Why do people on here support being in the EU?

[Liberty4eva]

I am kind of surprised that people can tolerate being bossed around by Brussels. Get out while you can! :nono:

[hijaxers]

I'm for getting out and no one will be changing my mind.

[_Tom_]

I'm for getting out and no one will be changing my mind.

Hear, hear :clap1:

[Firewire]

Because the arguments for staying are too strong to persuade me otherwise

But we're all entitled to our opinions which is why there's a referendum :spin2:

[Cherie]

It's interesting that most of the voters who want out are those who remember the UK before it joined the EEC

[bots]

It's interesting that most of the voters who want out are those who remember the UK before it joined the EEC

I remember it well, and they weren't exactly good old days :laugh: If we go far enough back we have Harold Wilson having to go cap in hand to the IMF for money, and they dictated the terms under which our country would do business.

We had people moaning about immigrants then too .... and the EU wasnt even dreamt of then. We were also paying off loans for WW2 from our special friend the USA .... no quarter is given when money is involved. Lets be clear on that. If we are out of the EU .... we will be reliant on others at some point. We always have been throughout our history

[Mystic Mock]

I am kind of surprised that people can tolerate being bossed around by Brussels. Get out while you can! :nono:

If you want us all alone and isolated to be attacked by big giants like Russia then go for it and vote to pull out of the EU.

I personally value having allies and knowing that they're obliged to protect us if we got attacked by bigger nations, and also it's nice to know that we can travel to their countries without having to all the extra bits to live over there.:joker:

[Cherie]

I remember it well, and they weren't exactly good old days :laugh: If we go far enough back we have Harold Wilson having to go cap in hand to the IMF for money, and they dictated the terms under which our country would do business.

We had people moaning about immigrants then too .... and the EU wasnt even dreamt of then. We were also paying off loans for WW2 from our special friend the USA .... no quarter is given when money is involved. Lets be clear on that. If we are out of the EU .... we will be reliant on others at some point. We always have been throughout our history

True, I find it interesting because it's usually the older generations who want to retain the status quo and younger generations are more gung-ho and willing for change, (16 year olds being given the vote in Scotland to help swing a yes vote) like everything the EU has pros and cons, just surprised at the voting trend on here anyway it may not be representative though as TiBB is a law unto itself

[Cherie]

If you want us all alone and isolated to be attacked by big giants like Russia then go for it and vote to pull out of the EU.

I personally value having allies and knowing that they're obliged to protect us if we got attacked by bigger nations, and also it's nice to know that we can travel to their countries without having to all the extra bits to live over there.:joker:

Allies? You mean like how the EU came together over the Syrian refugee crisis, it was every country for themselves :nono: I wouldn't bank on any of the Eurozone helping each other out unless there is something in it for them

[Kizzy]

Allies? You mean like how the EU came together over the Syrian refugee crisis, it was every country for themselves :nono: I wouldn't bank on any of the Eurozone helping each other out unless there is something in it for them

They did come together, they all said *except Germany) (NOBODY MENTION THE WAR!) they don't want any refugees.

[joeysteele]

For me, it is because simply that with all the faults of the EU and there are many, we know where we are and that we can more likely maintain status, success and stability with very little as to any economic or investment uncertainty over the next 2 years or so at least..

I haven't seen or heard anything that convinces me that 'will' be the case if out and the one thing that is certain is that there will be concerns and uncertainties as to investment and the economy if we vote to leave.

I am not prepared to risk that but each must make their own minds up but for me it is 'in'.

[Cherie]

They did come together, they all said *except Germany) (NOBODY MENTION THE WAR!) they don't want any refugees.

They came together months after the crisis started and only because Germany's ridiculous open door policy forced them to, how did Germany think the refuges were going to get to Germany, air drop? Germany as part of the EU had no right to issue an open borders policy when it affected all the countries around them without making provision for refugees to access Germany without having to trudge through other countries whose borders were closed.

