Do you think Andrew should be ejected for his past comments?

[Headie]

This is NOT an argument thread, don't get into rows please :laugh: Just vote in the poll with your opinion if you feel like posting isn't gonna do any good :laugh:

For anyone who hasn't seen the comments:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8698320&postcount=1

[Shaun]

I didn't think Tila Tequila should've been and she's a far more mentally-unhinged, bigoted, stupid bitch than he is on the regular, so no.

[Jordan.]

No, housemates should only be removed for their actions in the house.

[Headie]

I didn't think Tila Tequila should've been and she's a far more mentally-unhinged, bigoted, stupid bitch than he is on the regular, so no.

No, housemates should only be removed for their actions in the house.

If this was pre-CBB16 then I'd agree, but I think it'd be extremely unfair if he was allowed to stay and "redeem himself" to some viewers when Tila was not given the same opportunity.

[chuff me dizzy]

Load of rubbish, its a big fat NO from me

[Daniel.]

No but I haven't read them.

[reece(:]

Not if Tila wasn't allowed to stay

[T*]

i can't see him the same way for the duration of the show so yes

[Jack_]

No, Tila's ejection was moronic and totally unjustified and so would his

What they've said or done outside of the house is irrelevant. The point is to judge their actions inside the house, or else what's the point in doing the show? We may as well not bother

[Headie]

No but I haven't read them.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8698320&postcount=1

[Lostie!]

If it's something that's worthy of stopping you entering the house in the first place (as plastering derogatory comments about sexuality, race and mental disability absolutely should imo), then it's enough to warrant an ejection.

No, and anyone who votes yes is a little pathetic in my humble opinion.

Might wanna stick to posting your humble opinion on the topic and not other forum members since Hayden specifically said he didn't want his thread to descend into silly drama.

[Drew.]

Just going off consistency you've gotta argue if they've removed someone for doing something similar before then they should do it again

Thats not to say i want him removed because i think he could be a good controversial housemate that causes discussion, but if he was i wouldn't have any complaints

[Daniel.]

Ew he's TRASH :umm2:

[Dominic]

No :) but since living legend Tila was ejected for hers, he does too ^^

[Kazanne]

No,that's silly,I will judge him as he is in the house

[Ashsleigh]

Just going off consistency you've gotta argue if they've removed someone for doing something similar before then they should do it again

Thats not to say i want him removed because i think he could be a good controversial housemate that causes discussion, but if he was i wouldn't have any complaints

Exactly this.

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

No, because that would be censorship and would only feed it. When he inevitably says something stupid in the house, then BB or the viewers can evict him.

I don't agree we should censor people with opinions we dislike because inevitably you end up with a nasty extreme that hits the red button everytime they see any opinion they dislike. However, we have a right to respond to them. That would be more fair. He would not be the first celebrity to be openly anti-gay and definitely won't be the last.

Tila didn't exactly come on TV with guns blazing and she did admit her views were OTT and not well thought out (I think).

[Daniel.]

He supports Trump so he should be removed

[Walter White]

sweet jesus, what a ****.

[Headie]

Just going off consistency you've gotta argue if they've removed someone for doing something similar before then they should do it again

Thats not to say i want him removed because i think he could be a good controversial housemate that causes discussion, but if he was i wouldn't have any complaints

If they aren't even gonna expose his tweets in some silly task or something like they did with Winston's past comments, then he should just be ejected like Tila was, I agree it's about consistency.

And if they do use his comments in tasks like they exploited Winston with then C5 haven't learned their lesson either

[Rob!]

Well no?

[TomC]

This isn't an argument thread, no need to say thing like that :umm2:

It takes two to argue, and I'll post how I feel.


Might wanna stick to posting your humble opinion on the topic and not other forum members since Hayden specifically said he didn't want his thread to descend into silly drama.

Considering it directly involves the topic, no. Like I said to Hayden it takes two to argue, and I'll say what I feel.

[Lostie!]

And YOUVE don't just that

Pardon?

[Drew.]

If they aren't even gonna expose his tweets in some silly task or something like they did with Winston's past comments, then he should just be ejected like Tila was, I agree it's about consistency.

And if they do use his comments in tasks like they exploited Winston with then C5 haven't learned their lesson either

I can't really remember Winstons, were they this bad?

I can't see C5 advertising Andrews tweets in a task, there would be too much of a backlash both on him and BB themselves for allowing someone like that in the house/showing off what he's said

[bots]

i need to find out more about him. Also, Tila was advocating and supporting murder, so its not comparing like with like.

[Shaun]

erm @ Andy, a BBC journalist sacked for tackling a homophobic/sexist boxer, being in the same house as Andrew, a homophobic/sexist boxer :worry:

[Tom4784]

I didn't think Tila Tequila should've been and she's a far more mentally-unhinged, bigoted, stupid bitch than he is on the regular, so no.

^

If he shares views like that in the house then go to town but he shouldn't be removed for past comments.

[Babayaro.]

No, as it was in the past. If it was like a few months ago then fair enough but it was 4 years ago and I think people are slightly making a big deal out of it.

[Jake.]

Just going off consistency you've gotta argue if they've removed someone for doing something similar before then they should do it again

Thats not to say i want him removed because i think he could be a good controversial housemate that causes discussion, but if he was i wouldn't have any complaints

is is also my view on it

[Jordan.]

If this was pre-CBB16 then I'd agree, but I think it'd be extremely unfair if he was allowed to stay and "redeem himself" to some viewers when Tila was not given the same opportunity.

Yeah it's unfair on Tila but if you think her ejection was wrong surely stick to your guns and disagree with BB removing any housemates for past matters.

[Ross.]

