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zakman440
04-05-2016, 07:17 PM
Latest Big Brother Canada evictee Nikki Grahame enjoyed her time on the show so much that she says she wants to bring it to the UK.

Nikki joined the fourth season of Big Brother Canada as an ‘international wildcard’ contestant in a twist, but was voted out by her fellow houseguests on Thursday after eight weeks in the game.

Following her exit, she told fans in a live Facebook Q&A that BBCAN it was a much more gruelling experience than her three prior stints on Big Brother UK thanks to its strategic format, which forces houseguests to compete against each other without public eviction votes.

“It’s totally different reality show,” she said. “To have people nominate you and decide your fate within the house is very very scary. I’d say BBUK is a walk in the park compared to this.”

Despite this, the 34-year-old – who previously said BBCAN “wipes the floor” with BBUK – confirmed that she prefers the Canadian version, saying: “It’s made me so tough and I can take on anything now. I want to bring Big Brother Canada to the UK.”

Nikki added that she’d be up for taking part in a BBCAN ‘All-Stars’ series – “For my fifth appearance in a Big Brother house, why not!” – and that fan favourite Cassandra Shahinfar would be the Canadian she’d pick to enter the BBUK house.

“If I had to choose someone it would probably be Cassandra, just because she’s hilarious,” Nikki commented. “She’d be relentless, great entertainment. Just what the UK would love.”

Although Nikki is no longer playing for the grand prize, she will remain on the show until its finale as a member of the Jury, who are responsible for deciding the winner.

http://www.bbspy.co.uk/bbcan/news/0504/nikki-grahame-says-she-wants-to-bring-big-brother-canada-to-the-uk-after-her-bbcan-4-eviction#ixzz47iSTXm7p

I'm surprised that Channel 5 or a digital channel like TruTV didn't take the opportunity to air it this time round tbh. It would have been the perfect time to introduce the UK to the format with the internationals twist (and certainly would've bumped TruTV's ratings).

zakman440
04-05-2016, 07:17 PM
And a Nikki/Tim All-Stars return is a must :clap1:

Pete.
04-05-2016, 07:19 PM
Despite this, the 34-year-old – who previously said BBCAN “wipes the floor” with BBUK – confirmed that she prefers the Canadian version, saying: “It’s made me so tough and I can take on anything now. I want to bring Big Brother Canada to the UK.”

:clap1:

Jack_
04-05-2016, 07:20 PM
She's right, hope she puts in a good word with the execs :clap1: BBCan is the best in the world and the more BBUK learns from them the better

Jamie89
04-05-2016, 07:26 PM
Here for Cassandra being on bbuk :clap1:

LukeB
04-05-2016, 07:26 PM
I would like this BUT I do not trust the BBUK producers with it.

Lostie!
04-05-2016, 07:29 PM
If she means she wants BBUK to adopt the BBCAN/BBUS format ... no thank you.

If she means she wants BBCAN to be aired in the UK ... would that many people really watch? I doubt it.

RichardG
04-05-2016, 07:31 PM
If she means she wants BBUK to adopt the BBCAN/BBUS format ... no thank you.

If she means she wants BBCAN to be aired in the UK ... would that many people really watch? I doubt it.

Exactly what I was going to post

I enjoy bbcan but I think it's a bit overrated tbh :fan:

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 07:39 PM
So false. She only likes it because they pandered to allowing her on it.
Anything for more minutes of fame.

Jordan.
04-05-2016, 07:50 PM
Keep it

Cal.
04-05-2016, 08:07 PM
Does she mean have a Big Brother Canada UK (lmao) or just air Big Brother Canada here?

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 08:08 PM
Does she mean have a Big Brother Canada UK (lmao) or just air Big Brother Canada here?

She probably doesn't realise she was in another country.

She was probably thinking "Oh, they all speak funny in Cornwall".