[Tom4784]

We'll be in a weaker position if we leave and the deals we had in place will likely be better than anything we'll be able to negotiate if we leave since we'll be negotiating from a weak position. I'd rather keep the status quo then make things worse for a few years with a vague hope that things will get better.

Plus I value those human right laws that EU has in place and I don't want a Tory led government that's free from those laws.

[Livia]

I was all for leaving until Obama flew in and told me how I should be thinking.

[Denver]

Being British comes before being European if I wanted to be told what to do id listen to my mum

[Livia]

Being British comes before being European if I wanted to be told what to do id listen to my mum

Awww your Mum x

Just fell a little bit in love with you, Adam.

[Denver]

Awww your Mum x

Just fell a little bit in love with you, Adam.

I have this effect on everyone :fan:

[Kizzy]

Being British comes before being European if I wanted to be told what to do id listen to my mum

Why wouldn't you listen to your mum?
Mums are ace!!! :fist:

[joeysteele]

Why wouldn't you listen to your mum?
Mums are ace!!! :fist:

Mum's are kizzy.
I've made my own mind up on the EU anyway but I too would take into account my Mum's view and in fact my Dad's too,who are both for in, although they voted out in 1975.

[Tom4784]

I was all for leaving until Obama flew in and told me how I should be thinking.

Being British comes before being European if I wanted to be told what to do id listen to my mum

So you're cutting off your nose to spite your face then.

[Denver]

So you're cutting off your nose to spite your face then.

Im not happy with the rules the EU force upon us so I'm voting out but please explain how that is cutting off my nose to spite my face?

We are all entitled to make a decision and I've made my decision and I couldn't care what people think about my decision because I'm happy with it and will not change it for anybody as I'm a individual and I feel ill be better out of the EU so that's where my vote is going I don't care whether people like it or not as I'm not doing it to make anyone but myself happy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

because if we dont stay in something bad could or may happen say some people

not sure what but well :worry:

[Kizzy]

because if we dont stay in something bad could or may happen say some people

not sure what but well :worry:

Are you attempting to mock people into voting brexit? :/

[Black Dagger]

Because the arguments for the in campaign sound more beneficial from my POV. It really is that simple.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Are you attempting to mock people into voting brexit? :/
no kizzy i am merely pointing out a very tired methodology that both sides tend to use


the Independence debate was riddled with it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Because the arguments for the in campaign sound more beneficial from my POV. It really is that simple.

which 2 specifically?

[billy123]

It is always worth remembering these words from 1918 they are as relevant now as they always have been but still foolish people fall for it.



http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-the-whole-aim-of-practical-politics-is-to-keep-the-populace-alarmed-and-hence-clamorous-to-be-led-h-l-mencken-125762.jpg

That statement rings true to this day.

[_Tom_]

Im not happy with the rules the EU force upon us so I'm voting out but please explain how that is cutting off my nose to spite my face?

We are all entitled to make a decision and I've made my decision and I couldn't care what people think about my decision because I'm happy with it and will not change it for anybody as I'm a individual and I feel ill be better out of the EU so that's where my vote is going I don't care whether people like it or not as I'm not doing it to make anyone but myself happy.

Fantastic post! :clap2:

[Tom4784]

Im not happy with the rules the EU force upon us so I'm voting out but please explain how that is cutting off my nose to spite my face?

We are all entitled to make a decision and I've made my decision and I couldn't care what people think about my decision because I'm happy with it and will not change it for anybody as I'm a individual and I feel ill be better out of the EU so that's where my vote is going I don't care whether people like it or not as I'm not doing it to make anyone but myself happy.

Because of this post.

Being British comes before being European if I wanted to be told what to do id listen to my mum


You made out that you're only voting out because someone told you to stay, thus cutting off your nose to spite your face.

The rest is just irrelevant bluster.

