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arista
09-03-2016, 07:22 AM
Wow the new KKK leader won Mississipi what a shock! The second most racist state with 11 KKK groups after Texas. :laugh: I bet they can't wait to start burning folks again.


Its One State
that Hates Creepy Cruz


What about the State "Michigan"
Trump Won that as well

arista
09-03-2016, 07:22 AM
Well done Donald.
Congratulations on winning two more states! :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:



Yes President Trump


What A Guy

DemolitionRed
09-03-2016, 09:00 AM
There's something wrong with our society when we can glorify someone openly that condemns whole groups of people. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/this-is-perhaps-the-most-disturbing-part-of-donald-trumps-campaign_us_56b3654ae4b08069c7a63003

Donald Trump makes me proud to be European. Its comforting to know that its only a very small minority of Brits who admire this monster, so whilst we may get the impression (on this site) that there's a lot of admiration for this racist despot, its merely a tiny pocket of people who have found each other and in no way represent British feeling towards Trump.

Alf
09-03-2016, 01:37 PM
[QUOTE=DemolitionRed;8554553]

Donald Trump makes me proud to be European. QUOTE]

:joker:

kirklancaster
10-03-2016, 08:31 AM
There's something wrong with our society when we can glorify someone openly that condemns whole groups of people. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/this-is-perhaps-the-most-disturbing-part-of-donald-trumps-campaign_us_56b3654ae4b08069c7a63003

Donald Trump makes me proud to be European. Its comforting to know that its only a very small minority of Brits who admire this monster, so whilst we may get the impression (on this site) that there's a lot of admiration for this racist despot, its merely a tiny pocket of people who have found each other and in no way represent British feeling towards Trump.

Yep - I find it so reassuring that the catabolic 'tear everything down which I am not part of and can never hope to be part of' club on this site which seems to dominate most threads, is not REALLY representative of the majority view of Tibb or the real world at all, but merely due due to a tiny pocket of lost people who have found each other clustering together in mutual support.

arista
11-03-2016, 08:22 AM
Ben Carson - who left the race
is now backing Trump.



Ref: FoxNewsHD

arista
11-03-2016, 02:19 PM
Ben Carson was just Live with Trump (all news)
Trump wants to use Ben on his Education Projects


Right On.


Make America Great


http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2016/3/11/452131/default/v2/cegrab-20160311-141335-313-1-736x414.jpg

Crimson Dynamo
11-03-2016, 02:25 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdPsjgSUYAEcocZ.jpg

arista
11-03-2016, 02:38 PM
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2016/3/11/452132/default/v2/cegrab-20160311-141313-313-1-736x414.jpg

http://news.sky.com/story/1658157/trump-wins-endorsement-of-former-rival-carson

Ammi
11-03-2016, 05:23 PM
Anonymous leaks Donald Trump's voicemail messages



Hacktivist collective Anonymous has leaked messages from Donald Trump's voicemail as part of its cyber campaign against the US presidential candidate, according to reports. The recordings, seen by Gawker, apparently include messages from MSNBC news anchors, New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and boxing promoter Don King.


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/anonymous-leaks-donald-trumps-voicemail-044129726.html

arista
11-03-2016, 05:25 PM
Anonymous leaks Donald Trump's voicemail messages


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/anonymous-leaks-donald-trumps-voicemail-044129726.html


He just gets Even More Support Ammi.

arista
12-03-2016, 04:08 AM
Its 9:08 PM
in Chicago at a Trump Rally.

Its fantastic
Mexicans with Banners saying one side
"we are not victims"
and the other side bigger "TRUMP"


There are some protesters
but that was expected.



Trump Live on FoxNewsHD via phone says he
"Loves Chicago
its a shame
the rally got cancelled"

arista
12-03-2016, 04:14 AM
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2016/3/12/452249/default/v1/rtx28sph-1-736x414.jpg


Look Punk we do not need your input
piss off to your Saunders Rally


[Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump
has cancelled a rally in Chicago due to security concerns.
Violence broke out at the University of Illinois
after an announcement was made that
the rally would be postponed.]

http://news.sky.com/story/1658424/violence-as-trump-rally-cancelled-in-chicago


Trump Still Live on FoxNewsHD via phone said
people had been in line for 5 hours
for Free Speech.
Its Wrong.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
12-03-2016, 11:52 AM
Trump is Isis's dream come true. Creating perfect division :thumbs:
http://i.imgur.com/sVChYTx.jpg

arista
12-03-2016, 12:11 PM
Thats nothing to do with Trump
Police stopped the University Rally



some had
been there for 5 hours
so its no wonder tempers got high

lostalex
12-03-2016, 04:30 PM
Scotland is gonna have some hell to pay over that whole wind farm thing...

lostalex
12-03-2016, 04:31 PM
Trump is Isis's dream come true. Creating perfect division :thumbs:
http://i.imgur.com/sVChYTx.jpg

such a drama queen. :joker:

Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2016, 04:42 PM
i would not be surprised if black protesters are trying to get assaulted to damage Donald's campaign and cry racism

Tom4784
12-03-2016, 04:51 PM
i would not be surprised if black protesters are trying to get assaulted to damage Donald's campaign and cry racism

Because that makes more sense than Trump simply having a lot of support from racists.

Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2016, 05:15 PM
Because that makes more sense than Trump simply having a lot of support from racists.

It does to me, I have no idea why they would go to a rally to protest, it makes no sense
]
unless they are just plain morons?

Northern Monkey
12-03-2016, 06:22 PM
It does to me, I have no idea why they would go to a rally to protest, it makes no sense
]
unless they are just plain morons?

This is a good point.They would'nt get into altercations with supporters if they were'nt there in the first place trying to disrupt a presidential rally.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
12-03-2016, 06:23 PM
Thats nothing to do with Trump
Police stopped the University Rally



some had
been there for 5 hours
so its no wonder tempers got high

It has everything to do with Trump! Those are the people he's attracting. He starting his campaign not thinking he was going to have a chance anyway so he was being honest about his intentions. His comments on Mexicans, Muslims and etc. He's only trying to seem somewhat political now because racist idiots are actually voting for him. And he has been known to encourage violence before. And I can't remember another campaign where protesters where met with such violence.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
12-03-2016, 06:25 PM
This is a good point.They would'nt get into altercations with supporters if they were'nt there in the first place trying to disrupt a presidential rally.

There have been plenty of campaigns where protesters aren't meant with violence. These racist idiots are freaking animals. And if said protester is being led out what is the point of pushing and shoving them and then striking a blow? What sense does it make if they're being led out?

arista
12-03-2016, 06:26 PM
i would not be surprised if black protesters are trying to get assaulted to damage Donald's campaign and cry racism


Yes Valid point LT.


The Good thing is Dr. Ben Carson is Black
and backs Trump to be the new President.

Northern Monkey
12-03-2016, 06:27 PM
There have been plenty of campaigns where protesters aren't meant with violence. These racist idiots are freaking animals. And if said protester is being led out what is the point of pushing and shoving them and then striking a blow? What sense does it make if they're being led out?
Happens all the time.I've had bouncers punch me when leading me out of a nightclub.

Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2016, 06:28 PM
"Two officers suffered injuries, he said. One was hit in the head with a bottle."


That is disgusting, these protesters or hoodlums should be arrested and banged up for a day or two


http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/11/politics/donald-trump-chicago-protests/

lostalex
12-03-2016, 06:31 PM
still less injuries and damage than at Black Lives Matter protests or Occupy protests...

just saying....

arista
12-03-2016, 06:37 PM
"Two officers suffered injuries, he said. One was hit in the head with a bottle."


That is disgusting, these protesters or hoodlums should be arrested and banged up for a day or two


http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/11/politics/donald-trump-chicago-protests/


Yes these Violent Punks are not wanted.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
12-03-2016, 06:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/rlo95wK.jpg

Gross. Only the black protesters seem to get punched and shoved. The man in the jean jacket is a trump protester, no doubt she said Heil Hitler, he confirmed it.

Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2016, 06:45 PM
http://i.imgur.com/rlo95wK.jpg

Gross. Only the black protesters seem to get punched and shoved. The man in the jean jacket is a trump protester, no doubt she said Heil Hitler, he confirmed it.

yes I am sure that granny is a Nazi

:joker:

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
12-03-2016, 06:47 PM
still less injuries and damage than at Black Lives Matter protests or Occupy protests...

just saying....

That's because the protesters aren't coming with guns and weapons unlike the white power protesters that did come with weapons.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
12-03-2016, 06:48 PM
yes I am sure that granny is a Nazi

:joker:

This woman is a human being and although I don’t share her views, I start yelling “I will respect my elders. Please. Leave.” and a few other great folks and I start to clear the path. I walk right up to her and say “Ma’am we have listened to you. We understand this is all a little wild but we have cleared a path for you to leave *my right hand was constantly swinging in motion, showing her the path out we made for her, as shown in the photo*”

She goes, and I quote “Go? Back in my day, you know what we did-”

Bam. Hail’s Hitler.

I go “Ma’am you are endagering your life doing this. LEAVE. TAKE YOUR HUSBAND AND LEAVE.” (I mean, anyone who knows me knows I get loud, so you know, sorry about that.)





...............

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
12-03-2016, 06:52 PM
"Two officers suffered injuries, he said. One was hit in the head with a bottle."


That is disgusting, these protesters or hoodlums should be arrested and banged up for a day or two


http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/11/politics/donald-trump-chicago-protests/

Lol why am I not surprised that they cheered the loudest when Trump said ''They want a border they want a wall'' cheering so loud Trump had to stop. Literally all they care about.

Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2016, 06:56 PM
...............

so she gestures and he calls it a nazi salute :facepalm:



go see alfs 3 pics of Hilary doing a nazi salutehttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zsrtX55GLWs/SR9VVFaiH1I/AAAAAAAAAGU/us-RpNTNpug/s1600/hillary%2Bseig.bmp


oh look Obamas at it too


http://illuminatisymbols.info/wp-content/themes/grido/themify/img.php?src=http://illuminatisymbols.info/wp-content/uploads/illuminati-signs-obama-nazi-salute.jpg&w=670&h=&zc=1

Even some HIgh ranking Jews are bloody Nazis now http://www.algemeiner.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/netanyahu-1.jpg

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
12-03-2016, 07:00 PM
I wish Native Americans all the best in their fight towards getting their land back. White people take too much freaking liberties.

