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Jamie89
07-06-2016, 12:26 PM
sorry I dont agree, equality is one thing but ignoring that in general men are bigger and stronger is just plain silly

otherwise why have men and women sport?

Lets see Bolt race whoever is the top women if you want that equality


wont happen
So if I (a man) approached another man who was bigger and stronger than me and I physically attacked him, would it be unacceptable for him to retaliate, given that I'm weaker than him? :think:

Mystic Mock
07-06-2016, 12:26 PM
Good advice Mock,I try to do that most of the time sometimes I have a rant,but seriously I cant be arsed most of the time as it's blindingly obvious some members are a target. people may not like others opinions but this is a forum so everyone has the right to state theirs whether people like it or not and I honestly think some people enjoy having a go.

I agree that people's opinions that are not with the general consensus need to be accepted more on here as certain members can't seem to handle it very well without being directly rude to that particular member (I've had it happen to me) and I've seen it happen to other members that dare to go against the general consensus of TIBB's opinions too which isn't on.

I think what needs to start happening on here is that people need to accept differences of opinions and debate them more rationally (even if it's a bit more duller lol) and we need members that have their opinions challenged to get less defensive when it happens too as I've seen countless times on this thread where people don't like their opinions being challenged when the whole point of a Forum is for debates.

Basically in short I agree with the BIB Kazanne.:joker:

Black Dagger
07-06-2016, 12:27 PM
Yeah I never really remember Adjoa arguing, just her buttering bread, admitting she is a lesbian and whining that time she got called annoying in a task by the public or st.

Headie
07-06-2016, 12:27 PM
Lol @ Dean being called a good HM

Jack_
07-06-2016, 12:27 PM
Don't enter the thread then? They're going to come round often so be aware

lol ikr that's all on season is these days

Sad that it has to be that way, but when opinions that were even outdated in the 1960s are thrown around, they're going to be challenged. And rightly so

Black Dagger
07-06-2016, 12:27 PM
I remember it well Lucas but she loves you now:wavey:

:lovedup:

Macie Lightfoot
07-06-2016, 12:27 PM
:joker:

omg someone post the collage again I've not seen it for ages <3

it's a BANNED IMAGE supposedly, I got many warnings and infractions in 2014 for posting it :(

chuff me dizzy
07-06-2016, 12:28 PM
No she meant "don't start me on that piece of ****" in regards to me saying Asian isn't the same as black

Pardon ? don't put words into my mouth ,i dont give a single flying one what race or colour Deana was,she was a vile piece of **** regardless

Pete.
07-06-2016, 12:28 PM
it's a BANNED IMAGE supposedly, I got many warnings and infractions in 2014 for posting it :(
Noo </3

Shaun
07-06-2016, 12:28 PM
wait who did Adjoa argue with :think:

the task where they get everyone to rank themselves "who's the most conceited", "who's the most two-faced" etc and her reacting to being picked like a child?

Plus arguing with Harriett over eggs lol

I mean fine she didn't argue with everyone but she acted like a child so it's just amusing watching everyone climb over themselves saying "she shouldn't have been evicted!" when she played the game like an idiot.

Jack_
07-06-2016, 12:28 PM
it's a BANNED IMAGE supposedly, I got many warnings and infractions in 2014 for posting it :(

I thought that was cause you were spamming it tho :laugh:

It can't be banned, there's nothing wrong with it

Headie
07-06-2016, 12:29 PM
Pardon ? don't put words into my mouth ,i dont give a single flying one what race or colour Deana was,she was a vile piece of **** regardless

Don't get worked up Chuff, just a misunderstanding :pat:

Mystic Mock
07-06-2016, 12:29 PM
Only YOU can get yourself banned, don't fool yourself into thinking it's others doing

If a member is deliberately harassing you and deliberately winding you up and then you get banned whilst they get let off scott free then it's an injustice and you've become a victim.

chuff me dizzy
07-06-2016, 12:30 PM
Chuff hated Deana lmao. It's why we used to argue so much, we were horrible to each other. Good ole 2013!

