING BYE

[Greg!]

Goodbye

[Greg!]

Rotten dot cotton result

[Mokka]

So tired of Kelsey's resting bitch face... I need her off my TV

Blehh at this ending

[Calderyon]

Phil & Nick did it then. Good for them, i guess.

Kelsey winning wouldn´t have been much better though.

[LukeB]

Some people were so confident Kelsey would beat the bros 8-1 :fan:

tragic winners

[Macie Lightfoot]

alol you seemed pretty confident that Kelsey would win too? No need to throw shade

this feels like Trump winning.

[LukeB]

7-2 :o

[zakman440]

Meh. I was pissed off earlier but they seem really happy to have won.

[Greg!]

Oh well good for them

[Greg!]

Nikki reigns supreme by getting paid the most

[LukeB]

Meh. I was pissed off earlier but they seem really happy to have won.

I hate them but it felt like the bros wanted the win more.

[Mokka]

Nikki reigns supreme by getting paid the most
:joker::joker::joker:

[JerseyWins]

The brothers winning :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: Such a feel good moment. They've been doubted literally all season lmao. :joker:

[Ross.]

Not a great ending but overall the season has been great

[LukeB]

Nikki won 1million - 0

[Ross.]

and it provided one of my favourite ever housemates internationally, Cassandra :love:

[LukeB]

Mess I thought it would have been close....but 7-2 :o

[Jack_]

LMFAO wtf just happened, deary deary me

I hope all the Kelsey 'stans' who wished for this F2 to happen so she'd win are happy with themselves :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: now we have xenophobic winners, congrats!

[Jack_]

One of the most unexpected jury votes of all time that, just wow

An incredible season with the most dreadful of endings :( the fact I stayed up in Rome to watch this on my phone only for it to end this way...why did I bother

[zakman440]

Despite the winner, this has been an absolutely brilliant season of Big Brother. If Tim would've won it would've toppled Tim's original season as my favourite series of Big Brother ever, but I'd still rank this season highly. Big Brother Canada's originality with the International Wildcards twist, their respect towards the fans and the drive to keep production standards means that they've earnt their status as the best version of Big Brother internationally once again.

(It's also been the first season that I've followed all the way through as it happened + my first experience of watching the Live Feeds! It's been brilliant to share with you all :love:)

[Macie Lightfoot]

well I'm still happy Tim didn't win so yes I'm happy with myself thank u

[LukeB]

LMFAO wtf just happened, deary deary me

I hope all the Kelsey 'stans' who wished for this F2 to happen so she'd win are happy with themselves :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: now we have xenophobic winners, congrats!

This..

and it really wasn't going to be 8-1 in that situation because

1.Maddy would not vote Kelsey
2.Kelsey is part of the 3rd wheel and no one likes them so ofc the bros will get more votes.

I thought it would have been close but I guess Kelsey ****ed it up for herself with her answers and her rubbish speech. The bros are awful but Nick was good with the answers and they wanted this so bad and Kelsey acted like it wasn't a big deal so didn't show how much she wants to win.

[Ross.]

See y'all for BBUS in the summer

[reece(:]

well I'm still happy Tim didn't win so yes I'm happy with myself thank u

He wouldn't have won in a F2 either tho

[Jack_]

Tragic ending

I'm so glad I didn't follow the posts in this thread while I was watching because I knew inevitably someone would do something like this

Yes the result may have been **** but I wouldn't have wanted to spend three months watching a show to then have the result inadvertently given away before it ended, keep spoilers to the designated thread it's really not fair

well I'm still happy Tim didn't win so yes I'm happy with myself thank u

So you prefer the brothers winning over Tim? Xenophobia over a camera*****? That's really not a good look oop

[Jack_]

Despite the winner, this has been an absolutely brilliant season of Big Brother. If Tim would've won it would've toppled Tim's original season as my favourite series of Big Brother ever, but I'd still rank this season highly. Big Brother Canada's originality with the International Wildcards twist, their respect towards the fans and the drive to keep production standards means that they've earnt their status as the best version of Big Brother internationally once again.

(It's also been the first season that I've followed all the way through as it happened + my first experience of watching the Live Feeds! It's been brilliant to share with you all :love:)

I agree wholeheartedly :clap1:

[LukeB]

So you prefer the brothers winning over Tim? Xenophobia over a camera*****? That's really not a good look oop

Are you surprise though? you're asking someone who thinks Dan Gheesling is worst than racists/Justin/someone who threaten rape etc.

[Jack_]

also :joker: @ the fact Jase and Veronica were invited to the finale AND actually showed up?!?! Are they being paid to be here too?!

[Mokka]

also :joker: @ the fact Jase and Veronica were invited to the finale AND actually showed up?!?! Are they being paid to be here too?!