Just going off consistency you've gotta argue if they've removed someone for doing something similar before then they should do it again

Thats not to say i want him removed because i think he could be a good controversial housemate that causes discussion, but if he was i wouldn't have any complaints

pretty much this

[Headie]

erm @ Andy, a BBC journalist sacked for tackling a homophobic/sexist boxer, being in the same house as Andrew, a homophobic/sexist boxer :worry:

Giving me Winston, a homophobic anti-adoption man being put in a house with John, a gay man looking to adopt with his husband teas

[andybigbro]

No i disagreed with Tila's ejection


Yeah their opinions are rude and controversial but I believe they should be judged on their behaviour in the house.

[T*]

Just going off consistency you've gotta argue if they've removed someone for doing something similar before then they should do it again

Thats not to say i want him removed because i think he could be a good controversial housemate that causes discussion, but if he was i wouldn't have any complaints

.

[Walter White]

i need to find out more about him. Also, Tila was advocating and supporting murder, so its not comparing like with like.

Tila's a psychopath.

[Amy Jade]

No.

I think they should be able to say pretty much anything they want and not get kicked out.

The only ejections I have ever agreed with was Dennis iirc

[callumbb]

He should never have been let in in the first place with disgusting and offensive comments like that

[ThriceShy]

He hasn't broken any rules in BB so shouldn't be ejected.

[Jason.]

I think his comments are disgusting and I don't agree or condone them whatsoever, but I voted No. And Tila shouldn't have been removed either as that was stupid.

But if and when he says something racist, homophobic, or bigoted inside the house then chuck him out in a heartbeat.

[Samm]

The thread was closed before I could post, but I'm disgusted at Andrew a PIG!

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Being on the show is a privilege, for what he tweeted and the fact he has the nerve to go on bb with no apology - yes I would boot him, expose him and use him as an example

[Amy Jade]

Being on the show is a privilege, for what he tweeted and the fact he has the nerve to go on bb with no apology - yes I would boot him, expose him and use him as an example

You've changed your tune LT

[Christmas Dynasnow]

No i disagreed with Tila's ejection


Yeah their opinions are rude and controversial but I believe they should be judged on their behaviour in the house.

using downs syndrome people as a slur to try and show off on twitter is not rude and controversial!

its repulsive and truly hurtful to all families with downs syndrome humans


its beyond disgusting

[ThriceShy]

Is it just the BB gig that people think he should lose for these tweets? Or should this prevent him ever working for the rest of his life?

[bots]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't BB ask Tila to explain her social media comments, and it was only when she persisted with the same views that she was ejected.

[VanessaFeltz.]

No, housemates should only be removed for their actions in the house.
this

[Christmas Dynasnow]

You've changed your tune LT

one tweet turned into a tirade and he attacked the defenceless

everyone can make a mistake but when you are making a nasty habit of them..

[ThriceShy]

one tweet turned into a tirade and he attacked the defenceless

everyone can make a mistake but when you are making a nasty habit of them..

Helen attacked people in person for 10 weeks and won. Why so precious about a few old tweets?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Helen attacked people in person for 10 weeks and won. Why so precious about a few old tweets?

she attacked adults who can fight back

[Ammi]

...was the tweet not to his brother or something..?..if it's a member of his family../someone really close to him then we don't really know the context of it surely...

[ThriceShy]

she attacked adults who can fight back

And she won. So attacking must be good

[Jack_]

using downs syndrome people as a slur to try and show off on twitter is not rude and controversial!

its repulsive and truly hurtful to all families with downs syndrome humans


its beyond disgusting

So racism and homophobia are okay but attacking the disabled is a step too far?

It's not a discrimination competition

[Walter White]

...was the tweet not to his brother or something..?..if it's a member of his family../someone really close to him then we don't really know the context of it surely...

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8698320&postcount=1

[joeysteele]

No, in my view.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

So racism and homophobia are okay but attacking the disabled is a step too far?

It's not a discrimination competition

no jack i did not say that, but both groups are quite capable of fighting back


that was my point

but way to go to try and get leverage from it

:umm2:

[Amy Jade]

...was the tweet not to his brother or something..?..if it's a member of his family../someone really close to him then we don't really know the context of it surely...

One was about how children shouldn't be educated to homosexuality just incase it teaches kids to be gay

He called his brother a fag

Said drake looked like he had down syndrome

Called black people ****

[ThriceShy]

Interesting that NO is winning by a mile.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

its quite the rap sheet

[Ammi]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8698320&postcount=1

....oooops, I obviously hadn't seen them all.../thank you Robocop..:love:...pretty grim, then...

[RichardG]

No and Tila shouldn't have been removed, if you're gonna stick these people on your show you can't remove them a few days later because you didn't do your job properly and check who these housemates actually are

[ThriceShy]

One was about how children shouldn't be educated to homosexuality just incase it teaches kids to be gay

He called his brother a fag

Said drake looked like he had down syndrome

Called black people ****

No, he said that Cheryl Cole a *** socket and people here linked that to black people.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

No and Tila shouldn't have been removed, if you're gonna stick these people on your show you can't remove them a few days later because you didn't do your job properly and check who these housemates actually are

yes this is true

[Ammi]

One was about how children shouldn't be educated to homosexuality just incase it teaches kids to be gay

He called his brother a fag

Said drake looked like he had down syndrome

Called black people ****

..ahhh yeah, I just saw the link to the tweets, Amy..(thank you..:love:..)..I maybe thought it was just some silly jokey stuff with his brother...

[Jake.]

No, he said that Cheryl Cole a *** socket and people here linked that to black people.

What are you talking about? Of course it's linked to black people.

[Amy Jade]

No, he said that Cheryl Cole a *** socket and people here linked that to black people.

You know how you kept posting the definition of words...go find the definition of '***' and post it.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

No, he said that Cheryl Cole a *** socket and people here linked that to black people.

and lets face it people are not sherlock holmes so i am guessing the link was pretty obvious?

