Cliff Richard again accused

[arista]

Cliff Richard committed under-age sex offences


[Police pass file alleging Sir Cliff Richard committed under-age sex offences
in the 1980s to prosecutors for decision on whether to charge him ]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3583160/Police-pass-file-prosecutors-allegations-Sir-Cliff-Richard-committed-child-sex-abuse.html#ixzz48HjTWybx

http://news.sky.com/story/1693662/cliff-richard-abuse-allegations-handed-to-cps

[joeysteele]

No, what this means is the Police have an allegation/s against him from one or more individuals, they have not arrested him on the matter but have talked to him.

they have now sent the details of the allegation/s and what Cliff Richard has said, to the CPS, who will look at it and decide if, I stress 'if', there is anything that they could recommend charges on or not.

The CPS may well come back with no action recommended depending on what is in the file.

He has not at this time, been arrested on child sex matters, has not been charged on child sex matters and may well still not have anything to answer to further at all as to the allegation/s.

[user104658]

How to put this delicately...

In my opinion, there are "questions that need answering" when it comes to good ol' Cliff. However, I don't think they will ever be answered, or at least not before his death. He's getting on a bit.

[Crimson Dynamo]

personally bin think its a load of utter bollocks - he has been a star since the 50s

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2016/5/10/464677/default/v1/110516-papers-daily-mirror-1-992x558.jpg

[chuff me dizzy]

http://breakingdownthnews.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/cliff-richard-and-elm-guest-house.html?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=£%7B%22Facebook%22,+%22twitter%22+%22Go ogle%2B%22%7D&utm_source=£%7B%22socialnetwork%22%7D

[chuff me dizzy]

Richards was a regular visitor to Elm House, signing in as Kitty I hope they lock the perv up and throw away the key

[arista]

Chuff is on the War Path

[chuff me dizzy]

Chuff is on the War Path

Far from it, I just like to see justice done for the victims

[arista]

Far from it, I just like to see justice done for the victims


Thats Fair

[chuff me dizzy]

Thats Fair

I find it very unfair when the victims don't get justice ,just because the perpetuator is famous or in another case Drs with friends in high places

[joeysteele]

IF he is guilty of anything,it'll all be ok ,perhaps he is mentally ill, so help will be provided, he can't help it !!!

The operative word indeed being 'if', he has not even been arrested and he hasn't even been charged with anything yet.

A crime has to be proven or that is how the law should work in the UK, it seems innocent until 'proven' guilty is fast becoming an irrelevant part of UK law now,especially as to celebrities.

Such as William Roache who had his name plastered across the papers, then was found unanimously 'not guilty' of all allegations and charges.
While the accusers get no negative publicity whatsoever.

It smells a little to me that now in this compensation filled culture we live, so many celebrities are now facing really way back historic claims of abuse,that we never hear of much of note being brought against ordinary people who have no wealth or celebrity status to get compensation likely from..

[Crimson Dynamo]

agreed, cliff has been a star for over 50 years. Lets see some actual evidence.

[bots]

The police and CPS have to show that they treat allegations seriously and that they are following due process. That's good, but until the CPS decides it merits being taken further, there is no case to answer. We still live in a country where we are innocent until proven guilty, not until the press feels like someone should be guilty for a bit of news.

[Livia]

The police and CPS have to show that they treat allegations seriously and that they are following due process. That's good, but until the CPS decides it merits being taken further, there is no case to answer. We still live in a country where we are innocent until proven guilty, not until the press feels like someone should be guilty for a bit of news.

Post of the week for me.

No more needs saying.

[Amy Jade]

The police and CPS have to show that they treat allegations seriously and that they are following due process. That's good, but until the CPS decides it merits being taken further, there is no case to answer. We still live in a country where we are innocent until proven guilty, not until the press feels like someone should be guilty for a bit of news.

:clap2:

[Black Dagger]

Grandma will be gutted if it's true.

[Tom4784]

There's nothing anyone can really say on the matter until charges are brought forward and evidence is presented.

[arista]

There's nothing anyone can really say on the matter until charges are brought forward and evidence is presented.


Yes Ch5HD Live
said it was one person.
That Police are looking in to.