I thought this was odd...just to have them nod in the audience... Classic BBCan Production :smug:

[reece(:]

Remember when Jase was rumoured to have had a messy kick off

all the what could've beens!

[Macie Lightfoot]

So you prefer the brothers winning over Tim? Xenophobia over a camera*****? That's really not a good look oop

I'm just saying that the reactions to a Tim victory would have been unbearable.

Are you surprise though? you're asking someone who thinks Dan Gheesling is worst than racists/Justin/someone who threaten rape etc.

keep twisting words hun, you're not one to talk about what looks good.......x

[zakman440]

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Tahan :love: :flutter:

[LukeB]

730935140067606528

Tahan :love: :flutter:

Queen :lovedup:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Anyway, as awful as the finale was (not even about the winner but this **** did not need to be two hours), I realized that the end game really pushed 4 ahead of 3, it's not even close. I think BB4 actually gives BB2 a run for its money :o the only thing that 2 does better is have a more likable cast.

BB1 will never be topped though :love:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=300667

Now the season is over, getting ranking people :)

[Jay28jay2]

I need the link to the episode because all I can get is the side show

[Headie]

I can't believe Gary, Neda, Brittnee and Nikki all won BBCAN, I'm so happy :love:

[AarynGriesfan]

It's funny in a season of international house guests that they set an international record by crowning the worst winner in any very of Big Brother. So congrats Canada!

[AarynGriesfan]

also :joker: @ the fact Jase and Veronica were invited to the finale AND actually showed up?!?! Are they being paid to be here too?!

Of course they were no one is going to take that expensive plane ride over just for the hell of it.

[Mokka]

I can't believe Gary, Neda, Brittnee and Nikki all won BBCAN, I'm so happy :love:

Yasss!!!

I love living in my own little fantasy world :flutter:

[RichardG]

eww i'm glad i stopped watching this awful season weeks ago, watching the xenophobes take the crown would have been awful

[JerseyWins]

I can't believe Gary, Neda, Brittnee and Nikki all won BBCAN, I'm so happy :love:
:joker: :joker: :joker:

[Jack_]

I'm just saying that the reactions to a Tim victory would have been unbearable.

Oh come on, as if they wouldn't have been even worse had Kelsey won. You and a few others who were ironically supporting her would've lauded the 'yay a recruit won aren't recruits so amazing yay' line for years to come

Some people would've been happy with Tim winning, others not. Don't see how there'd be any overreactions, if anything more delight that the brothers didn't win :shrug:

[Samm]

Tragic season, tragic winner, glad it's over

I am dreading BBUS

[BBUKAUSFAN]

Just got done watching it, So tragic that they won, I feel like a lot of the jury members where bitter in a way. I will never re-watch this season due to the ending.

Oh well onto BBUSA and BBUk

[TomC]

It has been a fantastic season, so many great moments.

But I am absolutely disgusted at the end result. Literally the final four finished in my reverse order of preference, and that could be said for the final six too, just with Joel a bit lower.

The bros were horrible *****, I'm so shocked they won. When Maddy said 'I never thought I'd vote this way' I thought she was meaning she was voting for Kelsey :omgno: And then I thought Mitch said he would give his vote to one of the Third Wheel if they got to the F2? And I thought Nikki, Cass and Tim would vote for Kelsey. :shrug:

I have really never felt so disappointed in the end of a RTV series. Literally, my favourite has lost out almost every time since Nikki's eviction.

Also far too many montages in that final. I really like the BBUS/CAN format but this result has totally turned me off it. :umm2:

[Jack_]

Was a really nice touch letting Ramsey cast Canada's vote, a few people were suggesting that on Twitter so I'm glad they listened

Ramsey could have won this

I'm convinced he was on track to. He won both Veto comps when he was on the block, threw the ones he didn't need, began building a relationship with Jared, was unbelievably never on anyone's radar whatsoever and had great bonds with most of the jury. I think there's a chance he could've comp beasted his way to a win

It's sad he had to leave, I'd have taken him winning over this disgusting final two any day :sad:

[Braden]

I can't be bothered to watch the finale but what good moments were there?

What did people say when casting their vote?

[TomC]

Cass said 'The Black Widow strikes again. Byyee betches.'

:love:

[Braden]

Yaaaaas Cass

[Jack_]

I really like the BBUS/CAN format but this result has totally turned me off it. :umm2:

Don't let it. You win some and lose some with this format but at least the winners (usually) do so on merit.

For what it's worth all of the BBCan winners up until now have been great, well one I wasn't keen on but they aren't hateable

I can't be bothered to watch the finale but what good moments were there?

What did people say when casting their vote?