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 09:03 AM
Trump now to press charges against protesters

:clap1:

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 09:05 AM
watch this video

absolutely sickening

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/12/politics/donald-trump-protests/

well done the SS

bots
13-03-2016, 09:15 AM
watch this video

absolutely sickening

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/12/politics/donald-trump-protests/

well done the SS

The protesters are playing in to Trumps hand if they are going to behave like that. The land of free speech

user104658
13-03-2016, 09:22 AM
LT I can't figure out if you're being disingenuous to further your own argument (not sure what that argument even is) or simply blinkered. I know you can't possibly genuinely believe that this is simply a "badly timed photo", though.

user104658
13-03-2016, 09:26 AM
Putting the "Trump / Nazi" comparisons argument aside, it can't be denied (I hope???) that there is still a very active supremacist presence in the US... And that people of that persuasion will very likely be positively wetting themselves hearing some of these "wall building" proposals, and that some of those people will indeed be attending Trump rallies.

Or are we going to simply deny all of that, too? :umm2:

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 09:36 AM
Putting the "Trump / Nazi" comparisons argument aside, it can't be denied (I hope???) that there is still a very active supremacist presence in the US... And that people of that persuasion will very likely be positively wetting themselves hearing some of these "wall building" proposals, and that some of those people will indeed be attending Trump rallies.

Or are we going to simply deny all of that, too? :umm2:

when you have just a handful and then just 2 people to support in a population of 300 million is this a surprise to you?

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 09:39 AM
this is the punk who stormed the stage.


https://amp.twimg.com/v/977860d3-6b1b-4a5f-a81e-67baa6e2e3b1


just look at the state of him, he should be, as DT says, in jail.

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 09:45 AM
I'm talking about the constant suggestions that photos of people making Nazi salute gestures at Trump rallies are all just conveniently timed photos and the attempts to "prove" this by providing such photos of political figures seemingly making said gestures.

At least some of the pictures are quite blatantly people making genuine Nazi salute gestures. I can't figure out what the adamant denial is all about?

I am questioning the flimsy anecdotal evidence as fact

user104658
13-03-2016, 09:46 AM
when you have just a handful and then just 2 people to support in a population of 300 million is this a surprise to you?
No, but they are attending Trump speeches and saluting him because many of his messages resonate strongly with them. This should be of at least SOME concern, to everyone. It should be of concern to Trump himself but he refuses to address it and merely refers to the ones who get violent as "passionate". Funny that he doesn't have the same attitude when it comes to anti-Trump demonstrators who get "passionate", isn't it?

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 09:49 AM
No, but they are attending Trump speeches and saluting him because many of his messages resonate strongly with them. This should be of at least SOME concern, to everyone. It should be of concern to Trump himself but he refuses to address it and merely refers to the ones who get violent as "passionate". Funny that he doesn't have the same attitude when it comes to anti-Trump demonstrators who get "passionate", isn't it?

there is a hill of beans of difference in attenting a rally in good faith in a happy mind and those nasty snarling protesters who are there to ruin things because " well we are right so we dont care"

Now they will be prosecuted and will have to take a criminal offence into account - if indeed they are employed

user104658
13-03-2016, 09:51 AM
Good faith and happy mind! :joker:

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 10:21 AM
Good faith and happy mind! :joker:

its how I arrive at Tibb Towers every day

:hee:


this is how I leave


:oh:

Cherie
13-03-2016, 10:25 AM
I find it amusing that those that are painting themselves as whiter than white (can I say that) and consider themselves to be in the right are the ones who can't make a counter argument without resorting to abuse :umm2:

user104658
13-03-2016, 10:36 AM
its how I arrive at Tibb Towers every day

:hee:

Really? I usually arrive sat on the toilet, bleary-eyed and mid-****.

user104658
13-03-2016, 10:38 AM
I find it amusing that those that are painting themselves as whiter than white (can I say that) and consider themselves to be in the right are the ones who can't make a counter argument without resorting to abuse :umm2:

So are you saying that LT considers himself to be in the wrong?

Cherie
13-03-2016, 10:42 AM
So are you saying that LT considers himself to be in the wrong?

Where did i say that?

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 10:48 AM
So are you saying that LT considers himself to be in the wrong?

i consider all possibilities, however remote they may seem to be...

user104658
13-03-2016, 10:51 AM
Where did i say that?

You said that " those who consider themselves to be in the right are the ones who can't make a counterpoint without resorting to personal attack" (against LT). LT, presumably being the flipside of this statement (not one of "those ones"), then must be someone who does NOT consider himself to be in the right. No?

user104658
13-03-2016, 10:53 AM
i consider all possibilities, however remote they may seem to be...

That is the exact opposite of what you do LT. You vocally reject any possibility if it is not explicitly backed by (your version of) concrete "evidence", unless it happens to fall in line with your own predisposition.

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 10:55 AM
That is the exact opposite of what you do LT. You vocally reject any possibility if it is not explicitly backed by (your version of) concrete "evidence", unless it happens to fall in line with your own predisposition.

:nono:

I am open to all wrong ideology, hence the reason I often break bread with you TS

user104658
13-03-2016, 10:58 AM
:nono:

I am open to all wrong ideology, hence the reason I often break bread with you TS
I'd challenge you to find just one post of yours made at any time recently that demonstrates an openness to any ideology, or any interpretation of anything at all, that wasn't your own...

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 11:02 AM
I'd challenge you to find just one post of yours made at any time recently that demonstrates an openness to any ideology, or any interpretation of anything at all, that wasn't your own...

Football Forum

what a shame for 3000 fans who made the trip to...

what a shame for 3000 fans who made the trip to watch a crap spurs weakened team get humped

i would write to the club for a refund

------------------------------------------
:clap1:

LT flying the flag for opposing teams, even one as vile as Spurs, to seek justice against The Man for the common people


:hee:

user104658
13-03-2016, 11:05 AM
A real thread about something that matters, LT :nono:

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 11:07 AM
A real thread about something that matters, LT :nono:

last 16 of the Europa is a big deal :nono:

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
13-03-2016, 11:56 AM
The protesters are playing in to Trumps hand if they are going to behave like that. The land of free speech

Yeah free speech doesn't mean say racist dumb crap and expect nobody to respond. He's being allowed his free hate speeches on a national platform and people that disagree are exercising their rights. Bye.

bots
13-03-2016, 12:06 PM
Yeah free speech doesn't mean say racist dumb crap and expect nobody to respond. He's being allowed his free hate speeches on a national platform and people that disagree are exercising their rights. Bye.

With respect, Trump has been controversial, but he has not been racist. Bye.

Cherie
13-03-2016, 12:10 PM
You said that " those who consider themselves to be in the right are the ones who can't make a counterpoint without resorting to personal attack" (against LT). LT, presumably being the flipside of this statement (not one of "those ones"), then must be someone who does NOT consider himself to be in the right. No?


You misinterpreted my post and twisted it to suit your own agenda, I won't bother explaining what I meant as you know perfectly well


Yeah free speech doesn't mean say racist dumb crap and expect nobody to respond. He's being allowed his free hate speeches on a national platform and people that disagree are exercising their rights. Bye.

You use your free speech to make anti white comments on here on a regular basis, are you racist?

Ammi
13-03-2016, 12:27 PM
Trump claims man who tried to rush stage connected to ISIS




WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump is claiming that the man who tried to rush the stage at his Ohio rally Saturday morning is connected to Islamic State militants — an allegation Middle East experts dismiss as farcical.

Trump was mid-speech at a rally at an airport near Dayton when a man, later identified by authorities as Thomas Dimassimo of Fairborn, Ohio, jumped a barricade and rushed at Trump. Video from the rally shows Dimassimo was able to touch the stage before security officials tackled him.

Speaking at a rally later Saturday in St. Lois, Trump told the crowd about the incident and said that, after learning the man's name, one of his "Internet people" discovered something shocking: alleged evidence that linked Dimassimo to Islamic State militants.

"It was probably ISIS or ISIS-related. Do you believe it?" Trump asked the crowd. He said that an online search had revealed "the guy is playing all sorts of, let's say music that you wouldn't be liking, dragging an American flag along the sidewalk, making all sorts of gestures, having all sorts of things on the Internet. And he's probably or possibly ISIS-related."

Trump appeared to be referring to a video, which was posted on his official Twitter account, that shows student protesters stepping on American flags, declaring, "Black Live Matters" and talking to reporters while religious music plays. It appears to be an edited version of a video posted on YouTube in April 2015 captioned, "Students at Wright State University #NotMyFlag protest. The protest occurred to stand in solidarity with the symbolic actions of Eric Sheppard." The original does not include the religious soundtrack.

Hassan Hassan, the co-author of the book "ISIS: Inside the Army of Terror," says the video is "definitely not an ISIS video" based on its content.

"This is utterly farcical; the video is incontrovertibly fake and Trump's accusations about it being linked to ISIS serve only to underline the totality of his ignorance on this issue," said Charles Lister, a fellow at the Middle East Institute.

Lister noted the video contains a long list of elements that a jihadi video would never include, among them countless uncovered women, men in shorts and tank tops, and a man holding arms with a woman.

"Nobody can deny that ISIS poses a threat to U.S. national security, but giving credence to such ridiculous claims is arguably even more dangerous," Lister said.



https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-claims-man-tried-rush-stage-connected-isis-024506604--election.html



...so the guy who could become the President of the USA, one of the most important and powerful people in the world, doesn't discreetly inform Secret Services of 'his guys' findings' with this man but announces to the whole of America, that he is linked with ISIS...Jesus H....

arista
13-03-2016, 12:35 PM
yes I am sure that granny is a Nazi

:joker:



Yes LT
Pathetic Attack
on Trump

Kizzy
13-03-2016, 12:36 PM
These 'rallies' seem to be taking a distinctly sinister turn.

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 12:38 PM
These 'rallies' seem to be taking a distinctly sinister turn.

yes thanks to illegal, violent "protesters"

arista
13-03-2016, 12:38 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/03/13/02/3223F10000000578-3489742-image-a-2_1457837692173.jpg
This is the part time actor who went to try to get on stage with Trump, Yesterday.

[He has also appeared on 'House of Payne'.
Above he is pictured from a
scene on the show in 2008]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3489742/Man-rushed-stage-Trump-rally-history-protesting-caused-uproar-year-standing-American-flag.html#ixzz42mnR5afx

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/03/13/02/3223908700000578-3489742-image-a-63_1457834796619.jpg

Cherie
13-03-2016, 12:39 PM
Trump claims man who tried to rush stage connected to ISIS




WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump is claiming that the man who tried to rush the stage at his Ohio rally Saturday morning is connected to Islamic State militants — an allegation Middle East experts dismiss as farcical.

Trump was mid-speech at a rally at an airport near Dayton when a man, later identified by authorities as Thomas Dimassimo of Fairborn, Ohio, jumped a barricade and rushed at Trump. Video from the rally shows Dimassimo was able to touch the stage before security officials tackled him.

Speaking at a rally later Saturday in St. Lois, Trump told the crowd about the incident and said that, after learning the man's name, one of his "Internet people" discovered something shocking: alleged evidence that linked Dimassimo to Islamic State militants.

