AXE Civilian BB and have longer CBB

[elliebrew]

To be honest i wouldn't mind seeing th back of Civilian Big Brother once and for all.

Its been dire since 2010

Last year was completely unwatchable

AXE BB and run two 6 week long CBBs a year and ill be happy

[LukeB]

May as well axe the whole show. No point in having BB without civilian

[elliebrew]

May as well axe the whole show. No point in having BB without civilian

Well there is.

I think the long term fans need to accept that it isn't going to ever go back to being like 2002-2006

Its over.

CBB is the only thing worth watching now

[Denver]

Or or just a suggestion but if you don't like it don't watch?

[Oaker]

BB13 and BB14 were both amazing though and they were only like 2 years ago..?

[elliebrew]

BB13 and BB14 were both amazing though and they were only like 2 years ago..?

13 was as close to liking it as I've been since 2010

14 was HORRIFIC
15 was NASTY and draining
16 was an abortion

[Black Dagger]

No thanks.

It's already bad enough that they force us to swallow two series a year of CBB without axing the thing that made it happen just so we can get a few more weeks of CBB, especially considering how much they struggle for castings as well these days.

[Black Dagger]

And BB13/14 >>> BB11 for a start.

[Glenn.]

I'd rather just go back to one celeb series a year. No need to axe the main show. They just need to stop messing about trying to out twist each series. Go back to the fundamentals that make the show what it was. Simple really.

[Glenn.]

Was BB14 secrets and lies?

[Black Dagger]

It was.

[Alf]

Nobody's forcing you to watch it.

Are they?

[Glenn.]

It was.

My favourite C5 series then :love:

[Daniel.]

2010 was worse than any C5 season apart from 2011.

[Oaker]

2010 was worse than any C5 season apart from 2011.

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[Niamh.]

2010 was worse than any C5 season apart from 2011.

It was waaaay worse than 2011, by miles in fact

[elliebrew]

Nobody's forcing you to watch it.

Are they?

I LOATHE this response.

Ive loved BB since the beginning so don't use that cliched/cookie cutter come back on me

[Greg!]

Or they could just make it good again by having entertaining housemates, not relying on shįt tasks for dramz, and not meddling with nominations every single week.

[Maxxie.]

Well, it would be against all the odds but it is always possible for regular BB to bounce back because from 2011-2013 BB and CBB were both in the same boat and for 13 years they were always considered the same show "do you watch Big Brother?" when you're referring to cbb4. But then, CBB bounced back in Jim Davidson's series and kept that streak running, it's never had a bad series since. Also you may have noticed they know say "do you watch celebrity big brother?" when reffering to cbb13/15/17.

It took 5 c5 series of cbb before they suddenly got it right and BB is about to start it's 6th c5 series so it's really make or break (even more). If it starts getting ratings for highlights shows and/or the final that is better than the launch, that is when we know c5 have got it right.

[zakman440]

I'd rather just go back to one celeb series a year. No need to axe the main show. They just need to stop messing about trying to out twist each series. Go back to the fundamentals that make the show what it was. Simple really.

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[RichardG]

If they screw up this year's civ BB then idc if they axe it but don't make cbb longer pls

[Pete.]

I don't think they should axe BB because it's clear that we are not going to get BB6 again but I'd must prefer a civilian BB with people who want to be there than with an extended CBB with loads of celebs quitting because its too long.

[Mokka]

Well there is.

I think the long term fans need to accept that it isn't going to ever go back to being like 2002-2006

Its over.

CBB is the only thing worth watching now

But if there is room for a new BB franchise in Canada to start in the last 4 years... with civilians... and be successful, then why can't a UK civilian series be successful again.

UK producers just need to start taking notes on what is working in other BB markets at their annual BB convention imo.

[Mystic Mock]

May as well axe the whole show. No point in having BB without civilian

This considering the Civilian series is the main reason why the Celeb series pulls in so much of an audience in the first place.

[Mystic Mock]

It was waaaay worse than 2011, by miles in fact

Wasn't 2011 BB12?:umm2:

At least BB11 had big characters like Ben, Govan, Sunshine, Shabby, John James, and Josie, love them or hate them they all offered something to the series.

BB12 had Aaron that lasted long enough to contribute anything to the series, but that was about it.

[Niamh.]