The intro was amazing, I enjoyed the season recap at the top of the show, part 1 of the HoH was visually incredible. Part 2 had a bit of drama with Kelsey stalling and Tim quitting, the jury's reaction when they realised they couldn't vote for Tim and we had this awful F2, the questioning is good for how embarrassing all of their answers were oh and the brothers got dragged for filth during, Arisa calling Maddy out for having two showmances and then absolutely obliterating Nick in her reply, I always find the voting interesting and then they did a drama & Tikki recap VT's that were great

I thought the finale was good bar the result

[Braden]

Thank you, Jack :love:

What did Nikki say when she cast her vote?

[Jack_]

Something like 'my winner ended up in the jury with me, but oh well, this still has to be done. Congratulations'

I actually thought she'd stumble locking her vote in (and God forbid pull a Topaz) but she did it smoothly :love:

talking of Topaz I love how still every finale Arisa always repeats herself like 'let me be crystal clear, you are voting for the person you want to WIN' :joker:

[Wizard.]

Why was Kelsey's answers and speech so bad?? Surely she would've prepared herself like after she studied. I know the bros answers and speech weren't good either but Nick talked quite eloquently.

[reece(:]

Kelsey's eyes were more protruding than normal in that questioning segment.

[Guuki]

I'm completely devastated the brothers have won. That's all I can say. :(
It's sad that such an amazing season of BBCAN ended with them winning it all.

[reece(:]

http://i.imgur.com/KZDhB0X.gif

[AarynGriesfan]

Tragic season, tragic winner, glad it's over

I am dreading BBUS

Don't be BB Canada set the bar so low that it would be impossible for BBUS to do worse.

[AarynGriesfan]

Why was Kelsey's answers and speech so bad?? Surely she would've prepared herself like after she studied. I know the bros answers and speech weren't good either but Nick talked quite eloquently.

Kelsey answers were not good but every time Phil opened his mouth he literally said the dumbest things you could possibly say. His answers made Kelsey's answers look good. Lucikly he had Nick there to bail him out a couple times.

[zakman440]

The Houseguests will be reuniting live on Facebook at around 7PM UK time. You can watch here:

http://facebook.com/BigBrotherCA

And you can submit a question here with the hashtag #askBBCAN:

http://twitter.com/BigBrotherCA

[VanessaFeltz.]

Congrats Steve you are not the worst winner ever!

But like seriously having winners like Brothers, Steve, Derrick, John, Andy, Ian for the past couple of years is really turning me off..

From now on i will never hope we can have a decent winners, i almost feel like you have to be basic trash to win big brother

[AarynGriesfan]

Congrats Steve you are not the worst winner ever!

But like seriously having winners like Brothers, Steve, Derrick, John, Andy, Ian for the past couple of years is really turning me off..

From now on i will never hope we can have a decent winners, i almost feel like you have to be basic trash to win big brother

Derrick was boring to watch on tv but he played a great game. The others winners weren't that good though.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Derrick was boring to watch on tv but he played a great game. The others winners weren't that good though.

I agree. But his personality was trash

[Braden]

I was actually happy that Kelsey won and took the Brothers cause I thought she'd win, but now I'm just pissed that she her total end-game was just playing for the Brother's.

[TomC]

It's only now occurred to me how selfish Tim was at the end of the series. He clearly wasn't that arsed about winning, yet robbed his best friend Cassandra of that opportunity.

[Jack_]

It's only now occurred to me how selfish Tim was at the end of the series. He clearly wasn't that arsed about winning, yet robbed his best friend Cassandra of that opportunity.

Sorry but Cass was the selfish one here, I love her as much as the next person but to expect someone to give up their game for you 70 odd days into the season and at F4 is just absurd

One of them should have won the Veto and they really should've been studying more. Once they lost all our hopes were gone, had Tass made F3 at least one of them would've been guaranteed F2 (and would probably have won). I'm gutted at the way things turned out but it all came down to that one comp and they should have been more prepared

[Braden]

I agree with TomC. If I were Cassandra I would be livid, to be honest I'd be livid if I were anyone bar Nikki.

[LukeB]

Forget your hate towards the bros and kelsey etc but if you were a juror who would you cast your vote to?

For me, I would cast it to the bros :unsure: (they are at the bottom of my rankings) they played better than Kelsey kind of and they wanted to win so much but Kelsey wasn't bothered about it at all and didn't even try to gain the votes.

[Jack_]

And what was Tim supposed to do anyway? Cass was asking him to tell Kelsey he was willing to leave like rofl yeah sure she's just going to do as he says? She would still leave

[LukeB]

And what was Tim supposed to do anyway? Cass was asking him to tell Kelsey he was willing to leave like rofl yeah sure she's just going to do as he says? She would still leave

Good point...


I don't think Kelsey would have voted Tim out if he wanted to.

[Braden]

Cassandra, being the closest person to Tim, clearly knew he wasn't bothered by winning. This was proven to be correct by what he did in the final HOH.

If he wanted someone else to win then why would he not give the POV to his closest ally to help her? Cassandra was selfish because it was her only option since Kelsey was playing for the brothers and there was no way they wanted Cass in the f3 over Tim. It was set in stone.