Rob!
04-05-2016, 08:08 PM
I have literally no interest in that format but I'd be up for an international housemates twist over here - Priya could make her grand entrance :flutter:

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 08:09 PM
I have literally no interest in that format but I'd be up for an international housemates twist over here - Priya could make her grand entrance :flutter:

WE WANT BEN!!!

Daniel.
04-05-2016, 08:10 PM
You can tell she genuinely enjoyed it so

I don't know why people think because Nikki throws tantrums she's thick, when she's far from it.

zakman440
04-05-2016, 08:10 PM
Does she mean have a Big Brother Canada UK (lmao) or just air Big Brother Canada here?

Probably the latter (that's what I took from it anyway)

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 08:11 PM
You can tell she genuinely enjoyed it so

I don't know why people think because Nikki throws tantrums she's thick, when she's far from it.

Who said it's because she throws tantrums.

She's thick because she's thick.

Cal.
04-05-2016, 08:12 PM
Marsh put your profile faves up I dare youhttp://i.imgur.com/0z2mqUt.gif

Daniel.
04-05-2016, 08:12 PM
Well not really, she had a better vocabulary with regards to big words than most other BB contestants for something.

Ross.
04-05-2016, 08:13 PM
Marsh put your profile faves up I dare youhttp://i.imgur.com/0z2mqUt.gif

:joker:

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 08:13 PM
So you can be predictable and just quote me whilst copying and pasting them? :smug:

Also, I don't really "stan" housemates. Once a series is over, I move on. :hee:

Although kudos for that Jackie gif. What a queen. :hee:

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 08:14 PM
Well not really, she had a better vocabulary with regards to big words than most other BB contestants for something.

Using big words doesn't make you intelligent.

Cal.
04-05-2016, 08:15 PM
So you can be predictable and just quote me whilst copying and pasting them? :smug:

Also, I don't really "stan" housemates. Once a series is over, I move on. :hee:

Although kudos for that Jackie gif. What a queen. :hee:

:)

Did you just confirm Big Brother 2013 (UK): Jackie?

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 08:15 PM
:)

Did you just confirm Big Brother 2013 (UK): Jackie?

Well she wasn't my favourite of that series, but I did enjoy her presence yes. :hee:

Cal.
04-05-2016, 08:16 PM
So if you do have favourites from each series, why don't you put them up? Is it purely so people don't quote them in an argument cos they're tragic?https://33.media.tumblr.com/3d8286455f647766b1cb8062115c9796/tumblr_inline_o2soo5R3lh1tvszw3_500.gif

Daniel.
04-05-2016, 08:17 PM
He likes Eugene, I think that's all we need to know to know Marsh's taste is tragic

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 08:18 PM
So if you do have favourites from each series, why don't you put them up? Is it purely so people don't quote them in an argument cos they're tragic?https://33.media.tumblr.com/3d8286455f647766b1cb8062115c9796/tumblr_inline_o2soo5R3lh1tvszw3_500.gif

No dear. I think it makes your profile look untidy. I've never put them in.

I've also never been bothered about discussing housemates and who I like and don't like so your point is invalid. :hee: I've been involved in enough debates. :hmph:

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 08:19 PM
He likes Eugene, I think that's all we need to know to know Marsh's taste is tragic

Say that again without the gargoyle in your avi.

Cal.
04-05-2016, 08:20 PM
No dear. I think it makes your profile look untidy. I've never put them in.

I've also never been bothered about discussing housemates and who I like and don't like so your point is invalid. :hee: I've been involved in enough debates. :hmph:

STOP with the smilies or I'll report for aggression.

Your profile looks untidy anyway with those two gifs side by side. Awful on the eyes.

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 08:21 PM
STOP with the smilies or I'll report for aggression.

Your profile looks untidy anyway with those two gifs side by side. Awful on the eyes.

The words "Cami-Li" make yours an assault on the senses.