Wasn't 2011 BB12?:umm2:

At least BB11 had big characters like Ben, Govan, Sunshine, Shabby, John James, and Josie, love them or hate them they all offered something to the series.

BB12 had Aaron that lasted long enough to contribute anything to the series, but that was about it.

I hated BB11 with a passion, those HMs you listed were just meh to me, I was totally indifferent to them

[RichardG]

But if there is room for a new BB franchise in Canada to start in the last 4 years... with civilians... and be successful, then why can't a UK civilian series be successful again.

UK producers just need to start taking notes on what is working in other BB markets at their annual BB convention imo.

hmmm but that would require our producers to know how to write, i'm not sure i have that level of confidence in them and their abilities :think:

[Alf]

I LOATHE this response.

Ive loved BB since the beginning so don't use that cliched/cookie cutter come back on me
Why? You stated you want to see the back of it, so don't watch.

Just because you want to see the back of it doesn't mean it should be scrapped, should we all miss out just because you've had enough?

[elliebrew]

Or they could just make it good again by having entertaining housemates, not relying on shįt tasks for dramz, and not meddling with nominations every single week.

NOT meddling in nominations and NOT having twists will not fix it.

It will send it back to the dark ages and literally only the hardcore fans would watch. It would lose a lot of viewers

[Rob!]

BB14 was an amazing series. And tbh there is still a lot of good in the civilian series except that the majority of viewers want a different thing out of it than the hardcores do.

[Pete.]

Wasn't 2011 BB12?:umm2:

At least BB11 had big characters like Ben, Govan, Sunshine, Shabby, John James, and Josie, love them or hate them they all offered something to the series.

BB12 had Aaron that lasted long enough to contribute anything to the series, but that was about it.
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[Greg!]

NOT meddling in nominations and NOT having twists will not fix it.

It will send it back to the dark ages and literally only the hardcore fans would watch. It would lose a lot of viewers

Welp who said anything about going back to the dark ages :worry:

I don't mind nominations meddling and twists but when it's every single week and quite clearly rigged it just puts off viewers as we have seen due to the 1million watching now compared to 6million watching in the past.

Plus if they actually picked good housemates they wouldn't have to rely on twists every week to get entertainment

[Mystic Mock]

I hated BB11 with a passion, those HMs you listed were just meh to me, I was totally indifferent to them

Oh I understand as I really disliked John James and Shabby in particular.

But nothing will be worse than a combined lineup that has Louise, Tom, Faye, Jemma, and Jay in there.:yuk:

[Mystic Mock]

hmmm but that would require our producers to know how to write, i'm not sure i have that level of confidence in them and their abilities :think:

Yeah didn't they spell the Diary Room as the Dairy Room during BB14 on Facebook?

[Jason.]

BB17 will make or break BB. They just need a production team overhaul. If BB17 is as bad as BB15/16, then they should just put the show out of its misery, because it's currently at a franchise low atm.

BB13/14 were two brilliant series and like someone else said, they only aired a few years back, so I don't see why they can't produce a decent series in 2016. Especially given the same production team (I think) have managed to produce a decent/fantastic CBB series consistently over the last two years.

[joeysteele]

I like both series, BB and CBB, so I would want them both sustained.

All that is really wrong with BB series now for me is the endless twists and far too much BB interference in events.
I still like to learn about the housemates generally.

[T*]

Or don't

[jyunga]

I wish they'd stop forcing story lines in civilian and just let the game play out without twists.

[Josy]

What a horrendous idea

[BBUKAUSFAN]

If you don't like it don't watch it.
I'm Happy to have both civilian and celebrity, the show is and will always be amazing to me no matter format changed, twists, dire housemates. Its a show that I've grown up watching and I'm not ready to let go yet.

[Mystic Mock]

BB17 will make or break BB. They just need a production team overhaul. If BB17 is as bad as BB15/16, then they should just put the show out of its misery, because it's currently at a franchise low atm.

BB13/14 were two brilliant series and like someone else said, they only aired a few years back, so I don't see why they can't produce a decent series in 2016. Especially given the same production team (I think) have managed to produce a decent/fantastic CBB series consistently over the last two years.

Even CBB17 was **** though as it was just the Stephanie and Gemma show.

[Strictly Jake]

As I have started reading Ben eltons dead famous, please no one tell me what happens, I really really really want a back to basics series