The fact that Tim gave up so easily is such a kick in the teeth to everyone who wanted to be in the final 3 so badly. It's kind of a joke tbh.

[LukeB]

Cassandra, being the closest person to Tim, clearly knew he wasn't bothered by winning. This was proven to be correct by what he did in the final HOH.

If he wanted someone else to win then why would he not give the POV to his closest ally to help her? Cassandra was selfish because it was her only option since Kelsey was playing for the brothers and there was no way they wanted Cass in the f3 over Tim. It was set in stone.

The fact that Tim gave up so easily is such a kick in the teeth to everyone who wanted to be in the final 3 so badly. It's kind of a joke tbh.

Tim deffo wanted to win :laugh: he puts on a i don't mind where I come act but deep down he wants to so bad. I get it was terrible for him to give up but he didn't study and he would have been there for ages so Kelsey would have won anyway.

[Braden]

I think he treated the whole game as a joke now I look at it at retrospect.

I think he wanted to play the game as best as he could, but was never too fussed about winning.

[Jack_]

Forget your hate towards the bros and kelsey etc but if you were a juror who would you cast your vote to?

For me, I would cast it to the bros :unsure: (they are at the bottom of my rankings) they played better than Kelsey kind of and they wanted to win so much but Kelsey wasn't bothered about it at all and didn't even try to gain the votes.

Kelsey. Her social game is really underrated on here. The girl was evicted and made F2, came back after spending time with Loveita with a new passion to play, she used her looks to her advantage with the brothers, she got on with most people on the jury bar Maddy. She won comps at the perfect times.

The brothers are ****ing morons, they were in a great place socially until the half way point, they then got GIVEN an HoH through pure bull**** luck when it should've been Nikki's and it all went to their head. They decided they wanted to side with the biggest threat left in the game - Jared - someone whom had been calling for them to be backdoored just a week earlier, all because they wanted to be in the ~cool gang~. They failed to evict Tim when they put him up in Ramsey's place so that's target one failed. Phil's rampant xenophobia and refusal to consult Nick (even when he won the comp) then led them to miss ANOTHER target in Cass by putting up the 'foreigners' enabling her to use the Veto to save the Threekshow. As a result they evicted Nikki ****ing Grahame of all people, probably the biggest goat of all time.

They were totally rude to Cass, Tim and Nikki and it's a miracle they didn't burn their jury votes and pretty much the only thing they have going for them is comp wins but they really aren't everything. They were delusional twats.

[Tregard]

I was rooting for Tim 100% right up until he gave up in round 2, such a stupid and annoying move compounded with his "I'm a wildcard" spiel really rubbed me up the wrong way. Literally, all he has to do was keep throwing evicted housemates up in order and he would have hit it eventually, and he would have done so in under 50 minutes. Giving up at that stage was so woeful I became entirely disinterested in who won. I look forward to seeing Mitch and Nikki (and I'd expect Ramsey) in BBCan All-Stars.

[TomC]

But Tim had already had the joy of 'winning'. Funny how he suddenly had this epiphany that he wanted others to experience. I'm sure Tim could have done a pretty good job on Kelsey.

[LukeB]

Kelsey. Her social game is really underrated on here. The girl was evicted and made F2, came back after spending time with Loveita with a new passion to play, she used her looks to her advantage with the brothers, she got on with most people on the jury bar Maddy. She won comps at the perfect times.

The brothers are ****ing morons, they were in a great place socially until the half way point, they then got GIVEN an HoH through pure bull**** luck when it should've been Nikki's and it all went to their head. They decided they wanted to side with the biggest threat left in the game - Jared - someone whom had been calling for them to be backdoored just a week earlier, all because they wanted to be in the ~cool gang~. They failed to evict Tim when they put him up in Ramsey's place so that's target one failed. Phil's rampant xenophobia and refusal to consult Nick (even when he won the comp) then led them to miss ANOTHER target in Cass by putting up the 'foreigners' enabling her to use the Veto to save the Threekshow. As a result they evicted Nikki ****ing Grahame of all people, probably the biggest goat of all time.

They were totally rude to Cass, Tim and Nikki and it's a miracle they didn't burn their jury votes and pretty much the only thing they have going for them is comp wins but they really aren't everything. They were delusional twats.

It wasn't just the bros being rude, most of the cast were rude towards each other, Kelsey claims to be a 'nice girl' which is hilarious, most people on twitter laugh when she says that and on Neda's snapchat she had old houseguests around and even they laughed at that bull****e :joker:. The bros were playing Big Brother, Kelsey was playing friendship bracelets. The bros are vile but they had more passion.

The bros were a target from day 1 and Kelsey was evicted and wouldn't have been F2 if it wasn't for that twist. The person who gets to the final without being evicted has a higher chance of getting my vote.