"It was probably ISIS or ISIS-related. Do you believe it?" Trump asked the crowd. He said that an online search had revealed "the guy is playing all sorts of, let's say music that you wouldn't be liking, dragging an American flag along the sidewalk, making all sorts of gestures, having all sorts of things on the Internet. And he's probably or possibly ISIS-related."

Trump appeared to be referring to a video, which was posted on his official Twitter account, that shows student protesters stepping on American flags, declaring, "Black Live Matters" and talking to reporters while religious music plays. It appears to be an edited version of a video posted on YouTube in April 2015 captioned, "Students at Wright State University #NotMyFlag protest. The protest occurred to stand in solidarity with the symbolic actions of Eric Sheppard." The original does not include the religious soundtrack.

Hassan Hassan, the co-author of the book "ISIS: Inside the Army of Terror," says the video is "definitely not an ISIS video" based on its content.

"This is utterly farcical; the video is incontrovertibly fake and Trump's accusations about it being linked to ISIS serve only to underline the totality of his ignorance on this issue," said Charles Lister, a fellow at the Middle East Institute.

Lister noted the video contains a long list of elements that a jihadi video would never include, among them countless uncovered women, men in shorts and tank tops, and a man holding arms with a woman.

"Nobody can deny that ISIS poses a threat to U.S. national security, but giving credence to such ridiculous claims is arguably even more dangerous," Lister said.



https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-claims-man-tried-rush-stage-connected-isis-024506604--election.html



...so the guy who could become the President of the USA, one of the most important and powerful people in the world, doesn't discreetly inform Secret Services of 'his guys' findings' with this man but announces to the whole of America, that he is linked with ISIS...Jesus H....

What a leap :joker:

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
13-03-2016, 12:40 PM
You misinterpreted my post and twisted it to suit your own agenda, I won't bother explaining what I meant as you know perfectly well




You use your free speech to make anti white comments on here on a regular basis, are you racist?

What like saying that I am not surprised that Trump won Mississipi because there are 11 KKK groups in that area? By saying there are nazis at his rally?, info backed by news sources? Saying white people take liberties because they stole this land and repeatedly tell people took back where they came from? What are you referring to?

arista
13-03-2016, 12:40 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/03/13/01/322189B200000578-3489742-image-a-35_1457832256443.jpg
Yesterday The punk - dragged away by Secret Service agents

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
13-03-2016, 12:41 PM
With respect, Trump has been controversial, but he has not been racist. Bye.

Mexicans are are rapists. Should I dig up some more?

arista
13-03-2016, 12:43 PM
Mexicans are are rapists. Should I dig up some more?


No need
it just helps Trump.


There was Legal Mexicans at the Rally
Voting Trump

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
13-03-2016, 12:45 PM
These 'rallies' seem to be taking a distinctly sinister turn.

That's what happens when a vile human being is on his way to dictate a country. This is just a taster of what's to come if he becomes president. People laugh at me saying that Trump is Isis's dream but what do Isis experts say? That Isis wants the Muslims to be hated, they want division because that will encourage more people to side with them.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
13-03-2016, 12:47 PM
No need
it just helps Trump.


There was Legal Mexicans at the Rally
Voting Trump


Slave owners ****ed black maids and had the good ******* in the house what's your point?

Kizzy
13-03-2016, 12:49 PM
yes thanks to illegal, violent "protesters"

Nope, guess again.

Kizzy
13-03-2016, 12:51 PM
That's what happens when a vile human being is on his way to dictate a country. This is just a taster of what's to come if he becomes president. People laugh at me saying that Trump is Isis's dream but what do Isis experts say? That Isis wants the Muslims to be hated, they want division because that will encourage more people to side with them.

!00% agree there, his totalitarian vision is regressive and as a vision for the future Orwellian and horrifying.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
13-03-2016, 12:57 PM
!00% agree there, his totalitarian vision is regressive and as a vision for the future Orwellian and horrifying.


Absolutely!

arista
13-03-2016, 01:06 PM
Slave owners ****ed black maids and had the good ******* in the house what's your point?



Trump is better now
Dr.Carson the Black Man
is looking at the Education Plans.

Ben Carson does not like your attack attitude.

http://a57.foxnews.com/media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2016/03/11/780/438/694940094001_4796979818001_0ce03354-f964-4480-9a85-0ed7ace0bd19.jpg

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
13-03-2016, 01:09 PM
Trump is better now
Dr.Carson the Black Man
is looking at the Education Plans.

Ben Carson does not like your attack attitude.
]
Like I said before, he's an uncle Tom. Him supporting Donald Trump does not mean Trump's racism is acceptable. Ben Carson is that good ****** he needs on his side. And he'll probably call him a fool while smoking cigars with his dudes.

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 01:30 PM
Like I said before, he's an uncle Tom. Him supporting Donald Trump does not mean Trump's racism is acceptable. Ben Carson is that good ****** he needs on his side. And he'll probably call him a fool while smoking cigars with his dudes.

The guy is a retired Neurosurgeon :umm2:


I am sure he does not want your racist views foisted upon him

Kizzy
13-03-2016, 01:31 PM
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/black-protester-completely-shuts-down-white-trump-supporters-go-back-to-africa-comment--ZJvOOnOP1b

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 01:34 PM
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/black-protester-completely-shuts-down-white-trump-supporters-go-back-to-africa-comment--ZJvOOnOP1b

Kizzy you know that America had quite a few racists before Trump started his campaign


right?

arista
13-03-2016, 01:50 PM
Like I said before, he's an uncle Tom. Him supporting Donald Trump does not mean Trump's racism is acceptable. Ben Carson is that good ****** he needs on his side. And he'll probably call him a fool while smoking cigars with his dudes.


Uncle Tom
Ben is Not
he is a Doctor


Why do you have to put everyone in boxes?

arista
13-03-2016, 01:54 PM
The guy is a retired Neurosurgeon :umm2:


I am sure he does not want your racist views foisted upon him


Yes Ben is Cool

GiRTh
13-03-2016, 02:52 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3489656/To-dismiss-Trump-bigoted-buffoon-YUGE-mistake-s-elite-bashing-hit-workers-Political-svengali-helped-sweep-David-Cameron-power-gives-stunning-appraisal-president.html

Interesting read.

GiRTh
13-03-2016, 02:54 PM
cFSERNfT6N8

:joker:

arista
13-03-2016, 02:57 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3489656/To-dismiss-Trump-bigoted-buffoon-YUGE-mistake-s-elite-bashing-hit-workers-Political-svengali-helped-sweep-David-Cameron-power-gives-stunning-appraisal-president.html

Interesting read.

Yes Trump
is no fool

GiRTh
13-03-2016, 02:59 PM
-cA0NM5RAY0Trump with a cockney accent :joker:

arista
13-03-2016, 03:07 PM
Great Find Girth

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 03:10 PM
-cA0NM5RAY0Trump with a cockney accent :joker:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/Frank_butcher222.jpg

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 03:11 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3489656/To-dismiss-Trump-bigoted-buffoon-YUGE-mistake-s-elite-bashing-hit-workers-Political-svengali-helped-sweep-David-Cameron-power-gives-stunning-appraisal-president.html

Interesting read.

"Of course, I understand that Trump’s rhetoric sometimes causes real offence. But he’s not a bigot or a racist or a madman: he’s just a political amateur who says the first thing that comes into his head. After years of slick, calculating, machine politicians, Trump’s rough and ready authenticity has real appeal."


:clap1:

that is what i like about him

arista
13-03-2016, 03:13 PM
cFSERNfT6N8

:joker:



Its Strange the Sassy Voice
makes it all seem normal?

GiRTh
13-03-2016, 03:18 PM
728_Lwz3nD0

The best one yet.

@1.05 Nunnnh! :joker::joker::joker:

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 03:23 PM
728_Lwz3nD0

The best one yet.

@1.05 Nunnnh! :joker::joker::joker:

:joker:

arista
13-03-2016, 03:51 PM
Posh Voice
all seems more Fair?

user104658
13-03-2016, 04:05 PM
"Of course, I understand that Trump’s rhetoric sometimes causes real offence. But he’s not a bigot or a racist or a madman: he’s just a political amateur who says the first thing that comes into his head. After years of slick, calculating, machine politicians, Trump’s rough and ready authenticity has real appeal."


:clap1:

that is what i like about him

Err. If the first thing that comes into his head is racist, then he's racist. Now, it may be correct that other politicians are also racist and have learned to hide it better than Trump, but come on. Spade is Spade.

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 04:09 PM
Err. If the first thing that comes into his head is racist, then he's racist. Now, it may be correct that other politicians are also racist and have learned to hide it better than Trump, but come on. Spade is Spade.

i have no idea what you are saying

user104658
13-03-2016, 04:14 PM
i have no idea what you are saying
The ridiculous suggestion that he's "not a bigot" because he's "just saying the first thing that pops into his head", LT.

If the first thing that pops into his head is offensive and bigoted then It's because he is at his very core a ****ing bigot. The thoughts didn't spring out of thin air! They weren't planted there by covert bigot aliens out to trip him up! They are his true uncensored opinions. Bigoted opinions. He hadn't learned to hide them yet, is basically what they are saying, but the fact that they're right there in your face doesn't somehow make them better opinions ffs.

kirklancaster
13-03-2016, 04:37 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/03/13/02/3223F10000000578-3489742-image-a-2_1457837692173.jpg
This is the part time actor who went to try to get on stage with Trump, Yesterday.

[He has also appeared on 'House of Payne'.
Above he is pictured from a
scene on the show in 2008]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3489742/Man-rushed-stage-Trump-rally-history-protesting-caused-uproar-year-standing-American-flag.html#ixzz42mnR5afx

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/03/13/02/3223908700000578-3489742-image-a-63_1457834796619.jpg

Two more 'shoves' by his daddy and he would have been a Klingon with a face like that. Fecking dingbat.

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 04:56 PM
The ridiculous suggestion that he's "not a bigot" because he's "just saying the first thing that pops into his head", LT.

If the first thing that pops into his head is offensive and bigoted then It's because he is at his very core a ****ing bigot. The thoughts didn't spring out of thin air! They weren't planted there by covert bigot aliens out to trip him up! They are his true uncensored opinions. Bigoted opinions. He hadn't learned to hide them yet, is basically what they are saying, but the fact that they're right there in your face doesn't somehow make them better opinions ffs.


You may think he is a bigot but that just means just that, I dont and neither does the author or millions of others

user104658
13-03-2016, 05:09 PM
You may think he is a bigot but that just means just that, I dont and neither does the author or millions of others
I'm not even specifically talking about what I personally think, just the utterly retarded notion that if you're "only saying the first thing that comes into your head" then you're somehow absolved completely of the content of that statement. Completely illogical nonsense :joker:.

kirklancaster
13-03-2016, 05:09 PM
It's interesting to read that Charles Lister, a fellow at the Middle East Institute, notes that the disputed Trump video contains a long list of elements that a jihadi video would never include, among them countless uncovered women, men in shorts and tank tops, and a man holding arms with a woman.