[Mystic Mock]

They came together months after the crisis started and only because Germany's ridiculous open door policy forced them to, how did Germany think the refuges were going to get to Germany, air drop? Germany as part of the EU had no right to issue an open borders policy when it affected all the countries around them without making provision for refugees to access Germany without having to trudge through other countries whose borders were closed.

You do realise that Germany can't just do this without the other EU countries leaders voting to agree with them right?

To blame the refugees thing all on Germany is incredibly unfair, and making a Boogeyman out of them when really they're just one country that helped cause that issue, if you even see it as an issue that is anyway.

[Cherie]

You do realise that Germany can't just do this without the other EU countries leaders voting to agree with them right?

To blame the refugees thing all on Germany is incredibly unfair, and making a Boogeyman out of them when really they're just one country that helped cause that issue, if you even see it as an issue that is anyway.

Do you have a link for that Mock, because every google search I have done comes up with Germany acting alone, just as Merkel acted alone when she promptly closed Germanys borders 24 hours before the EU refugee summit. Germanys actions put other countries like the Island of Lesbos on its knees with the influx.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a60f289a-9362-11e5-bd82-c1fb87bef7af.html#axzz472ZViYbK

[bots]

Do you have a link for that Mock, because every google search I have done comes up with Germany acting alone, just as Merkel acted alone when she promptly closed Germanys borders 24 hours before the EU refugee summit. Germanys actions put other countries like the Island of Lesbos on its knees with the influx.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a60f289a-9362-11e5-bd82-c1fb87bef7af.html#axzz472ZViYbK

The decisions on what countries chose to do with regard to numbers of accepted refugees was entirely up to individual countries. Germany tried to get countries to accept more, most refused.

[Livia]

I'm voting 'out' for no other reason than I've looked at the facts and made a decision, on my own, with no one suggesting what I should think. I imagine most people - both 'in' and 'out' voters - will have done the same thing.

[the truth]

OUT please , the whole project is a disaster and has failed in every conceivable way. The idea it can be reformed is a fantasy. Get out and hopefully others will be inspired to follow us and the norwegians and swiss out of this unelected undemocratic authoritarian dictatorship that will sell us all out to corrupt corporations forever.

[Cherie]

The decisions on what countries chose to do with regard to numbers of accepted refugees was entirely up to individual countries. Germany tried to get countries to accept more, most refused.

When did Germany take over as head of the EU, they have no right to foist their ideals on any one, the open border policy backfired massively which is why they didn't stay open long

[bots]

When did Germany take over as head of the EU, they have no right to foist their ideals on any one, the open border policy backfired massively which is why they didn't stay open long

I think its Merkel's history and experiences from East Germany, it has coloured her thought processes with respect to accepting refugees etc.

[joeysteele]

For the UKs continued economical success which we have had in the EU being maintained and for the unity I see, and would like to see, continued too as EU Nations being together as much as is possible'
They are just 2 of many reasons I will be voting 'in'.

[the truth]

For the UKs continued economical success which we have had in the EU being maintained and for the unity I see, and would like to see, continued too as EU Nations being together as much as is possible'
They are just 2 of many reasons I will be voting 'in'.

the idiotic labour party allowed a net rise of 3.7 million immigration in 10 years, germany decided to use the 7 year rule to ensure immigration was slower over a longer period. the germans need immigration desperately as their population fell 2 million during the same 10 years. yet more facts ignored by the hysterical labour party...one day they will get a crayon set and try and join up the dots of their disastrous time in government.....