[JerseyWins]

Kelsey. Her social game is really underrated on here. The girl was evicted and made F2, came back after spending time with Loveita with a new passion to play, she used her looks to her advantage with the brothers, she got on with most people on the jury bar Maddy. She won comps at the perfect times.

The brothers are ****ing morons, they were in a great place socially until the half way point, they then got GIVEN an HoH through pure bull**** luck when it should've been Nikki's and it all went to their head. They decided they wanted to side with the biggest threat left in the game - Jared - someone whom had been calling for them to be backdoored just a week earlier, all because they wanted to be in the ~cool gang~. They failed to evict Tim when they put him up in Ramsey's place so that's target one failed. Phil's rampant xenophobia and refusal to consult Nick (even when he won the comp) then led them to miss ANOTHER target in Cass by putting up the 'foreigners' enabling her to use the Veto to save the Threekshow. As a result they evicted Nikki ****ing Grahame of all people, probably the biggest goat of all time.

They were totally rude to Cass, Tim and Nikki and it's a miracle they didn't burn their jury votes and pretty much the only thing they have going for them is comp wins but they really aren't everything. They were delusional twats.
But basically everyone was already planning on taking the brothers out at that point so it was smart of them to side with Jared & Kelsey. They actually gained their trust that week and finally had a legit group. Cass/Tim/Joel were already together and the brothers and Jared/Kelsey were already their main targets. They would've done the others' work for them by taking Jared out. Jared/Kelsey were also the stronger competitors to side with and they needed comp wins at that point in the game to survive. They had survived up to that point with their social game just barely getting themselves through ever since being a huge target in week 1.

It's still pretty damn impressive regardless of them making a couple boneheaded mistakes that you mention.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Tim is ****ing full of **** "ughh i dont wanna win" yeah right

Go away fake bitch i am glad this season is over and i dont have to see his fake face alongside majority of the cast

[Pete.]

Tim is ****ing full of **** "ughh i dont wanna win" yeah right

Go away fake bitch i am glad this season is over and i dont have to see his fake face alongside majority of the cast
:clap1:

[JerseyWins]

Just a thought... how the hell did the brothers win two public votes if they're supposedly hated so much? :joker:

The casual fans must have great taste. :fan:

[VanessaFeltz.]

Just a thought... how the hell did the brothers win two public votes if they're supposedly hated so much? :joker:

The casual fans must have great taste. :fan:

Tim 100k votes to win
Brothers 2 votes to win
Kelsey 1 vote to win

[Pete.]

The brothers came twice both times

[zakman440]

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[zakman440]

They're on NOW - and they're answering my question first!

https://www.facebook.com/BigBrotherCA/videos/995320783914249/?notif_t=live_video_explicit&notif_id=1463163382554081

[Headie]

Just a thought... how the hell did the brothers win two public votes if they're supposedly hated so much? :joker:

The casual fans must have great taste. :fan:

It's called rigging.

Where's the evidence they topped the votes?

[VanessaFeltz.]

It's called rigging.

Where's the evidence they topped the votes?

Also f6 hoh was rigged for them

[Pete.]

What was your question Zak

[zakman440]

What was your question Zak

Whether the brothers would've voted based on nationality or who had the best game if they weren't in the final 2 - they basically said that they'd have given a vote to Kelsey anyway :laugh:

[zakman440]

(I've also submitted a question to Tim and Nikki asking which BBUK/AU housemates should do BBCAN next - hopefully it'll get asked :fc:)

[Pete.]

Find Loveita!

[zakman440]

It looks like Tim and Nikki have made up :love:

[Pete.]

Tim being disgusting and playing with his chewing gum I see

[Ross.]

It's called rigging.

Where's the evidence they topped the votes?

:clap1:

[zakman440]

Paige watches the international versions :clap1:

[Pete.]

Paige is so lovely

[zakman440]

Tim on Maddy and Ramsey's night in the HOH room: "The sheets had to be washed"

:omgno:

[Cal.]

Had I been in jury I would have voted for Kelsey

[zakman440]

That was a nice reunion :love:

[Wizard.]

The Houseguests will be reuniting live on Facebook at around 7PM UK time. You can watch here:

http://facebook.com/BigBrotherCA

And you can submit a question here with the hashtag #askBBCAN:

http://twitter.com/BigBrotherCA

Loveita wasn't there :conf:

[Mokka]

Loveita wasn't there :conf:

that's what I was thinking the whole time :sad:

[zakman440]

Not quite sure why Loveita wasn't there - I can only assume that she wanted to get back to her family ASAP (they were caught up in the Fort McMurray fires).

[Cal.]

Hope her family are okay<\3

[Daniel.]

I watched the final and liked it - I am so thankful that I have Cassandra to add to my list of all time favourite reality contestants and Nikki was just amazing :love: :love: :love:

[Daniel.]