Cal.
04-05-2016, 08:22 PM
Your existence is an assault on the senses

Jason.
04-05-2016, 08:22 PM
I low-key love how Cal mercilessly comes for someone who dares to slate Nikki. True fan :lovedup:

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 08:23 PM
Your existence is an assault on the senses

You love me. Just admit it! http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8e9xwI5h01qcdlamo1_250.gif

LukeB
04-05-2016, 08:27 PM
Nikki is 100% right here, BBCAN wipes the floor with BBUK... The format and the show is more interesting than anything C5 has done. BBUK format these days is terrible, not interesting and dry, if someone says they hate someone and they are this and that, they will be evicted but with BBCAN format the public has no say who goes each week and it's guaranteed drama without the fear of losing them.

TomC
04-05-2016, 08:36 PM
He likes Eugene

This is a sign that anyone should see a doctor.

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 08:41 PM
This is a sign that anyone should see a doctor.

I don't want to hear from you, Kara-Louise.

Jason.
04-05-2016, 08:45 PM
the more important question is does he stan legend Saskia Howard?

TomC
04-05-2016, 08:46 PM
I don't want to hear from you, Kara-Louise.

http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/281x351/13433_1.jpg

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 08:48 PM
the more important question is does he stan legend Saskia Howard?

Me? I loved her as a housemate.

Nasty piece of work as a person though.

*just noticed Tom has Anthony Hutton in his sig too* *faints*

Jason.
04-05-2016, 08:50 PM
Me? I loved her as a housemate.

Nasty piece of work as a person though.

*just noticed Tom has Anthony Hutton in his sig too* *faints*

I'll take it :clap2:

TomC
04-05-2016, 08:51 PM
idg the Anthony hate!

Jamie89
04-05-2016, 08:53 PM
idg the Anthony hate!

I don't hate him, I struggle to have any opinion on him to be honest :laugh: He was such a 'nothing' housemate for me.

Jason.
04-05-2016, 08:54 PM
Tbf in a cast which has the likes of Makosi, Craig, Kinga, Derek, Kemal, and Science, idg why Anthony would be one of the better ones :shame:

Ant.
04-05-2016, 08:57 PM
mess

TomC
04-05-2016, 09:02 PM
Tbf in a cast which has the likes of Makosi, Craig, Kinga, Derek, Kemal, and Science, idg why Anthony would be one of the better ones :shame:

Some HMs are too annoying to be in my favourites list and Science and Craig for me do fall into that category but I am not saying I don't appreciate them as fantastically entertaining HMs.

For me, the winner doesn't have to be the most entertaining/controversial.

Jason.
04-05-2016, 09:04 PM
Some HMs are too annoying to be in my favourites list and Science and Craig for me do fall into that category but I am not saying I don't appreciate them as fantastically entertaining HMs.

For me, the winner doesn't have to be the most entertaining/controversial.

IA with Science being very annoying, though I do like him.

And idm Anthony as a winner. He was the better choice out of the final two, I just think his win (and the final 2) was a disappointing end to a great series. :laugh:

TomC
04-05-2016, 09:06 PM
I can understand that point of view. In such a crazy series, a winner like Ant could be seen as underwhelming.

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 09:22 PM
But what exactly about him puts him into your favourites list? :think:

TomC
04-05-2016, 09:25 PM
He was just a nice guy. And had some good moments! A calm, relateable person in the sea of madness that is BB6.

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 09:26 PM
I definitely see the calm and more "normal" compared to everyone else. But I remember thinking he wasn't that nice of a guy. But I haven't watched the series in years tbh.

TomC
04-05-2016, 09:28 PM
Hmmm I think he was probably one of the nicest people in BB6.

Rob!
04-05-2016, 11:03 PM
Hmmm I think he was probably one of the nicest people in BB6.

He was the only nice person in BB6 :laugh:

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 11:09 PM
Oh shut up Robert.

Vanessa was LOVELY

Jason.
04-05-2016, 11:10 PM
Anthony was probably the nicest person in Team Saskia but I wouldn't say he was the nicest person in BB6.