We are ok now though :kiss: we don't always agree on hm8s, but are bigger people than arguing over them ,its called being mature

Headie
07-06-2016, 12:30 PM
the task where they get everyone to rank themselves "who's the most conceited", "who's the most two-faced" etc and her reacting to being picked like a child?.

And rightfully so? By that point all she had done is talk about pussy, then all of a sudden she's topping public polls saying she's two faced, sly, manipulative etc? She had every right to be mad at being wrongly labelled. Girl was harmless

Macie Lightfoot
07-06-2016, 12:30 PM
I thought that was cause you were spamming it tho :laugh:

It can't be banned, there's nothing wrong with it

"spamming" :rolleyes:

chuff me dizzy
07-06-2016, 12:30 PM
Don't get worked up Chuff, just a misunderstanding :pat:

No one on here is capable of winding me up Hayden and well you know it :joker:

armand.kay
07-06-2016, 12:30 PM
She's a black girl, she must've argues with the whole house!!! Come on armand, it's common knowledge!

of course how could i forget

Ross.
07-06-2016, 12:31 PM
Shaun, if I say I've been to Tenerife then you'll say you've been to Elevenerife

Oaker
07-06-2016, 12:31 PM
How could anyone think Deana is 'vile' though? :umm2:

Shaun
07-06-2016, 12:32 PM
And rightfully so? By that point all she had done is talk about pussy, then all of a sudden she's topping public polls saying she's two faced, sly, manipulative etc? She had every right to be mad at being wrongly labelled. Girl was harmless

Didn't really understand why she was picked either but it's just obvious at this point that if you react to the public's polls and all this nonsense (that shouldn't even be included) with indignance and protests then they're just going to turn on you further.

Jack_
07-06-2016, 12:32 PM
How could anyone think Deana is 'vile' though? :umm2:

Have one guess!

chuff me dizzy
07-06-2016, 12:33 PM
How could anyone think Deana is 'vile' though? :umm2:

Because she was an arrogant bitch

Mystic Mock
07-06-2016, 12:33 PM
oh yeah someone made racist comments about me (just based on my country) because i said if a woman lays their hand on some man, that man had a right to defend himself. he only got a warning when i got the same treatment just because i changed someones quote.


and this came from a fellow lgbt member it is sad that a minority member can use that disgusting language

Sadly sometimes is that the ones fighting for equal rights can be their own worst enemy as with this one that targeted you for speaking common sense.

Oaker
07-06-2016, 12:34 PM
Because she was an arrogant bitch

Are you a Conor fan or something?

Kazanne
07-06-2016, 12:34 PM
lol ikr that's all on season is these days

Sad that it has to be that way, but when opinions that were even outdated in the 1960s are thrown around, they're going to be challenged. And rightly so

What IS sad that an older person is so obviously targeted,anyone can see that,so what if Chuff has a differing opinion,there is no need to be rude and make fun all the time ,some people need to just grow up,its like a playground here already, Sometimes it's not what you say,it's how you say it, If Chuff thinks men should never hit a woman so what? she did already say it was wrong for a woman to do it also,but as LT said men are on the whole stronger and bigger than women,people need to stop with the goading before we can debate anything as adults . Chuff gave her opinion so let it go.

Crimson Dynamo
07-06-2016, 12:34 PM
lol ikr that's all on season is these days

Sad that it has to be that way, but when opinions that were even outdated in the 1960s are thrown around, they're going to be challenged. And rightly so

same goes with hand wringing unrealistic liberal views that dont bear any relation to real life

:hee:

so bring on BB:dance:

Headie
07-06-2016, 12:35 PM
Didn't really understand why she was picked either but it's just obvious at this point that if you react to the public's polls and all this nonsense (that shouldn't even be included) with indignance and protests then they're just going to turn on you further.

What was she supposed to say - "yeah I agree, I am sly, I've been two faced this whole time" - I'm sure the public would've loved that :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
07-06-2016, 12:35 PM
What IS sad that an older person is so obviously targeted,anyone can see that,so what if Chuff has a differing opinion,there is no need to be rude and make fun all the time ,some people need to just grow up,its like a playground here already, Sometimes it's not what you say,it's how you say it, If Chuff thinks men should never hit a woman so what? she did already say it was wrong for a woman to do it also,but as LT said men are on the whole stronger and bigger than women,people need to stop with the goading before we can debate anything as adults . Chuff gave her opinion so let it go.

:clap1:

LukeB
07-06-2016, 12:36 PM
What IS sad that an older person is so obviously targeted,anyone can see that,so what if Chuff has a differing opinion,there is no need to be rude and make fun all the time ,some people need to just grow up,its like a playground here already, Sometimes it's not what you say,it's how you say it, If Chuff thinks men should never hit a woman so what? she did already say it was wrong for a woman to do it also,but as LT said men are on the whole stronger and bigger than women,people need to stop with the goading before we can debate anything as adults . Chuff gave her opinion so let it go.

Oh bloody come off it and stop with the false accusations.. no one is targeting anyone because of their age. :rolleyes:

Kazanne
07-06-2016, 12:36 PM
If a member is deliberately harassing you and deliberately winding you up and then you get banned whilst they get let off scott free then it's an injustice and you've become a victim.

:worship::clap1:

chuff me dizzy
07-06-2016, 12:36 PM
What IS sad that an older person is so obviously targeted,anyone can see that,so what if Chuff has a differing opinion,there is no need to be rude and make fun all the time ,some people need to just grow up,its like a playground here already, Sometimes it's not what you say,it's how you say it, If Chuff thinks men should never hit a woman so what? she did already say it was wrong for a woman to do it also,but as LT said men are on the whole stronger and bigger than women,people need to stop with the goading before we can debate anything as adults . Chuff gave her opinion so let it go.

He hasn't scored enough brownie points yet .......... and this thread is about black hm8s nothing to do with abuse and should be on Serious debates not here

reece(:
07-06-2016, 12:37 PM
Oh bloody come off it and stop with the false accusations.. no one is targeting anyone because of their age. :rolleyes:

Someone can be 20 and hold Victorian views, it's nothing to do with age :laugh:

Shaun
07-06-2016, 12:37 PM
What was she supposed to say - "yeah I agree, I am sly, I've been two faced this whole time" - I'm sure the public would've loved that :laugh:

Just a bemused kind of "oh alright then lol" / shrugging it off would've been pretty easy.

Kazanne
07-06-2016, 12:37 PM
Oh bloody come off it and stop with the false accusations.. no one is targeting anyone because of their age. :rolleyes:

:joker:Have you even read some of the posts? I guess not,and don't swear at your peers

Kazanne
07-06-2016, 12:38 PM
Someone can be 20 and hold Victorian views, it's nothing to do with age :laugh:

Good deflection Reece

Amy Jade
07-06-2016, 12:38 PM
Oh god is the 'poor victim chuff' crap being peddled already?

Mystic Mock
07-06-2016, 12:39 PM
same goes with hand wringing unrealistic liberal views that dont bear any relation to real life

:hee:

so bring on BB:dance:

Why are you tarnishing liberal around like it's a bad thing? Do you not like the freedom to express yourself and debate your opinions with other people?

Shaun
07-06-2016, 12:39 PM
:joker:Have you even read some of the posts? I guess not,and don't swear at your peers

Do you actually consider 'bloody' a swear word or are you just reaching for the hell of it

LukeB
07-06-2016, 12:40 PM
Someone can be 20 and hold Victorian views, it's nothing to do with age :laugh:

Exactly and I'm sure Jack_ (who it was aimed at) and anyone really would say the same thing to a 20 year old, no one sets out to target anyone because of their age :joker:

chuff me dizzy
07-06-2016, 12:40 PM
Oh god is the 'poor victim chuff' crap being peddled already?

I think you will find its YOU throwing the "Poor me" card by saying nasty,awful bullies on here will get you banned :bawling:

Kazanne
07-06-2016, 12:43 PM
Do you actually consider 'bloody' a swear word or are you just reaching for the hell of it

I was trying to add a bit of humour to the 'debate' but no matter:shrug:

LukeB
07-06-2016, 12:43 PM
:joker:Have you even read some of the posts? I guess not,and don't swear at your peers

Yes and bloody is not a swear word so I don't know where you got that from. You're accusing someone of targeting the older members when it's not true :shrug:

Lostie!
07-06-2016, 12:43 PM
How could anyone think Deana is 'vile' though? :umm2:

Because they don't even know her flippin personality!!!

Kazanne
07-06-2016, 12:44 PM
I think you will find its YOU throwing the "Poor me" card by saying nasty,awful bullies on here will get you banned :bawling:

Same old,same old Chuff:joker:

Amy Jade
07-06-2016, 12:44 PM
I think you will find its YOU throwing the "Poor me" card by saying nasty,awful bullies on here will get you banned :bawling:

I'm not a victim and I never called any a nasty, awful bully either.

It's interesting you're quite happy to put words into my mouth but if you think somebody does the same to you you flip out.

Mystic Mock
07-06-2016, 12:44 PM
Exactly and I'm sure Jack_ (who it was aimed at) and anyone really would say the same thing to a 20 year old, no one sets out to target anyone because of their age :joker:

Well it's hard to truly know anyone's motives on here I think, but I honestly don't see Jack (who's one of the least prejudiced people on here) targeting someone because of their age, I don't think that it's in his nature to do that.

I honestly think that him and Chuff are very different people and they're clashing because of it as the one thing that they do have in common is that they're very assertive with their opinions from different perspectives.

LukeB
07-06-2016, 12:44 PM
I think you will find its YOU throwing the "Poor me" card by saying nasty,awful bullies on here will get you banned :bawling:

Yep Amy hasn't done any of this.

Amy Jade
07-06-2016, 12:45 PM
Respect is earned. You don't get respected just for being older.

chuff me dizzy
07-06-2016, 12:45 PM
I'm not a victim and I never called any a nasty, awful bully either.

It's interesting you're quite happy to put words into my mouth but if you think somebody does the same to you you flip out.

You implied ,the nasty bullies would get you banned ,not your own attitude towards people

Mystic Mock
07-06-2016, 12:45 PM
Just a bemused kind of "oh alright then lol" / shrugging it off would've been pretty easy.

That's easier said than done when it's not aimed at you on national TV.

Kazanne
07-06-2016, 12:45 PM
Because they don't even know her flippin personality!!!

Well we could say that for ALL the housemates and some of them are called vile or even worse.

Amy Jade
07-06-2016, 12:46 PM
:hee:

armand.kay
07-06-2016, 12:46 PM
the task where they get everyone to rank themselves "who's the most conceited", "who's the most two-faced" etc and her reacting to being picked like a child?

Plus arguing with Harriett over eggs lol

I mean fine she didn't argue with everyone but she acted like a child so it's just amusing watching everyone climb over themselves saying "she shouldn't have been evicted!" when she played the game like an idiot.

i mean thats not arguing she was just reacting to all the viewers voting her as most conceited etc I think anyone would've been a bit upset and it probably just caught her a bit off guard so how she really felt came through whats the big deal :shrug:.. I don't see how that and an argument over eggs makes her a bad person.

I like her because she was fun and interesting she made the first nights live feed so funny, this i big brother i don't only like housemates because of how they play the game.