I liked all the montages too :love: :love: :love:

[Calderyon]

Not really overly upset about Phil & Nick winning, since my #1 winner left on week 4/5 (Loveita).

Just didn´t want Cassandra to win. And my wish was answered.

[Headie]

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[LukeB]

:joker:

[Pete.]

Why is that brother blocking the winner of BBCAN4?

[coffee]

I read a spoiler by mistake :(
Not even bothered to watch the episode now (I can't find it anyway).
Can someone please post what the jury voted? I would like to know it, please :)

[Calderyon]

Jared and Raul voted for Kelsey, all the others voted for Phil & Nick to win including Canada, meaning they won by 7-2.

[coffee]

Jared and Raul voted for Kelsey, all the others voted for Phil & Nick to win including Canada, meaning they won by 7-2.

Thank you :)

Not surprised. I was hoping for a shock like jared would vote the bros lol

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Not really overly upset about Phil & Nick winning, since my #1 winner left on week 4/5 (Loveita).

Just didn´t want Cassandra to win. And my wish was answered.

:clap1:

[Jack_]

Cassandra, being the closest person to Tim, clearly knew he wasn't bothered by winning. This was proven to be correct by what he did in the final HOH.

If he wanted someone else to win then why would he not give the POV to his closest ally to help her? Cassandra was selfish because it was her only option since Kelsey was playing for the brothers and there was no way they wanted Cass in the f3 over Tim. It was set in stone.

The fact that Tim gave up so easily is such a kick in the teeth to everyone who wanted to be in the final 3 so badly. It's kind of a joke tbh.

It was the brothers Veto though, not his. He can't decide what to do with it.

They had all made a F3 pact and neither the brothers nor Kelsey were going to budge on that based upon how much they insisted they never lied.

I'm as disappointed as anyone else that Tim quit the last HoH comp, but the more I've thought about it, the more I've realised it wasn't going to affect the overall result anyway. Yes he had about twenty more minutes on Kelsey to complete the last question, but if she could waste so much time just needing to switch two of the dice around when she'd studied, he could definitely have taken longer needing to rearrange all of the dice when he didn't have a clue what he was doing. I also doubt he'd have beaten Phil in part three anyway.

It was all over when he lost part one, but even then...against Kelsey in part three? It just wasn't happening. The lesson here is that you need to study.

But Tim had already had the joy of 'winning'. Funny how he suddenly had this epiphany that he wanted others to experience. I'm sure Tim could have done a pretty good job on Kelsey.

Don't buy into that, he was just saying it to save face. He wanted to win just as much as anyone else did and I'm amazed anyone, especially the houseguests, ever bought into it. It was a strategy to make him appear less threatening and it amazingly worked.

If he could have done a good job on Kelsey he'd have managed to persuade her to take him to F2 and he didn't.

What Cass and Tim should have done is tried to persuade the brothers to use the Veto on him and make him the voter by convincing them that Kelsey and Cass were in cahoots and she'd vote him out, so Tim would keep his word and evict Cass. Then when it came down to it break the promise again and send Kelsey out the door.

It's a very long shot but if they could pull off what they did the week previous it would've been worth a shot and I'm sad they didn't think of it.

The bottom line of it is that asking someone to roll over and quit for you like Cass was doing is just silly so late into the game and it's actually disrespectful to herself to try and stick around like that. They should have won the Veto.

[LukeB]

Wait what... Did i just see maddy and kelsey have a selfie together on the bbcan snapchat?

[Jack_]

Ramsey's also snapping with a load of HG's - ramseycharming

lmaooo at them putting Joel's Call Me Maybe on the big screen at the wrap party, and JASE IS THERE :joker: :joker:

[Jack_]

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:laugh2: :love:

[Dominic]

Canadians voting the brothers to win over anyone is worrying

[LukeB]

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[Ross.]

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:laugh2: :love:

:joker:

[Jamie89]

Gutted about the final 2, but between them I'm pleased the brothers won over Kelsey. I didn't like them but they were slightly less 'meh', and to be fair they did great in the challenges etc. And anyway, I've loved watching this format so I feel like I can't really complain about the winner without it being a complaint about the format, you can't really have it both ways, if you're not going to have a public vote then you have to accept that your faves will most likely not win. This series has been fantastic overall though, it was my first non-bbuk series and I've loved it sooo much, I'm definitely going to be watching more of BBCan in the future.

[Jamie89]

Also, Arisa was amazing and one of my favourite things about the series! Perfect BB presenter :love:

[Jack_]

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:joker:

[LukeB]

Gutted about the final 2, but between them I'm pleased the brothers won over Kelsey. I didn't like them but they were slightly less 'meh', and to be fair they did great in the challenges etc. And anyway, I've loved watching this format so I feel like I can't really complain about the winner without it being a complaint about the format, you can't really have it both ways, if you're not going to have a public vote then you have to accept that your faves will most likely not win. This series has been fantastic overall though, it was my first non-bbuk series and I've loved it sooo much, I'm definitely going to be watching more of BBCan in the future.

