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rk3388
17-12-2016, 08:19 PM
yes, -!: she's only in my signature because she's Asian...x

TO BE CLEAR - I meant you were judging people for liking Rachel and Mari when you have people like Lisa BB10 and Jem BB12 on your signature who have zero redeeming qualities

rk3388
17-12-2016, 08:19 PM
I realize now what it sounds like :joker:

Macie Lightfoot
17-12-2016, 08:26 PM
people like Lisa BB10 and Jem BB12 on your signature who have zero redeeming qualities

are you sure about that hun? (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270062)

MB.
17-12-2016, 09:02 PM
I can't believe Jem Palmer won Millennials vs. Gen X

Firewire
17-12-2016, 09:19 PM
Jem was amazing

Headie
17-12-2016, 09:37 PM
are you sure about that hun? (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270062)

:flutter:

caprimint
17-12-2016, 09:53 PM
What even is a Jem :huh:

Calderyon
17-12-2016, 10:51 PM
BBUK 12 housemate, Fayeīs sister and Aaronīs showmance partner, i think.

I didnīt see the season, so donīt know how she is like. Based on the news that i followed at that time though, she sounded bonkers.

But thatīs enough off-topic from me.

caprimint
17-12-2016, 11:27 PM
BBUK 12 housemate, Fayeīs sister and Aaronīs showmance partner, i think.

I didnīt see the season, so donīt know how she is like. Based on the news that i followed at that time though though, she sounded bonkers.

But thatīs enough off-topic from me.
She was so irrelevant though, I'm guessing people just supported her because she was anti-Aaron. :sleep:

rk3388
17-12-2016, 11:28 PM
are you sure about that hun? (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270062)

I'll give you she had a really great VT :thumbs:

Anyway, I think a lot of people didn't *love* Rachel and Mari, those two just seemed to have more potential than a lot of the bores who coasted by (hence why they are usually upper-middle list)

rk3388
17-12-2016, 11:31 PM
She was so irrelevant though, I'm guessing people just supported her because she was anti-Aaron. :sleep:

x2.

She seemed to be great based on her feisty intro, then went in and was quite the opposite. Words I would use to desribe her are irrelevant and uninteresting

Calderyon
17-12-2016, 11:32 PM
Only things i liked about Mari was that she likes video games and was pretty hot and seemed to be into the game. But she was a disappointment in the end.

LukeB
17-12-2016, 11:34 PM
Only things i liked about Mari was that she likes video games and was pretty hot. But she was a disappointment.

I loved from from the start but I don't think much of her now because she didn't stay long. But video games :love: I might just perch her videos idk.

Calderyon
17-12-2016, 11:39 PM
^ Oh yeah, i forgot she had a channel on Youtube. I might have to check that out.

MB.
17-12-2016, 11:44 PM
Mari's only content on the show was "I'm a millennial who plays video games!", which, while I'm aware isn't her fault (unless she majorly pissed off the editors or is really that one-note in real life), doesn't give much of a scope for potential

LukeB
17-12-2016, 11:47 PM
^ Oh yeah, i forgot she had a channel on Youtube. I might have to check that out.

I think the games she plays are unknown idk never heard of them lol.

caprimint
17-12-2016, 11:51 PM
Mari's only content on the show was "I'm a millennial who plays video games!", which, while I'm aware isn't her fault (unless she majorly pissed off the editors or is really that one-note in real life), doesn't give much of a scope for potential
I think she had the potential to bring entertainment value (coming from someone who didn't even like her...).

She seemed like quite a feisty bitch tbh

LukeB
17-12-2016, 11:52 PM
I'll give you she had a really great VT :thumbs:

Anyway, I think a lot of people didn't *love* Rachel and Mari, those two just seemed to have more potential than a lot of the bores who coasted by (hence why they are usually upper-middle list)

yeah no one loves Rachel and Mari they didn't even stay long so it's probably impossible to fully stan them. Rachel had more potential to be amazing and Lucy was liked when she wasn't really a character.

reece(:
17-12-2016, 11:53 PM
Mari was one of the few with potential out of the pre-mergers

MB.
17-12-2016, 11:58 PM
Well they certainly didn't show us any of it

rk3388
18-12-2016, 12:01 AM
Rachel was giving me Alecia vibes :joker:

Not that likeable but pretty funny and self-unaware, and could have had the potential to make others turn on her and make the watchers feel sorry for her

Macie Lightfoot
18-12-2016, 12:09 AM
Lucy was liked when she wasn't really a character.

I know you have a fetish for young cute azn girls but Lucy was more of a character than Rachel and Mari, even when she existed literally only for one episode.

reece(:
18-12-2016, 12:09 AM
Rachel only got one good scene of her "crazy" personality consisting of about 2 mins iirc.

Macie Lightfoot
18-12-2016, 12:10 AM
Mari's only content on the show was "I'm a millennial who plays video games!", which, while I'm aware isn't her fault (unless she majorly pissed off the editors or is really that one-note in real life), doesn't give much of a scope for potential

I, for one, am glad we escaped Mari's "GETTING VOTED OUT IS LIKE GETTING A GAME OVER" Ponderosa video we were bound to get if she made the jury.

LukeB
18-12-2016, 12:11 AM
I know you have a fetish for young cute azn girls but Lucy was more of a character than Rachel and Mari, even when she existed literally only for one episode.

but she's asian, you have a issue with people liking asians :think:

Macie Lightfoot
18-12-2016, 12:12 AM
Yes, my defense of Lucy in the post you quoted is a clear example of my problem with people liking Asians. What an astute observation.

reece(:
18-12-2016, 12:15 AM
Lucy's hilarious edit > Lucy

MB.
18-12-2016, 12:16 AM
SHHHH!!!! @ at all this Lucy discussion

LukeB
18-12-2016, 12:16 AM
Yes, my defense of Lucy in the post you quoted is a clear example of my problem with people liking Asians. What an astute observation.

wasn't really a good defence was it?

"I know you have a fetish for young cute azn girls" Rachel/Lucy/Mari wasn't even cute :)

it doesn't really matter if people have a asian types aslong as they don't make them superior by letting them get away with everything, so i don't know why you cry about it.

reece(:
18-12-2016, 12:18 AM
http://my.xfinity.com/blogs/tv/files/2016/08/LucyHLead.jpghttp://my.xfinity.com/blogs/tv/files/2016/08/LucyHLead.jpghttp://my.xfinity.com/blogs/tv/files/2016/08/LucyHLead.jpghttp://my.xfinity.com/blogs/tv/files/2016/08/LucyHLead.jpg

MB.
18-12-2016, 12:18 AM
I know very little about Mari outside of Survivor (and in the context of Survivor, now I think about it) but I thought most of her appeal was that she was a good-looking girl gamer?

MB.
18-12-2016, 12:19 AM
http://my.xfinity.com/blogs/tv/files/2016/08/LucyHLead.jpghttp://my.xfinity.com/blogs/tv/files/2016/08/LucyHLead.jpghttp://my.xfinity.com/blogs/tv/files/2016/08/LucyHLead.jpghttp://my.xfinity.com/blogs/tv/files/2016/08/LucyHLead.jpg

The fact that this is her official cast pic :love:

Macie Lightfoot
18-12-2016, 12:21 AM
wasn't really a good defence was it?

"I know you have a fetish for young cute azn girls" Rachel/Lucy/Mari wasn't even cute :)

it doesn't really matter if people have a asian types aslong as they don't make them superior by letting them get away with everything, so i don't know why you cry about it.

There's a huge difference between having types and blindly supporting people bc of their ethnicity.

I know very little about Mari outside of Survivor (and in the context of Survivor, now I think about it) but I thought most of her appeal was that she was a good-looking girl gamer?

I think it's a combo of that and the fan fics people write about her being an amazing player who had so much potential to do well and was a robbed goddess (TM) or something

reece(:
18-12-2016, 12:23 AM
I think it's a combo of that and the fan fics people write about her being an amazing player who had so much potential to do well and was a robbed goddess (TM) or something
She was taken out because she was a strategic threat so there must be some truth to that?

LukeB
18-12-2016, 12:26 AM
There's a huge difference between having types and blindly supporting people bc of their ethnicity.

who even cares, it's peoples types of contestants and if they want to they can, it's not offensive. People have proved they don't always support ethnicity and that's not always the case.

Macie Lightfoot
18-12-2016, 12:28 AM
She was taken out because she was a strategic threat so there must be some truth to that?