heres a start

sucking and covering up to nhs unions lead to complacency overpayments filth and patient abuse

exact same happene to social services and the police

sucking up to political correectness lead to 20,000 children being sexually assaulted in rotherham

sucking up to the republicans lead to illegal wars , which made the terrorist threats a zillion times worse

political correctness lead to millions more of healthy people on bebefits than should have been and encouraged the breed for benefits culture and produced a generation of millions devoid of ambition and wok ethic

womens rights superceded evetrything else, women only shortlists lead to dreadful mps getting in undemocratically

the push for womens rights on everything 24/7 pushed the disabled to the back of the queue too, disabled access for example has stalled for 20 years

this has also lead to the brakdown of the nuclear family and fathers have lost their rights

deregulated their city bankers and share brokers and the entire thing collapsed, no one was arrested

they did less than nothing for the industries and those left behind
they didnt even equip our brave soliders who had to buy kit off the yankee soldiers in the afghan deserts, what a disgrace
they had a spin doctor running the cabinet helping spout lies about weapons of mass distraction
they allowed gp doctors to opt out of working out of hours with an insane contract in 2004
they gave back our rebate to europe for nothing in return, signed an insane 70,000 word eu constitution without even reading it
they spent more hours debating fox hunting than the iraq war

the list goes on and guess what the money ran out....so labour had to pay somehow? ok so they decided they would invent 3000 new laws and infinite stealth taxes to steal the money off the working class....so council taxes rose and all time record levels over £2000 for houses work £250,000 yet the socialists marches in millions when maggie thatcher had poll tax at £90 a year?

they are mostly responsible for the disaster this country is in
they are an insane party

[the truth]

For the UKs continued economical success which we have had in the EU being maintained and for the unity I see, and would like to see, continued too as EU Nations being together as much as is possible'
They are just 2 of many reasons I will be voting 'in'.

unity lol,.....record terrrorism, record bankruptcies, record unemployment, record debts, record pollution, record amount of rules and laws on the working people, record population levels, unity lol united in disaster

[joeysteele]

the idiotic labour party allowed a net rise of 3.7 million immigration in 10 years, germany decided to use the 7 year rule to ensure immigration was slower over a longer period. the germans need immigration desperately as their population fell 2 million during the same 10 years. yet more facts ignored by the hysterical labour party...one day they will get a crayon set and try and join up the dots of their disastrous time in government.....

heres a start

sucking and covering up to nhs unions lead to complacency overpayments filth and patient abuse

exact same happene to social services and the police

sucking up to political correectness lead to 20,000 children being sexually assaulted in rotherham

sucking up to the republicans lead to illegal wars , which made the terrorist threats a zillion times worse

political correctness lead to millions more of healthy people on bebefits than should have been and encouraged the breed for benefits culture and produced a generation of millions devoid of ambition and wok ethic

womens rights superceded evetrything else, women only shortlists lead to dreadful mps getting in undemocratically

the push for womens rights on everything 24/7 pushed the disabled to the back of the queue too, disabled access for example has stalled for 20 years

this has also lead to the brakdown of the nuclear family and fathers have lost their rights

deregulated their city bankers and share brokers and the entire thing collapsed, no one was arrested

they did less than nothing for the industries and those left behind
they didnt even equip our brave soliders who had to buy kit off the yankee soldiers in the afghan deserts, what a disgrace
they had a spin doctor running the cabinet helping spout lies about weapons of mass distraction
they allowed gp doctors to opt out of working out of hours with an insane contract in 2004
they gave back our rebate to europe for nothing in return, signed an insane 70,000 word eu constitution without even reading it
they spent more hours debating fox hunting than the iraq war

the list goes on and guess what the money ran out....so labour had to pay somehow? ok so they decided they would invent 3000 new laws and infinite stealth taxes to steal the money off the working class....so council taxes rose and all time record levels over £2000 for houses work £250,000 yet the socialists marches in millions when maggie thatcher had poll tax at £90 a year?

they are mostly responsible for the disaster this country is in
they are an insane party

We were asked by a member to tell 2 things as to why we want to stay in,
That is what some have done and that is in answer to that question to that member.

What no one needs is more disrespectful lectures from you as to why they hold the stance of voting in or as to the 2 reasons they list.
I,only me personally, think you could maybe try to stop derailing every thread and looking for someone to annoy and argue with just to dismiss all they say as nonsense anyway.
It is getting rather tedious to say the least.