Sam and Kinga imo were the only two housemates that weren't really malicious or nasty.

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 11:11 PM
Sam was a skank.

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 11:11 PM
You know TiBB has made me such a bitch. :unsure:

LukeB
04-05-2016, 11:12 PM
Mess how a Nikki thread has turned into a Anthony discussion :joker:

Jason.
04-05-2016, 11:12 PM
You know TiBB has made me such a bitch. :unsure:

I love your cynical and blunt posts tbh

Marsh.
04-05-2016, 11:13 PM
I love your cynical and blunt posts tbh

:flutter:

Jason.
04-05-2016, 11:14 PM
Mess how a Nikki thread has turned into a Anthony discussion :joker:

The contrast is astonishing

*mazedsalv**
05-05-2016, 01:42 AM
Yeah I don't get the Anthony hate. He was by far the nicest member of that group... but that doesn't say much.

_Tom_
05-05-2016, 10:25 AM
Yeah they can keep it :idc:

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 11:10 AM
Anthony wasnt nice he was an agressive racist ****

arista
05-05-2016, 11:21 AM
Yes put it on 5* all night long

TomC
05-05-2016, 12:59 PM
Anthony wasnt nice he was an agressive racist ****

Not the racism card. What a crock of ****e.

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 01:01 PM
Hmm if you think calling a bald black guy malteaser head, singing england for the english, and calling a black guy a piece of dirt isnt racist it says more about you

TomC
05-05-2016, 01:07 PM
Hmm if you think calling a bald black guy malteaser head, singing england for the english, and calling a black guy a piece of dirt isnt racist it says more about you

None of those are racist IMHO. And the last one is laughable!

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 01:08 PM
Lol yes they are :umm2: at least i know where you stand now :fan:

TomC
05-05-2016, 01:10 PM
So calling someone a piece of dirt is racist because they're black? The first 2 are open to interpretation, but if you are seriously saying the third on is idk you anymore

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 01:11 PM
Me caring you didnt know me anyway

TomC
05-05-2016, 01:12 PM
Well at least answer my question.

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 01:14 PM
Yes i think thats pretty obviously racist?

And im one of those people who hate pc bull**** going ott but i think the examples ive given are obvious :joker:

TomC
05-05-2016, 01:15 PM
Yes i think thats pretty obviously racist?

And im one of those people who hate pc bull**** going ott but i think the examples ive given are obvious :joker:

Explain how that's racist? The word 'dirt' has absolutely no racist connotations. Because dirt is brown?:conf:

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 01:16 PM
Its pretty obvious how its seen as racist, yeah?

TomC
05-05-2016, 01:17 PM
It's not hence why I'm asking. Honestly, that is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard today.

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 01:18 PM
Me caring

TomC
05-05-2016, 01:19 PM
Real mature.

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 01:20 PM
Back on topic :)

TomC
05-05-2016, 01:21 PM
Well you can't even justify your opinion

TomC
05-05-2016, 01:21 PM
I just think it's out of order to call someone racist over something like that.

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 01:22 PM
Its simple, those things are racist to me. They aren't to you. Fine.

Btw anthony was still an aggressive **** racist or not and was one of the more horrible people in the cast

Josiah.
05-05-2016, 01:48 PM
Hello? People... for the love of BB, please get back on topic.

TomC
05-05-2016, 03:41 PM
what aggression?

Babayaro.
05-05-2016, 03:53 PM
Calling someone a piece of dirt isn't racist lmao :joker:

And as stupid as the malteaser head comment was, I don't really think it was racist too. So much reaching

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 03:54 PM
Anthony called our Science a piece of dirt, a true racist

http://i.imgur.com/jqMZHae.jpg

reece(:
05-05-2016, 03:56 PM
It has racist connotations

http://i.imgur.com/jqMZHae.jpg

Headie
05-05-2016, 04:02 PM
Calling a black man "Malteser Head" is racist and that's that on that.
http://i.imgur.com/rJTEJu5.gif

TomC
05-05-2016, 04:02 PM
Calling someone a piece of dirt isn't racist lmao :joker:

And as stupid as the malteaser head comment was, I don't really think it was racist too. So much reaching

Thank you!