These Jihadists certainly have highly moral sensibilities.

I wonder who keeps raping the women and children which ISIS keep abducting then, before selling them off as sex-slaves?

DemolitionRed
13-03-2016, 06:09 PM
The worst thing you can call a racist is a racist but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

bots
13-03-2016, 06:12 PM
I don't agree with much of what Trump says, but I do defend his right to say it. This isn't the UK, this is the USA where it is a fundamental right to be able to voice your opinion.

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 06:21 PM
The worst thing you can call a racist is a racist but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

No the worst thing you an do is call someone anything with no evidence to back it up


We have already had one poster make an error with a picture that was badly interpretated and we have not seen them since


:dog:

Ammi
13-03-2016, 06:23 PM
..the thing is..(as I see it anyway..)..is those who are 'hating on him' so aggressively..those at the rallies and speeches I mean, who go along to hate him and hate his supporters are also giving him exactly what he wants as much as those whose fears etc, he's exploiting and who agree with him.../it's all feeding him in the same way, he doesn't care whether it's love or 'hate', so long as he's creating everything he is atm...

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 06:24 PM
I'm not even specifically talking about what I personally think, just the utterly retarded notion that if you're "only saying the first thing that comes into your head" then you're somehow absolved completely of the content of that statement. Completely illogical nonsense :joker:.

you miss the point, its the fact that US politics is so sterile and pc thapolitician human speak raw

In other words the viewers are saying, "no we can work out what he says and we dont need Washington to speak to us like children"


The voters are not daft, but they are welcoming change

bots
13-03-2016, 06:29 PM
..the thing is..(as I see it anyway..)..is those who are 'hating on him' so aggressively..those at the rallies and speeches I mean, who go along to hate him and hate his supporters are also giving him exactly what he wants as much as those whose fears etc, he's exploiting and who agree with him.../it's all feeding him in the same way, he doesn't care whether it's love or 'hate', so long as he's creating everything he is atm...

This is absolutely true. For every 1 hater that behaves in an inappropriate manner it will generate 100 people that support his right of free speech. The best way to deal with trump is to starve him of publicity and force him into the margins by his own behaviour.

Ammi
13-03-2016, 06:42 PM
This is absolutely true. For every 1 hater that behaves in an inappropriate manner it will generate 100 people that support his right of free speech. The best way to deal with trump is to starve him of publicity and force him into the margins by his own behaviour.

...I think that if you 'fight' what you feel is hate and prejudice with more hate and prejudice, all that happens, whether 'well intentioned' or not, is you also become part of what you're fighting against or what you're objecting to.../which is what it seems is happening at his rallies atm, it's all becoming very blurred and it shouldn't be blurred...

DemolitionRed
13-03-2016, 06:58 PM
They didn't need to rush the stage. All they need are stink bombs.

user104658
13-03-2016, 07:04 PM
you miss the point, its the fact that US politics is so sterile and pc thapolitician human speak raw

In other words the viewers are saying, "no we can work out what he says and we dont need Washington to speak to us like children"


The voters are not daft, but they are welcoming change
So so long as he says whatever he is saying in a "real" and "raw" way, it doesn't actually matter WHAT he is saying? People will support him regardless, just for being different? Like a protest vote?

Seems as good a way to elect the most powerful figure in the western world as any, I suppose...

Crimson Dynamo
13-03-2016, 07:32 PM
So so long as he says whatever he is saying in a "real" and "raw" way, it doesn't actually matter WHAT he is saying? People will support him regardless, just for being different? Like a protest vote?

Seems as good a way to elect the most powerful figure in the western world as any, I suppose...

what he says on twitter is not policy, i think folks can distinguish betwixt the two

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
13-03-2016, 07:51 PM
The worst thing you can call a racist is a racist but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

Truth.

http://i.imgur.com/5i0BGZI.gif
http://i.imgur.com/FNNSKVZ.gif


watch?v=E--oLFYs9aI

Kizzy
13-03-2016, 08:10 PM
..the thing is..(as I see it anyway..)..is those who are 'hating on him' so aggressively..those at the rallies and speeches I mean, who go along to hate him and hate his supporters are also giving him exactly what he wants as much as those whose fears etc, he's exploiting and who agree with him.../it's all feeding him in the same way, he doesn't care whether it's love or 'hate', so long as he's creating everything he is atm...

Where did that nonsensical phrase 'hate on' come from? It means nothing.
People go to protest if they feel as a free person they are within their rights ( in the land of the free) to do.
How then is this considered hate?
Are the protesters not anti 'hate'... if the one who is preaching hate is the one giving the rally are you suggesting it's wrong to tell haters you dislike them hating?

user104658
13-03-2016, 09:12 PM
Truth.
http://i.imgur.com/5i0BGZI.gif
http://i.imgur.com/FNNSKVZ.gif


I have actually found myself wondering if the popularity of Trump (or someone else cut from the same cloth) was pretty much inevitable in the wake of the US's first black president. If Hillary gets in next as the first female president, I think it'll be interesting to see if there's similarly a "hyper-masculine" candidate on the rise after she's had her time.

Crimson Dynamo
14-03-2016, 01:40 PM
@realDonaldTrump
#MakeAmericaGreatAgain #Trump2016

New York, NY
DonaldJTrump.com
Joined March 2009

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 19h19 hours ago


The failing @nytimes is truly one of the worst newspapers. They knowingly write lies and never even call to fact check. Really bad people!


:joker:

arista
14-03-2016, 04:03 PM
ithinkiloveyoutoo

Thanks for the Comedy Video SNL
Loved the Bernie Saunders

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
14-03-2016, 06:17 PM
Who’s voting for Trump? According to the New York Times, exactly who you’d think. He’s doing well among whites with no high school diploma (he loves ‘em), voters who deem their ancestry as “American,” mobile home residents, blue-collar workers and those who have voted for candidates who supported racial segregation. But Trump is not a monolith.

http://mic.com/articles/137810/this-survey-shows-just-who-is-feeling-the-need-to-make-america-great-again?utm_source=policymicTBLR&utm_medium=main&utm_campaign=social#.QShWrm63l

http://i.imgur.com/UlsbZSm.jpg

Kizzy
14-03-2016, 09:17 PM
Trump is your Farage :laugh:

Kizzy
15-03-2016, 10:41 AM
Trump upsets anonymous

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/anonymous-optrump-hackers-launch-total-war-on-donald-trump-in-revenge-for-hateful-campaign-a6931696.html

arista
15-03-2016, 11:52 AM
Trump upsets anonymous

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/anonymous-optrump-hackers-launch-total-war-on-donald-trump-in-revenge-for-hateful-campaign-a6931696.html




No they should keep attacking Isis online
not Trump

bots
15-03-2016, 12:04 PM
How Trump deals with protesters :shocked:

rSS1wv-AFM8

Crimson Dynamo
15-03-2016, 12:06 PM
How Trump deals with protesters :shocked:

rSS1wv-AFM8



:joker:

Northern Monkey
15-03-2016, 12:29 PM
How Trump deals with protesters :shocked:

rSS1wv-AFM8
Brilliant.I mean i could'nt see him as president but he's a funny guy.He does tell it how it is.

Kizzy
15-03-2016, 01:06 PM
From the 'Humans of New York'.

An Open Letter to Donald Trump:

Mr. Trump,

I try my hardest not to be political. I’ve refused to interview several of your fellow candidates. I didn’t want to risk any personal goodwill by appearing to take sides in a contentious election. I thought: ‘Maybe the timing is not right.’ But I realize now that there is no correct time to oppose violence and prejudice. The time is always now. Because along with millions of Americans, I’ve come to realize that opposing you is no longer a political decision. It is a moral one.

I’ve watched you retweet racist images. I’ve watched you retweet racist lies. I’ve watched you take 48 hours to disavow white supremacy. I’ve watched you joyfully encourage violence, and promise to ‘pay the legal fees’ of those who commit violence on your behalf. I’ve watched you advocate the use of torture and the murder of terrorists’ families. I’ve watched you gleefully tell stories of executing Muslims with bullets dipped in pig blood. I’ve watched you compare refugees to ‘snakes,’ and claim that ‘Islam hates us.’

I am a journalist, Mr. Trump. And over the last two years I have conducted extensive interviews with hundreds of Muslims, chosen at random, on the streets of Iran, Iraq, and Pakistan. I’ve also interviewed hundreds of Syrian and Iraqi refugees across seven different countries. And I can confirm— the hateful one is you.

Those of us who have been paying attention will not allow you to rebrand yourself. You are not a ‘unifier.’ You are not ‘presidential.’ You are not a ‘victim’ of the very anger that you’ve joyfully enflamed for months. You are a man who has encouraged prejudice and violence in the pursuit of personal power. And though your words will no doubt change over the next few months, you will always remain who you are.

Sincerely,
Brandon Stanton

billy123
15-03-2016, 01:07 PM
Trump upsets anonymous

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/anonymous-optrump-hackers-launch-total-war-on-donald-trump-in-revenge-for-hateful-campaign-a6931696.htmlI hope they really are sitting on the motherload and are just biding their time. That is what some have suggested from his tax habits to the colour of his pointy hood. #OpTrump makes a good read on twitter.

arista
16-03-2016, 12:10 AM
Trump Wins Florida


Sad for Marco
but at least he congratulates Trump Live on all TV News.
Sen. Rubio Suspends Campaign

http://news.sky.com/story/1660569/rubio-drops-out-after-trump-wins-florida

There is no stopping Trump
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdoSuLDUUAAoVVl.jpg


Kaisch wins Ohio - but thats not enough.

GiRTh
16-03-2016, 12:44 AM
Disaster for Marco. Looks like the only way the GOP can stop Trump is at the convention. Who knows what rule changes they'll dream up.

arista
16-03-2016, 12:46 AM
Disaster for Marco. Looks like the only way the GOP can stop Trump is at the convention. Who knows what rule changes they'll dream up.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdoRA-iUsAAxLd5.jpg

GiRTh
16-03-2016, 12:56 AM
Inevitable TBH. He was way out of his depth. Suspended; theoretically 't the campaign is still going if Rubio makes bid at the convention..

I'm waiting to see what the GOP has in store for the convention. There has been talk of a brokered convention for a few weeks now, and if that happens then they can possibly stop Trump on the convention floor. It all sounds very desperate, and it is desperate, but there has been disagreements over the exact convention rules for a few days so a last minute rule change would not be out of the realms of all possibility.

