Live Feed cut back to 30 mins a week.

[zakman440]

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Very disappointing - but hopefully it means that they're putting it online in some capacity.

[Cal.]

Was it ever a thing?

[Pete.]

Are we shocked?

[Babayaro.]

A bit of a joke tbh. They're idiots if this is true

[Jason.]

Dissapointing but then again they only introduced it after BB14 for CBB16/17. So it's obviously most likely a CBB thing; you know cause they care way more about that

[Greg!]

I think we just need to accept that channel 5 aren't going to introduce a 24/7 live feed any time soon. I'm grateful for the live feed they do provide because no other uk reality show offers any and the Twitter live feed suits me fine

[Will.]

Hmm this doesn't bother me as I never watched because I was normally in bed.

I would like some tea time live feed, I loved it on BB14 :flutter:

Perhaps 3-5PM to avoid clashes with the soaps.

[jackc1806]

I'd take BB14 style 12-2 tbh but it's peak if they have no LF

[Jack_]

Big Brother's Big Con - coming soon to Channel 5!

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[Jake.]

Don't worry it'll be back for CBB in August

[jackc1806]

Don't worry it'll be back for CBB in August

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[Mrmattybeck]

Such a shame it's such a major part of the big brother format


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[andybigbro]

They really need to bring it back, even "through the night" :facepalm:

[Black Dagger]

I'm past caring at this stage, we haven't had it for 5 years, C5 don't want it, I've accepted it.

[BB4fan]

I'm surprised they never thought about a pay perscription for fans to watch the live feed for a small fee.

[Denver]

Dissapointing but then again they only introduced it after BB14 for CBB16/17. So it's obviously most likely a CBB thing; you know cause they care way more about that

Or CBB brings more money in so they can afford more live feed?

[Denver]

You would have to have no life to be able to watch 247 live feed

[BB4fan]

You would have to have no life to be able to watch 247 live feed

I couldn't watch it all day long tbh. It's ok for an hour or so a night but i remember when E4 had it on all day and it mainly only ever had bird noises from the outside and a silly message about being back soon.

[Jack_]

Or CBB brings more money in so they can afford more live feed?

:joker: if you believe that you'll believe anything

Money isn't an issue (they're currently building the biggest extension to the Elstree house in its history ffs), it's all about editorial control.

You would have to have no life to be able to watch 247 live feed

Way to miss the point of what the 24/7 feed exists for

[Jack_]

Big Brother's Big Con - coming soon to Channel 5!

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I love plagiarism

[zakman440]

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What

[JohnnyBB]

channel 5 are so bizarre why spend all the cash building a new house and not give live feed

[Jake.]

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What

who is that

[zakman440]

who is that

A member on here who's been reposting posts from here on Twitter for a while. He recently cropped back up during BBCAN and now apparently is back to steal more posts again.

[Babayaro.]

You would have to have no life to be able to watch 247 live feed

Yeah that's not the point in 24/7 live feed at all. The point is that you can watch it at any time, whenever you feel like it, which is why I don't really like the timeslots we have been given for CBB recently (although I am grateful for it) as it kind of misses the point in what live feed is all about. If they want to give us it at a specific time then it should be spread out evenly throughout the day. Something like 11am - 1pm, 5pm - 7pm, and 12am - 2am would be ideal.

[Goodbye Summer]

I really struggle to understand why they haven't thought about a Subscription service like Big Brother 2010. Like, they haven't even tried to dip their feet in. Sure they've had the 5Star Live Feed, but they've never gone all out with Online, which is where a lot of the discussion comes from about Big Brother. It'd really generate a lot more hype.

If it doesn't sell well, or people don't want it enough, then scrap it. But at least try a year with it, and see how it fairs with Celebrity Big Brother, too. The most popular of the two.

Either they do things they don't want people to see a lot and mess around with the show, or they're just too stubborn to give it a try. They could always cut away like BBUS or BBCAN does if something really exciting happens that they ideally want to save for TV. But most people watch the feeds to get a better understanding of the housemates, and also just to see more of them than the measly hour we get a night. Which is highlights.