I really hate the bros and Kelsey but hated the bros more so I would have preferred a Kelsey win but coming to think of it I'm glad the brothers won over Kelsey. The brothers were vile but they played better than Kelsey and they actually wanted it more than anything where with Kelsey she didn't really care.. like Tim said the brothers put up a fight to win this(reason why he voted them).. People like Cassandra wanted to win so bad which I admire so it's a shame people like Kelsey was like it's nothing.. another reason why Tim annoyed me because Cassandra could have took his place in the final 3 but he quit the most important comp!!

[Jack_]

Kelsey was never going to keep Cass, and Cass was never going to make F2 with Kelsey and the brothers competing against her

The F4 Veto lost Tass this season

[Jamie89]

I really hate the bros and Kelsey but hated the bros more so I would have preferred a Kelsey win but coming to think of it I'm glad the brothers won over Kelsey. The brothers were vile but they played better than Kelsey and they actually wanted it more than anything where with Kelsey she didn't really care.. like Tim said the brothers put up a fight to win this(reason why he voted them).. People like Cassandra wanted to win so bad which I admire so it's a shame people like Kelsey was like it's nothing.. another reason why Tim annoyed me because Cassandra could have took his place in the final 3 but he quit the most important comp!!

Yeah I pretty much agree with this. Like, before the final I would have said the brothers winning was worst case scenario, but when it came down to the F2 I realised that personal feelings aside, they deserved it more, and Kelsey just came across like she couldn't care less.

I felt annoyed at Tim watching the final too, but thinking about it, he can't really be blamed for Cass not getting further, she has to take responsibility for herself, and it shouldn't really be up to Tim to carry her. At the time, when he had the choice of saving Cass, he didn't feel like he was ready to leave, and he wanted to win etc, and even if that changed later on, it's still fair enough that he felt like that at the time and made his decision based on it. It was up to him to play the game how he chooses and as much as I love her, Cass is the only one who can really be blamed for leaving when she did.

[LukeB]

@Jack_ How do you even know Cassandra wouldn't have beaten Kelsey in part 2 HOH... did you forget Kelsey won that by default? and don't forget the F4 veto comp..Cassandra was one minute behind Nick. Phil sucked at the last part of HOH so Cassandra could have easily beat him..and then Cassandra would have won BBCAN4

[Jack_]

@Jack_ How do you even know Cassandra wouldn't have beaten Kelsey in part 2 HOH... did you forget Kelsey won that by default? and don't forget the F4 veto comp..Cassandra was one minute behind Nick. Phil sucked at the last part of HOH so Cassandra could have easily beat him..and then Cassandra would have won BBCAN4

The only comp Cass won this season wasn't even by her own doing, and yes she may have been a minute behind Nick in the F4 Veto but let's not forget Kelsey struggled to find the last clue (which isn't a test of memory, just finding something), had she done so she'd have been in second

There was no way she was winning part one, and I still don't think she'd have won part two or three either. She may have studied but not nearly as much as the brothers or Kelsey did, even if Phil did suck in part three

And again, Kelsey was never going to keep Cass. People can keep peddling this 'Tim should have quit for Cass' all they like, but it wasn't his Veto, he wasn't voting...it's not up to him. The brothers, Kelsey and him made a pact and her loyalty was evidently not going to waiver so Cass wasn't going to make F3 ever. Had Tim or Cass won the F4 Veto, at least one of them would have been guaranteed F2 and they would've won this season

[LukeB]

Yeah I pretty much agree with this. Like, before the final I would have said the brothers winning was worst case scenario, but when it came down to the F2 I realised that personal feelings aside, they deserved it more, and Kelsey just came across like she couldn't care less.

I felt annoyed at Tim watching the final too, but thinking about it, he can't really be blamed for Cass not getting further, she has to take responsibility for herself, and it shouldn't really be up to Tim to carry her. At the time, when he had the choice of saving Cass, he didn't feel like he was ready to leave, and he wanted to win etc, and even if that changed later on, it's still fair enough that he felt like that at the time and made his decision based on it. It was up to him to play the game how he chooses and as much as I love her, Cass is the only one who can really be blamed for leaving when she did.

Her answers were terrible like Phil's (luckily he had Nick) but Kelsey's speech is the worst ever speech I've ever seen, she studied the comps but didn't think of a good speech.

It just annoys me when people quit comps when it's important for them to win it because Tim should have known if he didn't win that then he's guaranteed 3rd place. In season 3, 2 people quit a comp which was important for them and their alliance. But I know he shouldn't be the blame for Cassandra going.