They changed the rules n 2012 to stop Ron Paul. They made it so that only candidates with more than 8 wins could be recognized at the convention; effectively pushing out Ron Paul. Its actually a bit ironic that the same rule may come back to bite them if say they try and push a Miitt Romney or Rubio candidacy forward at the convention.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eoin-higgins/rnc-rules-to-stifle-ron-p_b_8941816.html

An interesting read on how we would get a brokered convention.

http://europe.newsweek.com/trump-kasich-rubio-cruz-convention-cleveland-mcgovern-teddy-kennedy-carter-436601?rm=eu

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 07:48 AM
well done DT another great set of results

Ammi
16-03-2016, 07:51 AM
Inevitable TBH. He was way out of his depth. Suspended; theoretically 't the campaign is still going if Rubio makes bid at the convention..

I'm waiting to see what the GOP has in store for the convention. There has been talk of a brokered convention for a few weeks now, and if that happens then they can possibly stop Trump on the convention floor. It all sounds very desperate, and it is desperate, but there has been disagreements over the exact convention rules for a few days so a last minute rule change would not be out of the realms of all possibility.

They changed the rules n 2012 to stop Ron Paul. They made it so that only candidates with more than 8 wins could be recognized at the convention; effectively pushing out Ron Paul. Its actually a bit ironic that the same rule may come back to bite them if say they try and push a Miitt Romney or Rubio candidacy forward at the convention.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eoin-higgins/rnc-rules-to-stifle-ron-p_b_8941816.html

An interesting read on how we would get a brokered convention.

http://europe.newsweek.com/trump-kasich-rubio-cruz-convention-cleveland-mcgovern-teddy-kennedy-carter-436601?rm=eu


...how much of a reality do you personally think that a brokered convention could be, Girth..?....

GiRTh
16-03-2016, 08:15 AM
...how much of a reality do you personally think that a brokered convention could be, Girth..?....At this stage its got to be the only way the GOP can stop Trump. It would be very desperate and probably comical but its was suggested ages ago and now its being talked about much more.

Johnnyuk123
16-03-2016, 08:23 AM
Well done Donald!:clap1::clap1::clap1:

GiRTh
16-03-2016, 08:24 AM
Another thing, most of the Primaries Trump is winning are winner take all; where as the democrats mostly allocate the delegates according to percentage of vote, most of the GOP primaries are winner take all so Trump is getting all not a percentage of the delegates. He may even have enough delegates before we get to the convention. Then its gets interesting.

Kizzy
16-03-2016, 08:25 AM
Did he get Ohio?

joeysteele
16-03-2016, 08:25 AM
He is not there yet but it is getting harder to see how they can come up with anything that would even look minutely credible to not give him the nomination.

Doesn't bother me if he does get it, he will end up a massive liability to the Republican party in an election campaign in my view and ensure an easier Hilary Clinton win.
I'd be very happy to see that.

Ammi
16-03-2016, 08:27 AM
Another thing, most of the Primaries Trump is winning are winner take all; where as the democrats mostly allocate the delegates according to percentage of vote, most of the GOP primaries are winner take all so Trump is getting all not a percentage of the delegates. He may even have enough delegates before we get to the convention. Then its gets interesting.

..he needs over 1200, is that right../he only has around half of that atm...I guess the convention is where all of the really 'dirty deals' are done, where it all gets messy as it were...

GiRTh
16-03-2016, 08:37 AM
Did he get Ohio?Nah!!!! Kasich's home state, but then again Florida is Rubios home state. :joker:

GiRTh
16-03-2016, 08:38 AM
..he needs over 1200, is that right../he only has around half of that atm...I guess the convention is where all of the really 'dirty deals' are done, where it all gets messy as it were...I think he needs about 1200 to win.

bots
16-03-2016, 08:43 AM
I think he needs about 1200 to win.

Is the conventions purpose not to pick a candidate if there is no outright winner? It would be very undemocratic if they went round the country picking up these votes and then said nah we want someone else :laugh:

GiRTh
16-03-2016, 08:47 AM
Is the conventions purpose not to pick a candidate if there is no outright winner? It would be very undemocratic if they went round the country picking up these votes and then said nah we want someone else :laugh:Very undemocratic but they've done it before. Election 2000 is exhibit A. :joker:

Ammi
16-03-2016, 08:52 AM
..all of these months of 'anti establishment' campaigning and finding out that the 'establishment' can do exactly what they want../there is no anti establishment unless they allow it, ooops../hilarious...:laugh:...

Cherie
16-03-2016, 09:00 AM
..all of these months of 'anti establishment' campaigning and finding out that the 'establishment' can do exactly what they want../there is no anti establishment unless they allow it, ooops../hilarious...:laugh:...

So much for the land of the free and democracy

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 09:01 AM
So much for the land of the free and democracy

its is free and democratic but only you are very rich

Ammi
16-03-2016, 09:17 AM
..Trump goes against everything that is 'the land of the free/equality to all', so ironic really....

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 09:19 AM
..Trump goes against everything that is 'the land of the free/equality to all', so ironic really....

he is anti-establishment and people like that

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 09:20 AM
delete

MTVN
16-03-2016, 09:21 AM
Meh these are internal party issues though, neither of our main parties would ever have a candidate who hadn't had to put in years of political service first before needing the backing of other MPs to even get on the ballot so not sure that's more democratic. A Trump would never even have a chance.

Would be good if Kasich could now mount a serious challenge to Trump but seems unlikely

Cherie
16-03-2016, 09:22 AM
..Trump goes against everything that is 'the land of the free/equality to all', so ironic really....

Its not really the point though I'm not following this so much, its enough for me to try and make a decision on Brexit :fist: and don't know much about any of the candidates policies but if the will of the people is to be ignored why bother asking :laugh:

Kizzy
16-03-2016, 09:23 AM
he is anti-establishment and people like that

He wishes to become the sole established establishment that's why :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 09:42 AM
He wishes to become the sole established establishment that's why :laugh:

:joker:

EspeonBB
16-03-2016, 10:21 AM
So it's looking like Clinton v Trump for the general then?

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
16-03-2016, 10:25 AM
Throwback


http://i.imgur.com/iJbQ1H4.png

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
16-03-2016, 11:21 AM
Supremacy in action, live. A young black muslim with tickets is denied entry and then a white man clearly states he's a protester and also has a ticket and guess what it's all gravy he can go in.

https://www.facebook.com/shaunking/videos/1008579485847636/

bots
16-03-2016, 11:29 AM
Supremacy in action, live. A young black muslim with tickets is denied entry and then a white man clearly states he's a protester and also has a ticket and guess what it's all gravy he can go in.

https://www.facebook.com/shaunking/videos/1008579485847636/

Context is everything, and that clip doesn't give a full context. The security man mentions that the entire group was identified as not being allowed access by the organisers. Was that reason because they were black? We don't know. It could be, it also may not be.

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 11:29 AM
Supremacy in action, live. A young black muslim with tickets is denied entry and then a white man clearly states he's a protester and also has a ticket and guess what it's all gravy he can go in.

https://www.facebook.com/shaunking/videos/1008579485847636/

:clap1:

great news that the disruptive, protesters are now being turned away

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 11:30 AM
Context is everything, and that clip doesn't give a full context. The security man mentions that the entire group was identified as not being allowed access by the organisers. Was that reason because they were black? We don't know. It could be, it also may not be.

facebook evidence


:joker:

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
16-03-2016, 11:40 AM
Context is everything, and that clip doesn't give a full context. The security man mentions that the entire group was identified as not being allowed access by the organisers. Was that reason because they were black? We don't know. It could be, it also may not be.

Not really out of context when the man filming confirmed it. And he was let in

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
16-03-2016, 11:42 AM
:clap1:

great news that the disruptive, protesters are now being turned away

But what about them says they were going to be disruptive? She says you don't even know that I am here to protest and he says it doesn't matter. The white man clearly says he's there to protest and he goes in.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
16-03-2016, 11:43 AM
facebook evidence


:joker:

Yeah would you look at that being able to upload videos on Facebook allows us to now see what media doesn't show. Isn't that something? :joker:

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 11:47 AM
Yeah would you look at that being able to upload videos on Facebook allows us to now see what media doesn't show. Isn't that something? :joker:

no

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 11:49 AM
But what about them says they were going to be disruptive? She says you don't even know that I am here to protest and he says it doesn't matter. The white man clearly says he's there to protest and he goes in.

The law enforcement officer told them they cant go in, he and the organisers knew them to be protesters

job done

go home

DemolitionRed
16-03-2016, 11:52 AM
Why do you think white supremacists love Trump like they do? Could it be that what Trump says, resonates with their own thinking?

Its weird, being on an English forum site where so many ENGLISH guys are getting excited about this clearly racist American candidate.

bots
16-03-2016, 11:52 AM
Not really out of context when the man filming confirmed it. And he was let in

and he had an agenda, that was pretty obvious. Can you not see a setup when its put in front of you?

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
16-03-2016, 11:56 AM
The law enforcement officer told them they cant go in, he and the organisers knew them to be protesters

job done

go home

Where is the proof he knew them to be protesters! Who do you know this? Typing away without proof?

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 11:56 AM
Why do you think white supremacists love Trump like they do? Could it be that what Trump says, resonates with their own thinking?

Its weird, being on an English forum site where so many ENGLISH guys are getting excited about this clearly racist American candidate.

which white supremacists apart from that one in the news who trump disavowed did you have in mind?

MTVN
16-03-2016, 11:56 AM
It does say that they were a 'Black Lives Matter' group so don't think they were there to support Trump, can't make out what the t-shirt says but imagine its a protest slogan.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
16-03-2016, 11:58 AM
and he had an agenda, that was pretty obvious. Can you not see a setup when its put in front of you?

Not really he just held up a camera he didn't write a script for what he was filming. After he said I'm here to protest can I go in? To balance things out officer should have also said to him heck no.

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 12:00 PM
Not really he just held up a camera he didn't write a script for what he was filming. After he said I'm here to protest can I go in? To balance things out officer should have also said to him heck no.

The officer was acting on instructions from the campaign. Its their rally and they do not want it ruined by morons, well done to the campaign

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
16-03-2016, 12:02 PM
It does say that they were a 'Black Lives Matter' group so don't think they were there to support Trump, can't make out what the t-shirt says but imagine its a protest slogan.

That's what we know from reading comments nothing about them suggest they are there to cause disruption. I wonder if public law enforcements can also be used to keep whites out of black events since we're heading towards making segregation the norm again. Some restaurants are already putting pics of early twenties public lunching back up in their restaurants so not long before many more exercise their new freedom that way again.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
16-03-2016, 12:04 PM
The officer was acting on instructions from the campaign. Its their rally and they do not want it ruined by morons, well done to the campaign

Yeah but still there is no proof that they were there to cause disruption. Since Trump insists he has Muslim friends and y'all cum at the Mexicans that support Trump maybe she was one Muslim that was genuinely interested in what he had to say.