[Tom4784]

the idiotic labour party allowed a net rise of 3.7 million immigration in 10 years, germany decided to use the 7 year rule to ensure immigration was slower over a longer period. the germans need immigration desperately as their population fell 2 million during the same 10 years. yet more facts ignored by the hysterical labour party...one day they will get a crayon set and try and join up the dots of their disastrous time in government.....

heres a start

sucking and covering up to nhs unions lead to complacency overpayments filth and patient abuse

exact same happene to social services and the police

sucking up to political correectness lead to 20,000 children being sexually assaulted in rotherham

sucking up to the republicans lead to illegal wars , which made the terrorist threats a zillion times worse

political correctness lead to millions more of healthy people on bebefits than should have been and encouraged the breed for benefits culture and produced a generation of millions devoid of ambition and wok ethic

womens rights superceded evetrything else, women only shortlists lead to dreadful mps getting in undemocratically

the push for womens rights on everything 24/7 pushed the disabled to the back of the queue too, disabled access for example has stalled for 20 years

this has also lead to the brakdown of the nuclear family and fathers have lost their rights

deregulated their city bankers and share brokers and the entire thing collapsed, no one was arrested

they did less than nothing for the industries and those left behind
they didnt even equip our brave soliders who had to buy kit off the yankee soldiers in the afghan deserts, what a disgrace
they had a spin doctor running the cabinet helping spout lies about weapons of mass distraction
they allowed gp doctors to opt out of working out of hours with an insane contract in 2004
they gave back our rebate to europe for nothing in return, signed an insane 70,000 word eu constitution without even reading it
they spent more hours debating fox hunting than the iraq war

the list goes on and guess what the money ran out....so labour had to pay somehow? ok so they decided they would invent 3000 new laws and infinite stealth taxes to steal the money off the working class....so council taxes rose and all time record levels over £2000 for houses work £250,000 yet the socialists marches in millions when maggie thatcher had poll tax at £90 a year?

they are mostly responsible for the disaster this country is in
they are an insane party

Lol, you can always count on TheTruth's rampant hatred of women to pop up regardless of the topic.

[Scarlett.]

Typical serious debates, a thread asking people why they want to stay in the EU is overrun by pro-independence members, hounding those who believe the opposite to their opinion.

[joeysteele]

When did Germany take over as head of the EU, they have no right to foist their ideals on any one, the open border policy backfired massively which is why they didn't stay open long

Germany does however,especially under Angela Merkel,seem to be the Country to get and have on side to win much as to the EU.
She for sure was a great help with PM David Cameron's negotiations.

[Denver]

Because of this post.




You made out that you're only voting out because someone told you to stay, thus cutting off your nose to spite your face.

The rest is just irrelevant bluster.

Why twist it? You wanted reasons then call it irreverent bluster can you just not accept for once someone maybe just maybe want a different ending to the referendum then you?

I'm sure everyone has weighed up both sides of the arguments and we all have to pick one side but please don't come on the attack because others are voting out when you want in.

[the truth]

Why twist it? You wanted reasons then call it irreverent bluster can you just not accept for once someone maybe just maybe want a different ending to the referendum then you?

I'm sure everyone has weighed up both sides of the arguments and we all have to pick one side but please don't come on the attack because others are voting out when you want in.


totally agree , when dezzy said irrelevant bluster that was phenomenally rude

[the truth]

Lol, you can always count on TheTruth's rampant hatred of women to pop up regardless of the topic.

I know your misandry anti male hate would pick that out and I knew youd ignore the validity of that and all my many other factual points about the dreadful labour government

[reece(:]

I'm sure everyone has weighed up both sides of the arguments and we all have to pick one side but please don't come on the attack because others are voting out when you want in.
This is exactly how you're coming across tho :joker:

[Denver]

This is exactly how you're coming across tho :joker:

Please don't you or anyone come here and tell me why I'm voting because you know ****all about me and have no idea what I'm thinking.