*mazedsalv**
05-05-2016, 04:30 PM
Hmm if you think calling a bald black guy malteaser head, singing england for the english, and calling a black guy a piece of dirt isnt racist it says more about you

Then you can call Nikki racist too.

When she mimicked Aisleyne, "bredrin"... "black girl wannabe"

If we really wanted to nitpic

Greg!
05-05-2016, 04:30 PM
Anthony would have been ejected nowadays for the malteser head thing. And quite rightly

*mazedsalv**
05-05-2016, 04:31 PM
And lets be honest, Derek has his fans on here, but he was truly awful towards the women in the house (Orlaith). And what he has supposedly has done outside of the house too.

If we were really going to look into things, a huge majority of HMs could be seen as horrible people

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 04:31 PM
Legend Nikki would never be racist

Chav scum Anthony clearly is

http://i.imgur.com/jqMZHae.jpg

Greg!
05-05-2016, 04:33 PM
And lets be honest, Derek has his fans on here, but he was truly awful towards the women in the house (Orlaith). And what he has supposedly has done outside of the house too.

If we were really going to look into things, a huge majority of HMs could be seen as horrible people

Nnn not the peado rumours

Marsh.
05-05-2016, 05:00 PM
You piece of dirt is a common insult, nothing racist about it at all. :unsure:

Malteser head has more racist connotations but even I'd put that under the same bracket as people calling someone like Phil Mitchell "potato head". People really need to just get over silly things.

TomC
05-05-2016, 05:26 PM
And lets be honest, Derek has his fans on here, but he was truly awful towards the women in the house (Orlaith). And what he has supposedly has done outside of the house too.

If we were really going to look into things, a huge majority of HMs could be seen as horrible people

and he said 'i've been working like a black' and that Science was 'the first black person that made me want to join the SNP'.

Both of them are more potentially offensive than the things Ant said.

TomC
05-05-2016, 05:27 PM
You piece of dirt is a common insult, nothing racist about it at all. :unsure:

Malteser head has more racist connotations but even I'd put that under the same bracket as people calling someone like Phil Mitchell "potato head". People really need to just get over silly things.

my sentiments exactly

Jake.
05-05-2016, 05:34 PM
i swear the same people worship Saskia "people like you have a chip on your shoulder" Howard anyway lmao

TomC
05-05-2016, 05:35 PM
^that's not racist either and I genuinely find it laughable that anyone does...

Jake.
05-05-2016, 05:37 PM
and i can see the connections with "malteser head" being racist but i don't find it different from white bald people being called "egg head" tbh

Headie
05-05-2016, 05:48 PM
Malteser Head is racist because it's an insult that is exclusive to only be used towards black people. Egghead or Potatohead is an insult that could be used to anyone of any race and still be in context, whereas Malteser Head would not be contextual to anyone other than a black person. That's why it's racist imo.

Denver
05-05-2016, 05:51 PM
Someone put the bitch down

Babayaro.
05-05-2016, 05:51 PM
i swear the same people worship Saskia "people like you have a chip on your shoulder" Howard anyway lmao

Ooop

Headie
05-05-2016, 05:52 PM
i swear the same people worship Saskia "people like you have a chip on your shoulder" Howard anyway lmao

Ooop

Hopefully this isn't @ me because I find Saskia just as bad as the rest of her clique :shrug:

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 05:53 PM
If you see my arguments with people, I'm always saying how that was racist so lol

She wasn't a bad person though to be fair

Jason.
05-05-2016, 05:57 PM
I don't see how referring to a black person as 'Malteaser head' is any different to someone referring to an Indian person as 'Poppadom' tbqh.