[Marsh.]

No, he said that Cheryl Cole a *** socket and people here linked that to black people.

:joker: So, come on then Einstein what does that comment mean if it isn't a racially disparaging remark?

[sampvt]

So racism and homophobia are okay but attacking the disabled is a step too far?

It's not a discrimination competition

Oh FFS, give over for christs sake. Cant you just enjoy the show instead of continually using it as a platform to sound of on gender issues and things we could all do with a break from. This is an entertainment show not your own personal vehicle for opinions that are so out dated and self serving.

[Amy Jade]

..ahhh yeah, I just saw the link to the tweets, Amy..(thank you..:love:..)..I maybe thought it was just some silly jokey stuff with his brother...

That could well be true but calling black people **** and attacking somebody and saying they have down syndrome wasn't a joke at all

[VanessaFeltz.]

Oh FFS, give over for christs sake. Cant you just enjoy the show instead of continually using it as a platform to sound of on gender issues and things we could all do with a break from. This is an entertainment show not your own personal vehicle for opinions that are so out dated and self serving.

This IS about the show though, show is about social experiment that we can discuss, argue and maybe learn from.

[Jake.]

So racism and homophobia are okay but attacking the disabled is a step too far?

It's not a discrimination competition

I do agree but then it's each persons take on it I suppose? Not trying to single you out/bring up things from before (so apologies if this comes across that way), but I remember you saying that in your opinion, Helen didn't bully Jale in BB15 but did Brian in BB16. So it's that kinda thing if that makes sense, we all have a perception of what's worse than the other.

[Firewire]

No, most of his comments were years ago. People change their views, they learn. Let him share his experiences and views on-screen.

[Marsh.]

This IS about the show though, show is about social experiment that we can discuss, argue and maybe learn from.

:clap1:

[Christmas Dynasnow]

here for the Chuff appreciation thread tomoz

:fan:

[Jack_]

Oh FFS, give over for christs sake. Cant you just enjoy the show instead of continually using it as a platform to sound of on gender issues and things we could all do with a break from. This is an entertainment show not your own personal vehicle for opinions that are so out dated and self serving.

LMAO my views are outdated?! Are you taking the piss?

And considering this is an 'entertainment show' (which you're right, it is), it's funny that almost every series you can guarantee you'll be campaigning for the entertaining housemates to be evicted and championing some dullard

Andrew is a housemate in Big Brother. A housemate who has made comments regarding race, homosexuality and disability. Therefore we, including myself, are discussing them. It's pretty self explanatory if you think about it.

[ThriceShy]

That could well be true but calling black people **** and attacking somebody and saying they have down syndrome wasn't a joke at all

Offence is taken not given. If you find his tweets offensive then don't read them. People are now seeking out his tweets so they can be offended.

It's just the usual "disgusted from Tunbridge Wells" nonsense.

[Jay28jay2]

I don't think homophobia is the same as pro-nazi...

[ThriceShy]

That's a good question actually. If the tweets are so offensive then why do people keep reposting them on here?

[Marsh.]

That's a good question actually.

Is it really?

[Amy Jade]

ThriceShy you convinently forgot to post the definition of '***'

Am I surprised...:laugh:

[Marsh.]

the Nazis ended after the second world war, it was a political and military party in Germany.

You need another metaphor

It's not a metaphor. She had the uniform and everything. :fist:

[ThriceShy]

Is it really?

Well it seemed to stump you.

[Marsh.]

Well it seemed to stump you.

Did it really?

[ThriceShy]

Did it really?

Take a shot at answering it then.

I am fascinated by the mentally of people who would find some racist offensive tweets then rush to share them so dozens of others can be offended.

[Marsh.]

Take a shot at answering it then.

I am fascinated by the mentally of people who would find some racist offensive tweets then rush to share them so dozens of others can be offended.

Well, I haven't posted any tweets.

Are you suggesting I answer on their behalf?

[Amy Jade]

Take a shot at answering it then.

I am fascinated by the mentally of people who would find some racist offensive tweets then rush to share them so dozens of others can be offended.
Marsh didn't post them so maybe you should try asking the right person.

:hee:

[Pete.]

I didn't think that Tila should have been removed for outside comments, so in that sense Amdrew should not be, but since Tila was removed I guess Andrew should be too. I guess I'm on the fence

[Marsh.]

How dare someone come across information about a Big Brother contestant and share said information on a forum dedicated to discussing Big Brother contestants.

The mind boggles with that kind of logic.

[ThriceShy]

Marsh shouldn't have responded to the post then.

[Marsh.]

Marsh shouldn't have responded to the post then.

I'm free to respond to whatever posts I like.

Maybe you should keep track of who you're conversing with and not get posters mixed up?

[ThriceShy]

How dare someone come across information about a Big Brother contestant and share said information on a forum dedicated to discussing Big Brother contestants.
I
The mind boggles with that kind of logic.

But if, for example, that downs syndrome tweet is so vile and offensive then why would you want others offended by it?

If those tweets are racist then the people posting them on here are posting racist tweets. In my book that is as bad as the original author.

[Amy Jade]

Marsh shouldn't have responded to the post then.

He's allowed to respond to anyone he wishes.

Like you decide to not respond to me questioning you over the derogatory slang word *** :hee:

[Marsh.]

But if, for example, that downs syndrome tweet is so vile and offensive then why would you want others offended by it?

If those tweets are racist then the people posting them on here are posting racist tweets. In my book that is as bad as the original author.

That's like saying someone who provides evidence of a crime is as guilty as the perpetrator. That kind of logic doesn't hold up.