I couldn't care less how I come across but if you or anyone on here think for 1 second I'll change my votes to suit you then your very very wrong a bit of respect for others opinions would not go a miss but then im asking for a lot

[Samm]

Because I wanna be able to travel around Europe without a visa

[reece(:]

Please don't you or anyone come here and tell me why I'm voting because you know ****all about me and have no idea what I'm thinking.

I couldn't care less how I come across but if you or anyone on here think for 1 second I'll change my votes to suit you then your very very wrong a bit of respect for others opinions would not go a miss but then im asking for a lot
You're really not that significant for me to care about where your one vote will be going, simmer down

[reece(:]

Because I wanna be able to travel around Europe without a visa
This is the biggie for me too even know other stuff is more important economically :joker:

[Denver]

You're really not that significant for me to care about where your one vote will be going, simmer down

If I'm not that significant don't pull up my posts because you want a argument.

I think about more realistic things then paying a small visa charge on my next holiday

[reece(:]

If I'm not that significant don't pull up my posts because you want a argument.

I think about more realistic things then paying a small visa charge on my next holiday
The hypocrisy was too much to ignore but stay pressed with mine and Sam's view!

[Samm]

The hypocrisy was too much to ignore but stay pressed with mine and Sam's view!

I thought adam was saying how we should all respect his view, I guess it doesn't work both ways!

[Tom4784]

Why twist it? You wanted reasons then call it irreverent bluster can you just not accept for once someone maybe just maybe want a different ending to the referendum then you?

I'm sure everyone has weighed up both sides of the arguments and we all have to pick one side but please don't come on the attack because others are voting out when you want in.

The only person on the attack is you, I don't care how you vote. I'm just pointing out that your reasoning is flawed.

Literally everything you've accused me of applies more to you than me.

[Denver]

The only person on the attack is you, I don't care how you vote. I'm just pointing out that your reasoning is flawed.

Literally everything you've accused me of applies more to you than me.

Hmm it really doesn't you can't accuse me of one thing then when I give my reasons call them irreverent and keep accusing and I was not the only poster who you did that too

[Denver]

I thought adam was saying how we should all respect his view, I guess it doesn't work both ways!

This is serious Debates after all not serious I don't want to pay for a visa on my next holiday

[bots]

We didn't need a visa to travel anywhere in Europe prior to officially opening up our borders and that's very unlikely to change if we exit Europe

[Cherie]

Because I wanna be able to travel around Europe without a visa

We didn't need a visa to travel anywhere in Europe prior to officially opening up our borders and that's very unlikely to change if we exit Europe


Who said you would need a visa Samm? Do you have a link?

[joeysteele]

Who said you would need a visa Samm? Do you have a link?

It has been asked on many political programmes as to the possibility of needing visas if we were to leave the EU.

We have always been a member of the EU,in fact we helped form the current EU as it is, with all we helped set up and agree to, and then the treaties both our major parties in govt have signed over the last 20+ years.

So what was there before in the very early 70s,way before even the EU was set up in its current form, is all changed.
They could I guess make it that visas are needed if we leave, or it may be as many have said that travel to and from Europe will cost more for the UK in other ways after leaving.

I guess a lot will depend on what all the other EU Nations feel and are prepared to accommodate the UK on,should the UK vote to leave.
Another uncertainty unfortunately.

[Cherie]

It has been asked on many political programmes as to the possibility of needing visas if we were to leave the EU.

We have always been a member of the EU,in fact we helped form the current EU as it is, with all we helped set up and agree to, and then the treaties both our major parties in govt have signed over the last 20+ years.

So what was there before in the very early 70s,way before even the EU was set up in its current form, is all changed.
They could I guess make it that visas are needed if we leave, or it may be as many have said that travel to and from Europe will cost more for the UK in other ways after leaving.