Jordan.
05-05-2016, 06:01 PM
Making an ignorant comment doesn't make someone racist in me humbled opinion

TomC
05-05-2016, 06:04 PM
If you see my arguments with people, I'm always saying how that was racist

I really have heard it all now... I thought you said you weren't an overly PC-person. Can't people have arguments without being branded words like racist because someone has added 2 and 2 together and gotten 5?

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 06:07 PM
Trust me loov I am NOT a PC person

But I don't think Saskia IS racist, she said one comment, Anthony said several as well as singing England for the English, Do you know what that means?

Jamie89
05-05-2016, 06:07 PM
I don't think 'malteaser head' in itself is racist, because even if it can only be used to describe a black person, that's still not really what racism is. If there's no intent behind it, and the person using it doesn't think they're better than the other person because they're black (or because they have a head that looks like a malteaser), and they're JUST using it as a descriptor (albeit an insulting one) then it isn't racist, it's just an insult. And I think Anthony's stupid enough to say something without considering the possible connotations of it so it's probably safe to assume he wasn't racist (just an idiot).

Jack_
05-05-2016, 06:09 PM
Malteaser head is definitely a racist remark, it may not make someone a racist, but the connotations are still there

TomC
05-05-2016, 06:10 PM
Trust me loov I am NOT a PC person

But I don't think Saskia IS racist, she said one comment, Anthony said several as well as singing England for the English, Do you know what that means?

Do I know what what means?

I don't mind if you're saying Saskia's racist, it's the fact you're saying that comment was racist.

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 06:10 PM
Hmm yeah I think Jack sums it up

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 06:11 PM
Do I know what what means?

I don't mind if you're saying Saskia's racist, it's the fact you're saying that comment was racist.

I'm saying Saskia wasn't racist because she made one comment.

She said "you have a chip on your shoulder like people like you do" surely meaning black people? What else would it mean...

zakman440
05-05-2016, 06:12 PM
Not TIBB being nearly 10 years late to the debate:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=233625

EspeonBB
05-05-2016, 06:12 PM
BBCAN is a better show than BBUK so I support Nikki's endeavours :clap1:

I wouldn't trust the producers not to **** it up tho

Daniel.
05-05-2016, 06:13 PM
Welp zakman's post shows they, as a group. said it a lot, making it worse :worry:

Jamie89
05-05-2016, 06:15 PM
Justice 4 the general discussions thread?

Jack_
05-05-2016, 06:18 PM
Yeah back on topic...

Nikki is 100% right here, BBCAN wipes the floor with BBUK... The format and the show is more interesting than anything C5 has done. BBUK format these days is terrible, not interesting and dry, if someone says they hate someone and they are this and that, they will be evicted but with BBCAN format the public has no say who goes each week and it's guaranteed drama without the fear of losing them.

Every single word of this post is correct :clap1:

Headie
05-05-2016, 06:19 PM
I don't think 'malteaser head' in itself is racist, because even if it can only be used to describe a black person, that's still not really what racism is. If there's no intent behind it, and the person using it doesn't think they're better than the other person because they're black (or because they have a head that looks like a malteaser), and they're JUST using it as a descriptor (albeit an insulting one) then it isn't racist, it's just an insult. And I think Anthony's stupid enough to say something without considering the possible connotations of it so it's probably safe to assume he wasn't racist (just an idiot).

This is so stupid. That's like saying all the slave owners during the slave trade days weren't racist because it's what they were grown accustom to and didn't see themselves as doing anything wrong. The N word was uses as 'a descriptor' during those times - is that not racist then?

So basically something can only be racist if there is nastiness behind it?

Whether Anthony was or wasn't racist, Malteser Head is definitely a racist remark, whether he intended to be racist or not.

EspeonBB
05-05-2016, 06:24 PM
The Queen of Canada didn't deserve to have ha thread derailed like this!

Jason.
05-05-2016, 06:27 PM
The Queen of Canada didn't deserve to have ha thread derailed like this!