Jack_
07-06-2016, 12:46 PM
What IS sad that an older person is so obviously targeted,anyone can see that,so what if Chuff has a differing opinion,there is no need to be rude and make fun all the time ,some people need to just grow up,its like a playground here already, Sometimes it's not what you say,it's how you say it, If Chuff thinks men should never hit a woman so what? she did already say it was wrong for a woman to do it also,but as LT said men are on the whole stronger and bigger than women,people need to stop with the goading before we can debate anything as adults . Chuff gave her opinion so let it go.

In case you weren't reading the thread or missed it, I made a conscious effort to try and engage in a civilised debate with Chuff. I didn't mock, bait or do any of the things you're trying to accuse me of doing so this post is entirely misplaced and actually quite rude. A poster insinuated something I didn't agree with so I challenged it, this is a forum and that is my right. If you don't like engaging in debates, don't make comments that will incite one. And saying that men should never hit a woman and insinuating that men can't and aren't the victims of domestic violence most definitely will.

Direct your white-knighting elsewhere because I'm not the person to be aiming this at in this instance.

same goes with hand wringing unrealistic liberal views that dont bear any relation to real life

:hee:

so bring on BB:dance:

I'm afraid they're far more realistic than any of the outdated tripe being spouted in this thread. But I understand being on the wrong side of history and wrong isn't an enjoyable feeling so I sympathise

As a side note, is there anything more cringey a phrase than 'hand wringing'? :yuk: 'looney left' and 'bleeding heart' have to be up there too

He hasn't scored enough brownie points yet .......... and this thread is about black hm8s nothing to do with abuse and should be on Serious debates not here

In which case don't make comments about violence in a thread about black housemates, or else you will be pulled up on it

I notice you still haven't answered my question btw

chuff me dizzy
07-06-2016, 12:46 PM
Well it's hard to truly know anyone's motives on here I think, but I honestly don't see Jack (who's one of the least prejudiced people on here) targeting someone because of their age, I don't think that it's in his nature to do that.

I honestly think that him and Chuff are very different people and they're clashing because of it as the one thing that they do have in common is that they're very assertive with their opinions from different perspectives.

I admit I speak my mind ,Im a strong Yorkshire woman, we don't suffer fools gladly, but Im never rude to people In fact Im as soft as a brush ,and Im fair

Mystic Mock
07-06-2016, 12:48 PM
You implied ,the nasty bullies would get you banned ,not your own attitude towards people

Tbf I never saw her say that anyone was bullying her, just that she feels like she will struggle to keep her composure with certain members on here this year.

chuff me dizzy
07-06-2016, 12:48 PM
In case you weren't reading the thread or missed it, I made a conscious effort to try and engage in a civilised debate with Chuff. I didn't mock, bait or do any of the things you're trying to accuse me of doing so this post is entirely misplaced and actually quite rude. A poster insinuated something I didn't agree with so I challenged it, this is a forum and that is my right. If you don't like engaging in debates, don't make comments that will incite one. And saying that men should never hit a woman and insinuating that men can't and aren't the victims of domestic violence most definitely will.

Direct your white-knighting elsewhere because I'm not the person to be aiming this at in this instance.



I'm afraid they're far more realistic than any of the outdated tripe being spouted in this thread. But I understand being on the wrong side of history and wrong isn't an enjoyable feeling so I sympathise

As a side note, is there anything more cringey a phrase than 'hand wringing'? :yuk: 'looney left' and 'bleeding heart' have to be up there too



In which case don't make comments about violence in a thread about black housemates, or else you will be pulled up on it

I notice you still haven't answered my question btw

I did answer your question,but wont be doing so again ,take your cause onto Serious Debate and I will discuss it there with you

Amy Jade
07-06-2016, 12:49 PM
I'm going to get banned this year I can feel it if I even debate with certain 'people'.

You implied ,the nasty bullies would get you banned ,not your own attitude towards people

Where?

Stop making stuff up please

Tom4784
07-06-2016, 12:50 PM
This thread is a trashcan and I'm closing it.

Everyone in this thread needs to let go of their instincts and nature and stop being so godamn messy. Look at yourselves. Be Better.