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Smithy
17-03-2016, 12:01 PM
theme park operator SeaWorld says it is ending its controversial orca breeding programme.

The decision means the orca whales currently at the parks will be "the last generation", the company said.

SeaWorld, which has 12 parks across the US, has faced heavy criticism over the alleged poor treatment of its captive orcas, also known as killer whales.

The company said the orcas would be likely to die if it released them into the wild.
"For as long as they live, the orcas at SeaWorld will stay in our parks," the company said in a Los Angeles Times op-ed.

SeaWorld has previously announced that it will phase out live orca shows.
Dramatic displays by the whales are the centrepiece of three parks operated by SeaWorld, in California, Florida and Texas.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35829477?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

Great news :clap1:

Mokka
17-03-2016, 12:22 PM
:clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

billy123
17-03-2016, 12:51 PM
Ughh the fact the place even still exists makes me feel sick.
They make these statements but in reality are doing the bare minimum required to make themselves look like are changing the way they operate.
The reality of that statement is that you might be able to see Orca whales perform at the hell hole for another 50 years.

Jack_
17-03-2016, 01:26 PM
Great news, now hopefully people will s t f u about this issue

billy123
17-03-2016, 02:18 PM
Great news, now hopefully people will s t f u about this issueWhat utter nonsense of a comment.
Why on earth should people shut up about it when these animals are still being kept in terrible conditions for the amusement of idiots and are likely to continue to be for up to the next 50 years.

Telling people to s t f u shows a level of arrogance,ignorance and imaturity that beggars belief especially from someone that often trots out their own issues on here and attacks anyone that doesnt agree with them.

Jack_
17-03-2016, 02:32 PM
What utter nonsense of a comment.
Why on earth should people shut up about it when these animals are still being kept in terrible conditions for the amusement of idiots and are likely to continue to be for up to the next 50 years?

Because most of the people who comment on this issue have never actually been to Seaworld itself to see what it's really like, granted I still agree this treatment is unacceptable and I'm glad they're going to put an end to it but the calls for it to be shut down completely are so ridiculously over the top. There are plenty of other things in the parks that are fine as well as good rides that shouldn't go to waste just because some people have watched a film and are crying and screaming about it

By all means campaign for the mistreatment to stop, rightfully so, but 'close Seaworld' nah **** off

Jack_
17-03-2016, 02:33 PM
Telling people to s t f u shows a level of arrogance,ignorance and imaturity that beggars belief especially from someone that often trots out their own issues on here and attacks anyone that doesnt agree with them.

this is hilarious coming from you so I won't dignify it with a response

billy123
17-03-2016, 02:34 PM
this is hilarious coming from you so I won't dignify it with a responseAww bless the stock comment from someone that has no answer. BYE.
I get it you feel embarrassed to have got it so wrong.

Glenn.
17-03-2016, 02:35 PM
Because most of the people who comment on this issue have never actually been to Seaworld itself to see what it's really like, granted I still agree this treatment is unacceptable and I'm glad they're going to put an end to it but the calls for it to be shut down completely are so ridiculously over the top. There are plenty of other things in the parks that are fine as well as good rides that shouldn't go to waste just because some people have watched a film and are crying and screaming about it

By all means campaign for the mistreatment to stop, rightfully so, but 'close Seaworld' nah **** off

This tbh

billy123
17-03-2016, 02:37 PM
By all means campaign for the mistreatment to stop, rightfully so, but 'close Seaworld' nah **** offwho called for it to be shut down in this thread:shrug:

Jack_
17-03-2016, 02:37 PM
Aww bless the stock comment from someone that has no answer. BYE.
I get it you feel embarrassed to have got it so wrong.