I'm not the cause of it this time

Jamie89
05-05-2016, 06:48 PM
This is so stupid. That's like saying all the slave owners during the slave trade days weren't racist because it's what they were grown accustom to and didn't see themselves as doing anything wrong. The N word was uses as 'a descriptor' during those times - is that not racist then?

So basically something can only be racist if there is nastiness behind it?

Whether Anthony was or wasn't racist, Malteser Head is definitely a racist remark, whether he intended to be racist or not.

I don't think it's comparable to the slave trade or the N word tbh (for like a million reasons, but one being that the slave owners may have been accustomed to it but they still treated black people as less than them which is why they were racist, and the N word is obviously different and a racist word because of it's history (which isn't applicable to 'malteaser head') but even so, yes it can be used in a non-racist way, e.g. rappers etc. So all I'm saying is that the person's intent should be considered instead of automatically labeling someone as racist purely on something they've said (this whole thing only started because it was suggested that Anthony was a racist for saying it.)

Headie
05-05-2016, 07:05 PM
Ok but calling someone "Malteser Head" is treating someone as less than you - it's making out that the person is worse than you for being a "Malteser Head", which is an insult only applicable to black people anyway? :shrug: He clearly wasn't saying it as anything other than to be nasty - and going by your philosophy it's only racist if you intend to be nasty, which he did.

Jamie89
05-05-2016, 07:23 PM
Ok but calling someone "Malteser Head" is treating someone as less than you - it's making out that the person is worse than you for being a "Malteser Head", which is an insult only applicable to black people anyway? :shrug: He clearly wasn't saying it as anything other than to be nasty - and going by your philosophy it's only racist if you intend to be nasty, which he did.

It's not about 'intent to be nasty', it's about 'intent to be racist', ie, have an actual belief that you're better than someone else because they're black. That's not my philosophy, that's just what racism is. And I don't think that using the term 'malteaser head' is enough to show that he views himself as better than black people, or for him to be judged as racist because of it. I honestly think stuff like this diminishes real racism when it happens. It was just a silly meaningless comment.

Headie
05-05-2016, 07:48 PM
^But you're focusing on him as a person, not the comment. Of course he probably isn't racist - he had sex with Makosi in the jacuzzi and she was black

There's no denying however that the comment itself was racist, whether that was his intention or not.

*mazedsalv**
05-05-2016, 10:20 PM
and he said 'i've been working like a black' and that Science was 'the first black person that made me want to join the SNP'.

Both of them are more potentially offensive than the things Ant said.

Yep

Jamie89
06-05-2016, 10:18 AM
^But you're focusing on him as a person, not the comment. Of course he probably isn't racist - he had sex with Makosi in the jacuzzi and she was black

There's no denying however that the comment itself was racist, whether that was his intention or not.

Yeah, I do get where you're coming from, and maybe I was wrong to say there's nothing racist in the term at all, it just bothers me a little bit when it's implied that someone is racist whenever a reference is made to someone's skin colour, regardless of what that reference is because with racism especially, there's such huge degrees of it, hence my comments.
(Kind of half bringing it back to Nikki lol...) I was actually rewatching some old BB7 clips last night randomly, and saw Nikki refer to Sam as a 'Man-Beast', and it made me think about this discussion, and how it was something that I'd say is clearly a transphobic comment, but at the same time I don't really consider her to be transphobic. But anyway, that's still not really relevant to the thread so I'll stop derailing now :laugh: (It's all Daniel's fault really... :whistle:)

Oliver_W
06-05-2016, 10:38 AM
I think a BBCan format would give BBUK a whole new leaae of life. Maybe they could keep the public vote though, once POV has been played?

Perched for HMs gushing over their "amazing new lamp from Ikea."

llNicolall
07-05-2016, 09:05 AM
tbh if Big Brother is going to fail there's no choice but to give it a BBUS/BBCAN format maybe with all the old housemates :hee: