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arista
02-03-2016, 07:15 PM
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2016/3/2/450285/default/v1/cegrab-20160302-025258-319-1-736x414.jpg
[Steamrolling to a string of Super Tuesday
victories, Republican presidential
front runner Donald Trump has
vowed to beat Hillary Clinton
in November's election.
The real estate billionaire took
a stride towards his party's
White House nomination with
seven victories after votes
in 12 US states.
Mr Trump swept Alabama,
Georgia,
Massachusetts and Tennessee,
and claimed narrower wins in Virginia,
Arkansas and Vermont.]
http://news.sky.com/story/1651679/trump-celebrates-sweeping-super-tuesday-wins
Rock On President Trump.
I'm hearing reports that Ben Carson has dropped out.
arista
02-03-2016, 07:40 PM
I'm hearing reports that Ben Carson has dropped out.
No he is still going
Ref: FoxNewsHD
When people start styling their cats Trump style, you know he is going to win .....
http://i.imgur.com/zJbAEYV.jpg
Kizzy
02-03-2016, 08:04 PM
I would actually vote for that cat over him.
empire
03-03-2016, 02:33 AM
he has a bigger chance in being the next us president than ted cruz has, americans are fed up with pointless wars, and money being thrown to the miltary, when food stamps are being cut, hillary clinton will not be the next president, her obsessed thinking in attacking russia and putin, is just another G bush, but in the left wing party, america can't afford to have another cold war, hillary's foreign policy is a disaster, could anyone trust her after what had happened in benghazi,
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
03-03-2016, 02:57 AM
he has a bigger chance in being the next us president than ted cruz has, americans are fed up with pointless wars, and money being thrown to the miltary, when food stamps are being cut, hillary clinton will not be the next president, her obsessed thinking in attacking russia and putin, is just another G bush, but in the left wing party, america can't afford to have another cold war, hillary's foreign policy is a disaster, could anyone trust her after what had happened in benghazi,
You're nuts if you think that's what they care most about. They care about him saying he'll built a border to stop Mexicans crossing over and stop Muslims. He's such a c8nt and all the racist bastards in America are rearing their ugly heads. Like someone said " why don't we all go back to where we came from and see who's left you entitled bastard" and the latest episode of him acting like he doesn't know David Duke a former Kkk leader uh! US is fooked for non whites.
Hilary sucks too. I was for Bernie. Either of these two will make America go backwards.
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
03-03-2016, 02:57 AM
I'm hearing reports that Ben Carson has dropped out.
He was a disgrace black people are happy. He was an Uncle Tom.
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
03-03-2016, 04:02 AM
http://i.imgur.com/jqje9nT.jpg
Look at these dumb rednecks.
lostalex
03-03-2016, 05:03 AM
http://i.imgur.com/jqje9nT.jpg
Look at these dumb rednecks.
I've seen the same mob mentality from the Bernie Sanders supporters.
iRyan
03-03-2016, 06:06 AM
I've seen the same mob mentality from the Bernie Sanders supporters.
Er, except Bernie supporters aren't racist :conf:
DemolitionRed
03-03-2016, 07:04 AM
Ithinkiloveyoutoo I'm totally with you on this.
The thing that worries me is, I've never seen so many British people so excited about American politics or should I say, Trump and whilst they claim its not about his racist views (yeah right) I remind them that the only reason our news channels have been so busy with Trump news is because of his racist views.
People will come back with, "well he's good for this and he's good for that" but why should we give a flying **** what's good for the American economy? truth is, we don't. The Trump support from this end is more sickening than the Trump support from the American people.
I'm looking on at Trump's progress with a kind of morbid curiosity. America calls itself a democracy, yet the best candidates it can come up with have been the current lot on display ... its a mockery of democracy.
Trump is a clear and obvious idiot, yet people are supporting and voting for him, not only that, he is being supported by ethnic minorities too ... how does that happen? When people have next to no choice, they do things for the hell of it, and I think what we are seeing is a symptom of that position. There is only one word for it - crazy
Nicky91
03-03-2016, 08:40 AM
well i don't know why, but i like Trump for president, at least some sense of humour
:)
DemolitionRed
03-03-2016, 08:40 AM
I'm looking on at Trump's progress with a kind of morbid curiosity. America calls itself a democracy, yet the best candidates it can come up with have been the current lot on display ... its a mockery of democracy.
Trump is a clear and obvious idiot, yet people are supporting and voting for him, not only that, he is being supported by ethnic minorities too ... how does that happen? When people have next to no choice, they do things for the hell of it, and I think what we are seeing is a symptom of that position. There is only one word for it - crazy
The most racist woman I've ever had the misfortune of working with was a Pakistani woman. When I say racist, I mean against her own people and the ones trying to get residency in Britain. Her venom used to leave us all dumbfounded but if anyone called her a racist she'd laugh and say, "how can I be racist, I'm Pakistani" :hehe:
Having known her gives me some understanding of why some ethnic minorities will be voting for Trump.
DemolitionRed
03-03-2016, 08:42 AM
well i don't know why, but i like Trump for president, at least some sense of humour
:)
Sense of humour doesn't run a country. That's like saying, David Cameron is good for Britain because he's got a nice smile.
arista
03-03-2016, 10:24 AM
I'm hearing reports that Ben Carson has dropped out.
There is another Live Debate tonight
Ben has dropped out of this one
so they can fight it out
Its wrong to not go,
because
he is showing he does not like a fight
He says he is still in the race
Johnnyuk123
03-03-2016, 12:06 PM
Congratulations Donald. Well done Sir! :clap1::clap1::clap1:
Nicky91
03-03-2016, 12:25 PM
Sense of humour doesn't run a country. That's like saying, David Cameron is good for Britain because he's got a nice smile.
but he also has a good vision on america :)
so congratulations Donald with another victory :clap1:
Crimson Dynamo
03-03-2016, 12:37 PM
http://i.imgur.com/jqje9nT.jpg
Look at these dumb rednecks.
taking twitter evidence and static pic evidence from Twitter? :joker:
are you serious?
|She was a protestor at a rally with provocative signs and being rude and dispuptive and was aksed to leave and then she was frogmarched out
To try and equate this with 60s racism is franky ridiculous
:facepalm:
Tom4784
03-03-2016, 01:14 PM
He's the american Hitler with a bad hairpiece.
arista
03-03-2016, 01:21 PM
He's the american Hitler with a bad hairpiece.
No Way
he is not going to Kill Millions of Jews.
He is better than Corrupt Clinton Bitch
Tom4784
03-03-2016, 01:25 PM
No Way
he is not going to Kill Millions of Jews.
He is better than Corrupt Clinton Bitch
Nobody thought that Hitler was going to be a threat before WW2.
Anybody that can honestly look at Trump and think he's a good candidate is an ignorant fool that's unaware of history.
Crimson Dynamo
03-03-2016, 01:43 PM
Trump=Hitler
:laugh2:
billy123
03-03-2016, 01:46 PM
This made me giggle.
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BBfanUSA
03-03-2016, 01:47 PM
I'm annoyed at this point but not worried.
if he does get elected, he'll be impeached within a couple years probably because even republicans, like Speaker of the House/Republican Senate Leader, Paul Ryan, is pleading with voters to not vote for Trump. Because they know he's not sane. Could be why Chris Christe decided to endorse him, so he could get to be VP.
I fear that if Trump does get impeached, that it would cause an uproar here and if it causes a civil war, I'm probably declaring refugee status in Canada or another english speaking country until a group dedicated to keeping the peace has a decent footing in America.
Crimson Dynamo
03-03-2016, 01:48 PM
I'm annoyed at this point but not worried.
if he does get elected, he'll be impeached within a couple years probably because even republicans, like Speaker of the House/Republican Senate Leader, Paul Ryan, is pleading with voters to not vote for Trump. Because they know he's not sane. Could be why Chris Christe decided to endorse him, so he could get to be VP.
I fear that if Trump does get impeached, that it would cause an uproar here and if it causes a civil war, I'm probably declaring refugee status in Canada or another english speaking country until a group dedicated to keeping the peace has a decent footing in America.
I would start to stickpile goods now and get some guns and ammo pronto
Tom4784
03-03-2016, 01:59 PM
Trump=Hitler
:laugh2:
Pray tell, what's the difference between wanting Muslims to carry ID cards so they can be identified as Muslims and Jews in Nazi Germany being made to wear Stars of David on their clothes?
What's the difference between Trump villainising immigrants and muslims as the root of America's problems when Hitler did the same in his rise to power?
Trump is a man who once said that we must target the families of terrorists, this is a man who endorses war crimes. This is a man who won't deny support from KKK leaders, this is a man who, when his supporters attack people, he waves it off as them being 'passionate.' Trump is a man who refused to condemn the idea of Internment camps.
Trump is the ****ing devil and champion of bigots.
Crimson Dynamo
03-03-2016, 02:05 PM
Pray tell, what's the difference between wanting Muslims to carry ID cards so they can be identified as Muslims and Jews in Nazi Germany being made to wear Stars of David on their clothes?
What's the difference between Trump villainising immigrants and muslims as the root of America's problems when Hitler did the same in his rise to power?
Trump is a man who once said that we must target the families of terrorists, this is a man who endorses war crimes. This is a man who won't deny support from KKK leaders, this is a man who, when his supporters attack people, he waves it off as them being 'passionate.' Trump is a man who refused to condemn the idea of Internment camps.
Trump is the ****ing devil and champion of bigots.
When trump found out who the guy was he disavowed him but he is wise to scummy reporters trying to trip him up with questions when he was there to talk about other stuff
dont just accept media stuff at face value
as for your Hitler stuff, just no :rolleyes:
Tom4784
03-03-2016, 02:13 PM
When trump found out who the guy was he disavowed him but he is wise to scummy reporters trying to trip him up with questions when he was there to talk about other stuff
dont just accept media stuff at face value
as for your Hitler stuff, just no :rolleyes:
'Just no'
Such an excellent counter argument.
We should remember the past so that we aren't doomed to repeat it, trump embodies Nazi sentiments, there's no denying the similarities. You refuse to acknowledge it just because Trump represents what you believe and you can't see the forest for the trees because of it. People like you are the reason why History is doomed to repeat itself.
Crimson Dynamo
03-03-2016, 02:15 PM
'Just no'
Such an excellent counter argument.
There are some things that dont need arguing becuase the ludicrosity of the counter rather takes care of its self...:smug:
Brother Leon
03-03-2016, 02:15 PM
Trump Vs Clinton.... ****ing America lol
Tom4784
03-03-2016, 02:17 PM
There are some things that dont need arguing becuase the ludicrosity of the counter rather takes care of its self...:smug:
Or, you refuse to answer because you'd have to admit to supporting a godamn Nazi because you can't argue with my points.
Crimson Dynamo
03-03-2016, 02:18 PM
Or, you refuse to answer because you'd have to admit to supporting a godamn Nazi because you can't argue with my points.
No really its the first one
Pulling out Hitler really is a bad start dezzy, lets face facts
Tom4784
03-03-2016, 02:31 PM
No really its the first one
Pulling out Hitler really is a bad start dezzy, lets face facts
I've pulled out facts, but as per usual you've buried your head in the sand when faced with reality.
Northern Monkey
03-03-2016, 02:34 PM
he has a bigger chance in being the next us president than ted cruz has, americans are fed up with pointless wars, and money being thrown to the miltary, when food stamps are being cut, hillary clinton will not be the next president, her obsessed thinking in attacking russia and putin, is just another G bush, but in the left wing party, america can't afford to have another cold war, hillary's foreign policy is a disaster, could anyone trust her after what had happened in benghazi,That cold war is happening right now in Syria.Russia don't care about ISIS.They are their to protect their interests I.E Assad who the west want rid of.Russia are bombing everyone short of the US/France/UK/Turkey and their allies.This is a proxy war which could easily escalate.
Crimson Dynamo
03-03-2016, 02:48 PM
I've pulled out facts, but as per usual you've buried your head in the sand when faced with reality.
i will spare your blushes and just let you read this
https://www.quora.com/Can-Donald-Trump-become-the-next-Hitler
It explains why the whole Hitler thing is a little, shall we say, lacking...
here is a wee snippet
"The point of this answer isn't, of course, to show how unlike Hitler is from Trump. It's really to attempt to make an example of the kinds of behavior I wish people would stop doing on Quora. This is a childish question and shows a dangerous ignorance of both history and modern political figures. I'm not a Trump supporter, but it bothers me that people are so obsessed with discrediting the man that they lose all rationality into asking questions this infantile. It didn't take long, but we have already invoked Godwin's rule of Nazi analogies (Godwin's Law), though I doubt the ruling will stick. As I said before, I am not a Trump supporter, but at least when I say that, I do so because I feel his policies are flawed. I am certain that most of the people currently engaging in the debate, however, have no clue what the man's policies even are. Instead, they engage in hyperbole and exaggeration over every word the man says and ridicule of every follicle on his head, not because they are adding to the conversation and certainly not because having the right head of hair makes one qualified or not qualified to be the president, but because they want to be included where all their friends sharing "news" on Facebook. "
Mokka
03-03-2016, 02:52 PM
When trump found out who the guy was he disavowed him but he is wise to scummy reporters trying to trip him up with questions when he was there to talk about other stuff
dont just accept media stuff at face value
as for your Hitler stuff, just no :rolleyes:
in actuality... Trump did know who he was. His tweets about the guy from the past were pulled up to prove he had dealings with him before.
That internet **** follows you everywhere. Poor Trump is finding it hard to keep up with his own lies now :hehe:
Crimson Dynamo
03-03-2016, 02:55 PM
in actuality... Trump did know who he was. His tweets about the guy from the past were pulled up to prove he had dealings with him before.
That internet **** follows you everywhere. Poor Trump is finding it hard to keep up with his own lies now :hehe:
The questions were deliberately trying to get trump to give them an excuse to say Trump loves the KKK and he was trying to avoid this and stay on message
its gutter journalism at its best
And as you can imagine he meets a lot of people, an awful lot
billy123
03-03-2016, 02:58 PM
The questions were deliberately trying to get trump to give them an excuse to say Trump loves the KKK and he was trying to avoid this and stay on message
its gutter journalism at its best
And as you can imagine he meets a lot of people, an awful lotDo you love the KKK?
Serious question im just curious.