[lukee]

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[zakman440]

Interesting - I just went on the Big Brother website/app and @BBUKLive appears to have been removed from the Twitter sidebar. When you go onto the Twitter section of the app @BBUKLive is blank as well.

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Could they be planning on dropping the live Twitter feed as well?

[Jack_]

lmao it wouldn't surprise me, remember when their reasoning was 'social media is the way forward, people prefer updates!', well now it'll be 'no1curr about updates, so we're dropping them'

They probs cba to watch and will bring it back for CBB when there's someone actually manning the feed

[QueenCharley]

I just don't understand how a reality show/social experiment of people living together in a confined house 24/7 is not given a live feed? The show was made for a live feed christ.

It still baffles me to this day, is it not common sense for Channel 5 to provide a live feed as a subscription service as a method of generating more money from the show?

It's so dumb, like I cannot comprehend the thought process behind not having a live feed, free or not.

[Jack_]

I just don't understand how a reality show/social experiment of people living together in a confined house 24/7 for months as its concept is not given a live feed?

It still baffles me to this day, like is it not common sense to just provide a live feed as a subscription service as a method of generating more money from the show? Wake up.

Because C5 don't understand or care what the concept is, nor do they care about its monetary value.

All they are bothered about is editorial control, and if they provide a live feed, they don't have that in abundance like they do now.

[zakman440]

Apparently they're just updating the site, nvm.

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[zakman440]

I wrote a blog post on the discovery that there's no live feed (again) and the pathetic excuse that Frow used (http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showpost.php?p=82543961&postcount=31).

https://zakman440.wordpress.com/2016/05/27/no-live-feed-again-really/

[Jordan.]

The live feed twitter account is useless anyway, they don't even tweet when someone walks & everything else is cryptic and uninformative.

[*mazedsalv**]

Ben frow said they have cut live feed to just 30 mins on Friday.

C5 can literally shove one up their arse. Bellends. They are bloody useless *****

[Black Dagger]

"Belinda told a joke. Bob thought it was hilarious"

[Glenn.]

This series is getting of to a good start...

[y.winter]

"Belinda told a joke. Bob thought it was hilarious"

Babudibudabadabda :dazzler:
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[RichardG]

i'd be mad if this was 2011 again but idc anymore

[Jake.]

honestly if they didn't have the live feed they do with CBB, I wouldn't care

[MB.]

Am I the only one who didn't expect any more live feed than BB16 had

[Headie]

Am I the only one who didn't expect any more live feed than BB16 had

No

[Daniel-X]

I genuinely think I'm the only person who doesn't really care about live feeds, I don't watch them ever. They are good for updates on here though if there's an argument etc such as Farrah vs Natasha on launch of CBB16.

[Will.]

I genuinely think I'm the only person who doesn't really care about live feeds, I don't watch them ever. They are good for updates on here though if there's an argument etc such as Farrah vs Natasha on launch of CBB16.

I'm kind of the same too and get what you mean, it doesn't bother me as the only live feed we've got recently is at like midnight and I'm normally asleep before that.

If we were getting live feed in the afternoon during CBB16/17 then I'd probs want it more.

[Samm]

People need to stop moaning and going on about it, like if this was 2012 then maybe i'll care but for as much as I want it to happen, the people who constantly email the producers about the LF every season it's a bit tedious.

They've said it before though it's up to the ratings and the interest, if there is more ratings and interest in this series then they'll probably increase it like with BB14, it's no surprise they supply more amounts of LF for CBB there's more interest.

[Jack_]

honestly if they didn't have the live feed they do with CBB, I wouldn't care

Yeah I just think it's C5's relentless infatuation with CBB that forever annoys me

Like, I knew the ad couldn't possibly really be saying 'where is the live feed' and that they weren't going to give us anymore, but you can damn well bet the nightly feed will return for CBBwhatever****ingnumbernow in August :rolleyes:

[Jack_]

People need to stop moaning and going on about it, like if this was 2012 then maybe i'll care but for as much as I want it to happen, the people who constantly email the producers about the LF every season it's a bit tedious.

They've said it before though it's up to the ratings and the interest, if there is more ratings and interest in this series then they'll probably increase it like with BB14, it's no surprise they supply more amounts of LF for CBB there's more interest.

It has absolutely nothing to do with ratings or cost, and people need to stop swallowing their bull****.

It has everything to do with editorial control, which they would lose if they provided a 24/7 feed. I didn't and don't expect it to return ever again, and whilst I think it desperately should, I past the point of caring a long time ago. What I could do without though is their lies which really are just insulting.

[Greg!]

Oh well, they tried bringing it back for BB14 but the ratings were so low they couldn't justify the cost.
Obvs it would be good if they brought it back but I'm happy that they even bother to provide daily updates from the house on Twitter and the website as well as the limited live feed they sometimes give us. No other UK show goes to that extent to keep people up to date so I'm thankful for that

[Jordan.]

It has absolutely nothing to do with ratings or cost, and people need to stop swallowing their bull****.

It has everything to do with editorial control, which they would lose if they provided a 24/7 feed. I didn't and don't expect it to return ever again, and whilst I think it desperately should, I past the point of caring a long time ago. What I could do without though is their lies which really are just insulting.

No shade but I'm surprised you aren't in favour of the producers having full editorial control considering they use it in favour of their chosen 'entertaining' characters.

[Rob!]

I am really not as fussed about the live feed as I should be. I think the fact that the main show doesn't even get that many viewers anymore tells it's own story. Even if they brought back a 24hr feed I doubt the viewers would come flocking back.

[Jack_]

No shade but I'm surprised you aren't in favour of the producers having full editorial control considering they use it in favour of their chosen 'entertaining' characters.

No, it's a fair point and one I don't disagree with. The problem is with their inconsistency. Do I like it when they rig and manipulate the show to protect the entertaining housemates because the public can't be trusted? Yes, of course. Do I like it when they try and cover things up like people leaving the house for photoshoots, rehearsals, task teams going in and directing the housemates? No.

And I certainly don't like things like ****inafreezer gate being covered up either, and not really because I think it protects Jay, moreso because dare I say it would've been ****ing hilarious television?

The way I see it is this. If all we have to go off is their edit, then fine, that's what people should be judging off and if they decide to manipulate things along the way, then so long as it's for the benefit of the series I don't mind. But I would most definitely prefer to have live feed at our disposal given the choice because it makes the show more honest, more interesting and more reactive. BBUK at the minute is almost akin to your run-of-the-mill trashy MTV reality show. I enjoy it for what it is - a bog standard show which runs 48 minutes a night, but not nearly as much as far superior versions of the show like in Canada where they understand what Big Brother actually is and care about its fans. That I can get far more invested in.

[Samm]

It has absolutely nothing to do with ratings or cost, and people need to stop swallowing their bull****.

It has everything to do with editorial control, which they would lose if they provided a 24/7 feed. I didn't and don't expect it to return ever again, and whilst I think it desperately should, I past the point of caring a long time ago. What I could do without though is their lies which really are just insulting.

Why would they increase it for CBB then? I cba to find the thread but I think it was last year, someone sent an email to them and they replied saying it's because of the lack of interest which is true, a few hardcore fans watching it won't keep the money flowing.

[Jack_]

Why would they increase it for CBB then? I cba to find the thread but I think it was last year, someone sent an email to them and they replied saying it's because of the lack of interest which is true, a few hardcore fans watching it won't keep the money flowing.

Because C5 are obsessed with Celebrity Big Brother. They have been since they acquired the show (it's well documented they never wanted the civilian version in the first place). I really don't know why people still can't see this when the signs have always been there. More promotion, more live feed, earlier scheduling, two series a year, series extensions, the list goes on.

Yes CBB is more popular now but that's only because that's what they deliberately set out to do, and it's why I find it so disheartening when long-term fans now say they prefer it too.

It has nothing to do with money. They are currently building the biggest extension to the Elstree house in its entire history! Of course money is not the issue. It is all about editorial control, they don't want to give it up.

[Jake.]

I agree with you to an extent but why would they give up more editorial control for CBB? CBB is where the money is now & it gets twice the amount of viewers as regular BB, with or without nightly live feed. They can edit CBB as much as they wish and people will still watch and vote.

[Jack_]

I agree with you to an extent but why would they give up more editorial control for CBB? CBB is where the money is now & it gets twice the amount of viewers as regular BB, with or without nightly live feed. They can edit CBB as much as they wish and people will still watch and vote.

I don't think providing an hour of live feed a night is giving up editorial control. It's still shambolic, my point is that they scrimp on the civilian feeds cause they cba to provide them and don't give a **** about it quite frankly, whereas for CBB it's their prize possession so the more they can milk it in the nightly schedule (without going the whole distance and providing a 24/7 feed) the better.

Plus as I said, the feed increases discussion and attention and thus only promotes CBB more. By giving viewers the extra feed for CBB and as such more content, is it any wonder they prefer it to the civilian version? All of it is deliberate and it always has been, they eventually just want to run two or God forbid three CBB's and forget the civilian version. It's always been the plan, and to be quite honest we may only be a year or so away from it coming to fruition. The fact that a lot of fans are complacent and falling into their trap isn't helping matters either.

[jonnyblack]

Tbh I think I might be done with BB now, if this turns out to be true. If they hadn't included that obvious sound bite in the advert I wouldn't be saying this, but it's the unnecessary trolling of fans that kept the series alive (and the production in employment!) for 16 years that's just a slap in the face. If live feed was never on the cards, don't bite the hand that feeds you! It's just unnecessary...

[RichardG]

Tbh I think I might be done with BB now, if this turns out to be true. If they hadn't included that obvious sound bite in the advert I wouldn't be saying this, but it's the unnecessary trolling of fans that kept the series alive (and the production in employment!) for 16 years that's just a slap in the face. If live feed was never on the cards, don't bite the hand that feeds you! It's just unnecessary...

I'd say it's much more likely that it was just an unfortunate coincidence that the whisper sounded like it was saying something about live feed as opposed to an intentional trolling of the fans...

[Jason.]

Meh, I've come to terms with the fact that we're never going to get live feed for BB again. It's been that way for 5 years so no point complaining now. And plus if it's another BB15/16 (which it will most likely be) then I really wouldn't want to watch any more than an hour per night tbh.

[jonnyblack]

I'd say it's much more likely that it was just an unfortunate coincidence that the whisper sounded like it was saying something about live feed as opposed to an intentional trolling of the fans...

Even if it wasn't originally intentional, that video will have been viewed internally many times before its release to the public. I don't believe that during that review period nobody noticed what it sounds like (regardless of what it's meant to say). The fact it was left in the end product is the issue. They knew the reaction it would generate - getting fans talking on Twitter, hoping to trend etc. It worked, people took notice all of a sudden. To the extent Rylan referenced the chatter on This Morning. I just think the powers that be should realise it's a very sensitive subject and not poke at it! If it's not coming back, make no reference to it at all. If that strategy had been used people would likely be sad it's not back but they'd have come to expect that's the outcome. It's the teasing of something never on the cards. Unnecessary.

[Greg!]

More people watch CBB so they invest in more live feed as more people will watch it. Less people watch normal BB so there's less live feed. It's as simple as that. Not everything is a conspiracy

[Jack_]

More people watch CBB so they invest in more live feed as more people will watch it. Less people watch normal BB so there's less live feed. It's as simple as that. Not everything is a conspiracy

More people watch CBB because they promote and push it more, anyone that still can't see this five years into C5's tenure with the show is quite frankly deluded.

And someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the figures for both the civilian and CBB live feeds aren't entirely dissimilar. It has nothing to do with cost or ratings, or else why have they just spent God knows how much on the biggest extension to the house in its history?

[Greg!]

BB17 has been promoted just as much as the recent CBBs. More people watch CBB because more people are interested in celebs than normal people and it's usually better than the normal series

[jonnyblack]

I don't think there's a conspiracy. Just even include something that could antagonise fans. I don't doubt CBB is more popular etc. But regular BB can still be an enjoyable watch. Just sad to go into the launch with a bitter taste in the mouth. Like producers are laughing at us.

[Greg!]

The producers aren't laughing at anyone I think you're just paranoid. If more people watch (which is what they want to happen) then they will add more live feed

[LukeB]

It's so obvious C5 obsessed with CBB tbh, CBB gets the promo and civillian doesn't get any. Cbb gets more live feed as well. When CBB was starting the eye and start time was on the Birmingham New Street top screen outside(promotion screen)and i bet you the BB17 eye etc won't be there or infact any promotional boards.

And if they are putting celebs in civillian it just confirms it even more that they are obsessed with celebrities.

[Jack_]

BB17 has been promoted just as much as the recent CBBs. More people watch CBB because more people are interested in celebs than normal people and it's usually better than the normal series

It really hasn't :joker: I'll give them credit where it's due, they're paying for promoted posts on Twitter and Facebook but this is nothing on the kind of promotion CBB gets. Where's the billbords? Where's the ads on other channels? We'll see how it steps up in the next ten days but so far it has nothing on CBB's promotion. It may be sleek and good quality, but that doesn't mean it's being used sufficiently

It's better than the civilian series because they make it so! The evidence has been there right from the start, I don't know why people still refuse to believe C5 care way more about CBB than they do BB

[zakman440]

Let me break it down this way - lack of Live Feed is making the civilian show fail, and the civilian show is failing because of lack of Live Feed:

Lack of Live Feed is making the civilian show fail

The lack of a Live Feed is making the civilian show fail because we're spoon-fed a 45 minute highlights show. We can't form a true opinion on what happens in the house because we don't see everything that happens in the house - only what the producers want to see. You can't get fully invested in the show because it's being angled towards the casual viewer rather than the long-term viewer, hence why Celebrity Big Brother is still a success - you already have an idea of who the housemates are because their personalities are well known, plus it's a much shorter run.

In civilian Big Brother, we're expected to get to know a bunch of (mostly) unknown people whom we've (mostly) never heard of before for 3 months. Live Feed helps with that because we get to watch them 24/7 - we get to see everything. With the 45 minute highlights show, it's edited to favour one bunch of housemates and the others just get left behind, which isn't really fair. The Live Feed helps to supplement the edit and keep the show honest - and if a housemate really has been boring, they can't blame the edit because the evidence will be stacked against them.

The civilian show is failing because of lack of Live Feed

It's no coincidence that the highest rating series of civilian Big Brother on Channel 5 was the one that had the most Live Feed - Big Brother 14. It's also no coincidence that the countries who are still offering a Live Feed (the USA (both Big Brother USA and Gran Hermano US), Canada, Albania, Turkey etc) are still on the air and are thriving/showing no signs of slowing down. Meanwhile - Australia, the one country that went down the no Live Feed route taken by Channel 5, has been axed due to low ratings.

The Live Feed helps create a buzz around the show which ultimately leads to higher ratings. It's not a nice example, but take the Hazel and Daley incident from BB14. That unfolded on the Live Feed, which lead to more people talking about it on social media and the press running with the story as a result. Daley's ejection episode the next day was the most watched episode of civilian Big Brother on Channel 5 to date - and it was largely because of what unfolded the night before on the Live Feed.

Without that buzz and without being able to make that proper connection to the housemates, Channel 5 will continue to make terrible series like Big Brother 15 and Big Brother 16 with endless twists, producer manipulation and no sense of consistency, in order to give the show a minor ratings boost at times. The lack of a Live Feed is ultimately why the civilian version of the show is failing - they're sacrificing any success of the show for editorial control and countless twists.

(And let's face it, if they're advertising this series to be all change and they've spent all that money on a house extension, they might as well go all out as it's clearly not a matter of cost).

[Headie]

^Gurl there's no point preaching all that to us, you should email Ben Frow or whoever instead or else you're wasting your time :laugh:

[billy123]

My interest is already at an all time low. This doesn't help at all.
I still have the sad record of having watched every single highlight show since it started.
C5 are knobheads i suspect the time to start watching it online after it airs minus the C5 adverts has arrived.
**** em.