[LukeB]

The only comp Cass won this season wasn't even by her own doing, and yes she may have been a minute behind Nick in the F4 Veto but let's not forget Kelsey struggled to find the last clue (which isn't a test of memory, just finding something), had she done so she'd have been in second

There was no way she was winning part one, and I still don't think she'd have won part two or three either. She may have studied but not nearly as much as the brothers or Kelsey did, even if Phil did suck in part three

And again, Kelsey was never going to keep Cass. People can keep peddling this 'Tim should have quit for Cass' all they like, but it wasn't his Veto, he wasn't voting...it's not up to him. The brothers, Kelsey and him made a pact and her loyalty was evidently not going to waiver so Cass wasn't going to make F3 ever. Had Tim or Cass won the F4 Veto, at least one of them would have been guaranteed F2 and they would've won this season

Did you forget she won veto by herself a mental one? She had a stronger chance at winning part 2 tbh and deffo part 3 because Phil didn't even know anything.

[Jack_]

Did you forget she won veto by herself a mental one? She had a stronger chance at winning part 2 tbh and deffo part 3 because Phil didn't even know anything.

Ah yes so she did, but it's still pointless arguing the toss over this because it didn't matter - once they lost the F4 Veto she wasn't making F3 and I don't see how you envisage her doing so?

[Macie Lightfoot]

okay I know people are going to hate Kelsey no matter what but her speech was def not the worst ever lol like GinaMarie and Liz just happened.

[Jack_]

^ the brothers and Kelsey were as bad as each other and I'd put them both on par with them tbh

Honestly one of the most embarrassing jury questioning and final statement segments I've ever seen

[Jamie89]

I've never seen a jury speech before and I cringed at both of them tbh :laugh: The brothers' was better though, yes they stumbled a few times but they put more passion into it.

[Jack_]

This should've been Kelsey's speech

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[Jack_]

Arisa nailed it on Twitter the other day tbh, this jury was obsessed with 'owning your game' and both Kelsey and the brothers completely misread them, constantly trying to make out they never lied or did anything wrong

Mitch and Joel actually even deliberately gave Kelsey the opportunity to show how she had some kind of strategy to earn their vote and she just kept regurgitating 'I was loyal to my friends you know, I love Jared and Raul so much, I didn't want to lie in this game'. This is probably one of the only instances in North American BB history where the vote was actually determined on finale night. She blew it

[LukeB]

It makes me sad how this F3 is the worst F3 ever. Tim was the most vile housemate in there until Jared started being horrible towards females and bros went into Xenophobia mode.

[Jack_]

:joker: Tim was never ever as vile as Jared at any point, he was never vile at all

[LukeB]

:joker: Tim was never ever as vile as Jared at any point, he was never vile at all

How can you say Tim bringing up Nikki's illness during an argument is not vile? :umm2:

[Jack_]

How can you say Tim bringing up Nikki's illness during an argument is not vile? :umm2:

omg are we still going on about this, yes it was vile but it was once! What else did he do that was so vile? Shout in the DR? oh yeah such a crime

If Nikki can forgive him then I don't see the issue, this was one instance like two months ago :umm2: that doesn't make someone a 'vile person', he has nothing on Jared and the brothers

[LukeB]

omg are we still going on about this, yes it was vile but it was once! What else did he do that was so vile? Shout in the DR? oh yeah such a crime

If Nikki can forgive him then I don't see the issue, this was one instance like two months ago :umm2: that doesn't make someone a 'vile person', he has nothing on Jared and the brothers

BIB. Since when have I been against shouting in the DR? I'm not one of those people who thinks shouting is worse than racism and I'm a fan of Zach Rance/Johhny Mac.

It was a ****ed up comment and it was one of the worst things to be said of BBCAN4 until the bros xenophobia(if they weren't xenophobic then they wouldn't have been that bad because most of the cast treated others terribly). He was a vile person at the time but Jared and the bros took over that title.

[Jack_]

BIB. Since when have I been against shouting in the DR? I'm not one of those people who thinks shouting is worse than racism and I'm a fan of Zach Rance/Johhny Mac.

It was a ****ed up comment and it was one of the worst things to be said of BBCAN4 until the bros xenophobia(if they weren't xenophobic then they wouldn't have been that bad because most of the cast treated others terribly). He was a vile person at the time but Jared and the bros took over that title.

I know, so then what else is it that makes him a 'vile person'? One isolated incident does not define a person, Jared's misogyny was on-going, as was the brothers xenophobia, as was Aaryn's racism, as was Scumanda's bullying. These all define a person. One comment, as vile as it may have been, said in the the heat of an argument does not define somebody and the insinuation that it does is really quite stupid

He was never a 'vile person'

[Jack_]

Talking of Jun she wrote this and it's really good :love:

http://jundishes.com/2016/05/14/what-big-brother-canada-4-meant-to-me/