It was an excuse used by Michelle to flip the votes bc she didn't want Figgy to go. I would imagine that surviving your first Tribal Council is a prerequisite to actually being considered a strategic threat.

caprimint
18-12-2016, 12:40 AM
I know very little about Mari outside of Survivor (and in the context of Survivor, now I think about it) but I thought most of her appeal was that she was a good-looking girl gamer?
:unsure:

I didn't know anybody saw her in this way.

LukeB
18-12-2016, 12:54 AM
Mari's appeal is that she is asian

no seriously, her appeal is most likely her being a gamer since that's really popular.

MB.
18-12-2016, 12:57 AM
Yeah nobody sees her that way in the slightest

http://i0.wp.com/www.oscarchang.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Mari_8740.jpg

http://media.tumblr.com/20c93783d96852aa01e23b28ff0c6187/tumblr_inline_mtrpiuwgtN1qgylst.jpg

http://www.oscarchang.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Mari_9739.jpg

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=127393729

See also: the fans who can't enjoy her videos without writing fanfic about her getting ****ed by some guy (https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10319294/1/Love-Hangover-MariCorn-Fanfic-Mari-and-Lasercorn)

MB.
18-12-2016, 12:58 AM
(the point being that I wouldn't say she "isn't cute")

JerseyWins
18-12-2016, 04:29 AM
Daaaaaamn... she didn't look like that on the season though.

caprimint
18-12-2016, 10:13 AM
Why would people even care when Figgy exists though

Calderyon
18-12-2016, 12:07 PM
I wouldnīt consider Figgy particularly good looking or hot.

Calderyon
18-12-2016, 12:08 PM
Daaaaaamn... she didn't look like that on the season though.

They hardly ever do during the season.

LukeB
18-12-2016, 01:21 PM
I would say Michelle is the most attractive female this season.

LukeB
18-12-2016, 01:23 PM
But they wasn't any Julia Sokolowski/Andrea Boehlke cute type people this season.
http://www.brantsteele.com/images/survivor/26/andrea.png http://www.brantsteele.net/images/survivor/32/julia.png

Calderyon
18-12-2016, 01:55 PM
Andrea looks more weird than cute tbh. It might be those crazy eyes though.

caprimint
18-12-2016, 04:34 PM
I wouldnīt consider Figgy particularly good looking or hot.
I don't think it was particularly obvious when she was on the island tbh but check out her Insta: https://www.instagram.com/hashtagfiggy

Firewire
18-12-2016, 04:36 PM
I'm catching up and I quite like Jay???

MB.
18-12-2016, 06:19 PM
Yeah Jay's fine

AarynGriesfan
18-12-2016, 07:43 PM
Figgy is cute but Michelle was by far the hottest. The others didn't do much for me.

Raph
18-12-2016, 09:50 PM
End of Episode 6:

1. Ken
2. Adam
3. Hannah
4. Chris
5. Michaela
6. Bret
7. Jessica
8. Michelle
9. Zeke
10. Jay
11. Will
12. Sunday
13. Figgy
14. David
15. Taylor

Also sad to see Lucy go, she had a funny personality :joker: People should stop bashing Luke for liking who he likes though. I for one liked Mari for her friendship with Hannah and how observant she was in her 'Mari the day after' video.

Macie Lightfoot
18-12-2016, 09:57 PM
Her friendship with Hannah was....... not even a thing really lol? Mari was super dismissive of her at TC and Hannah ended up voting her out bc Michelle got in her head.

LukeB
18-12-2016, 09:58 PM
End of Episode 6:

1. Ken
2. Adam
3. Hannah
4. Chris
5. Michaela
6. Bret
7. Jessica
8. Michelle
9. Zeke
10. Jay
11. Will
12. Sunday
13. Figgy
14. David
15. Taylor

Also sad to see Lucy go, she had a funny personality :joker: People should stop bashing Luke for liking who he likes though. I for one liked Mari for her friendship with Hannah and how observant she was in her 'Mari the day after' video.

:love: it's getting really pathetic isn;t it?

Internet bullies don't really bother me.

Macie Lightfoot
18-12-2016, 10:02 PM
who said anything about bullies?