Mokka
03-03-2016, 02:58 PM
Lets just hope that Tramp fans arent too far gone from the real world to realise what a stupid mistake they would be making.
unfortunately the Drumpf fans (yes, that is his families original name) are too far gone. I mean to become one in the first place I think makes you too far gone.
Crimson Dynamo
03-03-2016, 03:00 PM
Do you love the KKK?
Serious question im just curious.
No, i dont know too much about them as I live in Scotland, i cant say I have ever heard any one their songs :shrug:
Mokka
03-03-2016, 03:00 PM
The questions were deliberately trying to get trump to give them an excuse to say Trump loves the KKK and he was trying to avoid this and stay on message
its gutter journalism at its best
And as you can imagine he meets a lot of people, an awful lot
I think what they were trying to do is to get him to acknowledge that even the Presidency isn't worth aligning yourself with the KKK, so they wanted him to say he would rather not have their votes... but trump would never alienate a fan.
Crimson Dynamo
03-03-2016, 03:00 PM
unfortunately the Drumpf fans (yes, that is his families original name) are too far gone. I mean to become one in the first place I think makes you too far gone.
Mokka what are Canadaians making of it all?
billy123
03-03-2016, 03:01 PM
that it Bob insult them and make yourself feel better
:rolleyes:OK will do
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eB3BHgc1jjc/ToOFdR0SQNI/AAAAAAACAUQ/IendfzY__WQ/s1600/haha1.gif
Mokka
03-03-2016, 03:03 PM
Mokka what are Canadaians making of it all?
Canada went liberal last election, so I think I could safely say that the mood of the County overall is anti Drumpf... but we have our pockets of red necks here that I am sure feel like the typical Drumpf fan... unfortunately.
Crimson Dynamo
03-03-2016, 03:07 PM
Canada went liberal last election, so I think I could safely say that the mood of the County overall is anti Drumpf... but we have our pockets of red necks here that I am sure feel like the typical Drumpf fan... unfortunately.
I am pretty sure he will invade and take over Canada first
not the bit that is all snow but the populated bit at the border
Essentially you are Poland c.1938
Mokka
03-03-2016, 03:11 PM
I am pretty sure he will invade and take over Canada first
not the bit that is all snow but the populated bit at the border
Essentially you are Poland c.1938
whew... I am safe then :hehe:
Here for Justin Trudeau blowing 420 smoke in his face :smug:
billy123
03-03-2016, 03:11 PM
I am pretty sure he will invade and take over Canada first
not the bit that is all snow but the populated bit at the border
Essentially you are Poland c.1938
Such violent threats :nono:
Calm down. Jeez! http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/hahaha-024.gif
Crimson Dynamo
03-03-2016, 03:17 PM
Such violent threats :nono:
Murdoch tweets....
Rupert MurdochVerified account @rupertmurdoch
As predicted, Trump reaching out to make peace with Republican "establishment". If he becomes inevitable party would be mad not to unify.
arista
03-03-2016, 03:26 PM
Yes Trump Unify
once he gets to the top.
Crimson Dynamo
03-03-2016, 03:32 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/03/02/13/31C54EF900000578-3472373-image-a-5_1456925740080.jpg
Great mates all join together to laugh at the poor
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
03-03-2016, 04:18 PM
taking twitter evidence and static pic evidence from Twitter? :joker:
are you serious?
|She was a protestor at a rally with provocative signs and being rude and dispuptive and was aksed to leave and then she was frogmarched out
To try and equate this with 60s racism is franky ridiculous
:facepalm:
Actually it's tumblr are you blind? And twitter, tumblr, whevever if it's something that's happened it's reality. Since you live in the dark a'sges, here a little tid bit, most news are reported on social media now but if you're not satisfied with social media, here are some new outlets
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=trump+supporters+attack+black+woman&rlz=1C1CHMO_en-GBGB547GB547&oq=trump+supporters+attack+black+woman&aqs=chrome..69i57.7798j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
And rude? She was protesting peacefully, holding her sign. And she was not just frogmarched she was shoved by men and women. And plenty of neo nazi are known to be present. And who the fook are you to tell people that they can't equate certain attitudes to what happened back then?
This isn't the first time that trump supporters have been violent towards non whites. 2 douchebags beat up a homeless man while citing anti-immigration things. This is who this fool is tending to.
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
03-03-2016, 04:21 PM
I'm annoyed at this point but not worried.
if he does get elected, he'll be impeached within a couple years probably because even republicans, like Speaker of the House/Republican Senate Leader, Paul Ryan, is pleading with voters to not vote for Trump. Because they know he's not sane. Could be why Chris Christe decided to endorse him, so he could get to be VP.
I fear that if Trump does get impeached, that it would cause an uproar here and if it causes a civil war, I'm probably declaring refugee status in Canada or another english speaking country until a group dedicated to keeping the peace has a decent footing in America.
He might just get shot instead.
The most racist woman I've ever had the misfortune of working with was a Pakistani woman. When I say racist, I mean against her own people and the ones trying to get residency in Britain. Her venom used to leave us all dumbfounded but if anyone called her a racist she'd laugh and say, "how can I be racist, I'm Pakistani" :hehe:
Having known her gives me some understanding of why some ethnic minorities will be voting for Trump.
She's probably one of those that have been conditioned by racist white friends and forgets she's Pakistani until she looks in the mirror at night. She's one of those Trump would say ''I have Pakistani friends'' after making racist remarks towards Pakistanies.
arista
03-03-2016, 04:25 PM
He might just get shot instead.
No more like Clinton bitch shot
arista
03-03-2016, 04:27 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/03/02/13/31C54EF900000578-3472373-image-a-5_1456925740080.jpg
Great mates all join together to laugh at the poor
Yes Nasty Clintons
arista
03-03-2016, 04:51 PM
Tonight 2AM
you can record the next Debate on FoxNewsHD
on Sky.
Or watch online
Megan gets to meet King trump again.
Crimson Dynamo
03-03-2016, 04:53 PM
Actually it's tumblr are you blind? And twitter, tumblr, whevever if it's something that's happened it's reality. Since you live in the dark a'sges, here a little tid bit, most news are reported on social media now but if you're not satisfied with social media, here are some new outlets
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=trump+supporters+attack+black+woman&rlz=1C1CHMO_en-GBGB547GB547&oq=trump+supporters+attack+black+woman&aqs=chrome..69i57.7798j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
And rude? She was protesting peacefully, holding her sign. And she was not just frogmarched she was shoved by men and women. And plenty of neo nazi are known to be present. And who the fook are you to tell people that they can't equate certain attitudes to what happened back then?
This isn't the first time that trump supporters have been violent towards non whites. 2 douchebags beat up a homeless man while citing anti-immigration things. This is who this fool is tending to.
oh tumblr, how could i have been so stupid D:
she was a rabble rouser, there to spoil peoples enjoyment and thankfully she was rightfully ejected just as a trump agitator would be at a Clinton event
" And plenty of neo nazi are known to be present." - evidence please
2 douchebags beat up a homeless man while citing anti-immigration things - not sure what this has to do with anything at all
Johnnyuk123
03-03-2016, 05:21 PM
Trump for the win!
Come on Donald you can do it!
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI7xD-dVAAAow0l.jpg
DemolitionRed
03-03-2016, 06:53 PM
Trump appeals to poor, uneducated and angry voters. http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/07/trump_appeals_to_poor_uneducat.html
The 'Trumpeteers' are an easy crowd to move when in the presence of their demigod. Trump knows how to manipulate their anxieties, fears, worries and hopes. Trump plays to the cheap seats-the lowest common denominator-as he brays about "making America great again," killing "terrorists," and building a wall on the Mexican border.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/27/donald-trumps-surge-is-heavily-reliant-on-less-educated-americans-heres-why/
When he recently said, "I love the poorly educated" I thought, "I bet you do Donald...I bet you do."
Johnnyuk123
03-03-2016, 07:00 PM
The actual truth about Donald Trump is out there if anyone cares to look beyond the bullshyte media hyped hate filled paid for social media rants.
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DemolitionRed
03-03-2016, 08:21 PM
The question is, what made you bother to look at him in the first place? Are you really that interested in the American economy and how Trump will implement his rudimentary politics; politics that are so radically different than the politics we know and understand in Britain? I've never seen you take much interest in British politics so why so much interest in America? are you thinking of emigrating?
He was a disgrace black people are happy. He was an Uncle Tom.How dare he not blame White people for everything? we should disown him as one of our own.
Tom4784
03-03-2016, 09:23 PM
Trump appeals to poor, uneducated and angry voters. http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/07/trump_appeals_to_poor_uneducat.html
The 'Trumpeteers' are an easy crowd to move when in the presence of their demigod. Trump knows how to manipulate their anxieties, fears, worries and hopes. Trump plays to the cheap seats-the lowest common denominator-as he brays about "making America great again," killing "terrorists," and building a wall on the Mexican border.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/27/donald-trumps-surge-is-heavily-reliant-on-less-educated-americans-heres-why/
When he recently said, "I love the poorly educated" I thought, "I bet you do Donald...I bet you do."
Pretty much.
Trump is a man who is endorsed by terrorists and bigots, his polices are nazi-esque and he's so pathetic that he has to threaten to sue anyone who disagrees with him, let's not forget he sent a man pictures of his fingers for years after the man said in an article that he had short fingers, how can someone so petty run a country? Let's not forget how pretty much all his policies are also incredibly unconstitutional.
How this man will deal with anyone that isn't easily led or easily pleased is a mystery. Putin will make him his bitch, Assad would walk all over him. Pretty much any other world leader would dismantle him.
Trump is a stupid man endorsed by stupid people and he's got no place in running a country, never mind the most powerful one in the world. People who support Trump would have probably thought that the Nazis had the right idea before they invaded Poland.
If he wins, history will repeat itself.
The actual truth about Donald Trump is out there if anyone cares to look beyond the bullshyte media hyped hate filled paid for social media rants.
iOVQv156vq8
By looking at that guys picture of himself he's just an average trump support who looks racist
DemolitionRed
03-03-2016, 10:31 PM
Pretty much.
Trump is a man who is endorsed by terrorists and bigots, his polices are nazi-esque and he's so pathetic that he has to threaten to sue anyone who disagrees with him, let's not forget he sent a man pictures of his fingers for years after the man said in an article that he had short fingers, how can someone so petty run a country? Let's not forget how pretty much all his policies are also incredibly unconstitutional.
How this man will deal with anyone that isn't easily led or easily pleased is a mystery. Putin will make him his bitch, Assad would walk all over him. Pretty much any other world leader would dismantle him.
Trump is a stupid man endorsed by stupid people and he's got no place in running a country, never mind the most powerful one in the world. People who support Trump would have probably thought that the Nazis had the right idea before they invaded Poland.
If he wins, history will repeat itself.
If that sort of history comes out of America, then we are all in trouble.
The man's on some sort of massive ego trip, the sort of ego trip a psychopath craves and that scares the hell out of me.
He's the first presidential candidate in American history to name call and personally insult other candidates. Making comments about Hillary's sex life and Cruz suffering from a BO problem isn't just not funny, but shows how low this guy's prepared to stoop.
He continually brags. He recently said that he could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot people and still not lose a single vote.
If Trump gets into the Whitehouse, I'll put money on America falling into moral decline within 2 years or less and I can't imagine the rest of the Western world admiring his authoritarian vision of America and when you don't admire Trump, Trump wants to punish you for it. America will become a dictatorship and the rest of the world will stay well clear.
The thing that's unthinkable for me is, Obama has spent his entire presidency fighting against racial discrimination and he's very possibly going to be handing that over to a man who promotes racial discrimination.
Thing is Trump is neither as extreme or as principled on hard right positions as his rivals are. He's not as anti-abortion as Cruz or Rubio, he doesn't emphasise Christianity as much, he's not as opposed to gay marriage, he doesn't care much for Israel and he's not too worried about Russia. Even on immigration his record is not that hostile to it and in the past he's been close to the Clintons and in 2012 he supported the moderate Romney rather than any extreme Republicans.
Most polls also show that Americans back Trump more than Hilary on the economy, on terrorism and on immigration. He appeals to blue-collar Democrats as well as Republicans because he's the anti-politician; none of the slick polish of career senators, no interest in towing a party line, not beholden to vested political interests, no past political scandals. From a Republican point of view they've had two establishment candidates in the last two elections who came nowhere near to beating Obama. For anyone else, he might appeal as a breath of fresh air. This isn't our election in the UK and it's time we tried to understand the Trump phenomenon rather than just dismissing it.
Vicky.
03-03-2016, 11:00 PM
Is there actually a possibility this guy might win? Just..I'm not up to date on American politics at all but I always thought he was viewed as a kinda joke. Like how the BNP and such are seen over here. But from the recent stories and such, he actually seems popular?
Is there actually a possibility this guy might win? Just..I'm not up to date on American politics at all but I always thought he was viewed as a kinda joke. Like how the BNP and such are seen over here. But from the recent stories and such, he actually seems popular?
He's now very likely to be the Republican nomination and would probably run Hilary close. Couple of good articles from the last couple of days:
His strengths – down-home appeal, life experience and real-world commercial success (this is the US) – all underline that which Clinton lacks. They also serve as a reminder of why her campaign for the Democratic candidacy eight years ago ultimately failed. Barack Obama had what it took to inspire voters; she, for all her formidable achievements, did not.
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Trump has demonstrated that he can switch register, practically overnight, from outrageous to gracious, even reasonable. He has his own success story to tell that many Americans will find attractive. He can get things done, real things. And he has already shown – his spat with Pope Francis being a prime example – that moral criticism may not stick. And if he has personal baggage – well, so does Clinton, too.
The nominations will not be fixed until the party conventions in July. But even at this early stage it is worth noting that the US of the European mind tends to be a more generous, less rugged, and more outward-looking place than much of it is. When Trump speaks of building a wall with Mexico, he promises a reality that partially exists; there is an 18ft-high metal fence for a third of the length of the border. And when he condemns the Iraq War, proposes talks with Vladimir Putin or ridicules Obama’s ability to handle Congress, he undermines Clinton’s positions in ways that voters across the spectrum will understand.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/clinton-vs-trump-is-not-the-race-hillary-would-have-chosen-a6907906.html
Yes, Trump’s appeal is largely that of the outsider. He’s the voice of countless ordinary Americans who are sick to the back teeth with political correctness, who detest Washington and its dysfunctional ways, who feel the country is going down the drain. “All talk, no action, never gets done,” are Trump’s watchwords.
...
But there’s more to Trump than that. Skilfully, he plays lip-service to canons of Republican orthodoxy. Guns are good, illegal immigrants and abortion are very bad and Obamacare must go. Like every good Republican, he’s put forward a completely unaffordable programme of tax cuts. Look a little more closely, however, and Trump may be the most centrist frontrunner the party has had in decades.
Cruz and Rubio assail him as a Democrat in disguise, pointing to his former praise for a single payer health system, the kind words he once had for that arch-demon Hillary Clinton and his support for many of the activities of the Planned Parenthood organisation, vilified by the party because it helps women get abortions.
Then there’s Trump’s show of evenhandedness in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict – reiterated in Thursday’s debate – and his denunciation of the 2003 invasion of Iraq: the world he says, would be a safer place if the likes of Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi were still in power. Cruz and Rubio are spot-on. Trump is in many respects a traitor to his party (assuming of course he truly belonged to it in the first place). Alas for his rivals, apostasy pays off.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/us-election-2016-donald-trump-could-hold-the-winning-hand-in-the-race-for-the-republican-a6900296.html
Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2016, 02:45 PM
Thing is Trump is neither as extreme or as principled on hard right positions as his rivals are. He's not as anti-abortion as Cruz or Rubio, he doesn't emphasise Christianity as much, he's not as opposed to gay marriage, he doesn't care much for Israel and he's not too worried about Russia. Even on immigration his record is not that hostile to it and in the past he's been close to the Clintons and in 2012 he supported the moderate Romney rather than any extreme Republicans.
Most polls also show that Americans back Trump more than Hilary on the economy, on terrorism and on immigration. He appeals to blue-collar Democrats as well as Republicans because he's the anti-politician; none of the slick polish of career senators, no interest in towing a party line, not beholden to vested political interests, no past political scandals. From a Republican point of view they've had two establishment candidates in the last two elections who came nowhere near to beating Obama. For anyone else, he might appeal as a breath of fresh air. This isn't our election in the UK and it's time we tried to understand the Trump phenomenon rather than just dismissing it.
:clap1:
Excellent post there
Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2016, 02:46 PM
Is there actually a possibility this guy might win? Just..I'm not up to date on American politics at all but I always thought he was viewed as a kinda joke. Like how the BNP and such are seen over here. But from the recent stories and such, he actually seems popular?
look what happened to Corbyn over here :omgno:
the truth
04-03-2016, 02:46 PM
Thing is Trump is neither as extreme or as principled on hard right positions as his rivals are. He's not as anti-abortion as Cruz or Rubio, he doesn't emphasise Christianity as much, he's not as opposed to gay marriage, he doesn't care much for Israel and he's not too worried about Russia. Even on immigration his record is not that hostile to it and in the past he's been close to the Clintons and in 2012 he supported the moderate Romney rather than any extreme Republicans.
Most polls also show that Americans back Trump more than Hilary on the economy, on terrorism and on immigration. He appeals to blue-collar Democrats as well as Republicans because he's the anti-politician; none of the slick polish of career senators, no interest in towing a party line, not beholden to vested political interests, no past political scandals. From a Republican point of view they've had two establishment candidates in the last two elections who came nowhere near to beating Obama. For anyone else, he might appeal as a breath of fresh air. This isn't our election in the UK and it's time we tried to understand the Trump phenomenon rather than just dismissing it.
Brilliant analysis and totally spot on. He is seen as the anti dote to all the BS that spews from politicians. The left will never understand it, just as they will never understand business or the economy. They will block their ears and scream racist, in their usual inverted bigoted way. To them stopping illegal immigration, curbing the number of terrorists, drug runners and gun smugglers is racist? and they think trump is inane? look at the EU if you want the definition of insane.
Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2016, 03:02 PM
RNC chief Reince Priebus has released a statement on tonight's debate, again comparing the Republican candidates with the Democratic field.
"While Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders promise to put the failed Obama agenda on steroids, our Republican candidates are the only ones offering the course correction voters overwhelmingly want and our country desperately needs," Priebus said,
"The record Republican turnout we have seen across the country is a reflection of the enthusiasm our Party is generating and stands in stark contrast to the Democrats who are staying home in droves."
http://www.foxnews.com/live-coverage/fox-news-gop-debate
the truth
04-03-2016, 03:06 PM
If that sort of history comes out of America, then we are all in trouble.
The man's on some sort of massive ego trip, the sort of ego trip a psychopath craves and that scares the hell out of me.
He's the first presidential candidate in American history to name call and personally insult other candidates. Making comments about Hillary's sex life and Cruz suffering from a BO problem isn't just not funny, but shows how low this guy's prepared to stoop.
He continually brags. He recently said that he could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot people and still not lose a single vote.
If Trump gets into the Whitehouse, I'll put money on America falling into moral decline within 2 years or less and I can't imagine the rest of the Western world admiring his authoritarian vision of America and when you don't admire Trump, Trump wants to punish you for it. America will become a dictatorship and the rest of the world will stay well clear.
The thing that's unthinkable for me is, Obama has spent his entire presidency fighting against racial discrimination and he's very possibly going to be handing that over to a man who promotes racial discrimination.
1) trump employs and has employed tens of thousands of immigrants.
2) he employs thousands of women in top positions
3) hes a multi billionaire, he doesn't even need to bother, he genuinely wants to see America great again.
4) he has been banging on about increasing tariffs on the Chinese for over a decade, at the time the liberals even called that racist, again he was 100% right
5) 14 million illegal immigrants pour in from south America every year. over tatty little fences? the number for the drugs and crime they bring are staggering running into the billions. yet no politician dare say anything for fear of being labelled racist or damaging their politicial careers. again they are wrong and trump is right. the first rule of the president or politicians is to protect the public.
6) he called for a temporary shut down on muslims until the government can work out what the hell is going on. yes OTT. but at least he has the backbone to address the massive white elephant everyone else is ducking. 33,000 innocent people murdered around the globe by radical islamists. recently a terrorist attack in America. in Europe look where the insane liberal agenda has taken us? over a million migrants sailing across the ocean paying illegal traffickers to ship them across, thousands drowning on the way.....we have no plan in place, no thought out ideas on how to sort out this nightmare.....and all discussion on the issue has been banned for the past decade due to political correctness....
political correctness was meant to protect people, instead we now have 10000s more terrorists, millions more illegal immigrants, huge increases in mass killings, huge increases in rapes and attacks on women and indoctrination of children.....and the liberals say what? were not allowed to talk about it and anyone who does is a racist? these liberals are 10000 times more insane than trump and 1000 times as dangerous.
these liberals who ban free speech at the same time vote to bomb the middle east to smitherseens? bombs are fine, words re not?
trump simply addressed the issue.
7) guns., he is far less pro guns that most republicans, calling for some bans on assault weapons and longer background checks
8) he wants a simplified tax system where everyone above 50,000 pays their fair share
9) he wants to keep the social security benefits
10) he is a sworn enemy of fox news and Rupert Murdoch, simply because he speaks his mind and doesn't get bullied by news corporations
11) he doesn't take any money from corporations to finance his campaign or any of his views
12) he has no vested interest here. keep looking you wont find one. he sees the country run by idiotic politicians who don't live in the real world or the business world and sees America been destroyed on debts. Obama is a nice guy, but the debt crisis hasn't gone anywhere. and isis have been allowed to grow and grow. there is a vacuum
13) His opponents , apart from Bernie, are all bought off.
14) Hes done a phenomenal amount for charity raising tens of millions
15) He will have every part of him attacked. but as far as I see it, he has a fantastic family. they all adore him. he has a wonderful business and brand across the world. he just says it as it is, whereas politicians talk their own BS language, saying one thing, do another.
Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2016, 03:07 PM
well said Truth
Niamh.
04-03-2016, 03:10 PM
Last warning for people to keep it about the thread topic and not eachother
Mokka
04-03-2016, 03:32 PM
Trump brings out the worst in us all :fist:
Niamh.
04-03-2016, 03:39 PM
:laugh:
Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2016, 03:48 PM
Im watching last nights debate and he is doing very well
The fact he is not a politician gives him so many outs
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
04-03-2016, 05:36 PM
oh tumblr, how could i have been so stupid D:
she was a rabble rouser, there to spoil peoples enjoyment and thankfully she was rightfully ejected just as a trump agitator would be at a Clinton event
" And plenty of neo nazi are known to be present." - evidence please
2 douchebags beat up a homeless man while citing anti-immigration things - not sure what this has to do with anything at all
Start looking for evidence yourself. :conf:
''Not sure what this has to do with anything'' shows a pattern of behaviour from his supporters.
One of them has been discharged from the US Marine cops training lol as only people like you work hard to condone disgusting behaviour.
She was walking out peacefully then those Nazis couldn't resist shoving her and calling her a ni99er.
Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2016, 05:39 PM
Start looking for evidence yourself. :conf:
One of them has been discharged from the US Marine cops training lol as only people like you work hard to condone disgusting behaviour.
She was walking out peacefully then those Nazis couldn't resist shoving her and calling her a ni99er.
I think you should not post stuff you cannot back up with evidence
And have some respect for forum members and desist calling people Nazis
grow up ffs
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
04-03-2016, 05:40 PM
Trump appeals to poor, uneducated and angry voters. http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/07/trump_appeals_to_poor_uneducat.html
The 'Trumpeteers' are an easy crowd to move when in the presence of their demigod. Trump knows how to manipulate their anxieties, fears, worries and hopes. Trump plays to the cheap seats-the lowest common denominator-as he brays about "making America great again," killing "terrorists," and building a wall on the Mexican border.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/27/donald-trumps-surge-is-heavily-reliant-on-less-educated-americans-heres-why/
When he recently said, "I love the poorly educated" I thought, "I bet you do Donald...I bet you do."
Yup. He said I could shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters.
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
04-03-2016, 05:44 PM
I think you should not post stuff you cannot back up with evidence
And have some respect for forum members and desist calling people Nazis
grow up ffs
If news outlets are calling Trump supporters Neo Nazis TIBB members can't stomach that word? You grow up :conf:
http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/03/02/msnbcs-chris-hayes-highlights-white-supremacist/208985
Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2016, 05:50 PM
If news outlets are calling Trump supporters Neo Nazis TIBB members can't stomach that word? You grow up :conf:
http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/03/02/msnbcs-chris-hayes-highlights-white-supremacist/208985
That particular person did not call the supporters the rally Nazis, he claimed that "Neo Nazis" (slight difference, google it) were backing Trump"
At least if you are going to copy some random journalist from the USA, read what he says and understand it first.
Johnnyuk123
04-03-2016, 05:52 PM
Im watching last nights debate and he is doing very well
The fact he is not a politician gives him so many outs
I agree 100%
He is the american peoples choice LT so good for him i say. He is doing so well and without a single back hander from the top 6 big companies that run americas media. 90% of what americans see on tv over there is decided by those 6 companies. People are not stupid, they have had enough of being hand fed bullshyte so you can't blame them for wanting Donald a man who can and will get the job done and on time and on budget. No wonder they are running scared. He can't be bought no matter how hard murdock and his side kicks try.:nono:
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
04-03-2016, 06:02 PM
That particular person did not call the supporters the rally Nazis, he claimed that "Neo Nazis" (slight difference, google it) were backing Trump"
At least if you are going to copy some random journalist from the USA, read what he says and understand it first.
Oh fook off LT there are plenty of other sources. The supporters there could be wearing a shirt saying NEO NAZI and you would still try to dispute it.:laugh: It's like when Dylan Roof's crime was clearly race related and some news outlets were still like ''was the attack race related?'' :laugh:
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/neo-nazis-trump-rally-caught-video-roughing-black-woman
Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2016, 06:08 PM
Oh fook off LT there are plenty of other sources. The supporters there could be wearing a shirt saying NEO NAZI and you would still try to dispute it.:laugh: It's like when Dylan Roof's crime was clearly race related and some news outlets were still like ''was the attack race related?'' :laugh:
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/neo-nazis-trump-rally-caught-video-roughing-black-woman
calling American families at that rally Nazis is shameful and shows a complete lack of knowledge about what a Nazi is
DemolitionRed
04-03-2016, 06:09 PM
@TheTruth
Trump is big on the second amendment and fully supports anyone who wants to have a weapons permit. According to Trump, people who shoot people have a mental illness
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Donald_Trump_Gun_Control.htm
He claims his simple tax system is revenue neutral but its not. This is an upper middle class tax cut and Trump has failed to provide evidence that he can keep his promise to cut taxes at the level he has proposed and raise enough new revenue elsewhere to make his plan revenue neutral.
http://taxfoundation.org/blog/donald-trump-s-tax-plan-will-not-be-revenue-neutral-under-any-circumstances
As for social security benefits, Trump appears to be reliant on a fluidly robust economy. He talks about benefits like they are a cash flow problem due to the unemployed but the real cash flow problem or should I say, the biggest, comes from pension funds. His promises are reliant on an ever growing economy, but if there’s a recession then they would simply run out of money.
http://www.fool.com/retirement/general/2016/02/21/how-donald-trump-thinks-we-should-fix-social-secur.aspx
Of course he has a vested interest in America. Most of his businesses are in the USA and so to suggest otherwise is just publicity-seeking rhetoric.
Can you give me a link of 33,000 innocent people murdered around the globe by radical islamists please because it would be wrong to include innocents killed within war zones in the middle east in those numbers.
What is going to happen to all those Muslim business men who bring billions of dollars in revenue into the USA? Lets remember that Muslims don’t just come from the middle east but are world wide and play an important role in the American economy. This temporary ban on Muslims entering the US will have a huge impact on Americas global business community and when he takes down the ban, why would these wealthy businessmen want to continue using America as a trade partner?
Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2016, 06:12 PM
@TheTruth
Trump is big on the second amendment and fully supports anyone who wants to have a weapons permit. According to Trump, people who shoot people have a mental illness
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Donald_Trump_Gun_Control.htm
He claims his simple tax system is revenue neutral but its not. This is an upper middle class tax cut and Trump has failed to provide evidence that he can keep his promise to cut taxes at the level he has proposed and raise enough new revenue elsewhere to make his plan revenue neutral.
http://taxfoundation.org/blog/donald-trump-s-tax-plan-will-not-be-revenue-neutral-under-any-circumstances
As for social security benefits, Trump appears to be reliant on a fluidly robust economy. He talks about benefits like they are a cash flow problem due to the unemployed but the real cash flow problem or should I say, the biggest, comes from pension funds. His promises are reliant on an ever growing economy, but if there’s a recession then they would simply run out of money.
http://www.fool.com/retirement/general/2016/02/21/how-donald-trump-thinks-we-should-fix-social-secur.aspx
Of course he has a vested interest in America. Most of his businesses are in the USA and so to suggest otherwise is just publicity-seeking rhetoric.
Can you give me a link of 33,000 innocent people murdered around the globe by radical islamists please because it would be wrong to include innocents killed within war zones in the middle east in those numbers.
What is going to happen to all those Muslim business men who bring billions of dollars in revenue into the USA? Lets remember that Muslims don’t just come from the middle east but are world wide and play an important role in the American economy. This temporary ban on Muslims entering the US will have a huge impact on Americas global business community and when he takes down the ban, why would these wealthy businessmen want to continue using America as a trade partner?
The muslim businessmen will, if they are not terrorists, understand fully that America needs to protect bits self. I doubt any will give two hoots, all they care about is $$$$
DemolitionRed
04-03-2016, 06:14 PM
If news outlets are calling Trump supporters Neo Nazis TIBB members can't stomach that word? You grow up :conf:
http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/03/02/msnbcs-chris-hayes-highlights-white-supremacist/208985
OMG that video is so disturbing. So getting rid of political correctness will allow this sort of hatred towards a black woman :fist:
Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2016, 06:16 PM
OMG that video is so disturbing. So getting rid of political correctness will allow this sort of hatred towards a black woman :fist:
dont be ridiculous, they were fed up with a disruptive twat ruining their rally
DemolitionRed
04-03-2016, 06:16 PM
The muslim businessmen will, if they are not terrorists, understand fully that America needs to protect bits self. I doubt any will give two hoots, all they care about is $$$$
WoW! well when thousands lose their jobs I think they will care.
DemolitionRed
04-03-2016, 06:19 PM
dont be ridiculous, they were fed up with a disruptive twat ruining their rally
No, they were white supremacists, I saw the hatred on that well known white supremacists face. Rallies get disruptive all the time with people on opposing sides but very few resort to pushing and shoving a woman through a crowd whilst calling her all kinds of ****ty racist names.
C**nts the lot of them.
Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2016, 06:20 PM
WoW! well when thousands lose their jobs I think they will care.
utter pointless speculation
Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2016, 06:21 PM
No, they were white supremacists, I saw the hatred on that well known white supremacists face. Rallies get disruptive all the time with people on opposing sides but very few resort to pushing and shoving a woman through a crowd whilst calling her all kinds of ****ty racist names.
C**nts the lot of them.
Which white supremacist and what names can you hear them call?
DemolitionRed
04-03-2016, 06:25 PM
Which white supremacist and what names can you hear them call?
Im not putting the video on again because I'm on a boat and have limited internet but the news reader clearly says the guy in the red baseball caps name and says he's a well known white supremacist. You can put the video on yourself if you want to know.
Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2016, 06:45 PM
Im not putting the video on again because I'm on a boat and have limited internet but the news reader clearly says the guy in the red baseball caps name and says he's a well known white supremacist. You can put the video on yourself if you want to know.
You do realise that DT cannot control who comes to his rallys right?
and if that lady who "claimed" that she was racially abused does not want to be pushed dont turn up to agitate and ruin an event thinking your views are right and everyone there is wrong
vile selfish cow
GiRTh
04-03-2016, 08:32 PM
There have been many incidents at Trump Rallies. This latest one is one of the more tame incidents. Also need to add there have been incidents at Rubio rallies too so its not just Trump who attracts the assholes.
It looks like Trumps getting the nomination and it looks like the GOP establishment are upping the anti with their attacks. Mitt Romney launches into Trump only last might in a speech. Its fascinating the establishment efforts to control Trump result in him going even further against them. One thing I do know is there is no one better than the GOP at smear campaigns so this could get very very ugly.
Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2016, 08:34 PM
This maelstrom has been coming for the GOp for years
GiRTh
04-03-2016, 08:40 PM
This maelstrom has been coming for the GOp for yearsAgree. Trump is a product of the Tea party and the birthers etc; the GOP created this monster and now they have to deal with him.
GiRTh
04-03-2016, 08:55 PM
MZj1bQtRNdk
Good bit by Stephen Colbert on Romney trying to smear Trump. He makes a great point at the end in that the GOP establsihment might back Romney if he declared at the convention in July. It'd be a bit left field but it might be enough to stop Trump.
the truth
05-03-2016, 06:41 AM
mitt Romney to the rescue lol the man is a loser, worse still a bitter mean spirited jealous charmless loser, the only thing he has going for him is presidential hair
DemolitionRed
05-03-2016, 08:35 AM
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Make Donnald Drumpf again.
DemolitionRed
05-03-2016, 09:56 AM
Seriously though, not a single republican candidate wants to protect climate change? Doesn’t that worry you or do you agree with them?
As for Trump, the American presidency isn’t like hosting a talk show, its not about pandering to get yourself in the news and its not about playing to the crowd back home. Presidency isn’t about Trumps sort of vindictive entertainment either….One that comes to mind is when he mimicked the body movements of that physically handicapped journalist who outed his big lie on Muslims cheering 9/11.
American presidency is not about gold leaf and marble columns or having your name up in lights; nor is it about threatening to sue those who discredit your governance, but about massive decision making and taking responsibility for those decisions; responsibilities like sending 21 year olds into war zones, ensuring the banking system doesn’t collapse and owning the nuclear codes. Being the US president its not just about looking after America either, but about working as a world diplomat with other leaders around the globe and giving assistance when needed.
Trump is a show man and a sales man with a convincing pitch but he’s an amateur. When it comes to government, he’s no different to the kid who’s a white belt at karate but convinces everyone around him that he’s really a black belt. He’s a man who’s built his empire on both inheritance and lies and he’s a man who has very deliberately stirred up some evil propaganda. He’s a nonsense, a joke, a fool who, for all his money, behaves like white trailer trash and so although I hope none of the republican candidates get in, I sincerely hope its not him.
arista
05-03-2016, 10:08 AM
MZj1bQtRNdk
Good bit by Stephen Colbert on Romney trying to smear Trump. He makes a great point at the end in that the GOP establsihment might back Romney if he declared at the convention in July. It'd be a bit left field but it might be enough to stop Trump.
Thanks Girth
Love the Yellow Brick Road
I wish his show was on UK TV
And DR. good on John Oliver - also good
SkyAtlanticHD
Crimson Dynamo
05-03-2016, 10:44 AM
US Republican front-runner Donald Trump has softened his stance on torture, saying he would not order the military to break international law.
Mr Trump had indicated in a TV debate on Thursday he might order troops to carry out water-boarding "and tougher" on terrorism suspects.
On Friday, he said "as president I will be bound by laws".
source: various news agencies
:clap1:
Good to see Donald abiding by international law
Johnnyuk123
05-03-2016, 11:50 AM
All the paid for negativity being thrown at Donald to try an stop him becoming president by the big 6 companies are making me like Donald more and more. Great stuff! Donald for the win! :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:
GiRTh
05-03-2016, 12:11 PM
Seriously though, not a single republican candidate wants to protect climate change? Doesn’t that worry you or do you agree with them?
As for Trump, the American presidency isn’t like hosting a talk show, its not about pandering to get yourself in the news and its not about playing to the crowd back home. Presidency isn’t about Trumps sort of vindictive entertainment either….One that comes to mind is when he mimicked the body movements of that physically handicapped journalist who outed his big lie on Muslims cheering 9/11.
American presidency is not about gold leaf and marble columns or having your name up in lights; nor is it about threatening to sue those who discredit your governance, but about massive decision making and taking responsibility for those decisions; responsibilities like sending 21 year olds into war zones, ensuring the banking system doesn’t collapse and owning the nuclear codes. Being the US president its not just about looking after America either, but about working as a world diplomat with other leaders around the globe and giving assistance when needed.
Trump is a show man and a sales man with a convincing pitch but he’s an amateur. When it comes to government, he’s no different to the kid who’s a white belt at karate but convinces everyone around him that he’s really a black belt. He’s a man who’s built his empire on both inheritance and lies and he’s a man who has very deliberately stirred up some evil propaganda. He’s a nonsense, a joke, a fool who, for all his money, behaves like white trailer trash and so although I hope none of the republican candidates get in, I sincerely hope its not him.That is exactly why he is winning. The fact that he isnt a politician who will bow down to big business and banks is one of his main campaign issues. Then compare that to how much Hillary embodies the establishment and how much she takes from big banks and big business then you see a Hillary victory is not the sure thing many people think it is.
arista
05-03-2016, 12:11 PM
Slow Talking Ben Carson
has Dropped out the race at last
kirklancaster
05-03-2016, 12:42 PM
TRUMP HATERS ARE JUST JEALOUS
BECAUSE THE CLINTONS ARE SO POOR BY COMPARISON, BILL ONLY LEFT A DEPOSIT ON THIS DRESS OF LEWINSKY'S
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/45e7cad213609ed99bdc785b419ae148700350f7/c=41-64-815-646&r=x408&c=540x405/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2014/05/07//1399489209000-lewinsky-dress.JPG
WHEREAS, DONALD CAN BUY THE DRESS SHOP FOR CASH
:laugh:
DemolitionRed
05-03-2016, 12:47 PM
That is exactly why he is winning. The fact that he isnt a politician who will bow down to big business and banks is one of his main campaign issues. Then compare that to how much Hillary embodies the establishment and how much she takes from big banks and big business then you see a Hillary victory is not the sure thing many people think it is.
All the Republicans are as bad as one another (I mean, they all have similar agendas) but at least the others have a good foundational base in the political field. Its like voting for Alan Sugar because we like the way he's a straight talker, he's someone we can all aspire to and more importantly, we find him entertaining. Whilst he may be a Lord, that doesn't mean he's capable or calm enough to make decisions on every aspect of government.
DemolitionRed
05-03-2016, 01:02 PM
He keeps telling us how rich he is and how he’s funding his own campaign but is he ? Since August of last year Trump set up a donate site and although the real figures aren't going to come out before his tax returns, its reported to be many, many millions of dollars.
Its impossible to do the maths on what's came out of his own pocket without the total figures of donations received but when you learn that Trump is running his campaign in the building he owns and using a lot of those donor contributions to pay the rent to himself, it becomes apparent that he’s putting the donations in his own pocket so he can claim he’s paying for the campaign himself. My guess would be, he hasn't spent a dime.
He also tells us that some of those donations go to his chosen ‘Veteran groups’ which he claims are none profit charities but when both Politcusus and Forbes did a bit of digging they discovered this-
“The Donald J. Trump Foundation has donated $5.5 million to 298 charities between 2009 and 2013 (the most recent year available), according to the non-profit’s 990 tax forms from those years. Of that, only $57,000 has been donated to seven organizations that directly benefit military veterans or their families, Forbes found. Wounded Warriors was not among the organizations Trump’s foundation gave to in that time period.
Forbes also found that Trump, who we estimate is worth $4.5 billion, has not made personal contributions to his foundation during the same time period. We reached out to his spokespeople for comment, but did not hear back."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/emilycanal/2015/12/03/donald-trump-veterans/#5fa86e886c9e
So barely 1% of Trump’s foundation’s donations went to organizations that support veterans. Which is strange because he’s really used these Veterans to gain popularity. All charitable donations (not surprisingly) are funnelled through his company and so there is no way of knowing if his own company donate a single dime to these Veterans he claims to be supporting.
The Trump campaign refuses to tell Forbes which veteran groups its working with, though they did let it slip they were supporting the “Wounded Warrior Project” a charitable organization that are known for spending most of their donations on staff luxury hotels and holidays.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wounded-warrior-project-accused-of-wasting-donation-money/
Johnnyuk123
05-03-2016, 02:01 PM
Hispanic lady shows her support for Donald Trump.
http://rightwise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/trump-witcher.jpg
You can't get a better endorsement than that can you! :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:
Kizzy
05-03-2016, 02:33 PM
You can buy anything these days.
GiRTh
05-03-2016, 03:17 PM
All the Republicans are as bad as one another (I mean, they all have similar agendas) but at least the others have a good foundational base in the political field. Its like voting for Alan Sugar because we like the way he's a straight talker, he's someone we can all aspire to and more importantly, we find him entertaining. Whilst he may be a Lord, that doesn't mean he's capable or calm enough to make decisions on every aspect of government.I disagree the others have a good base in politics. Rubio is without doubt the most bought politician in this field and possibly the most bought of all time. Its not particularly relevant how many years he has in the Senate when its pretty much common knowledge he does not have his constituents best interests at heart. Trump beats them all with his sound bites that apparently speak to the heart of the American middle classes. The middle classes know Rubio or Cruz dont care about them so along comes Trump to take all their votes.
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
05-03-2016, 06:41 PM
Trump not completely self funded as he claims
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/75-million-donations-helping-trumps-funded-campaign/story?id=37403906&nwltr=abcn_tco
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
05-03-2016, 06:44 PM
Hispanic lady shows her support for Donald Trump.
http://rightwise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/trump-witcher.jpg
You can't get a better endorsement than that can you! :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:
Wonder how much he paid her...
DemolitionRed
05-03-2016, 07:47 PM
That video is just so wrong!
kirklancaster
05-03-2016, 08:01 PM
I disagree the others have a good base in politics. Rubio is without doubt the most bought politician in this field and possibly the most bought of all time. Its not particularly relevant how many years he has in the Senate when its pretty much common knowledge he does not have his constituents best interests at heart. Trump beats them all with his sound bites that apparently speak to the heart of the American middle classes. The middle classes know Rubio or Cruz dont care about them so along comes Trump to take all their votes.
A great and accurate assessment. :clap1::clap1::clap1:
the truth
05-03-2016, 08:13 PM
Seriously though, not a single republican candidate wants to protect climate change? Doesn’t that worry you or do you agree with them?
As for Trump, the American presidency isn’t like hosting a talk show, its not about pandering to get yourself in the news and its not about playing to the crowd back home. Presidency isn’t about Trumps sort of vindictive entertainment either….One that comes to mind is when he mimicked the body movements of that physically handicapped journalist who outed his big lie on Muslims cheering 9/11.
American presidency is not about gold leaf and marble columns or having your name up in lights; nor is it about threatening to sue those who discredit your governance, but about massive decision making and taking responsibility for those decisions; responsibilities like sending 21 year olds into war zones, ensuring the banking system doesn’t collapse and owning the nuclear codes. Being the US president its not just about looking after America either, but about working as a world diplomat with other leaders around the globe and giving assistance when needed.
Trump is a show man and a sales man with a convincing pitch but he’s an amateur. When it comes to government, he’s no different to the kid who’s a white belt at karate but convinces everyone around him that he’s really a black belt. He’s a man who’s built his empire on both inheritance and lies and he’s a man who has very deliberately stirred up some evil propaganda. He’s a nonsense, a joke, a fool who, for all his money, behaves like white trailer trash and so although I hope none of the republican candidates get in, I sincerely hope its not him.
All things the new labour government completely failed at
the truth
05-03-2016, 08:17 PM
All the paid for negativity being thrown at Donald to try an stop him becoming president by the big 6 companies are making me like Donald more and more. Great stuff! Donald for the win! :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:
agreed. the corporations hate him, which shows he is a good guy underneath it all...a man who is really there for small to medium business people, not corporate monopolies. this subtle difference is lost on the politics of envy and hate on within the radical liberals whose over simplistic inverted bigotry blames everything on gender and sexuality.lol. if only business were that simple. real business, real competition, is about the truth
GiRTh
05-03-2016, 09:30 PM
Bernie Sanders is getting attacked as much as Trump. I'd say he's being slaughtered by the Dem establishment. First there was the super delegate fiasco in New Hampshire which meant even though Bernie won 60% to 40% both candidates left New Hampshire with 15 delegates each. What about the constant attacks from the Daily beast? After just a slight bit of investigation we see an associate editor and regular contributor to the Daily Beast is Miss Chelsea Clinton. Coincidence? :think:
DemolitionRed
05-03-2016, 09:37 PM
All things the new labour government completely failed at
Do you mean NL or Corbyn?
DemolitionRed
05-03-2016, 09:59 PM
Conservative American politics are a bunch of evil MF's. Historically they have fecked up everything concerning Black and poor people across the decades.... That is, in America. I may not agree with a lot of British conservatism but it is a horse of a different colour, when compared to their American counterparts.
arista
06-03-2016, 02:42 AM
From CBSNewsHD on skynewshd
Trump has brought in Millions of new voters
his viewpoints have increased the amount of New Republican Voters.
arista
06-03-2016, 02:45 AM
Hispanic lady shows her support for Donald Trump.
http://rightwise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/trump-witcher.jpg
You can't get a better endorsement than that can you! :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:
Yes Trump has a wide amount of voters
he is special.
arista
06-03-2016, 02:49 AM
Trump won Louisiana this evening in USA
Cruz won 2 other states - predicted.
Trump is still in the Lead
That is exactly why he is winning. The fact that he isnt a politician who will bow down to big business and banks is one of his main campaign issues. Then compare that to how much Hillary embodies the establishment and how much she takes from big banks and big business then you see a Hillary victory is not the sure thing many people think it is.
..yeah, also I was thinking on a personal level, how much he 'goes against'...no, oh 'the perfect family man'/type thing...no thought about any 'skeletons in his cupboard' to come out because they've been out and about, around the block, in OK and Hello and every other which way, he's a warts and all type person that just seems to be on an up and up atm...
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
06-03-2016, 09:24 AM
..yeah, also I was thinking on a personal level, how much he 'goes against'...no, oh 'the perfect family man'/type thing...no thought about any 'skeletons in his cupboard' to come out because they've been out and about, around the block, in OK and Hello and every other which way, he's a warts and all type person that just seems to be on an up and up atm...
Yeah white supremacists are so excited they can't contain themselves. They dicks are chaffed from the amount of masturbating they do over pics of Trump. They can't wait for him to put in laws where it's legal to terrorise someone you suspect of being illegal with their big "hunting" guns and where hanging people that don't look like them is acceptable again. David Duke can't contain himself.
Kizzy
06-03-2016, 09:50 AM
Yeah white supremacists are so excited they can't contain themselves. They dicks are chaffed from the amount of masturbating they do over pics of Trump. They can't wait for him to put in laws where it's legal to terrorise someone you suspect of being illegal with their big "hunting" guns and where hanging people that don't look like them is acceptable again. David Duke can't contain himself.
Scary how easy it is for people to succumb to far right ideals isn't it?
kirklancaster
06-03-2016, 10:12 AM
Scary how easy it is for people to succumb to far right ideals isn't it?
What? Like the Far Right Centralised anti-Democratic ideals of the European Union? Yes; you are right, it is scary how easy it is for people to succumb.
Crimson Dynamo
06-03-2016, 10:18 AM
what is scarier is those on the left who sit on their hands in the name of socialism/liberalism and do nothing to address any problem
DemolitionRed
06-03-2016, 10:33 AM
Trump isn't a "pragmatist". He's not a man who deals in reality, he deals in image. He's not concerned with rationally assessing factual situations, getting input from everybody or avoiding burning bridges with unnecessary offence. There's no statesmanship, respect, honour; decorum and definitely no humility from Trump or any of the other GOP candidates in this campaign and this is why, if they carry on the way they are doing; they are just going to snuff themselves out and the democrats will just step over them all and walk into the Oval Office.
As for the American democrats, in any other western democracy they would be right wing. To call the American democrats left wing is laughable.
Kizzy
06-03-2016, 10:33 AM
What? Like the Far Right Centralised anti-Democratic ideals of the European Union? Yes; you are right, it is scary how easy it is for people to succumb.
Once we are out of the EU and our human rights begin to fall away then will all succumb, thanks to people supportive of people like trump.
Crimson Dynamo
06-03-2016, 10:37 AM
Once we are out of the EU and our human rights begin to fall away then will all succumb, thanks to people supportive of people like trump.
Not Kizzy bating for the Agents of Fear:hehe:
Kizzy
06-03-2016, 10:45 AM
Not Kizzy bating for the Agents of Fear:hehe:
The agents of fear? Have you seen what IDS, Gove, BoJo et al the out gang are spouting...The same as they did in the GE , fear with a capital eff! :laugh:
Anyhoo, not gumming up the thread designated for the loon trump with EU chatter.
Crimson Dynamo
06-03-2016, 12:37 PM
The agents of fear? Have you seen what IDS, Gove, BoJo et al the out gang are spouting...The same as they did in the GE , fear with a capital eff! :laugh:
Anyhoo, not gumming up the thread designated for the loon trump with EU chatter.
Dont worry, Donald will keep SD in business all summer :hee:
DemolitionRed
06-03-2016, 12:51 PM
Scary how easy it is for people to succumb to far right ideals isn't it?
The excitement on here about Trump amuses the hell out of me. I mean, what does Trump have to do with British politics?
The one thing we continually heard when Trump first jumped on that campaign stage was about how he was going to build a wall across the Mexican border and stopping all Muslims entering the country. After that we were subjected to many headlines about how Trump flirted with white supremacy.
Most Brits know little to nothing about Trump other than his immigration policies. Most people don't need to know more because Trump isn't a British politician which makes him somewhat irrelevant to us. Some however, started to take a keener interest and they can deny it all they want but they took a keen interest because when he came out of that political birth canal, he was all about dealing with those dirty immigrants. Trump excites a minority noninclusive audience over here, it was inevitable; in fact, when those blonde Katy Hopkins style locks first started showing up on our news channels, I could of taken bets on the types who would support him and types who wouldn't.
Kizzy
06-03-2016, 01:05 PM
The excitement on here about Trump amuses the hell out of me. I mean, what does Trump have to do with British politics?
The one thing we continually heard when Trump first jumped on that campaign stage was about how he was going to build a wall across the Mexican border and stopping all Muslims entering the country. After that we were subjected to many headlines about how Trump flirted with white supremacy.
Most Brits know little to nothing about Trump other than his immigration policies. Most people don't need to know more because Trump isn't a British politician which makes him somewhat irrelevant to us. Some however, started to take a keener interest and they can deny it all they want but they took a keen interest because when he came out of that political birth canal, he was all about dealing with those dirty immigrants. Trump excites a minority noninclusive audience over here, it was inevitable; in fact, when those blonde Katy Hopkins style locks first started showing up on our news channels, I could of taken bets on the types who would support him and types who wouldn't.
Oh I agree, there's not much substance behind the hyped tabloidesque soundbites, reminiscent of UKIP I'd say.
Lots of shouty hand waving, no credible solutions.
Crimson Dynamo
06-03-2016, 01:09 PM
Oh I agree, there's not much substance behind the hyped tabloidesque soundbites, reminiscent of UKIP I'd say.
Lots of shouty hand waving, no credible solutions.
At least UKip address actual problems
rather than pretend they dont exist
*cough* immigration
billy123
06-03-2016, 01:32 PM
I find it really strange to see some people so vehement in their attempts to back trump to the point that they look like cheerleaders. People from the UK that have nothing to gain apart from some warped sense of satisfaction at getting someone widely seen as a racist into power is just weird.
I just dont get it??? unless you are just harbouring racist tendencies how does this benefit you in any way to be his cheerleader?
Could a UK racist explain why they have a hard on for him please?
Im not having a go i just honestly dont get it.
Crimson Dynamo
06-03-2016, 01:38 PM
I find it really strange to see some people so vehement in their attempts to back trump to the point that they look like cheerleaders. People from the UK that have nothing to gain apart from some warped sense of satisfaction at getting someone widely seen as a racist into power is just weird.
I just dont get it??? unless you are just harbouring racist tendencies how does this benefit you in any way to be his cheerleader?
well done Bob you managed to shoehorn racism into a post again whilst at the same time calling any forum member who happens to like trump a racist
:rolleyes:
billy123
06-03-2016, 01:43 PM
well done Bob you managed to shoehorn racism into a post again whilst at the same time calling any forum member who happens to like trump a racist
:rolleyes:
:rolleyes: No answer to the post then just a poor attempt to deflect it? http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/sleep/tired.gif
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
06-03-2016, 01:44 PM
Trump kept a book with Hitlers speeches by the bed according to ex wife
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-used-to-keep-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-according-to-his-ex-wife-a6765391.html
Crimson Dynamo
06-03-2016, 01:45 PM
:rolleyes: No answer to the post then just a poor attempt to deflect it? http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/sleep/tired.gif
yeas, sigh, it was just too difficult...
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
06-03-2016, 01:45 PM
Scary how easy it is for people to succumb to far right ideals isn't it?
Scary yes. Surprising no.
Crimson Dynamo
06-03-2016, 01:47 PM
Trump kept a book with Hitlers speeches by the bed according to ex wife
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-used-to-keep-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-according-to-his-ex-wife-a6765391.html
Nooooo
Now he is interested in military history like millions of others?
stop the world :joker:
Kizzy
06-03-2016, 01:49 PM
At least UKip address actual problems
rather than pretend they dont exist
*cough* immigration
Why are you coughing, if you think immigration is our no1 problem say it, you don't see Mr Trump shying away from his strong beliefs do you?
billy123
06-03-2016, 01:51 PM
Scary yes. Surprising no.The funny thing is they are such cowards that refuse to own up to their beliefs when asked why. They have a tendency to change the subject or just vanish. :joker:
Trump kept a book with Hitlers speeches by the bed according to ex wife
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-used-to-keep-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-according-to-his-ex-wife-a6765391.html
Let's ban all literature, put it on the bonfire with free speech.
Tom4784
06-03-2016, 01:54 PM
Let's ban all literature, put it on the bonfire with free speech.
Bit of a defensive overreaction there.
Johnnyuk123
06-03-2016, 01:55 PM
http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/21f67c7950258e84101603ba819bb6a2.jpg
Crimson Dynamo
06-03-2016, 01:56 PM
Bit of a defensive overreaction there.
hardly
look at the original post
just an attempt at baiting
"trump read a book about Hitler, thus is naturally a Nazi"
I mean its so weak its laughable
Kizzy
06-03-2016, 01:56 PM
Let's ban all literature, put it on the bonfire with free speech.
Oh don't worry all that will be in the bin along with human rights when we leave the EU.
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
06-03-2016, 01:58 PM
Nooooo
Now he is interested in military history like millions of others?
stop the world :joker:
Demolitionred touched on some good points.
As a British youngin, when did you become attracted to Trump's campaign? What attracted you to it?
Kizzy
06-03-2016, 01:58 PM
hardly
look at the original post
just an attempt at baiting
"trump read a book about Hitler, thus is naturally a Nazi"
I mean its so weak its laughable
This is a thread about Donald Trump and that is a news article about Donald Trump... Where is your issue?
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
06-03-2016, 02:02 PM
hardly
look at the original post
just an attempt at baiting
"trump read a book about Hitler, thus is naturally a Nazi"
I mean its so weak its laughable
Assumption, or putting words in people's mouths is laughable.:laugh: But if that's what you get from Trump reading such books then you're entitled to those opinions.
DemolitionRed
06-03-2016, 02:02 PM
Let's ban all literature, put it on the bonfire with free speech.
Talking of free speech, this site is an example of how PC works in your favour. Most general sites, excluding far right ones, would lynch some people in here for their far right views, but in here they have the right to get all offended and hit that protective report button.
Talking of free speech, this site is an example of how PC works in your favour. Most general sites, excluding far right ones, would lynch some people in here for their far right views, but in here they have the right to get all offended and hit that protective report button.
I don't know any member on here that has far right views.
Crimson Dynamo
06-03-2016, 02:09 PM
This is a thread about Donald Trump and that is a news article about Donald Trump... Where is your issue?
Yes but its not the Sun and we are not hacks
Crimson Dynamo
06-03-2016, 02:11 PM
Talking of free speech, this site is an example of how PC works in your favour. Most general sites, excluding far right ones, would lynch some people in here for their far right views, but in here they have the right to get all offended and hit that protective report button.
to which sites do you refer and to what posts show far right leanings?
Kizzy
06-03-2016, 02:25 PM
Yes but its not the Sun and we are not hacks
Would you give it more credence were it the sun?
Crimson Dynamo
06-03-2016, 02:34 PM
Would you give it more credence were it the sun?
I am surprised at the Indie running it, now wonder its closing
DemolitionRed
06-03-2016, 02:58 PM
Trump has often attacked the losers and then everybody wonders why the losers are voting for him. Trump has answered this by shouting out at his rally, "The Mexicans are here raping all your women and the Muslims are here to blow you all up", aww so that's why they are losers, get rid of the Mexicans and Muslims and they won't be losers anymore. Trumps one hell of an expert in the art of scapegoating.
Crimson Dynamo
06-03-2016, 03:03 PM
Trump has often attacked the losers and then everybody wonders why the losers are voting for him. Trump has answered this by shouting out at his rally, "The Mexicans are here raping all your women and the Muslims are here to blow you all up", aww so that's why they are losers, get rid of the Mexicans and Muslims and they won't be losers anymore. Trumps one hell of an expert in the art of scapegoating.
If you are going to put a controversial direct quote in you need to put the link in as well?
so can we get the link to that statement?
Johnnyuk123
06-03-2016, 03:09 PM
This place always reminds me of this Disney song.:joker:
moSFlvxnbgk
DemolitionRed
06-03-2016, 03:19 PM
[QUOTE=Johnnyuk123;8550892]This place always reminds me of this Disney song.:joker:
It would be lovely to get your thoughts and reasons Johnny. Sorry but I don't think I've ever seen you actually debate a topic so I'm being serious here.
Crimson Dynamo
06-03-2016, 03:26 PM
dont forget red you have 2 questions to address
DemolitionRed
06-03-2016, 03:29 PM
Barbara Rez who won the first Apprentice and went on to work for him says this:
"Trump really appeals to people who feel some measure of shame for harbouring prejudices.
He makes them think it’s OK and nobody challenges him."
Johnnyuk123
06-03-2016, 03:32 PM
[QUOTE=Johnnyuk123;8550892]This place always reminds me of this Disney song.:joker:
It would be lovely to get your thoughts and reasons Johnny. Sorry but I don't think I've ever seen you actually debate a topic so I'm being serious here.
All your posts are negative no matter what thread you are in so there is no point in me or anyone on here trying to debate with someone so blinkered and negative. Having a delault setting of being negative doesn't encourage debate at all on any platform, all it does is close it.
DemolitionRed
06-03-2016, 03:35 PM
Donald Trump’s Economic Appeal to Poor Whites
Donald Trump has latched onto a zeitgeist and identity that forms a large part of the fabric of our nation. We’d like to say that this sullied portion of the fabric is the strain of racist and bigoted segregation that we’d hoped America had moved beyond. And while this unfortunate reality is central to Trump’s appeal, the explanation for Trump’s rise is a bit more complex, but equally as troubling and regularly overlooked.
The root connector of Trump’s supporters and the vile ascension of his campaign may reside in the combination of, on the one hand, the antiquated notions of property, status, and class that Americans originally brought with them from the Old World, and on the other, the racist, segregated, and oppressive structures Americans established in the New World.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/10/donald-trump-s-economic-appeal-to-poor-whites.html
DemolitionRed
06-03-2016, 03:47 PM
All your posts are negative no matter what thread you are in so there is no point in me or anyone on here trying to debate with someone so blinkered and negative. Having a delault setting of being negative doesn't encourage debate at all on any platform, all it does is close it.
You mean I don't agree with the posts that you agree with? :joker: negative or not, at least I give people something to debate.
Ah ok, I get it. You see anyone who disagrees with the people you agree with as negative and because the people you agree with are already debating with the people you disagree with, you don't need to add anything other than the odd applaud...for the people you agree with obviously, whilst ignoring the ones you disagree with.
Crimson Dynamo
06-03-2016, 03:54 PM
You mean I don't agree with the posts that you agree with? :joker: negative or not, at least I give people something to debate.
Ah ok, I get it. You see anyone who disagrees with the people you agree with as negative and because the people you agree with are already debating with the people you disagree with, you don't need to add anything other than the odd applaud...for the people you agree with obviously, whilst ignoring the ones you disagree with.
so far you have made 2 posts you cant back up
1. which members are far right
2. link to that quote from DT
not exactly a great record
Johnnyuk123
06-03-2016, 04:01 PM
You mean I don't agree with the posts that you agree with? :joker: negative or not, at least I give people something to debate.
Ah ok, I get it. You see anyone who disagrees with the people you agree with as negative and because the people you agree with are already debating with the people you disagree with, you don't need to add anything other than the odd applaud...for the people you agree with obviously, whilst ignoring the ones you disagree with.
See what i mean...
You always assume what others think (then post it as a matter of fact) and look to the negative first then try to mock the individual rather than respond honestly on what was just posted to you. Something which YOU asked me to do for you. This is a perfect example of how you view others posts on here and more importantly how you respond to them. Yet you wish to debate with others when your post back to me just now shows that you have no interest at all in debating with me or anyone but yet you are very open to insulting others on here. :shrug:
arista
06-03-2016, 04:33 PM
http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/21f67c7950258e84101603ba819bb6a2.jpg
Yes Johnny
Make America Great Again
Rock On
President Trump
billy123
06-03-2016, 04:46 PM
See what i mean...
You always assume what others think (then post it as a matter of fact) and look to the negative first then try to mock the individual rather than respond honestly on what was just posted to you. Something which YOU asked me to do for you. This is a perfect example of how you view others posts on here and more importantly how you respond to them. Yet you wish to debate with others when your post back to me just now shows that you have no interest at all in debating with me or anyone but yet you are very open to insulting others on here. :shrug:
EH :conf: unless you are agreeing with DR that you find anything other than your own point of view as negative then i have absolutely no idea what you are on about. :joker:
DemolitionRed
06-03-2016, 04:51 PM
See what i mean...
You always assume what others think (then post it as a matter of fact) and look to the negative first then try to mock the individual rather than respond honestly on what was just posted to you. Something which YOU asked me to do for you. This is a perfect example of how you view others posts on here and more importantly how you respond to them. Yet you wish to debate with others when your post back to me just now shows that you have no interest at all in debating with me or anyone but yet you are very open to insulting others on here. :shrug:
No, you are assuming that I assume but that's merely your assumption.
I asked you for your opinion and you came back telling me you didn't want to debate with me because I'm so negative. I asked you your thoughts, you gave them to me and those thoughts of yours included direct insults at me.
I wasn't asking you to debate with me, we are on an open forum so whatever you put in here is open for debate by all members. I wasn't asking for a pm of your opinion, I was asking for your public input into a topic that is being shared with half a dozen people.
Now you're suggesting I'm very open to insulting others on here? really...REALLY?!? why haven't I been warned about this? why haven't I had temporary bans? geez man, you must live a sheltered life if you think my words are insulting but its not that is it? I insult you because you don't like the way I think.
kirklancaster
06-03-2016, 06:15 PM
With deference to the universal laws of Supply and Demand - Hate him or Love him, Trump MUST be supplying the type of political solution a lot of Americans are now Demanding. He would NOT be where he is now if that was NOT the case.
As for "Why are Brits on this forum so interested in Trump" or variations on that theme - Hate the USA or Love it, the UK has always had a universally recognised and accepted 'Special Relationship with that country, and it is ridiculous for anyone to question why some of us are 'interested' in someone who may well be running that country as its next President.
kirklancaster
06-03-2016, 06:51 PM
Oh don't worry all that will be in the bin along with human rights when we leave the EU.
Did we NOT have 'Human Rights' BEFORE we were conned into joining the EU?
Or do you mean that insane shambles of a Court The Court of European Rights in Strasbourg and its bewildering laws - so beloved of Foreign Murderers, Rapists, and Terrorists because they afford them a 'STAY OUT OF JAIL FREE' card as well as a 'STAY FREE TO ROAM BRITAIN AND COMMIT FURTHER CRIME INSTEAD OF BEING DEPORTED' card too?
You know - dangerous Anti-UK Islamic Terrorists such as Abu Qatada, who BEYOND DOUBT inspired terrorist attacks on the United Kingdom, but yet CANNOT be deported to stand trial in Jordan because of the 'Human Rights Act'.
And any ONE of the 4,000 Foreign Criminals - including Child Rapists and Murderers who we also cannot DEPORT because of that same Act.
You know - the 4,000 foreign criminals LET LOOSE BACK ONTO BRITISH STREETS - SOME OF THEM TO REOFFEND AGAIN WITHIN WEEKS - by 'Home Secretary' Theresa May in 2013, because of The 'HUMAN RIGHTS ACT'.
The Democratically Elected UK Government WANTED to DEPORT these scum but COULD NOT because of our BRUSSELS OVERLORDS and their HUMAN RIGHTS SHYTE ACT has MORE POWER than our COURTS and OUR GOVERNMENT.
YOU KNOW - THE SAME EU 'HUMAN RIGHTS ACT' WHICH SHELTERS AND PROTECTS FOREIGN SCUM SUCH AS WILLIAM DANGA
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/02/article-2256285-16BB2910000005DC-331_306x987.jpg
IS THIS REALLY THE 'HUMAN RIGHTS' YOU ARE CRYING FOR IF WE EXIT THE ATROCIOUS EU AND REGAIN CONTROL OF OUR OWN LAWS AND JUSTICE?
kirklancaster
06-03-2016, 06:56 PM
talking of free speech, this site is an example of how pc works in your favour. Most general sites, excluding far right ones, would lynch some people in here for their far right views, but in here they have the right to get all offended and hit that protective report button.
No one gets away with breaking forum rules concerning personal insults and baiting, more than those with far left views - of which exclusive club -- you are a member.
Tom4784
06-03-2016, 07:21 PM
With deference to the universal laws of Supply and Demand - Hate him or Love him, Trump MUST be supplying the type of political solution a lot of Americans are now Demanding. He would NOT be where he is now if that was NOT the case.
As for "Why are Brits on this forum so interested in Trump" or variations on that theme - Hate the USA or Love it, the UK has always had a universally recognised and accepted 'Special Relationship with that country, and it is ridiculous for anyone to question why some of us are 'interested' in someone who may well be running that country as its next President.
He's basically doing what the Nazi's did in their rise to power, they created a scapegoat out of the Jews in order to try unite Germany against a common 'threat.' Trump's doing it now but instead of Jews, he's targeting Immigrants and Muslims.
Trump supplies nothing but hot air, he's a failure of a business man who's only as rich as he is because of his family's wealth, it's not self made and he'd certainly be broke without it due to the fact that most of his business ventures have failed. He's a reality star trying to play at being President, everything about him is fake and overemphasised for the cameras, he has no political sense, he's got no sense of diplomacy and he appeals to the lowest common denominator and he is an idiot. I do not understand why anyone would want someone with the intellect of an amoeba to run the most powerful country in the world.
His place is on TV, engaging in manufactored drama with D-list celebs. to elect him would be like electing a Kardashian or a member of Duck Dynasty.
who is it
06-03-2016, 07:23 PM
This donald trump guy looks like some oriental-asian man who has had his hair and face bleached in poisonous acid
what a weirdo
Crimson Dynamo
06-03-2016, 07:49 PM
He's basically doing what the Nazi's did in their rise to power, they created a scapegoat out of the Jews in order to try unite Germany against a common 'threat.' Trump's doing it now but instead of Jews, he's targeting Immigrants and Muslims.
Trump supplies nothing but hot air, he's a failure of a business man who's only as rich as he is because of his family's wealth, it's not self made and he'd certainly be broke without it due to the fact that most of his business ventures have failed. He's a reality star trying to play at being President, everything about him is fake and overemphasised for the cameras, he has no political sense, he's got no sense of diplomacy and he appeals to the lowest common denominator and he is an idiot. I do not understand why anyone would want someone with the intellect of an amoeba to run the most powerful country in the world.
His place is on TV, engaging in manufactored drama with D-list celebs. to elect him would be like electing a Kardashian or a member of Duck Dynasty.
I have watched trump all week and the debate and he never mentions immigrants
"intellect of an amoeba"
well some how he is is both more successful and richer than you will ever dream of
so?
:hehe:
Kizzy
06-03-2016, 08:38 PM
Did we NOT have 'Human Rights' BEFORE we were conned into joining the EU?
Or do you mean that insane shambles of a Court The Court of European Rights in Strasbourg and its bewildering laws - so beloved of Foreign Murderers, Rapists, and Terrorists because they afford them a 'STAY OUT OF JAIL FREE' card as well as a 'STAY FREE TO ROAM BRITAIN AND COMMIT FURTHER CRIME INSTEAD OF BEING DEPORTED' card too?
You know - dangerous Anti-UK Islamic Terrorists such as Abu Qatada, who BEYOND DOUBT inspired terrorist attacks on the United Kingdom, but yet CANNOT be deported to stand trial in Jordan because of the 'Human Rights Act'.
And any ONE of the 4,000 Foreign Criminals - including Child Rapists and Murderers who we also cannot DEPORT because of that same Act.
You know - the 4,000 foreign criminals LET LOOSE BACK ONTO BRITISH STREETS - SOME OF THEM TO REOFFEND AGAIN WITHIN WEEKS - by 'Home Secretary' Theresa May in 2013, because of The 'HUMAN RIGHTS ACT'.
The Democratically Elected UK Government WANTED to DEPORT these scum but COULD NOT because of our BRUSSELS OVERLORDS and their HUMAN RIGHTS SHYTE ACT has MORE POWER than our COURTS and OUR GOVERNMENT.
YOU KNOW - THE SAME EU 'HUMAN RIGHTS ACT' WHICH SHELTERS AND PROTECTS FOREIGN SCUM SUCH AS WILLIAM DANGA
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/02/article-2256285-16BB2910000005DC-331_306x987.jpg
IS THIS REALLY THE 'HUMAN RIGHTS' YOU ARE CRYING FOR IF WE EXIT THE ATROCIOUS EU AND REGAIN CONTROL OF OUR OWN LAWS AND JUSTICE?
Right, we should scrap the human rights act because people who have already faced justice can't be deported, forgoing all other rights and protections offered within the act for all UK European nationals?
Sorry that idea is a bit crackers.
kirklancaster
06-03-2016, 09:06 PM
Right, we should scrap the human rights act because people who have already faced justice can't be deported, forgoing all other rights and protections offered withing the act for all UK European nationals?
Sorry that idea is a bit crackers.
Your posts become more confused and confusing daily.
I never advocated scrapping the Human Rights Act - It was NOT me but YOU yourself who said that Human Rights would be in the bin when we leave the EU:
Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
"Oh don't worry all that will be in the bin along with human rights when we leave the EU."
The Human Rights Act is a piece of malignant shyte which is all too easily abused by scumbags, and the Court of Human Rights increasingly more bizarre decisions ruling IN FAVOUR of those scumbags, illustrates more than anything else, that the sooner we exit the corrupt EU and restore our own SANE laws and justice, the better.
I notice how you describe the bastards highlighted in my post as "people who have already faced justice" though - "PEOPLE" - REALLY? Fecking scumbag subhuman CHILD RAPISTS are NOT 'People'.
This is MY country as well as yours, and I will fight to my dying day to ensure that it does NOT become the type of country which the insane Extreme Left would have it become.
ISIS are less dangerous than the Extreme Left - in my opinion.
Kizzy
06-03-2016, 10:01 PM
Your posts become more confused and confusing daily.
I never advocated scrapping the Human Rights Act - It was NOT me but YOU yourself who said that Human Rights would be in the bin when we leave the EU:
Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
"Oh don't worry all that will be in the bin along with human rights when we leave the EU."
The Human Rights Act is a piece of malignant shyte which is all too easily abused by scumbags, and the Court of Human Rights increasingly more bizarre decisions ruling IN FAVOUR of those scumbags, illustrates more than anything else, that the sooner we exit the corrupt EU and restore our own SANE laws and justice, the better.
I notice how you describe the bastards highlighted in my post as "people who have already faced justice" though - "PEOPLE" - REALLY? Fecking scumbag subhuman CHILD RAPISTS are NOT 'People'.
This is MY country as well as yours, and I will fight to my dying day to ensure that it does NOT become the type of country which the insane Extreme Left would have it become.
ISIS are less dangerous than the Extreme Left - in my opinion.
Yes it will be in the bin due to people like yourself only equating it with cases such as that, I'm not going to allow you to suggest you feel more strongly about that disgusting crime than I do simply because you disagree with the act of parliament keeping him here. :/
Is it only the extreme left that want the human rights act?... Why are you bleating to me about extreme left?
billy123
06-03-2016, 10:05 PM
This is interesting and gives some insight into his surge in support.
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GiRTh
06-03-2016, 10:09 PM
This is interesting and gives some insight into his surge in support.
67pbr9zYYaA:joker:
...I guess that Trump's the American Dream really...(obviously if it's just ignored, his many financial privileged advantages in life that he had no personal part in..)..we'll just forget those for a moment and say that he's the All American Dream, the very ethos of America and the land of opportunity as all men are created equally etc...well, apart from the Mexicans/Muslims and ethnic minorities etc, they need to know their place really because they're not part of Trump's All American Dream...maybe a few will be part of it actually if they're lucky enough, but only in the very lowest paid of jobs that Donald and his all American Dream Team people need workers who are just so very grateful to them for the privilege and honour of living in America, the land of opportunity...isn't that what made America great and a 'vision' to all of those fresh face immigrants stepping foot for the first time and looking up to the Statue of Liberty, like we see in the movies...the USA, no class system where anyone can achieve, where anyone could become 'a Trump'....none of your bugger off please and we're building a wall...he goes against everything suerely that America has ever stood for/the very ethos that has made it great and the power that it is in the world....
..it's not about jealousy, it's about respect for...I have no interest in the amount of money someone has made in their life, how amazing a business person they are etc...it's about how they treat people, the respect they have for people in the priveledged and 'successful' lives that they lead...I don't want to hear from big executives who work for Donald Trump, telling me how great he is, those with the highest paid jobs in his company...I want to hear from those people who do clean his toilets...(as he's mentioned in the past with Mexican workers..)..the very 'lowest' of his emplyees.and hear what a great employer he is from their mouths... that he respects them equally as he does, his big fat salaried employees....he has no 'success' as a human being at all so far as I'm concerned unless he has success in character, in the person he is, not what his financial achievements are...that imo is what is needed from any potential President of the USA...
..the land of unequal opportunity, the good old United Trumps of America../Donald's world....
joeysteele
07-03-2016, 08:43 AM
He's basically doing what the Nazi's did in their rise to power, they created a scapegoat out of the Jews in order to try unite Germany against a common 'threat.' Trump's doing it now but instead of Jews, he's targeting Immigrants and Muslims.
Trump supplies nothing but hot air, he's a failure of a business man who's only as rich as he is because of his family's wealth, it's not self made and he'd certainly be broke without it due to the fact that most of his business ventures have failed. He's a reality star trying to play at being President, everything about him is fake and overemphasised for the cameras, he has no political sense, he's got no sense of diplomacy and he appeals to the lowest common denominator and he is an idiot. I do not understand why anyone would want someone with the intellect of an amoeba to run the most powerful country in the world.
His place is on TV, engaging in manufactored drama with D-list celebs. to elect him would be like electing a Kardashian or a member of Duck Dynasty.
Excellent post and it sums up just about all I feel as to this individual too.
DemolitionRed
07-03-2016, 08:59 AM
Trump isn't a fascist in the classic sense, but he's certainly not a conservative and I can only imagine the depths of his dislike for the left. He's a man who is comfortable with violence at his rallies, he plays heavily on those he considers his countries enemy as a threat to the nation, his foreign policy is ridiculously patriotic, and he's appealing to national chauvinism.
Trump is using similar tactics the nazis used, and so its no surprise he's being likened to that monster. Is he another Hitler though? when you understand the fundamental principles of fascism, its clear that Trump is as close to fascism as you'll get with a popular movement in the US in 2016.
Crimson Dynamo
07-03-2016, 09:55 AM
Trump isn't a fascist in the classic sense, but he's certainly not a conservative and I can only imagine the depths of his dislike for the left. He's a man who is comfortable with violence at his rallies, he plays heavily on those he considers his countries enemy as a threat to the nation, his foreign policy is ridiculously patriotic, and he's appealing to national chauvinism.
Trump is using similar tactics the nazis used, and so its no surprise he's being likened to that monster. Is he another Hitler though? when you understand the fundamental principles of fascism, its clear that Trump is as close to fascism as you'll get with a popular movement in the US in 2016.
"Trump is using similar tactics the nazis used,"
evidence please
the truth
07-03-2016, 05:54 PM
Trump isn't a fascist in the classic sense, but he's certainly not a conservative and I can only imagine the depths of his dislike for the left. He's a man who is comfortable with violence at his rallies, he plays heavily on those he considers his countries enemy as a threat to the nation, his foreign policy is ridiculously patriotic, and he's appealing to national chauvinism.
Trump is using similar tactics the nazis used, and so its no surprise he's being likened to that monster. Is he another Hitler though? when you understand the fundamental principles of fascism, its clear that Trump is as close to fascism as you'll get with a popular movement in the US in 2016.
I have to report this hateful post:nono:
the truth
07-03-2016, 05:56 PM
Trump has often attacked the losers and then everybody wonders why the losers are voting for him. Trump has answered this by shouting out at his rally, "The Mexicans are here raping all your women and the Muslims are here to blow you all up", aww so that's why they are losers, get rid of the Mexicans and Muslims and they won't be losers anymore. Trumps one hell of an expert in the art of scapegoating.
he never said any of that, youre lying again:nono:
Crimson Dynamo
07-03-2016, 05:58 PM
Red if you can't provide a link no one will believe you anymore
Making g up hateful stuff like that is actually illegal
the truth
07-03-2016, 05:58 PM
Trump isn't a "pragmatist". He's not a man who deals in reality, he deals in image. He's not concerned with rationally assessing factual situations, getting input from everybody or avoiding burning bridges with unnecessary offence. There's no statesmanship, respect, honour; decorum and definitely no humility from Trump or any of the other GOP candidates in this campaign and this is why, if they carry on the way they are doing; they are just going to snuff themselves out and the democrats will just step over them all and walk into the Oval Office.
As for the American democrats, in any other western democracy they would be right wing. To call the American democrats left wing is laughable.
more lies...what about the millions of illegal immigrants? what are you going to do about that? Let me guess like all radical liberals, youd do nothing. even after we see 33000 innocents murdered around the world by terrorists infiltrating endless countries, plus the drugs imports, the crime, and the violence they bring...and yes some illegal immigrants are rapists too.
the truth
07-03-2016, 06:00 PM
Let's ban all literature, put it on the bonfire with free speech.
yes welcome to the world of radical liberalism...where all free speech is banned unless youre abusing a white man lol
DemolitionRed
07-03-2016, 06:16 PM
"Trump is using similar tactics the nazis used,"
evidence please
Fascism, while invariably being far-right and authoritarian in practice, is just as opposed to traditional liberal capitalism as it is to the revolutionary left, and isn't particularly fond of conservatism. It's radical in that it aims to abolish existing hierarchies, but at the same time wants to institute new ones based on merit within rigid ethnic and ideological parameters. It's extremist nationalism where working class struggle and bourgeois sociopolitical prerogatives are pushed to the side so that everyone of the right racial and cultural background can come together behind a romanticized notion of "the people" as manifested in the national leader.
A short history of fascism
Like I said, Trump isn’t a conservative and he’s certainly not left thinking. He’s against liberal capitalism and wants to ditch free market economy for nationalism and this is what makes him close to the above quote.
When I said in my other post that Trump appears to be comfortable with violence at his rallies and he puts huge emphasis on the ‘other’ as a threat to the nation, Hitler did this too. There are similarities.
DemolitionRed
07-03-2016, 06:18 PM
double post
arista
07-03-2016, 06:23 PM
OgUAQ4ZGtgk
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DemolitionRed
07-03-2016, 06:33 PM
Also...
Donald Trump has a copy of Hitler's speeches. There's nothing wrong with that, I also have a copy and although its not something I'd read on the tube, if you want to understand what made Hitler such a successful orator, then its a good book to study.
Trump just like Hitler, adds a lot of animation to his speeches. Also like Hitler, his hands are never still as he communicates his ideas and just like Hitler, his facial expressions are well practised. Trumps charisma, the very thing that excites his followers, is something he likely got out of that book. Hitler is famous for enthralling his audience and there's very few people the world over who can do that. A big part of Hitlers speeches were about making Germany great again and this is something Trump does in virtually every speech he's made.
Like I said before, all the other republicans are at least as bad as Trump, I mean, they all think like him but they're not quite brave enough to say it like it is and they are far too modest to suggest they want to make America great again. Because of the artful way, and I mean that in a complimentary way, that Trump can deliver his speech, that in itself has allowed him to unleash and have accepted, what was formerly unspoken about. If you want a nation on your side, you have to give them something they really want and that's what he's been able to do and he's done it in Hitler style.
The problem with that is, for all those who aren't enamoured with him, they will see his words, his well practised facial expressions; his expressive body language and hand waving and of course his forthright speech as a mirror image of Hitler. Many people are bound to find this disturbing, but once you understand that he's merely taken lessons from one of the best orators in the world, then you can understand why he's got such a huge following.
the truth
07-03-2016, 06:56 PM
Also...
Donald Trump has a copy of Hitler's speeches. There's nothing wrong with that, I also have a copy and although its not something I'd read on the tube, if you want to understand what made Hitler such a successful orator, then its a good book to study.
Trump just like Hitler, adds a lot of animation to his speeches. Also like Hitler, his hands are never still as he communicates his ideas and just like Hitler, his facial expressions are well practised. Trumps charisma, the very thing that excites his followers, is something he likely got out of that book. Hitler is famous for enthralling his audience and there's very few people the world over who can do that. A big part of Hitlers speeches were about making Germany great again and this is something Trump does in virtually every speech he's made.
Like I said before, all the other republicans are at least as bad as Trump, I mean, they all think like him but they're not quite brave enough to say it like it is and they are far too modest to suggest they want to make America great again. Because of the artful way, and I mean that in a complimentary way, that Trump can deliver his speech, that in itself has allowed him to unleash and have accepted, what was formerly unspoken about. If you want a nation on your side, you have to give them something they really want and that's what he's been able to do and he's done it in Hitler style.
The problem with that is, for all those who aren't enamoured with him, they will see his words, his well practised facial expressions; his expressive body language and hand waving and of course his forthright speech as a mirror image of Hitler. Many people are bound to find this disturbing, but once you understand that he's merely taken lessons from one of the best orators in the world, then you can understand why he's got such a huge following.
Don't worry Future generations of neo Nazis will be reading books on your socialist hero tony bliar for inspiration in mass murder and war mongering
DemolitionRed
07-03-2016, 07:01 PM
Don't worry Future generations of neo Nazis will be reading books on your socialist hero tony bliar for inspiration in mass murder and war mongering
Well that little snippet shows how little you know me :joker:
Also...
Donald Trump has a copy of Hitler's speeches. There's nothing wrong with that, I also have a copy and although its not something I'd read on the tube, if you want to understand what made Hitler such a successful orator, then its a good book to study.
Trump just like Hitler, adds a lot of animation to his speeches. Also like Hitler, his hands are never still as he communicates his ideas and just like Hitler, his facial expressions are well practised. Trumps charisma, the very thing that excites his followers, is something he likely got out of that book. Hitler is famous for enthralling his audience and there's very few people the world over who can do that. A big part of Hitlers speeches were about making Germany great again and this is something Trump does in virtually every speech he's made.
Like I said before, all the other republicans are at least as bad as Trump, I mean, they all think like him but they're not quite brave enough to say it like it is and they are far too modest to suggest they want to make America great again. Because of the artful way, and I mean that in a complimentary way, that Trump can deliver his speech, that in itself has allowed him to unleash and have accepted, what was formerly unspoken about. If you want a nation on your side, you have to give them something they really want and that's what he's been able to do and he's done it in Hitler style.
The problem with that is, for all those who aren't enamoured with him, they will see his words, his well practised facial expressions; his expressive body language and hand waving and of course his forthright speech as a mirror image of Hitler. Many people are bound to find this disturbing, but once you understand that he's merely taken lessons from one of the best orators in the world, then you can understand why he's got such a huge following.
Has the great woman been reading Adolf's book too?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/graphics/hitlarymeme.jpg
Kizzy
07-03-2016, 07:08 PM
Maybe she has, maybe that's daves 'big society' too.
the truth
07-03-2016, 07:22 PM
love the hypocrisy of the politics of envy and hate within radical liberals/ socialists and communists.....lets see where their great leaders have gotten them>? an incredible array of war mongering mass murdering depsot dictators , many of whom have killed way more people than even adolf hitler and ALL of them billionaires...from the king jon Korean dynasty, to Mubarak and his 50 billion eqyptian fortune, putin worth 70 odd billion, mao , the biggest mass murderer in history worth billions too, uncle jo stalin, the 2nd biggest killer ever, tony blairs mate ghadaffi was the richest of all worth 200 billion, he was pretty much the richest man in the world , even castro is a billionaire as his country crumbles....makes poor old tony blair with his 1 million dead and his £60 million look like a pauper.....ah socialism and communism fair play its been a worldwide disaster , they always run out of others people money and dictators are always created who take millions and billions for themselves. as the masses starve or get butchered.. But those madcap hardline liberal keep worshipping this insane illogical ideology, it never adds up but they still keep the blind faith lol and they mock religious people for having blind faith lol
DemolitionRed
07-03-2016, 07:26 PM
Well if she hasn't she should. Whilst Hitler was a monster, he knew how to give a very good speech. Apparently he studied and practised those speeches for years prior to giving them, so it may be a bit late for Hillary.
Like I said though, all the republicans are racist bigots.
Like I said though, all the republicans are racist bigots.
Nothing more to add your honour.
Tom4784
07-03-2016, 07:30 PM
Has the great woman been reading Adolf's book too?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/graphics/hitlarymeme.jpg
So your argument is 'Yeah, he sounds a bit of a Nazi BUT SO IS THIS OTHER PERSON WHO IS UNRELATED TO THE THREAD IN QUESTION!'
DemolitionRed
07-03-2016, 08:22 PM
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Never thought I'd agree with anything Boris said!
Cherie
07-03-2016, 08:26 PM
So your argument is 'Yeah, he sounds a bit of a Nazi BUT SO IS THIS OTHER PERSON WHO IS UNRELATED TO THE THREAD IN QUESTION!'
How is Hilary Clinton unrelated to this thread :think:
Crimson Dynamo
07-03-2016, 08:36 PM
OgUAQ4ZGtgk
for Girth
:joker:
GiRTh
07-03-2016, 08:39 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/12186678/Republicans-launch-10-million-in-attack-adverts-in-Florida-against-Donald-Trump.html
The attack ads have started and there will be plenty more before the convention
At the debate a few days ago the moderator Megan Kelly corrected Trump on something he said about Trump University getting an A grade from USA's Better Business Bureau; its last official grade was a D-. I remember when Candy Crowley corrected Mitt Romney in 2012 when he said something completely incorrect about the Benghazi attacks; she was roundly criticized in the press and a few months later resigned. Not much has been said to criticize Megan Kelly.
Crimson Dynamo
07-03-2016, 08:42 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/12186678/Republicans-launch-10-million-in-attack-adverts-in-Florida-against-Donald-Trump.html
The attack ads have started and there will be plenty more before the convention
At the debate a few days ago the moderator Megan Kelly corrected Trump on something he said about Trump University getting an A grade from USA's Better Business Bureau; its last official grade was a D-. I remember when Candy Crowley corrected Mitt Romney in 2012 when he said something completely incorrect about the Benghazi attacks; she was roundly criticized in the press and a few months later resigned. Not much has been said to criticize Megan Kelly.
Would it not have been cheaper to put a credible candidate up against him?
:shrug:
GiRTh
07-03-2016, 08:46 PM
Would it not have been cheaper to put a credible candidate up against him?
:shrug:The candidates are very credible in GOP terms. They take money from big business, don't give a f&&k about their constituents and make sure their rich benefactors get their own way. Its the way its always been done. :pipe:
Crimson Dynamo
07-03-2016, 08:48 PM
The candidates are very credible in GOP terms. They take money from big business, don't give a f&&k about their constituents and make sure their rich benefactors get their own way. Its the way its always been done. :pipe:
no lies spotted
GiRTh
07-03-2016, 08:55 PM
OgUAQ4ZGtgk
for Girth:joker:
GiRTh
07-03-2016, 09:03 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/marco-rubio-pushed-for-immigration-reform-with-conservative-media.html
Marco Rubio meets with Rupert Murdoch, Rush LImbaugh and Roger Ailles in 2012 to try and pass an immigration bill. :facepalm: The guy is an embarrssment to any honest politician. He is as bad a candidate as Trump but he's got the establshment money so gets away with it.
I think people are a bit too focused on Trump to see how evil the other GOP candidates are. Trumps ideas are a bit too wild to be implemented but the other candidates, who are equally abhorrent especially Cruz and Rubio, have been doing their dirty deeds around Washington for a few years.
the truth
07-03-2016, 10:12 PM
Well if she hasn't she should. Whilst Hitler was a monster, he knew how to give a very good speech. Apparently he studied and practised those speeches for years prior to giving them, so it may be a bit late for Hillary.
Like I said though, all the republicans are racist bigots.
not as bigoted as the british labour party
Tom4784
07-03-2016, 10:17 PM
How is Hilary Clinton unrelated to this thread :think:
It's a thread about a Republican nominee winning some states in a Republican primary. Hillary Clinton is a Democrat, it's silly to bring her into this thread at this point, especially when it's just to take a shot at someone for having a different opinion.
Tom4784
07-03-2016, 10:17 PM
not as bigoted as the british labour party
What do they have to do with the US Primaries?
Crimson Dynamo
07-03-2016, 10:18 PM
I think we need a Trump stickie
the truth
07-03-2016, 10:25 PM
What do they have to do with the US Primaries?
more than hitler lol
joeysteele
07-03-2016, 10:31 PM
What do they have to do with the US Primaries?
:fist: Good question,the mind boggles Dezzy,:joker:
Since they have nothing to do do with it at all,it is not even a thread about anything to do with British politics anyway.
Cherie
07-03-2016, 10:41 PM
It's a thread about a Republican nominee winning some states in a Republican primary. Hillary Clinton is a Democrat, it's silly to bring her into this thread at this point, especially when it's just to take a shot at someone for having a different opinion.
Last time I checked Hilary was running as a nominee albeit for a different party, so mentioning her is not wholly unreasonable in the context, as for taking shots at someone with a different opinion there is a lot of it about
the truth
07-03-2016, 10:50 PM
:fist: Good question,the mind boggles Dezzy,:joker:
Since they have nothing to do do with it at all,it is not even a thread about anything to do with British politics anyway.
what has hitler got to do with it?
DemolitionRed
07-03-2016, 11:59 PM
Mexico's president has said his country will not pay for White House hopeful Donald Trump's proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, and likened his "strident tone" to the ascent of dictators like Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/07/mexican-president-pay-trump-wall-hitler-warning.html
GiRTh
08-03-2016, 12:08 AM
Mexico's president has said his country will not pay for White House hopeful Donald Trump's proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, and likened his "strident tone" to the ascent of dictators like Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/07/mexican-president-pay-trump-wall-hitler-warning.htmlThis is one reason I'm not so bothered by Trump and his crazy rhetoric. There is no way on earth Trump can build a wall with a door in it and get the Mexicans to pay for it. He's dreaming.
the truth
08-03-2016, 03:24 AM
This is one reason I'm not so bothered by Trump and his crazy rhetoric. There is no way on earth Trump can build a wall with a door in it and get the Mexicans to pay for it. He's dreaming.
How dare trump try to protect his own people? with stronger border control, what a nutter? Yea letting in 10 million illegal immigrants is perfectly fine, just as our open borders across Europe is working out so brilliantly, not to forget the millions of illegal immigrants, the thousands of terrorists we cant catch and the tens of thousands of innocent people they have murdered, raped, sold drugs to or molested. yes stopping that with stronger borders would be insane? what planet are radical liberals on? INSANE IN THE MEMBRANE
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/marco-rubio-pushed-for-immigration-reform-with-conservative-media.html
Marco Rubio meets with Rupert Murdoch, Rush LImbaugh and Roger Ailles in 2012 to try and pass an immigration bill. :facepalm: The guy is an embarrssment to any honest politician. He is as bad a candidate as Trump but he's got the establshment money so gets away with it.
I think people are a bit too focused on Trump to see how evil the other GOP candidates are. Trumps ideas are a bit too wild to be implemented but the other candidates, who are equally abhorrent especially Cruz and Rubio, have been doing their dirty deeds around Washington for a few years.
...just basically what Girth has said, I think that Trump is succeeding at winning the media campaign, well, media/gossip/controversy has always been his game hasn't it...that's his playground and love him or loathe him, he's always reigned in that playground...if he's being likened to Hitler then I'm thinking that he's probably fine with that, if not loving it...I mean that Hitler chap is a very famous/talked about person, isn't he...yay me, such is my impact that I'm on the same level...lol, lol, lol...I think it's all playing right into his hands and his intentions....he'll build a wall, that'll stir it all up....
...anyways, I've been reading about Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz particularly...Rubio's thoughts and policies are pretty awful, as are those of Cruz, who is described as 'the most hated man in Washington'...a title that Trump has yet to achieve, although I'm sure he's trying his best though in his media savvy game...atm others seem to be slipping right under the radar and possibly real nasty contenders as well...fascinating/American politics...
GiRTh
08-03-2016, 05:46 AM
How dare trump try to protect his own people? with stronger border control, what a nutter? Yea letting in 10 million illegal immigrants is perfectly fine, just as our open borders across Europe is working out so brilliantly, not to forget the millions of illegal immigrants, the thousands of terrorists we cant catch and the tens of thousands of innocent people they have murdered, raped, sold drugs to or molested. yes stopping that with stronger borders would be insane? what planet are radical liberals on? INSANE IN THE MEMBRANE:joker:
If you think he said that to highlight immigration then you've played right into his hands. He said it to make headlines and for no other reason.
Kizzy
08-03-2016, 07:46 AM
Cruz and Rubio are just IDS and Osborne type awful though, Trump is dangerously unfiltered and powerful type awful.
DemolitionRed
08-03-2016, 09:07 AM
This is one reason I'm not so bothered by Trump and his crazy rhetoric. There is no way on earth Trump can build a wall with a door in it and get the Mexicans to pay for it. He's dreaming.
He's putting a door in it :conf: Is that a revolving door or a fire exit? :joker:
DemolitionRed
08-03-2016, 09:16 AM
I think people are a bit too focused on Trump to see how evil the other GOP candidates are. Trumps ideas are a bit too wild to be implemented but the other candidates, who are equally abhorrent especially Cruz and Rubio, have been doing their dirty deeds around Washington for a few years.
I agree with this, they're all as bad as Trump and that includes at least one democrat. Unlike the others though, Trumps sparked attention from those who wouldn't normally vote republican and that's why I'd worry more about him than the other front runners.
joeysteele
08-03-2016, 09:20 AM
what has hitler got to do with it?
If you are totally unable to see the difference as to, in this debate, of comparing, rightly or wrongly, 2 individuals who have tried to or have come to power in strong Nations, as opposed to bringing in a whole party out of pure spite,who have nothing to do with internal USA politics or anything to do with this debate either in fact.
Then really that is your problem and needs no further elaboration from myself,with respect.
This is one reason I'm not so bothered by Trump and his crazy rhetoric. There is no way on earth Trump can build a wall with a door in it and get the Mexicans to pay for it. He's dreaming.
I'm sure the Mexicans will happily pay for the door :hee:
Cherie
08-03-2016, 12:23 PM
I'm sure the Mexicans will happily pay for the door :hee:
:laugh:
Cruz and Rubio are just IDS and Osborne type awful though, Trump is dangerously unfiltered and powerful type awful.
They could be worse, they could be just like Hitler, like Hillary is.
the truth
08-03-2016, 02:18 PM
If you are totally unable to see the difference as to, in this debate, of comparing, rightly or wrongly, 2 individuals who have tried to or have come to power in strong Nations, as opposed to bringing in a whole party out of pure spite,who have nothing to do with internal USA politics or anything to do with this debate either in fact.
Then really that is your problem and needs no further elaboration from myself,with respect.
Your hitler obsession is disturbing, irrelevant and totally misplaced, its your problem mate, not mine and its a very serious and disturbing problem.
the truth
08-03-2016, 02:19 PM
Cruz and Rubio are just IDS and Osborne type awful though, Trump is dangerously unfiltered and powerful type awful.
That makes no sense
Tom4784
08-03-2016, 03:18 PM
what has hitler got to do with it?
Trump's tactics resemble what the Nazis did to get into power, we've established this already.
arista
08-03-2016, 03:22 PM
Cruz and Rubio are just IDS and Osborne type awful though, Trump is dangerously unfiltered and powerful type awful.
Yes perfect for USA
arista
08-03-2016, 03:26 PM
Trump's tactics resemble what the Nazis did to get into power, we've established this already.
No Way Dezzy
Hitler
never had 24/7 Live HD News
covering his every word
CNBC
gets massive more amounts viewing when
Trump is Live
and they skipped the Ads
to keep the viewers.
Every TV Channel USA wants Trump
Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2016, 03:31 PM
Trump's tactics resemble what the Nazis did to get into power, we've established this already.
er no
we rather showed that up for what it is...
user104658
08-03-2016, 03:51 PM
er no
we rather showed that up for what it is...
Yes; vaguely accurate.
user104658
08-03-2016, 03:53 PM
Hitler
never had 24/7 Live HD News
covering his every word
Indeed. If he had, he would have had to moderate what he was saying. To find slightly different, more media-friendly ways of saying exactly the same things to a mass audience...
:whistle:
arista
09-03-2016, 02:28 AM
Trump Sweeps Mississippi And Michigan
http://news.sky.com/story/1656170/trump-sweeps-mississippi-and-michigan
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2016/3/9/451519/default/v1/gettyimages-514187826-1-736x414.jpg
Rock On President Trump
He spends a Million on a State and Wins
The others spend 51million Dollars and fail.
Reporters Kept
kept talking about Lindsey Graham (Republican Party, who has served as a United States Senator)
Trump said he could get on with him.
But Lindsey has been so Nasty towards him
so Trump can give it back.
What a Guy
Live on All USA News
Johnnyuk123
09-03-2016, 07:10 AM
Well done Donald.
Congratulations on winning two more states! :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
09-03-2016, 07:13 AM
Wow the new KKK leader won Mississipi what a shock! The second most racist state with 11 KKK groups after Texas. :laugh: I bet they can't wait to start burning folks again.
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