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 12:04 PM
That's what we know from reading comments nothing about them suggest they are there to cause disruption. I wonder if public law enforcements can also be used to keep whites out of black events since we're heading towards making segregation the norm again. Some restaurants are already putting pics of early twenties public lunching back up in their restaurants so not long before many more exercise their new freedom that way again.

The guy who tried to storm the stage was white - they just dont want morons ruining their rallies

the skin colour is irrelevant

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
16-03-2016, 12:06 PM
The guy who tried to storm the stage was white - they just dont want morons ruining their rallies

the skin colour is irrelevant

Not in this instance as nothing suggest they were going no to be disruptive.

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 12:07 PM
Not in this instance as nothing suggest they were going no to be disruptive.

sorry but you have zero knowledge of what the campaign officials knew about this group


unless you do its a bit of hysterical a non story

DemolitionRed
16-03-2016, 12:13 PM
which white supremacists apart from that one in the news who trump disavowed did you have in mind?

Try google

bots
16-03-2016, 12:14 PM
In all events, the management reserve the right to refuse admission, for whatever reason they see fit. People can try and pin it as racially motivated, that is their right, but I think its more important what Trump says at his meetings personally. That will ultimately determine if he becomes the next president. It will not be influenced by who he restricts at his conventions.

You only need to look at political conferences in the UK to note that opposing views are not welcome. Its normal

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 12:14 PM
In all events, the management reserve the right to refuse admission, for whatever reason they see fit. People can try and pin it as racially motivated, that is their right, but I think its more important what Trump says at his meetings personally. That will ultimately determine if he becomes the next president. It will not be influenced by who he restricts at his conventions.

You only need to look at political conferences in the UK to note that opposing views are not welcome. Its normal

:clap1:

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 12:15 PM
Try google

i have no time to google

"inaccurate sweeping subjective generalisations"

sorry

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
16-03-2016, 12:19 PM
Why do you think white supremacists love Trump like they do? Could it be that what Trump says, resonates with their own thinking?

Its weird, being on an English forum site where so many ENGLISH guys are getting excited about this clearly racist American candidate.

Agreed.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
16-03-2016, 12:21 PM
In all events, the management reserve the right to refuse admission, for whatever reason they see fit. People can try and pin it as racially motivated, that is their right, but I think its more important what Trump says at his meetings personally. That will ultimately determine if he becomes the next president. It will not be influenced by who he restricts at his conventions.

You only need to look at political conferences in the UK to note that opposing views are not welcome. Its normal

You think it's more important what he says at his rallies? No? Really?!? Because what he's already saying now couldn't possibly be the reason for this rising divide.

bots
16-03-2016, 12:28 PM
You think it's more important what he says at his rallies? No? Really?!? Because what he's already saying now couldn't possibly be the reason for this rising divide.

Of course its more important what he says at his meetings. That's pretty obvious I would have thought. All candidates vet and restrict access to their meetings, as I said, its normal. The only reason Trump is getting attention is because people want to remove his democratic right of free speech. Every time they disrupt one of his meetings, he will gain more support, that's a fact.

If the protesters are not careful, they will end up handing the presidency on a plate to Trump by their own actions.

Crimson Dynamo
16-03-2016, 12:31 PM
You think it's more important what he says at his rallies? No? Really?!? Because what he's already saying now couldn't possibly be the reason for this rising divide.

what rising divide is this?

GiRTh
17-03-2016, 06:24 AM
TzzP7SxMFlk

Riots eh? But where are the leaders?

GiRTh
17-03-2016, 06:25 AM
BZxszNp9LCg

Ammi
17-03-2016, 06:59 AM
TzzP7SxMFlk

Riots eh? But where are the leaders?

..I wonder if that's true, that people who have never voted before are voting just because of Trump, or just what his ego is saying...'I won't lead it but there will be riots', he's just so always inciting of aggression/violence, whilst trying to dismiss any direct part in it himself...


..I haven't got time to watch the other vid on whether a brokered convention is likely but I will watch it after work, thanks for posting Girth..:love:..I'm really finding the American political process so fascinating, something that I hadn't really known much about before but find myself constantly reading up about it now...:laugh:...

DemolitionRed
17-03-2016, 09:27 AM
From an outside position, I'm quite enjoying the turmoil. I love politics in the World arena but when I'm on an English forum where the majority of posts are simply about Trump and his forthcoming election, this is sublimely entertaining.

Northern Monkey
17-03-2016, 02:04 PM
What is a brokered convention?I'm pretty nooby with American politics.

arista
17-03-2016, 02:39 PM
From an outside position, I'm quite enjoying the turmoil. I love politics in the World arena but when I'm on an English forum where the majority of posts are simply about Trump and his forthcoming election, this is sublimely entertaining.


Yes he does look like the winner

He even refused Ted Cruz in a debate
so the one other one dropped out as well.
Ted Cruz is a Creep Mr.Burns type
no one fecking wants him

Trump Vs Clinton woman
is the future

Crimson Dynamo
17-03-2016, 02:52 PM
....

Crimson Dynamo
17-03-2016, 02:56 PM
:hee:

Nicky91
17-03-2016, 03:05 PM
well Trump as a president, the beginning of the end for America :omgno:

arista
17-03-2016, 03:42 PM
well Trump as a president, the beginning of the end for America :omgno:


No
he is Making America great again.


Russia backs Trump (Ref: CNN Live)

Northern Monkey
17-03-2016, 03:48 PM
No
he is Making America great again.


Russia backs Trump (Ref: CNN Live)"Russia backs Trump" is not really a very good advertisement for him is it?Let's hope that if Trump does get in that he is nothing like Putin or he will end up invading Mexico rather than just building a wall in front of it.

arista
17-03-2016, 04:52 PM
"Russia backs Trump" is not really a very good advertisement for him is it?Let's hope that if Trump does get in that he is nothing like Putin or he will end up invading Mexico rather than just building a wall in front of it.


No its not.

But its Killing Isis Forever
Trump and Putin are on One Page.


No he wants the Mexico Wall
to stop the Drugs getting in
and Criminal Mexicans.

Tunnels will be Flooded
so they Die in them.


Say no To Drugs

Vicky.
17-03-2016, 05:43 PM
That's what we know from reading comments nothing about them suggest they are there to cause disruption. I wonder if public law enforcements can also be used to keep whites out of black events since we're heading towards making segregation the norm again. Some restaurants are already putting pics of early twenties public lunching back up in their restaurants so not long before many more exercise their new freedom that way again.

This still happens in Newcastle. Theres a bar that has an upstairs bit that is solely for black people..I **** you not. Bouncers actually stop anyone else going up there :joker:

I have no interest in all of this Trump bollocks tbh, besides wondering when everyone started caring about American politics, and how on earth such an obvious racist has so many fans.. Yet all of these Trump supporters vehemently deny being racist..its baffling really :conf:

Ammi
17-03-2016, 05:43 PM
BZxszNp9LCg

..Cruz says that the voters are rejecting the 'golden children', yet it's looking as though no one will get the required number of delegate seats, so it all seems like a bit of a mess, it's so divided...it's confusing as to how it can be such a mess when the candidates are so different or seem to be...

DemolitionRed
17-03-2016, 10:10 PM
This still happens in Newcastle. Theres a bar that has an upstairs bit that is solely for black people..I **** you not. Bouncers actually stop anyone else going up there :joker:

I have no interest in all of this Trump bollocks tbh, besides wondering when everyone started caring about American politics, and how on earth such an obvious racist has so many fans.. Yet all of these Trump supporters vehemently deny being racist..its baffling really :conf:

That's because they don't consider their own objections towards a race as racist and also because racism is seen to be heinous and they don't want to be seen in that light.

arista
18-03-2016, 05:02 AM
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2016/3/17/453427/default/v1/guardian-1-992x558.jpg

Todays paper
year 2000
Trump President Bid in "the Simpsons"

Northern Monkey
18-03-2016, 06:13 AM
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2016/3/17/453427/default/v1/guardian-1-992x558.jpg

Todays paper
year 2000
Trump President Bid in "the Simpsons"
I saw this on Youtube last night.The Simpsons apparently predicted quite a few things back in the nineties.

Northern Monkey
18-03-2016, 06:19 AM
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a640/eyeball96/Mobile%20Uploads/23DFCE92-B46C-4DBA-B829-39076FCEBEC1_zpsq0brbjqr.jpg (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/eyeball96/media/Mobile%20Uploads/23DFCE92-B46C-4DBA-B829-39076FCEBEC1_zpsq0brbjqr.jpg.html)

Spooky

Ammi
18-03-2016, 06:59 AM
This still happens in Newcastle. Theres a bar that has an upstairs bit that is solely for black people..I **** you not. Bouncers actually stop anyone else going up there :joker:

I have no interest in all of this Trump bollocks tbh, besides wondering when everyone started caring about American politics, and how on earth such an obvious racist has so many fans.. Yet all of these Trump supporters vehemently deny being racist..its baffling really :conf:

..I think that's it though Vicky, part of the fascination because it seems so baffling..I don't know about in America in general, how much Americans themselves are baffled by the 'rise of Trump' but I'm not sure that many people even really took him seriously in the beginning and yet there he is and seeming quite 'un-stoppable'....it's funny because he's been likened to Hitler so many times, you can barely look up an image of him without seeing that association, him alongside Hitler in some kind of meme, type thing....and it's the likening of an 'ideal' in a way that Hitler had people believing in as well before he became what he became/what we now know in hindsight that he became but what people obviously didn't all see at the time in his 'rise'....obviously that was 'back in the day' so we could maybe look at that as a factor but here we are in 2016 and seeing something which is being deemed as similar/how can that happen..?...whatever we think of Trump personally, he's someone (I believe..)...who our children and our children's children etc will be discussing in their history lessons in time to come....

..I think it's too simplistic as well to feel that all Trump supporters are just inherently racist in the same way as we know (in hindsight..)...that supporters of Hitler's 'ideal' weren't either in his rise, they just didn't have that hindsight thing, many of his supporters were very much 'non-Hitler' once the realisation of who he actually was..it's funny because one of the news reporters in a vid I watched recently in talking about Trump possibly being un-stoppable said that, it would mean many people voting for someone else who they didn't necessarily support to make a vote against Trump, rather than a vote for someone else because they believed in them...(a bit like some of the Big Brother voting..:laugh:..)...and how hard that sort of voting would be to hope for..and yet it seems to me that a big part of Trump's success has been exactly that, people voting against an 'American politics establishment' that they aren't believing in anymore, rather than actually voting for him..that seems to be a part of it as well....


...anyways for me personally, I can't not be interested in all of this 'Trumpism' because it's real, it's happening in 2016 and I'm witnessing it and if I ever do have grandchildren and they ask why/how/what the heck..I want to be able to answer their questions with as much understanding and knowledge as I possibly can, rather than...oh, I didn't take much notice because he was a prejudiced idiot...(..one who may actually become one of the most powerful people in the world../Jesus H ..)....

DemolitionRed
18-03-2016, 09:36 AM
Here what two college guys who sneaked in to one of Trumps rally's because they thought it would be entertaining but actually ended up very disturbed by the crowds reaction to Trumps words.....

"Trump basically said the same few things the whole time. He knows exactly what will get a cheer from the crowd and he says it. He mentioned his wall several times. About five or six if I can remember correctly. At one point he said ‘We’re going to build a wall. And who’s going to pay for it?’ And the crowd yelled, ‘Mexico!’ and then they lost their minds.

“Now, we all know exactly why this is stupid. So I won’t elaborate. It was just very unsettling. He mentioned ISIS several times. About ten. But not exactly how to stop ISIS. Just comments like, ‘We’re gonna get ISIS’, and ‘ISIS is going down’. Blanket statements.

“He did say that for America to win again (any sort of winning, not just against ISIS) we have to go outside of the law and he isn’t afraid to do it. And that’s unsettling for several reasons…And that was all he said on policy. Completely void of content or substance. Just statements that would get the crowd cheering.”

It’s been long-said that Donald Trump supporters have no clue about his political stance. When you ask Donald’s followers why they choose him, the majority of the answers sound like:

“He tells it like it is.” (How is it, exactly?)
“He’s going to get this country back the way it needs to be.” (As opposed to what?)
“He’s going to make this country great again.” (What is “great”?)
“Donald Trump is what this country needs.” (For whom?)

You get the picture. These are real answers from a surprisingly large percentage of Donald Trump’s supporters.


Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/2882204/donald-trump-rally-experience-from-white-guy/#VVsU2JV44Jy8BRQv.99

MTVN
18-03-2016, 09:42 AM
Sounds like a fairly typical rally tbh. They're not supposed to be places for serious debate about policy and you're not trying to convince the people who are there because they already support your campaign, you're just trying to pump them up and give them something to cheer about

Crimson Dynamo
18-03-2016, 09:50 AM
Here what two college guys who sneaked in to one of Trumps rally's because they thought it would be entertaining but actually ended up very disturbed by the crowds reaction to Trumps words.....

"Trump basically said the same few things the whole time. He knows exactly what will get a cheer from the crowd and he says it. He mentioned his wall several times. About five or six if I can remember correctly. At one point he said ‘We’re going to build a wall. And who’s going to pay for it?’ And the crowd yelled, ‘Mexico!’ and then they lost their minds.

“Now, we all know exactly why this is stupid. So I won’t elaborate. It was just very unsettling. He mentioned ISIS several times. About ten. But not exactly how to stop ISIS. Just comments like, ‘We’re gonna get ISIS’, and ‘ISIS is going down’. Blanket statements.

“He did say that for America to win again (any sort of winning, not just against ISIS) we have to go outside of the law and he isn’t afraid to do it. And that’s unsettling for several reasons…And that was all he said on policy. Completely void of content or substance. Just statements that would get the crowd cheering.”

It’s been long-said that Donald Trump supporters have no clue about his political stance. When you ask Donald’s followers why they choose him, the majority of the answers sound like:

“He tells it like it is.” (How is it, exactly?)
“He’s going to get this country back the way it needs to be.” (As opposed to what?)
“He’s going to make this country great again.” (What is “great”?)
“Donald Trump is what this country needs.” (For whom?)

You get the picture. These are real answers from a surprisingly large percentage of Donald Trump’s supporters.


Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/2882204/donald-trump-rally-experience-from-white-guy/#VVsU2JV44Jy8BRQv.99



Did they expect him to talk about policy? :umm2:

all the above is is some guff from youngsters who dont understand politics

DemolitionRed
18-03-2016, 09:53 AM
...anyways for me personally, I can't not be interested in all of this 'Trumpism' because it's real, it's happening in 2016 and I'm witnessing it and if I ever do have grandchildren and they ask why/how/what the heck..I want to be able to answer their questions with as much understanding and knowledge as I possibly can, rather than...oh, I didn't take much notice because he was a prejudiced idiot...(..one who may actually become one of the most powerful people in the world../Jesus H ..)....

Knowledge is good but being overly focused on something is not necessarily the same as being knowledgeable about it.

DemolitionRed
18-03-2016, 09:59 AM
Did they expect him to talk about policy? :umm2:

all the above is is some guff from youngsters who dont understand politics

No, it was about what it feels like to be in a Trump rally if you are not a "real" trump supporter.

You're presuming they don't understand politics. I could say you don't understand politics but that would merely be me being presumptios wouldn't it?

DemolitionRed
18-03-2016, 10:01 AM
Did they expect him to talk about policy? :umm2:

all the above is is some guff from youngsters who dont understand politics

Feck yes! I've been to a few political rallies in my time and that's what they are generally about.

Crimson Dynamo
18-03-2016, 10:03 AM
Feck yes! I've been to a few political rallies in my time and that's what they are generally about.

:joker:

it would be political suicide if any of the candidates talked about specific policy at this stage

DemolitionRed
18-03-2016, 10:05 AM
You may well laugh but that's exactly what the others are doing.

DemolitionRed
18-03-2016, 10:07 AM
Trump is like Billy Graham. If you can get enough people in a football stadium and repeatedly chant stuff about God, you're guaranteed some new baptisms before the nights out.

DemolitionRed
18-03-2016, 10:08 AM
Many of us enjoyed laughing at Trump, we enjoyed watching America the butt of jokes across the world, but now its more serious, he's a right wing bigot whose making his career out of inciting racial hatred and something similar to the civil rights movements is breaking out wherever he goes, good luck to them, good luck to the brave people who stand up against them faced with a wall of aggressive police and pepper spray.

Crimson Dynamo
18-03-2016, 10:12 AM
Many of us enjoyed laughing at Trump, we enjoyed watching America the butt of jokes across the world, but now its more serious, he's a right wing bigot whose making his career out of inciting racial hatred and something similar to the civil rights movements is breaking out wherever he goes, good luck to them, good luck to the brave people who stand up against them faced with a wall of aggressive police and pepper spray.

what racial hatred?

DemolitionRed
18-03-2016, 10:14 AM
what racial hatred?

Don't even go there LeatherTrumpet or are you trying to get me banned from this site. :fist:

Crimson Dynamo
18-03-2016, 10:25 AM
Don't even go there LeatherTrumpet or are you trying to get me banned from this site. :fist:

no you are making wild accusations and i am asking for clarification?

Kizzy
18-03-2016, 10:26 AM
what racial hatred?

Yes racial hatred, that's one of his policies.

Crimson Dynamo
18-03-2016, 10:31 AM
Yes racial hatred, that's one of his policies.

rubbish, evidence please

Johnnyuk123
18-03-2016, 12:29 PM
Knowledge is good but being overly focused on something is not necessarily the same as being knowledgeable about it.

You mean like when posters focus on one thing over and over again eg trump is a racist nazi whatever etc like you have posted in here many many many times now. So much so that the point you are trying to make is lost. It just comes across as sour grapes because your in a very small minority who look upon this and other post always in a negative way. Yet you continue to present false claims as truth and when pulled up on it by others you simply say there is no point in debating with you because your mind is set when the actual truth of it all is that it is you who have a blinkered and narrow mindset.:nono:

Niamh.
18-03-2016, 12:34 PM
Seriously can you all not discuss the topic at hand with getting personal with eachother?

DemolitionRed
18-03-2016, 01:10 PM
I don't think any racists sit around saying "I'm a racist". In fact most think they are good people with strong beliefs that only differ from the strong beliefs of others. Hell, even KKK members don't call themselves racists.

So what is Trumps message to the lowest common denominator?

“We’ll Make America GREAT again”
“immigrations is bad”
“We are going to work for the good people of America”
“Mexicans and Muslims are bad”
“I’m the guy who says it like it is”
“we are going to build a wall across Mexico”
“Lets Make America GREAT again"

The part I pay attention to is not whether or not Trump says or admits that he is a racist because to me, Trump is just a man who does a magnificent job of managing the people who are susceptible to his messages. He’s got the knack in putting human subjects into stereotyped objects which makes Trump a magnet to the supremacist majority.

DemolitionRed
18-03-2016, 01:28 PM
You mean like when posters focus on one thing over and over again eg trump is a racist nazi whatever etc like you have posted in here many many many times now. So much so that the point you are trying to make is lost. It just comes across as sour grapes because your in a very small minority who look upon this and other post always in a negative way. Yet you continue to present false claims as truth and when pulled up on it by others you simply say there is no point in debating with you because your mind is set when the actual truth of it all is that it is you who have a blinkered and narrow mindset.:nono:

Well you know what Johnny, go on any serious debate forum and you are going to find exactly the same as you are here, except other groups tend to get a lot more heated simply because they are allowed to.

My point is lost on YOU just as your point is lost on ME. I accepted that some time ago. What I do know or should I say, what comforts me and lets me sleep at night is, I know the majority of Brits don't think like you do. Whilst I'm in the small minority on here, I'm not fooled by the regular half dozen or so who write on this forum but perhaps my world is bigger than yours

I'm sorry if my mindset offends you. I was raised to look at the world through the eyes of the poor and oppressed, even though I am aware that my own circumstances are far more fortunate than theirs. If that makes me a tediously monotonous person, I can happily live with that.

Crimson Dynamo
18-03-2016, 01:38 PM
I don't think any racists sit around saying "I'm a racist". In fact most think they are good people with strong beliefs that only differ from the strong beliefs of others. Hell, even KKK members don't call themselves racists.

So what is Trumps message to the lowest common denominator?

“We’ll Make America GREAT again”
“immigrations is bad”
“We are going to work for the good people of America”
“Mexicans and Muslims are bad”
“I’m the guy who says it like it is”
“we are going to build a wall across Mexico”
“Lets Make America GREAT again"

The part I pay attention to is not whether or not Trump says or admits that he is a racist because to me, Trump is just a man who does a magnificent job of managing the people who are susceptible to his messages. He’s got the knack in putting human subjects into stereotyped objects which makes Trump a magnet to the supremacist majority.

You dont need to use parenthesis when its yourself you are quoting


:facepalm:

Tom4784
18-03-2016, 01:49 PM
You dont need to use parenthesis when its yourself you are quoting


:facepalm:

Focusing on the grammar because you can't argue with the content of the post?

Crimson Dynamo
18-03-2016, 02:06 PM
Focusing on the grammar because you can't argue with the content of the post?