And this response is precisely what I meant :joker: thanks for a glorious dose of irony <3

Jack_
17-03-2016, 02:39 PM
who called for it to be shut down in this thread:shrug:

When did I ever mention people on this thread or indeed this forum? I said 'people', there's more people in the world that are commenting on this issue than just people on TiBB

Most of the people who go on about this issue have a) likely never been to Seaworld to see what it's like for themselves and b) don't just campaign for the mistreatment to stop, but for the entire park to be closed down which is ludicrous, and my problem

billy123
17-03-2016, 02:45 PM
When did I ever mention people on this thread or indeed this forum? I said 'people', there's more people in the world that are commenting on this issue than just people on TiBB

Most of the people who go on about this issue have a) likely never been to Seaworld to see what it's like for themselves and b) don't just campaign for the mistreatment to stop, but for the entire park to be closed down which is ludicrous, and my problemOk so no more breeding of Orcas at seaworld but the Orcas still there could continue to be paraded in front of morons for another 50 years and your comment is you hope people S T F U about it :joker:

Well done Jack well done ffs

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Jack_
17-03-2016, 02:47 PM
Ok so no more breeding of Orcas at seaworld but the Orcas still their could continue to be paraded in front of morons for another 50 years and your comment is you hope people S T F U about it :joker:

Well done Jack well done ffs

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Well the two people who posted before you seem to think it's good news, I think surely it's a step in the right direction if nothing else :shrug:

This is precisely my point, people aren't going to be happy until their entire chain of parks are closed permanently, and that is moronic

Glenn.
17-03-2016, 03:16 PM
Ok so no more breeding of Orcas at seaworld but the Orcas still their could continue to be paraded in front of morons for another 50 years and your comment is you hope people S T F U about it :joker:

Well done Jack well done ffs

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They are phasing out the orca shows

billy123
17-03-2016, 03:22 PM
They are phasing out the orca showsYes that is what stopping breeding them in captivity means Glenn.
Phasing out = continuing until they have none left to perform which could be up to 50 years.

Nobody has said that the news in the op isnt good news but until they stop trotting these creatures out to entertain dribbly dickheads then people wont "S T F U" about it and rightly so.

arista
17-03-2016, 03:27 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35829477?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

Great news :clap1:


Yes a Debate on LBC Radio
had a Man Phone in
he said he watched a Docu'
on breeding them.
He was shocked to see
the Mother Orca Crying because they
took away the younger orca's.



That Stinks

arista
17-03-2016, 03:28 PM
Great news, now hopefully people will s t f u about this issue


Yes they will soon.
Valid Point Jack

Northern Monkey
17-03-2016, 03:44 PM
Because most of the people who comment on this issue have never actually been to Seaworld itself to see what it's really like, granted I still agree this treatment is unacceptable and I'm glad they're going to put an end to it but the calls for it to be shut down completely are so ridiculously over the top. There are plenty of other things in the parks that are fine as well as good rides that shouldn't go to waste just because some people have watched a film and are crying and screaming about it

By all means campaign for the mistreatment to stop, rightfully so, but 'close Seaworld' nah **** off:clap1:

Kazanne
17-03-2016, 03:55 PM
What utter nonsense of a comment.
Why on earth should people shut up about it when these animals are still being kept in terrible conditions for the amusement of idiots and are likely to continue to be for up to the next 50 years.

Telling people to s t f u shows a level of arrogance,ignorance and imaturity that beggars belief especially from someone that often trots out their own issues on here and attacks anyone that doesnt agree with them.

Well said Bobnot, it's tragic that these beautiful animals are restrained and taught to do tricks for stupid humans who actually pay to see it, the ones remaining will still suffer.:fist:

Glenn.
17-03-2016, 04:27 PM
It's my understanding that the orcas won't be performing

Jessica.
17-03-2016, 04:38 PM
Good to hear that they're doing the right thing in regards to the orcas. :clap1:

billy123
18-03-2016, 08:02 AM
It's my understanding that the orcas won't be performing
They have promised to put an end to the shows by 2019 but the Orcas will still be housed at the park and on display to the public. I feel i was snappy with you earlier in the thread and for that i apologise i was wound up by a really ignorant post in the thread that came before you posted.

Seaworld could still do so much more. They are still ignoring calls to build a large enclosure for them away from the park and in the sea where they might be able to live out their lives in slightly less vile conditions.The misery they have inflicted on these animals and the hundreds of millions of dollars they have made from doing it you would think it is the least they could do.

Seaworld could have a bright future in helping with the preservation of sea life if they do it ethically and still make money while doing it but unfortunately they only seem to see the profit margins.