[joeysteele]

The police and CPS have to show that they treat allegations seriously and that they are following due process. That's good, but until the CPS decides it merits being taken further, there is no case to answer. We still live in a country where we are innocent until proven guilty, not until the press feels like someone should be guilty for a bit of news.

Spot on and well said.

My only other thought being however is that sadly in my view,for many, 'innocent until proven guilty' is no longer the case to a good number in society.

[chuff me dizzy]

https://cigpapers.wordpress.com/2013/04/29/the-elm-guest-house-vip-paedophile-party-list/

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/05/14/00/342170DC00000578-0-image-m-4_1463181125251.jpg
[Cliff Richard seen for the first time since a dossier of sex abuse
allegations emerged claiming he 'molested a boy after roller-skating into a shop' ]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3589900/Cliff-Richard-seen-time-sex-abuse-dossier-emerged.html#ixzz48eATfDl8

has to be proven , of course

[Cherie]

Cliff on roller skates in a shop :unsure:

[lily.]

How to put this delicately...

In my opinion, there are "questions that need answering" when it comes to good ol' Cliff. However, I don't think they will ever be answered, or at least not before his death. He's getting on a bit.

lol. Have to agree with this tbh.

[Vicky.]

Trial by media again I see.

Maybe a couple of compensation hunters..given how successful previous cases have been. Would be better waiting til he died though so he couldn't defend himself.

This will stick, as stuff like this always does. So I hope the police have some kind of actual proof rather than the say so of someone who has miraculously coming forward after 50 years

[Cherie]

Trial by media again I see.

Maybe a couple of compensation hunters..given how successful previous cases have been. Would be better waiting til he died though so he couldn't defend himself.

This will stick, as stuff like this always does. So I hope the police have some kind of actual proof rather than the say so of someone who has miraculously coming forward after 50 years

:clap2:

[zenon]

In my view the CPS are so determined to nail him which is why it's taken so long for a resolution.

[joeysteele]

Trial by media again I see.

Maybe a couple of compensation hunters..given how successful previous cases have been. Would be better waiting til he died though so he couldn't defend himself.

This will stick, as stuff like this always does. So I hope the police have some kind of actual proof rather than the say so of someone who has miraculously coming forward after 50 years

I hate this trial by media,it makes a laughing stock of our justice system because as you say, even if nothing is done as to charges, some will now believe he is guilty of something.

I almost really hope the CPS throw this out, I really do because it smells rather to me.
As do a lot of these 'historic' cases, odd how once compensation may be a part of things, people crawl out the woodwork with claims of abuse.

[the truth]

Is this politically correct with hunt going to be allowed to continue to destroy so many peoples lives or is someone in this country going to grow enough backbone to change the laws on naming and shaming people before any evidence is provided, before any charge is made, before any court case starts,...Furthermore when will the 100s of false accusers start going to prison for many years? Its so far out of balance is frankly insane. This is now taking up over 33% of police budget. Even for pathetically trivial nonsense like dave ele travis touched my bottom 35 years ago? what a load of nonsense. Have you even seen what a horde of fans did to boy bands going back as far as the rolling stones in their hayday.....clothes torn off, police called, don't remember mick jagger pressing charges. this is a money grabbing circus and the fact so many nonsense complaints are investigated devalues and gives less time to the actual serious rapes. Cameron and corbyn haven't got the backbone to deal with this. dave is spineless and Jeremy just loves the attention of the young female voters. pathetic

[user104658]

Doesn't really matter if it's made illegal, truth... These things just get around online anyway. Sure, they can't be printed in the prehistoric paper press, but that matters less and less with each passing year. The younger generations get their news online and a lot of it is word of mouth / twitter / Facebook etc. And if anything... That can easily become a big game of Chinese Whispers if there's nothing published officially to lay out the (approximate) facts.

It's like the utter farce of these celeb injunctions. Just draws more attention and all you have to do is Google to find out what it's all about.

[the truth]

still should be made illegal. stop the witch hunt. get some justice and stop using celebrities and men especially as target practice for money grabbers. concentrate on the actual real serious accusations with some actual serious evidence oh and truth would help too

[Crimson Dynamo]

meanwhile vigilantes are actually catching real paedophiles whilst the police waste time on crap like this