No, i cantt comment on Reds own made up quotes now can it?


"I am not a racist and have never been racist and everyone knows this, those that dont are wrong"


feel free to comment on the above Trump quote


and its not grammar its attribution

Tom4784
18-03-2016, 02:17 PM
No, i cantt comment on Reds own made up quotes now can it?


"I am not a racist and have never been racist and everyone knows this, those that dont are wrong"


feel free to comment on the above Trump quote


and its not grammar its attribution

It's not attribution, it's avoidance on your part.

Kizzy
18-03-2016, 04:20 PM
rubbish, evidence please

The wall LT, the wall is the evidence.

Ammi
18-03-2016, 04:23 PM
Knowledge is good but being overly focused on something is not necessarily the same as being knowledgeable about it.

..with all respect DR, you have no idea what my focuses are on anything whatsover, so I'm not sure in your purpose at making this comment directly to me was...and I'll also say that your post count for this thread discussing Donald Trump is the second highest and showing far higher posts than I or many other members have made in this discussion...

EspeonBB
18-03-2016, 04:43 PM
Trump vs. Clinton is going to be such a messy election.

I hope the American people see sense and vote for Hillary, because despite her faults, she'll make a much better president than Donald Trump

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
18-03-2016, 05:03 PM
This still happens in Newcastle. Theres a bar that has an upstairs bit that is solely for black people..I **** you not. Bouncers actually stop anyone else going up there :joker:



Not surprised after that news report that bouncers were refusing black people based on shade of light to dark. It is a prominent thing. Black people are retaliating. Sad times for all.

DemolitionRed
18-03-2016, 05:07 PM
..with all respect DR, you have no idea what my focuses are on anything whatsover, so I'm not sure in your purpose at making this comment directly to me was...and I'll also say that your post count for this thread discussing Donald Trump is the second highest and showing far higher posts than I or many other members have made in this discussion...


Well for a start it wasn't personal but you clearly read it as such.

Healthy interest is good, unhealthy interest is troubling, maybe not to you but it is to me. I'll be telling my grandchildren about the American Republican candidate who built up a frenzy of both hate and love across America by saying he was going to build a wall, ban all Muslims, carpet bomb ISIS, kill the family members and so on. I won't be telling them about all his other policies because those policies are no different to the rest of that motley crew. The only thing interesting and the only thing that bares any interest to foreigners not living in the U.S. is his proposed solutions on immigrants.

Yes I do comment on here because just like some of the others here, I'm saddened and hugely disappointed by some of the comments I've seen and as long as I have breath in my body to stand up against something I see as unfair and unjust, I'll be doing just that.

You want to cloak your judgements so you don't upset certain people...fine. I'm not prepared to do that.

Crimson Dynamo
18-03-2016, 05:07 PM
The wall LT, the wall is the evidence.

trying to solve the massive problem of illegal immigrants on that border is not bloody racism

Crimson Dynamo
18-03-2016, 05:13 PM
Trump vs. Clinton is going to be such a messy election.

I hope the American people see sense and vote for Hillary, because despite her faults, she'll make a much better president than Donald Trump

why do you think that?

Ammi
18-03-2016, 05:20 PM
Well for a start it wasn't personal but you clearly read it as such.

Healthy interest is good, unhealthy interest is troubling, maybe not to you but it is to me. I'll be telling my grandchildren about the American Republican candidate who built up a frenzy of both hate and love across America by saying he was going to build a wall, ban all Muslims, carpet bomb ISIS, kill the family members and so on. I won't be telling them about all his other policies because those policies are no different to the rest of that motley crew. The only thing interesting and the only thing that bares any interest to foreigners not living in the U.S. is his proposed solutions on immigrants.

Yes I do comment on here because just like some of the others here, I'm saddened and hugely disappointed by some of the comments I've seen and as long as I have breath in my body to stand up against something I see as unfair and unjust, I'll be doing just that.

You want to cloak your judgements so you don't upset certain people...fine. I'm not prepared to do that.


..when part of my post was quoted specifically then your response was directed personally to me and no one else, so it was very much personal with intention..as for the rest of your post I have no comment because what you tell your grandchildren is entirely up to you...I don't 'cloak' anything because I have nothing to 'cloak' and have no judgements of anyone posting in this thread, you obviously do, which is also entirely up to you....

DemolitionRed
18-03-2016, 05:39 PM
..when part of my post was quoted specifically then your response was directed personally to me and no one else, so it was very much personal with intention..as for the rest of your post I have no comment because what you tell your grandchildren is entirely up to you...I don't 'cloak' anything because I have nothing to 'cloak' and have no judgements of anyone posting in this thread, you obviously do, which is also entirely up to you....

FFS, my response was to what you said, especially the bit at the end of that post which reflected something I'd previously said. Get over it love because frankly I don't give a ****.

Ammi
18-03-2016, 05:46 PM
..oh dear...

user104658
18-03-2016, 05:48 PM
STOP FIGHTING YOU'RE UPSETTING THE CHILDREN!!! Wwwweeeeehhhh.

Crimson Dynamo
18-03-2016, 05:52 PM
Lets make Tibb Great again?

arista
18-03-2016, 06:05 PM
I saw this on Youtube last night.The Simpsons apparently predicted quite a few things back in the nineties.



Yes NR
please post the Year
2000 Trump /Simpsons youtube episode for us all
such great writers

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2016/3/17/453427/default/v1/guardian-1-992x558.jpg
todays paper again

DemolitionRed
18-03-2016, 06:09 PM
STOP FIGHTING YOU'RE UPSETTING THE CHILDREN!!! Wwwweeeeehhhh.
I've stopped. I just used the ignore button because I can't be arsed :hee:

Johnnyuk123
18-03-2016, 07:46 PM
Lets make Tibb Great again?

Thats a great title for a song LT! Thanks!:dance:

GiRTh
18-03-2016, 10:57 PM
..Cruz says that the voters are rejecting the 'golden children', yet it's looking as though no one will get the required number of delegate seats, so it all seems like a bit of a mess, it's so divided...it's confusing as to how it can be such a mess when the candidates are so different or seem to be...
I agree. And its hard to see how the GOP establishment can get behind one candidate when the party is so fragmented. Well, they caused this problem so now they have to deal with it. Maybe a Hillary win is not too bad for everyone.

Ammi
19-03-2016, 06:17 AM
I agree. And its hard to see how the GOP establishment can get behind one candidate when the party is so fragmented. Well, they caused this problem so now they have to deal with it. Maybe a Hillary win is not too bad for everyone.

..yeah that's what I was thinking as well Girth, a Hilary win...it'll still feel a bit like the political reporter said though...voting against, rather than voting for, which seems so weird to me ..if she does win and if she did make it to the White House, although it would be good to have the first female President..I don't really know that I like her that much/I just don't get a great feeling from her as a world leader...obviously she's the much better option than Trump but then everyone is the much better option than Trump, so it's not really that much of an attribute to her..:laugh:...

bots
19-03-2016, 06:46 AM
Politics is moving to the extremes across the globe. None of the candidates for American president are fit for office. It amazes me that they can still sit on their high and mighty seat and say they are a democracy, nothing could be further from the truth. They have the cheek to butt in and criticize other countries when their own system is a joke. Its laughable.

I will make one prediction here and now. If Trump does become president, someone will assassinate him within 6 months. It will not end well.

arista
19-03-2016, 01:53 PM
Graphologist Elaine Quigley
was live on Ch5HD Sat. show
this morning.

her site
http://www.elainequigley.co.uk/

They gave her a card
with words in capitals
written by Trump


She said it was not a nice person!

Then they told her it was Trump
she added he Signature is like
Barbed Wire in Blood.


This Older Lady knows her stuff
we need her on every Live show.



Sign Of The Times

arista
19-03-2016, 02:00 PM
Politics is moving to the extremes across the globe. None of the candidates for American president are fit for office. It amazes me that they can still sit on their high and mighty seat and say they are a democracy, nothing could be further from the truth. They have the cheek to butt in and criticize other countries when their own system is a joke. Its laughable.

I will make one prediction here and now. If Trump does become president, someone will assassinate him within 6 months. It will not end well.


No he will start wearing Body Proof jackets
that will stop bullets.

http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-kgpgw/products/117/images/317/NewTacticalVestpuppeted.2__87089.1441835461.500.75 0.jpg?c=2



If he becomes President?
It will make a nice change, I say.

Crimson Dynamo
19-03-2016, 02:19 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd4n5W-VIAIyVCa.jpg

Crimson Dynamo
19-03-2016, 02:22 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd1vgt-W8AAPU-h.jpg

:vomit:

bots
19-03-2016, 02:27 PM
No he will start wearing Body Proof jackets
that will stop bullets.


that wont protect him from a bomb or a bullet to the head or poison. No-one is beyond being assassinated.

Tom4784
19-03-2016, 07:35 PM
Fox News has defended its anchor Megyn Kelly as she faced more abuse from Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.

The network called Trump "deplorable" for continuing to abuse Kelly when she's just doing her job.​

The statement from Fox News reads: "Donald Trump's vitriolic attacks against Megyn Kelly and his extreme, sick obsession with her is beneath the dignity of a presidential candidate who wants to occupy the highest office in the land.

"Megyn is an exemplary journalist and one of the leading anchors in America - we're extremely proud of her phenomenal work and continue to fully support her throughout every day of Trump's endless barrage of crude and sexist verbal assaults.

"As the mother of three young children, with a successful law career and the second-highest-rated show in cable news, it's especially deplorable for her to be repeatedly abused just for doing her job."​

It follows Trump tweeting yesterday, urging viewers to boycott her programme:


The presidential candidate's campaign replied with a statement describing Kelly as ​"a highly overrated reporter and anchor that constantly disparages Mr Trump with negative and inaccurate reports".

"Despite the fact he wants nothing to do with her and will not appear on her show due to her extremely biased reporting, much of the program is about him anyway on a nightly basis.

"In fact, Fox News has begged Mr. Trump to do a primetime special to be broadcast on the Fox Network, not cable, with Megyn Kelly. He has turned them down. Likewise, they recently called for an unsolicited and unplanned debate with Kelly as a featured moderator. He turned them down and they immediately canceled. "

Then followed a back-and-forth between the broadcaster and Trump's campaign about whether he had been requested to be a guest on Kelly's show.​

It follows news earlier this week that ​Scandal​ is planning to introduce a 'Trump-like' character as a candidate running for the presidency.

Not surprising considering he sent pictures of his fingers to someone that made a comment about them for over 20 years.

He's an overgrown child with a sociopathic sense of pettiness.

Northern Monkey
19-03-2016, 09:53 PM
And Fox News is probably worried about their ratings if everyone starts boycotting them.Trump has alot of supporters that would make a huge impact on ratings.