MB.
18-12-2016, 10:15 PM
Imagine calling anyone a bully for not agreeing with you though :unsure:

LukeB
18-12-2016, 10:18 PM
who said anything about bullies?

You do nothing but bully those who you have a issue with, (you mainly do it to Raph) yes people have different opinions but you literally harrass people(you calmed down a bit) - you also have a history of it harassing another member on every forum they were/are on, you do nothing but belittle,patronize and condescend people who you have a issue with,

Raph
18-12-2016, 10:19 PM
You do nothing but bully those who you have a issue with, (you mainly do it to Raph) yes people have different opinions but you literally harrass people(you calmed down a bit) - you also have a history of it harassing another member on every forum they were/are on, you do nothing but belittle,patronize and condescend people who you have a issue with,

Ignore it buddy, either way it won't go away :joker:

Macie Lightfoot
18-12-2016, 10:30 PM
I don't see how me disagreeing or taking issue with someone is equivalent to bullying them. And who is this other member in question?

LukeB
18-12-2016, 10:34 PM
I don't see how me disagreeing or taking issue with someone is equivalent to bullying them. And who is this other member in question?

harassing is some type of bullying and you do more than that and I'm not going to name and shame but history is there.

Black Dagger
18-12-2016, 10:35 PM
I don't want to get too involved because Raph only complains on my wall that I do that I'm friends with horrible people, but he didn't really say anything bad there? </3

LukeB
18-12-2016, 10:36 PM
I don't want to get too involved because Raph only complains on my wall that I do that I'm friends with horrible people, but he didn't really say anything bad there? </3

(i'm talking about past,present and future really not about today/this thread etc,)

MB.
18-12-2016, 10:39 PM
Then why is it relevant to Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X

LukeB
18-12-2016, 10:40 PM
Then why is it relevant to Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X

Why are you getting involved when it doesn't concern you?

MB.
18-12-2016, 10:42 PM
Because this is the sort of thing that should be settled in PM and not an open thread that I'm allowed to post in - I would say that if Troy, you and Raph have an issue (which... well, you do) then you should either sort it out via PM or just ignore one another, but the former's never going to happen and the latter strategy's clearly failed over the years so maybe just act like adults tbh?

LukeB
18-12-2016, 10:45 PM
Because this is the sort of thing that should be settled in PM and not an open thread that I'm allowed to post in - I would say that if Troy, you and Raph have an issue (which... well, you do) then you should either sort it out via PM or just ignore one another, but the former's never going to happen and the latter strategy's clearly failed over the years so maybe just act like adults tbh?

I have ignored him for weeks actually, I just put him off ignore just incase he wants to vote in the RTV thing, I wouldn't get his pm if he was on ignore, but the whole asian thing is annoying when it's not even true but it shouldn't be an issue anyway but i just told raph things don't bother me anything etc which i'm allowed to say. I am human

LukeB
18-12-2016, 10:49 PM
i'm done anyway

Lucy for Game changers
http://www.brantsteele.com/images/survivor/33/lucy.png

MB.
18-12-2016, 10:50 PM
You see, that's the kind of thing that could (theoretically) be easily settled, if the two/three of you agree to put things aside, agree not to mention whatever if you so wish and move on, because then this thing won't be going around in circles... I mean, I don't want to act like some kind of moderator but it'd be nice if a Survivor season came around that didn't end in "stop liking Asian people!" "you're a bully!" ad infinitum

Anyway, yes, I'll shut up about it now

LukeB
18-12-2016, 10:58 PM
You see, that's the kind of thing that could (theoretically) be easily settled, if the two/three of you agree to put things aside, agree not to mention whatever if you so wish and move on, because then this thing won't be going around in circles... I mean, I don't want to act like some kind of moderator but it'd be nice if a Survivor season came around that didn't end in "stop liking Asian people!" "you're a bully!" ad infinitum

Anyway, yes, I'll shut up about it now

last thing on this will be, it will never be settled. I would give it a try but it would be a waste of time. It would be a better solution if Macie puts us on ignore as well since he also has a issue with people. I probably shouldn't have said that word even though it's how i feel but I always say it in life anyway so it's a habit and i just explained because I've never actually said it before. But i'm putting him back on ignore after the new year and he should do the same so none of this will ever happen because they wouldn't feel they are feeling so and so.