I guess a lot will depend on what all the other EU Nations feel and are prepared to accommodate the UK on,should the UK vote to leave.
Another uncertainty unfortunately.


EU members don't need a visa to travel to Norway or Switzerland so why would the UK be treated differently, you might need to apply to a work visa but not necessarily

[bots]

It has been asked on many political programmes as to the possibility of needing visas if we were to leave the EU.

We have always been a member of the EU,in fact we helped form the current EU as it is, with all we helped set up and agree to, and then the treaties both our major parties in govt have signed over the last 20+ years.

So what was there before in the very early 70s,way before even the EU was set up in its current form, is all changed.
They could I guess make it that visas are needed if we leave, or it may be as many have said that travel to and from Europe will cost more for the UK in other ways after leaving.

I guess a lot will depend on what all the other EU Nations feel and are prepared to accommodate the UK on,should the UK vote to leave.
Another uncertainty unfortunately.

Its a relatively short time since we had the free travel agreement that is in place now ... maybe 15-20 years? Prior to that, there was no visa required.

[Suze]

I'm voting 'out' for no other reason than I've looked at the facts and made a decision, on my own, with no one suggesting what I should think. I imagine most people - both 'in' and 'out' voters - will have done the same thing.

Absolutely Livia.

I shall be voting 'out' also.

[joeysteele]

EU members don't need a visa to travel to Norway or Switzerland so why would the UK be treated differently, you might need to apply to a work visa but not necessarily

However,Norway and Switzerland to trade with the EU also accept and agree to the free movement of EU citizens so that criteria is filled.

I didn't say there would be visas but we are actually talking, (at least some brexit people are), of possibly having visas for certain EU countries if we leave.

So it is not impossible if we don't still accept the free movement of EU citizens that in some way visas 'could' not 'will' be introduced by the EU to us and even from us to the EU or some Nations in the EU.

[Cherie]

However,Norway and Switzerland to trade with the EU also accept and agree to the free movement of EU citizens so that criteria is filled.

I didn't say there would be visas but we are actually talking, (at least some brexit people are), of possibly having visas for certain EU countries if we leave.

So it is not impossible if we don't still accept the free movement of EU citizens that in some way visas 'could' not 'will' be introduced by the EU to us and even from us to the EU or some Nations in the EU.

There isn't total free movement to Norway though if you look at the government website you can travel to Norway for six months but after that there may be some visa requirement, I'd imagine the UK would adopt a similar, just putting it out there that the UK going out doesn't automatically mean no visa less trips

[joeysteele]

There isn't total free movement to Norway though if you look at the government website you can travel to Norway for six months but after that there may be some visa requirement, I'd imagine the UK would adopt a similar, just putting it out there that the UK going out doesn't automatically mean no visa less trips

A lot will depend on what the other 27 EU Nations decide as to their view of the UK walking away from the EU.
Whatever deal we get with the EU will have to be agreed by the remaining 27 Nations.
obviously some will be warmer to the UK than others but a lucrative solid trading deal is not certain and that is the thing for me, we have no idea a this time really what conditions,the EU will want to place on the UK as to trading with them.

It seems even from the out side here, even they cannot tell us what is the actual deal we should be seeking.
Norway and Switzerland have never been in the EU but still have to in part or fully accept free movement of EU citizens.

I know I keep saying this but we helped the formation of the EU as it is now,our govts signed up to the treaties brought forward.
What Nations left in the EU will make of us marching off after doing that and signing up to everything except the euro.
We will not know that until we have left.

The EU will have to put as its first consideration, the wishes and will of all those 27 Nations left,I'd guess fro most of those Nations their priority for sure will not be to fall over and really assist the UK that much,since the UK is the one who will have chosen to walk away after agreeing and signing up to everything except as to joining the euro.

[Beso]

the only thing i want is bendy bananas back so i am voting out,or at least i would if i didn't have to register to vote.