Glenn.
18-03-2016, 09:55 AM
They have promised to put an end to the shows by 2019 but the Orcas will still be housed at the park and on display to the public. I feel i was snappy with you earlier in the thread and for that i apologise i was wound up by a really ignorant post in the thread that came before you posted.

Seaworld could still do so much more. They are still ignoring calls to build a large enclosure for them away from the park and in the sea where they might be able to live out their lives in slightly less vile conditions.The misery they have inflicted on these animals and the hundreds of millions of dollars they have made from doing it you would think it is the least they could do.

Seaworld could have a bright future in helping with the preservation of sea life if they do it ethically and still make money while doing it but unfortunately they only seem to see the profit margins.

I'm all for the enclosures in the ocean but the sad fact is they just wouldn't survive in them.

Niamh.
18-03-2016, 10:10 AM
Because most of the people who comment on this issue have never actually been to Seaworld itself to see what it's really like, granted I still agree this treatment is unacceptable and I'm glad they're going to put an end to it but the calls for it to be shut down completely are so ridiculously over the top. There are plenty of other things in the parks that are fine as well as good rides that shouldn't go to waste just because some people have watched a film and are crying and screaming about it

By all means campaign for the mistreatment to stop, rightfully so, but 'close Seaworld' nah **** off

I don't think that's true at all Jack and actually going and supporting a place that does this to Orcas would be ridiculous to anyone who's against Orcas being held and breed in captivity.

billy123
18-03-2016, 10:36 AM
I'm all for the enclosures in the ocean but the sad fact is they just wouldn't survive in them.Yes they would survive.
Im not sure you still really grasp how cash hungry Seaworld are to keep the Orca program alive :shrug:
Only 14 weeks ago they proposed to double the size of the tanks and asked for planning permission (great news you might think) it was suspected though that they were planning to use the increase in space to increase the number of Orcas they hold in captivity so they were granted permission to build the larger tanks on condition they didnt increase the number of Orca whales (they currently have 11) and stopped the transfer of whales to and from the park.
Seaworld stated they plan to sue the coastal commission for trying to impose those conditions.

They have 23 Orcas at present someof them are captive bred and some of them were kidnapped from the wild at a young age.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-seaworld-sue-over-orca-enclosure-20151208-story.html

Niamh.
18-03-2016, 10:43 AM
Even the word "tanks" in relation to where Orcas have to live, sounds horrific to me tbh

Samm
18-03-2016, 07:27 PM
:clap1:

user104658
18-03-2016, 08:10 PM
Even the word "tanks" in relation to where Orcas have to live, sounds horrific to me tbh

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But he's having so mch fn.

Northern Monkey
18-03-2016, 08:23 PM
http://i65.tinypic.com/2j0ijuo.png

But he's having so mch fn.:joker:
Where dafuq d'you find this shiz?

Glenn.
18-03-2016, 08:53 PM
Yes they would survive.
Im not sure you still really grasp how cash hungry Seaworld are to keep the Orca program alive :shrug:
Only 14 weeks ago they proposed to double the size of the tanks and asked for planning permission (great news you might think) it was suspected though that they were planning to use the increase in space to increase the number of Orcas they hold in captivity so they were granted permission to build the larger tanks on condition they didnt increase the number of Orca whales (they currently have 11) and stopped the transfer of whales to and from the park.
Seaworld stated they plan to sue the coastal commission for trying to impose those conditions.

They have 11 Orcas at present 8 of them are captive bred and 3 of them were kidnapped from the wild at a young age.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-seaworld-sue-over-orca-enclosure-20151208-story.html

There isn't an orca program though. That's what they are stopping.

Ammi
19-03-2016, 07:01 AM
..I don't fully understand this because they seem to replacing one kind of killer whale show with another, so still keeping the whales in captivity..only possibly having them more in direct contact with the public while they're so unpredictable because of the cruel conditions they're kept in..?...


In addition to ending its breeding program, SeaWorld is phasing out its signature killer whale theatrical stunt shows and will replace them with "new, inspiring, natural orca encounters" that will focus on "orca enrichment, exercise, and overall health," the group said in a statement. The change will be implemented in its San Diego theme park in 2017 and in its parks in San Antonio and Orlando throughout the next two years. SeaWorld had announced its San Diego plans last year.