MB.
18-12-2016, 11:00 PM
(I say this from experience considering you and I were in a not-dissimilar situation earlier this year)

Meanwhile, here's Zeke and Hannah in a bath while a topless David watches and an oblivious Mari does her make-up, which doesn't at all scream of desperation

p/BOJSp1jAH-V

Macie Lightfoot
18-12-2016, 11:03 PM
This whole cast screams desperation and I'll just use this as another opportunity to say that I am soooooo happy that this season is behind us :)

LukeB
18-12-2016, 11:03 PM
End of Episode 6:

1. Ken
2. Adam
3. Hannah
4. Chris
5. Michaela
6. Bret
7. Jessica
8. Michelle
9. Zeke
10. Jay
11. Will
12. Sunday
13. Figgy
14. David
15. Taylor


How come you don't like David :o I did think watching this live you would like him for some reason but couldn't really tell you because you weren't a survivor watcher. (are you going to watch older seasons) or is this the only season you only going to watch?

reece(:
18-12-2016, 11:08 PM
This whole cast screams desperation and I'll just use this as another opportunity to say that I am soooooo happy that this season is behind us :)
#dirty30 is just as bad, if not worse.

MB.
18-12-2016, 11:09 PM
For me personally, David improves as the season goes on (most noticeably at the point that the show begins to push his redemption arc to the extent of parody, somehow), but he's just too awkward and too... I don't know, but I just find something a bit odd about his early edit and it puts me off him a little

Raph
18-12-2016, 11:10 PM
How come you don't like David :o I did think watching this live you would like him for some reason but couldn't really tell you because you weren't a survivor watcher. (are you going to watch older seasons) or is this the only season you only going to watch?

I think this will be the only season I watch, because I love the castings of Adam and Hannah. Fundamentally, I hate the editing of survivor, the lack of gameplay compared to big brother and the over-reliance on competitions for success. Also after 7 episodes needless to say, what an interesting boot-order race wise. Same issues we see with Big Brother I suppose.

But yeah re David I like that he's a strategist but in real life I think his personality would annoy me too much. Then again, Ken reminds me most of myself and he's friends with David so it may be a different sort of thing in person!

Also finding out Figgy is a superfan :love: Still don't like her much though :joker:

MB.
18-12-2016, 11:13 PM
Also, looking through the pictures of the cast's trip to Las Vegas (which mostly involve Zeke Doing Things and are therefore mostly painful), can we just appreciate Kristie from Ausvivor somehow managing to work her way into every one of them :love:

Macie Lightfoot
18-12-2016, 11:14 PM
Fundamentally, I hate the editing of survivor, the lack of gameplay compared to big brother and the over-reliance on competitions for success.

This is not even true whatsoever. And this is *NOT* me being a dick, this is me saying that you should probably give this show a chance (maybe a few of the earlier seasons) because you're misunderstanding its entire premise.

LukeB
18-12-2016, 11:16 PM
I think this will be the only season I watch, because I love the castings of Adam and Hannah. Fundamentally, I hate the editing of survivor, the lack of gameplay compared to big brother and the over-reliance on competitions for success. Also after 7 episodes needless to say, what an interesting boot-order race wise. Same issues we see with Big Brother I suppose.

But yeah re David I like that he's a strategist but in real life I think his personality would annoy me too much. Then again, Ken reminds me most of myself and he's friends with David so it may be a different sort of thing in person!

Also finding out Figgy is a superfan :love: Still don't like her much though :joker:

</3 I was quite looking forward to seeing if we have same survivor opinions other than Adam,Ken and Hannah. but I know you are a busy person and there's a lot of seasons to watch.

David can be really annoying but he's been great to watch for me but wouldn't want to socialise with him because I probs get annoyed.

Raph
19-12-2016, 12:04 AM
End of episode 7; so so sad to see Michaela go!

1. Ken
2. Adam
3. Hannah
4. Michaela
5. Bret
6. Chris
7. Jessica
8. Michelle
9. Sunday
10. Will
11. Zeke
12. Jay
13. David
14. Taylor

Raph
19-12-2016, 01:09 AM
End of Episode 8, like the show much more after the merge!

1. Adam
2. Hannah
3. Ken
4. Bret
5. Jay
6. Chris
7. Jessica
8. Michelle
9. Zeke
10. Sunday
11. Taylor
12. David
13. Will

Raph
19-12-2016, 01:10 AM
I'm so surprised at how much I love this season. I've tried to get into survivor a couple of times before but this really is the season for me! Adam, Hannah and Ken :lovedup:

Raph
19-12-2016, 11:56 AM
Hannah is so cute I can't

Raph
20-12-2016, 11:33 AM
After episode 10, what a brutal way for Jessica to go damn but happy Hannah survived as a result.

1. Adam
2. Ken
3. Bret - his coming out moment with zeke was beautiful
4. Hannah
5. Jay
6. Zeke
7. Sunday
8. Will
9. David

starry
20-12-2016, 03:00 PM
"the lack of gameplay compared to big brother and the over-reliance on competitions for success"

Big Brother has zero gameplay compared to Survivor, it's keep in a big group, keep under the radar, suck up to the HoH, all agree beforehand who is going so it doesn't upset the house, unanimous votes as people are so afraid, few blindsides even. How anyone can say Big Brother has more gameplay is truly beyond reason.

And competitions are very important in Big Brother, doubly so than Survivor considering the lack of gameplay.

Raph
20-12-2016, 03:35 PM
I think it's not so much that survivor requires less gameplay it's more that we as viewers can't really understand all the intricacies of the game in survivor like we can in big brother which makes it less enticing for me to watch in terms of gameplay if that makes sense

MB.
20-12-2016, 03:57 PM
...not really, no?

Macie Lightfoot
20-12-2016, 04:53 PM
so much of playing A Good Big Brother Game comes down to like... having yourbball roll into the right slot of some ****ed up carnival game that's probably rigged against you in the first place.

Calderyon
20-12-2016, 05:27 PM
I think it's not so much that survivor requires less gameplay it's more that we as viewers can't really understand all the intricacies of the game in survivor like we can in big brother which makes it less enticing for me to watch in terms of gameplay if that makes sense

I think thatīs because of the lack of live stream in survivor which prevents viewers from seeing some of the important strategy sessions/game talk before the final vote which lead to surprising votes sometimes unlike in BB which people can see most of the game talk if they want to because it has it, making it usually easy to know well ahead of time who is going each week. (live feed)

Raph
21-12-2016, 08:38 AM
Final Rankings such a perfect outcome my top 4 made the top 5 :D

1. Adam
2. Hannah
3. Bret
4. Ken
5. Michaela
6. Jay
7. Mari
8. Chris
9. Jessica
10. Rachel
11. Lucy
12. Zeke
13. Michelle
14. Sunday
15. Cece
16. Will
17. Taylor
18. Figgy
19. David
20. Paul

Raph
21-12-2016, 08:55 AM
What other seasons have nice superfans players like adam and Hannah and Bret?

AarynGriesfan
22-12-2016, 10:23 AM
What other seasons have nice superfans players like adam and Hannah and Bret?


Almost all of the new seasons.

Braden
27-12-2016, 03:07 PM
I'm late to the party, but I have to say that I actually enjoyed this season.

Not many seasons of Survivor are able to engage me on a week to week basis, but Millenials vs. Gen X had a good flow of excitement throughout its episodes. It seemed bleak to begin with, and then it got better and better. I didn't like Adam so much to begin with, but I don't hate him as a winner. I thought Hannah deserved it more and was shocked that she didn't get a single vote, as I thought her effort at final tribal council was great.

Cast rankings:

Hannah
Michaela
Jessica
Zeke
David
Bret
Ken
Michelle
Sunday
CeCe
Lucy
Jay
Will
Adam
Chris
Taylor
Rachel
Paul
Figgy
Mari

I'm excited for Game Changers.

MB.
27-12-2016, 07:07 PM
I can't wait for Adam to get the **** out of there TBH. He does that whole Kelley Wentworthless thing where he screams cue cards Allison Grodner mailed over to Fiji and he's just entirely on the wrong show. He is literally using BBUS jargon like showmance and straight shooter, and I generally watch fall Survivor to wash the taste of BBUS out of my mouth, not remind me of its existence.

thankfully he goes soon :love:

And this is why you shouldn't trust spoilers

Macie Lightfoot
27-12-2016, 07:12 PM
fck off hun look at the state av ya....x