[Jack_]

no jack i did not say that, but both groups are quite capable of fighting back


that was my point

but way to go to try and get leverage from it

:umm2:

Well actually you were defending him and agreeing with other's defences of him in the other thread up until it emerged he'd mocked those with down syndrome

People being able to fight back doesn't make discrimination any more or less acceptable. Again, it isn't a competition. You wouldn't say of an adult male victim of assault compared to that of a female child victim, 'well he could've fought back!', would you? Both are wrong and it's the same here

I do agree but then it's each persons take on it I suppose? Not trying to single you out/bring up things from before (so apologies if this comes across that way), but I remember you saying that in your opinion, Helen didn't bully Jale in BB15 but did Brian in BB16. So it's that kinda thing if that makes sense, we all have a perception of what's worse than the other.

I don't see how that's really comparable though. The Helen incidents were open to interpretation, Andrew's comments aren't - they just exist objectively

LT didn't seem bothered when it was just the homophobic tweets being shared, but did when the down syndrome one emerged

[ThriceShy]

No is winning with more than 70% of the vote

We aren't such delicate flowers after all.

[VanessaFeltz.]

These tweets are useful because we can clearly see how people are thinking... or used to think.

[Jordan.]

This is NOT an argument thread, don't get into rows please :laugh:

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[Jack_]

He's allowed to respond to anyone he wishes.

Like you decide to not respond to me questioning you over the derogatory slang word *** :hee:

He didn't respond when I provided him with the stats he asked for in the last thread either

It figures

[Headie]

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Time for mods to close the thread
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[ThriceShy]

He didn't respond when I provided him with the stats he asked for in the last thread either

It figures

There is quite a good reason for that. The people I was wiping the floor with got it closed.

[bots]

Offence is taken not given. If you find his tweets offensive then don't read them. People are now seeking out his tweets so they can be offended.

It's just the usual "disgusted from Tunbridge Wells" nonsense.

Peoples character is judged by their behaviour, and part of that is what they write and put their name to. Copying that information so that others can make their own judgement on what is published does not mean they agree with it unless they say so, or they were the original writer

[Marsh.]

It's always poor Hayden's threads.

Stick to Lost hun.

[Jack_]

There is quite a good reason for that. The people I was wiping the floor with got it closed.

Not true. You responded to about five posts that came after mine before the thread got locked.

You wiped the floor with nobody, especially not the facts I presented you with

[smudgie]

He sounds a right charmer.
No doubt if he still has the same attitude he will get voted out anyway.

[T*]

I think his comments are disgusting and I don't agree or condone them whatsoever, but I voted No. And Tila shouldn't have been removed either as that was stupid.

But if and when he says something racist, homophobic, or bigoted inside the house then chuck him out in a heartbeat.

i feel like C5 may cover it up like that **** in a fridge incident

[Jack_]

It's always poor Hayden's threads.

Stick to Lost hun.

:joker:

The BB17 thread, the last one, this thread

Quite a track record

[Marsh.]

i feel like C5 may cover it up like that **** in a fridge incident

Unless they want him purposely for his controversy to bring attention to the show, like with Winston.

[ThriceShy]

Not true. You responded to about five posts that came after mine before the thread got locked.

You wiped the floor with nobody, especially not the facts I presented you with

Please stick to the topic of thie thread.

70% no. I think that just about says it all.

[Jack_]

Please stick to the topic of thie thread.

70% no. I think that just about says it all.

:joker:

And here ladies and gentlemen, is the post which says it all

Goodnight.

[ThriceShy]

:joker:

And here ladies and gentlemen, is the post which says it all

Goodnight.


You go to bed early. Headache?

[reece(:]

Please stick to the topic of thie thread.

70% no. I think that just about says it all.

It's two different threads so to carry on a debate from the last then use a statistic from this thread is absurd.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Please stick to the topic of thie thread.

70% no. I think that just about says it all.

%70 of us said no to eject someone on day 2 because of this past comments.

Most of us dont believe that someone has a right to speak with pure hate that offends millions of people without the consequences

[LukeB]

I don't think he should have entered in the first place if they already knew like Tila she shouldn't have entered so it's only fair to eject him. I'm going to judge him on what he is like during the house but I would also like to see his tweets expose like they did with Winston. It's only fair.

[Candy Annie Cane]

Just because 70% say he shouldn't be evicted doesn't mean they in anyway agree with the tweets. I'm sure if there was a poll on that the result would be very different

[Jamie89]

Omg at those tweets :omgno:

If it's something that's worthy of stopping you entering the house in the first place (as plastering derogatory comments about sexuality, race and mental disability absolutely should imo), then it's enough to warrant an ejection.

Totally agree :clap1: (And I agreed with Tila's ejection, for the record)

[Jack_]

You go to bed early. Headache?

From reading your posts? Yeah

[sampvt]

LMAO my views are outdated?! Are you taking the piss?

And considering this is an 'entertainment show' (which you're right, it is), it's funny that almost every series you can guarantee you'll be campaigning for the entertaining housemates to be evicted and championing some dullard

Andrew is a housemate in Big Brother. A housemate who has made comments regarding race, homosexuality and disability. Therefore we, including myself, are discussing them. It's pretty self explanatory if you think about it.

Firstly what he said was a long time ago and to a friend on social media, not the show, so that's a strange thing to do, seeing as how you are always banging on about judging people on what they do on the show and secondly I don't really spend a lot of time following your views and opinions because they are virtually all verbatim and generally about homosexual issues which is understood, accepted and very well discussed TO DEATH. in closing, we get your point ok, now enjoy the show for what it is, entertainment and arguments. Most of us don't give a toss about what someone said when you were still at school Jack.

[Jake.]

I don't see how that's really comparable though. The Helen incidents were open to interpretation, Andrew's comments aren't - they just exist objectively

LT didn't seem bothered when it was just the homophobic tweets being shared, but did when the down syndrome one emerged

Yeah that's true, I think my point made more sense in my head

[Lostie!]

It's two different threads so to carry on a debate from the last then use a statistic from this thread is absurd.

%70 of us said no to eject someone on day 2 because of this past comments.

Most of us dont believe that someone has a right to speak with pure hate that offends millions of people without the consequences

Just because 70% say he shouldn't be evicted doesn't mean they in anyway agree with the tweets. I'm sure if there was a poll on that the result would be very different

:clap2: :clap2:

[ThriceShy]

From reading your posts? Yeah

I ask tough questions don't I. Sorry.

[Heaven = Winner]

Neither deserve/d to be ejected tbh.

[Jack_]

Firstly what he said was a long time ago and to a friend on social media, not the show, so that's a strange thing to do, seeing as how you are always banging on about judging people on what they do on the show and secondly I don't really spend a lot of time following your views and opinions because they are virtually all verbatim and generally about homosexual issues which is understood, accepted and very well discussed TO DEATH. in closing, we get your point ok, now enjoy the show for what it is, entertainment and arguments. Most of us don't give a toss about what someone said when you were still at school Jack.

In case you missed it, I've already said I think people jumping down Andrew's throat for comments he made four years ago is a little over the top. I've also said he, just like Tila, shouldn't be ejected for comments made outside of the house, only those made inside. So why you're preaching this to me is a little confusing - yet again it seems I've encountered someone who doesn't read threads through before they post in them. The comments are being discussed because people on this forum are agreeing with them now, in the present, that's all.

And for your information, I wasn't in school four years ago.

I ask tough questions don't I. Sorry.

Yep! Tough questions which you receive detailed answers to and then ignore

I pose such tough responses don't I? Sorry

[Marsh.]

I ask tough questions don't I.

Do you really?

[Headie]

It's always poor Hayden's threads.

Stick to Lost hun.

:joker:

[Headie]

:joker:

The BB17 thread, the last one, this thread

Quite a track record

I want my justice
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[billy123]

Rinse and repeat ZZZZZZZZZZzz..... I didnt bother posting last night as the same people were posting the same whinges as a year ago. Lets hope the thread quality improves.

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[VanessaFeltz.]

rip hayden

[Black Dagger]

No I hate ejections based on stuff out of the house, Tila's was unjustifed and so would be his. If he goes on a tirade against the gays in the house and starts calling Natalie racist names then boot him.

[Northern Monkey]

No!

[Withano]

Nah, they let that UKIP bloke stay, hes done nothing worse than him

[ThriceShy]

73% no.

Nice to see common sense prevail on the forum. But then it usually does. Just because a few posters think they are always right, it doesn't mean they are,

[hot2go]

No one shud be kicked out for events from their past....it's not relevant to the game....if the tweets from the witch hunt are even real then whatever the reason he was so immature 4 years ago he clearly ain't that stupid now....he's the most intelligent one from the others .. ...those tweets are from someone stupid ..if they were him then he's clearly not that guy anymore

[hot2go]

Natalie was rude and out of order to accuse him of being two faced in front of all the others...it's his first day....she obv thinks she's the boss of him and she's not the boss of anyone yet...I think she may find she's knocked on the wrong door there cause he's kind of guy that will erase her from the game...she's made an enemy for sure and that's dumb on the first day.

[Lostie!]

73% no.

Nice to see common sense prevail on the forum. But then it usually does. Just because a few posters think they are always right, it doesn't mean they are,

Might wanna take that into account yourself, you know. :joker:

And as various people pointed out earlier, the No percentage doesn't in anyway represent approval of the awful things he said so you're still in the minority on that front. Repeating the result of this poll over and over again doesn't change that. :)

No one shud be kicked out for events from their past....it's not relevant to the game....if the tweets from the witch hunt are even real then whatever the reason he was so immature 4 years ago he clearly ain't that stupid now....he's the most intelligent one from the others .. ...those tweets are from someone stupid ..if they were him then he's clearly not that guy anymore

He consistently seemed like an arsehole tonight so I see no reason to think he's matured whatsoever (and he wasn't a naive kid at the time in the first place).

And he can harp on about being the most intelligent all he likes. If he really was, he'd be playing it a lot better than he did tonight.

[Headie]

Natalie was rude and out of order to accuse him of being two faced in front of all the others...it's his first day....she obv thinks she's the boss of him and she's not the boss of anyone yet...I think she may find she's knocked on the wrong door there cause he's kind of guy that will erase her from the game...she's made an enemy for sure and that's dumb on the first day.

He shouldn't have given her a dirty look then, clearly was trying to look cool & superior but shriveled into a quiet mouse when she confronted him :laugh:

[Marsh.]

If he was intelligent he'd have read up on the rules of BBUK before entering.

This isn't BBUS mate.

[Jack_]

If he was intelligent he'd have read up on the rules of BBUK before entering.

This isn't BBUS mate.

Yeah, but 'the game is changing'!

For what it's worth I thought he was good tonight. I'm definitely here for a housemate who's willing to be ruthless and actually play a game on a gameshow (if he's allowed to under whatever format they've concocted this time)

I don't think we should be judging him on tweets from four years ago, or really what exactly is the point in the show existing? We may as well just decide who has the cleanest background, crown them the winner and all go home now

[hot2go]

He shouldn't have given her a dirty look then, clearly was trying to look cool & superior but shriveled into a quiet mouse when she confronted him :laugh:

If he don't like her that's his perogative, it doesn't make him two faced and give her the right to accuse him of being a mole in front of everyone....she's obv someone who doesn't expect people to dislike her.....she will live to regret that, he will win that battle no question

[Marsh.]

Yeah, but 'the game is changing'!

Prove it. :oh:

It's the same old sh*t so far. :fist:

[Jack_]

Prove it. :oh:

It's the same old sh*t so far. :fist:

I was being half sarcastic :laugh:

It probably will be the same old crap that you can't play a proper game under but at least he's gonna try. They've been told they have to win a place in the main house, he seems the most bothered and determined so far

[Marsh.]

I was being half sarcastic :laugh:

It probably will be the same old crap that you can't play a proper game under but at least he's gonna try

:clap1:

[hot2go]

He played it well tonight...while all the others were either cackling like idiots or being drowned out by Ryans needy winy gob he was listening to everything on the screen and planning his escape

[Marsh.]

He played it well tonight...while all the others were either cackling like idiots or being drowned out by Ryans needy winy gob he was listening to everything on the screen and planning his escape

As long as the viewers are in control he has no escape to plan.

[Gstar]

I wanna see if he has potential first and tbh I liked what I seen tonight

[Jordan.]

Yeah I enjoyed him tonight. He's definitely one of the "diverse" housemates in there.

[Headie]

she will live to regret that, he will win that battle no question

The battle has already been won, and it's not by Andrew
https://uploadir.com/u/2y59lx9n

[Rob!]

Having watched the first episode do I bollocks, he's going to be an amazing housemate.

[hot2go]

The battle has already been won, and it's not by Andrew
https://uploadir.com/u/2y59lx9n

Seems that not everyone agrees with you on that one.......she's telling Hughie that she didn't like him at first but now he's got her approval...she's telling Andrew she doesn't trust him...like she's giving them appraisals ....very arrogant ....and very stupid....

[hot2go]

I think he's a cool customer who will stay focused...I think she's gonna be explosive and lose her sh-t very early in the game ...and she ain't young enough or glamorous enough to pull that off....

[Headie]

Seems that not everyone agrees with you on that one.......she's telling Hughie that she didn't like him at first but now he's got her approval...she's telling Andrew she doesn't trust him...like she's giving them appraisals ....very arrogant ....and very stupid....

http://i.imgur.com/ueRkDZh.gif

[Marsh.]

Hayden :joker:

[hot2go]

Personally I can't wait to watch em battle it out...about time there was a bloke with balls to take on one of the gobby cows....all the blokes last time were scared of Tiffany but this guy ain't gonna be scared...the look on his face was clear that he's gonna go for her

[jet]

I have never got the I 'judge people from what they do in the house' mentality. People don't miraculously change the moment they enter the BB house, and their past feelings don't miraculously disappear as if they were never a part of them. I take heed of past deeds, and how the person appears to be now, for the the BB audience. BOTH are important. They are putting themselves out there to be judged, after all. Past and present - and both are relevant in my book.

[Vicky.]

I think there was more behind the scenes with Tilas ejection tbh, the past tweets and such were just a happy coincidence that they could blamer it on.

Anyway, no I don't think he should be removed. I'm sure if you looked hard enough that a fair few more housemates have said or done questionable things before going into the house. I judge them on how they are IN there...except if I know them from before the show, which has only ever happened once :laugh:

[fitz2k2]

no lol.big brother kept in racist men in the house for weeks

[jet]

I think there was more behind the scenes with Tilas ejection tbh, the past tweets and such were just a happy coincidence that they could blamer it on.

Anyway, no I don't think he should be removed. I'm sure if you looked hard enough that a fair few more housemates have said or done questionable things before going into the house. I judge them on how they are IN there...except if I know them from before the show, which has only ever happened once :laugh:

But...but....they are going to want to be at their best in there....which is not really REAL, even when pushed to their limits. Everyone is watching....Which is why I never get 'judge them on how they are in there'. Surely what they get up to in RL is more the real THEM, not they watered down 'I'm on TV version'.

[armand.kay]

No he's a dick but ejecting him would be more ridiculous than ejecting tila was.

[Vicky.]

But...but....they are going to want to be at their best in there....which is not really REAL, even when pushed to their limits. Everyone is watching....Which is why I never get 'judge them on how they are in there'. Surely what they get up to in RL is more the real THEM, not they watered down 'I'm on TV version'.

You only tend to get the watered down TV version for a week or so. They can't keep a mask up 24/7 :p

Also tbh this is an entertainment program to me. I don't really give a **** about the morals of the people who are entertaining me... This may be wrong, but thats how I look at it :laugh:

[jet]

You only tend to get the watered down TV version for a week or so. They can't keep a mask up 24/7 :p

Also tbh this is an entertainment program to me. I don't really give a **** about the morals of the people who are entertaining me... This may be wrong, but thats how I look at it :laugh:

Fair enough. I wish I was the same. I would prob enjoy it better. :hehe:
I want the good and the pure of heart to come out on top (as I perceive!). Pity me. I'm dead serious too. :bawling:

[Jack_]

I have never got the I 'judge people from what they do in the house' mentality. People don't miraculously change the moment they enter the BB house, and their past feelings don't miraculously disappear as if they were never a part of them. I take heed of past deeds, and how the person appears to be now, for the the BB audience. BOTH are important. They are putting themselves out there to be judged, after all. Past and present - and both are relevant in my book.

Because the point of Big Brother is to judge them as housemates within the confines of an entertainment programme. If it isn't, we may as well just look at each of their track records, see who has the cleanest background, crown them the winner and go home :shrug:

Once you enter the house, you should be on a blank slate and your actions within it determine your fate. Or else what's the point of the show?

[reece(:]

He's trying what Anton did and failing just as bad.

[jet]

Because the point of Big Brother is to judge them as housemates within the confines of an entertainment programme. If it isn't, we may as well just look at each of their track records, see who has the cleanest background, crown them the winner and go home :shrug:

Once you enter the house, you should be on a blank slate and your actions within it determine your fate. Or else what's the point of the show?

That's fine if you can blank the HM's past history. Not everyone can. I can't, and I doubt I'm alone. The HM's aren't new born babes, after all, if info about them is out there, for good or bad, how do you not be influenced by that to some extent? You have to be in some shape or form. It's human nature.
Also, people can redeem themselves and people with the cleanest history may not automatically endear themselves to you. It't not that simple. People are complicated, including us viewers. :shrug:

[Jack_]

That's fine if you can blank the HM's past history. Not everyone can. I can't, and I doubt I'm alone. The HM's aren't new born babes, after all, if info about them is out there, for good or bad, how do you not be influenced by that to some extent? You have to be in some shape or form. It's human nature.
Also, people can redeem themselves and people with the cleanest history may not automatically endear themselves to you. It't not that simple. People are complicated, including us viewers. :shrug:

Because I'm not judging them as people, I'm judging them as housemates - there's a difference and that's the point of the show. Big Brother is not real life, it's a false reality and an entertainment programme. Whatever has gone on in the lives of those who take part in it, be it positive or negative, is entirely irrelevant to their actions on the actual show.

Andrew's tweets have shown him up to be a bit of a dickhead, yes. Does that mean he's going to be a bad housemate? No. Can we judge him properly as a housemate on night one? No.

[jet]

Because I'm not judging them as people, I'm judging them as housemates - there's a difference and that's the point of the show. Big Brother is not real life, it's a false reality and an entertainment programme. Whatever has gone on in the lives of those who take part in it, be it positive or negative, is entirely irrelevant to their actions on the actual show.

Andrew's tweets have shown him up to be a bit of a dickhead, yes. Does that mean he's going to be a bad housemate? No. Can we judge him properly as a housemate on night one? No.

I have to disagree Jack. BB is real life, because the people in the house are real people with emotions and pasts and they can't suddenly become cartoon characters when they enter the house. They are still real; albeit some of them trying to be something they are not for as long as they can to fool us! :hee:
Their pasts may be irrelevant to you, and that is absolutely fine FOR you, but it's not the same for everyone. As I said before though, people can redeem themselves even if their pasts have been less than stellar; one of the delights of BB is how people can surprise you....so nobody is written off because of bad press. THAT is the point of the show to me...there is good and bad in everyone and the show brings that out in ways we don't always foresee at the start....

[Jack_]

I have to disagree Jack. BB is real life, because the people in the house are real people with emotions and pasts and they can't suddenly become cartoon characters when they enter the house. They are still real; albeit some of them trying to be something they are not for as long as they can to fool us! :hee:
Their pasts may be irrelevant to you, and that is absolutely fine FOR you, but it's not the same for everyone. As I said before though, people can redeem themselves even if their pasts have been less than stellar; one of the delights of BB is how people can surprise you....so nobody is written off because of bad press. THAT is the point of the show to me...there is good and bad in everyone and the show brings that out in ways we don't always foresee at the start....

But they are cartoon characters? Big Brother is a cartoon show. It hasn't been a social experiment since about 2003. They are merely characters in one of the most false environments on television, it's like an unscripted soap opera. You cannot tell me Big Brother is real life because it isn't, and therefore the real lives of the people who enter to become housemates and characters are just not relevant to what occurs within the confines of a glorified television set.

How can people redeem themselves or surprise us if we don't know their pasts? This may be true for Celebrity Big Brother because the lives of the housemates are well documented (although I still think it's silly not to judge the celebs on a blank slate), but for the civilians? Absolutely not. I mean sure, the forums and social media have uncovered some pretty nasty tweets made by Andrew - but they were four years ago for starters and let's be honest, you cannot gauge what a person is truly like from their social media account, this is true for everyone.

Unless you suggest we get the entire documented history of each and every housemate with character references from those who know them and every single detail of everything they've ever done good or bad, we just simply do not know them, and it is silly to suggest otherwise. We get to know them - in the 48 minutes we have a night mind you - on the television show we are watching. That is the point of the programme.

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

I think the point to Big brother is akin to a social experiment in that we throw a diverse group in together and watch fireworks go off. There is a boundary where it ceases to become entertaining and people in the house tend to draw that line on their own.

Winston was almost ejected for his behavior and rightfully he was voted out. I personally would rather see situations where someone's behavior draws ire than to have total censorship. Sometimes people need to see why some behavior is totally wrong... There are people who are on both sides of the fence in the public and though some may not share the same opinion as you and I, they can see for themselves when the logic falls flat on issues such as gay marriage, etc

[Lstan]

I would say no only because if so we would miss queen Natalie sorting him out!

[Ammi]

...surely BB researchers must know these things anyway if they're so easy to find...but no, I don't think that he should be ejected just because his tweets have become known..it will be interesting to hear his thoughts now, 4 years on..prejudices/bigotry etc are sadly still so much a part of society and to deny him his place in the house, to me would seem like denying the existence of that and 'turning away from it', rather than taking an opportunity to discuss it..that's the good thing I think about reality TV, it does touch on so many elements of society as well with the mixture of characters it allows voices to.../that's important I think, for us to understand more, even with things we might find quite unpleasant../distasteful etc....

[MB.]

Was Ahmed ejected? Then no

[hot2go]

Because the point of Big Brother is to judge them as housemates within the confines of an entertainment programme. If it isn't, we may as well just look at each of their track records, see who has the cleanest background, crown them the winner and go home :shrug:


:laugh: That's funny....

That system wud certainly change the outcome of last few years, starting with last years winner

[hot2go]

That's fine if you can blank the HM's past history. Not everyone can. I can't, and I doubt I'm alone. The HM's aren't new born babes, after all, if info about them is out there, for good or bad, how do you not be influenced by that to some extent? You have to be in some shape or form. It's human nature.
Also, people can redeem themselves and people with the cleanest history may not automatically endear themselves to you. It't not that simple. People are complicated, including us viewers. :shrug:

Hello again Jet...I agree with your message....it's fair

it is hard to blank out their history, I certainly couldn't with last years winner and my view on her is still exactly the same...but this guy I know nothing about...I don't even know if the tweets are real....but mostly I don't know anything about his background, his influences or the people around him when he was younger....people don't show fear like that and ignorance like that for no reason and I agree with you, people can change and redeem themselves....I refuse to judge this guy without knowing the facts....I saw insecurity in the others but not in him yet...Natalie confrontational...Ryan shouting over everyone and Charlie passive aggressive ...but this guy so far has done nothing other than appear measured and a potentially good game player ...

[chriskicks]

they should out him during a task like that guy who made a homophobic comment last season. winston was it?

[hot2go]

At this stage I neither like or dislike the guy....like with most of them so far....I like Andy, Georgina and Hughie so far but even that may change...too early to call it yet...but I def don't dislike him based on gossip from his past

[ThriceShy]

As long as the viewers are in control he has no escape to plan.

LOL at still thinking the viewers are in control of this show.:laugh:

[hot2go]

they should out him during a task like that guy who made a homophobic comment last season. winston was it?

They won't do that unless he changes his strategy ..they know he's gonna be too good a housemate

[Peppermint]

Absolutely not. Tila should have never been either. They should only be ejected based upon instances that occur within in the house. I'm sure you could find reasons to eject a good few of them if you looked into their backgrounds and histories.

[Denver]

Tila was ejected for something far worse not similar

[Denver]

Its gonna be a long series with housemates backgrounds being pulled up to use against peoples faves :worry:

[Livia]

My question has got to be, why the **** has he been allowed in there after comments like that?

[ThriceShy]

My question has got to be, why the **** has he been allowed in there after comments like that?

Why shouldn't they let him in? Do daft twitter jokes mean you can never live your life?:shrug:

[Livia]

Why shouldn't they let him in? Do daft twitter jokes mean you can never live your life?:shrug:

Only when those "daft Twitter jokes" are homophobic, racist and deeply offensive. And if he doesn't know that he's a bigger dick than I already think he is.

[ThriceShy]

Only when those "daft Twitter jokes" are homophobic, racist and deeply offensive. And if he doesn't know that he's a bigger dick than I already think he is.

So what should happen? He should live on the dole for the rest of his life because some delicate flowers sought out his old tweets and queued up to take offence at them?

Perhaps he should be branded on his forehead with the word "twitter troll" so that everyone knows never to employ him again.

[Livia]

So what should happen? He should live on the dole for the rest of his life because some delicate flowers sought out his old tweets and queued up to take offence at them?

Perhaps he should be branded on his forehead with the word "twitter troll" so that everyone knows never to employ him again.

To be honest, she's already shown me he's a bigot, so I really couldn't give a sh1t what happens to him. But he definitely shouldn't be on the telly.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

It looks like he could be thrown out for that. Let's see what happens.

[ThriceShy]

So what does the OP think of the response to his poll?

He made a big point of saying that he just wanted the poll and no arguing. So does he accept the result or what?:shrug:

[Livia]

So what does the OP think of the response to his poll?

He made a big point of saying that he just wanted the poll and no arguing. So does he accept the result or what?:shrug:

There hasn't been any arguing.

[Headie]

So what does the OP think of the response to his poll?

He made a big point of saying that he just wanted the poll and no arguing. So does he accept the result or what?:shrug:

Yeah? Everyone's entitled to their opinion on whether he should be ejected, and after some of he responses in the thread my view has changed a little.

I voted yes from a consistency basis - i.e. it's inconsistent/unfair for them to kick out Tila and not do the same for Andrew. However I do agree with those saying that he should only be ejected if he does something bad in the house (which is what I thought should've been done for Tila).

I guess my desire for the show to be consistent and fair won over in influencing my vote in the poll on this occasion.

But to answer your question, yes I accept the result, if not I would've said "only vote in the poll if you agree with me!!!" :joker:

[Livia]

Yeah? Everyone's entitled to their opinion on whether he should be ejected, and after some of he responses in the thread my view has changed a little.

I voted yes from a consistency basis - i.e. it's inconsistent/unfair for them to kick out Tila and not do the same for Andrew. However I do agree with those saying that he should only be ejected if he does something bad in the house (which is what I thought should've been done for Tila).

I guess my desire for the show to be consistent and fair won over in influencing my vote in the poll on this occasion.

But to answer your question, yes I accept the result, if not I would've said "only vote in the poll if you agree with me!!!" :joker:

So it's perfectly fine for someone to post blatantly racist things on the Internet and get away with it because they didn't say it in the house. But is isn't okay for someone to black up as a joke not meant to offend anyone, before they were in the house.

That's some twisted kind of logic there, Hayden.

[Mitchell]

No, as it was in the past. If it was like a few months ago then fair enough but it was 4 years ago and I think people are slightly making a big deal out of it.

But last year people dug up years old Danny and he was judged for them, if Andrew was 19 at the time or whatever I'd understand, but he was 25.

My opinion is that he shouldn't, but considering they ejected Tila for her comments, I think he should.

[Headie]

So it's perfectly fine for someone to post blatantly racist things on the Internet and get away with it because they didn't say it in the house. But is isn't okay for someone to black up as a joke not meant to offend anyone, before they were in the house.

That's some twisted kind of logic there, Hayden.

No, it's not okay at all, and I don't think he should've been cast in the first place - however producers shouldn't eject him in the house AFTER they have had what, 3 or 4 months to do a background check on this guy, spent money putting him in hiding, creating his profile shots etc just for him to be ejected in week 1 like Tila. Now that he's in the house, he should only be ejected once he says something offensive (which he probably will), but from a consistency point of view, he should be ejected like Tila.

I'm struggling to express my point clearly, I know I sound like a hypocritical mess all over the place, but it makes sense in my head :laugh:

[jet]

But they are cartoon characters? Big Brother is a cartoon show. It hasn't been a social experiment since about 2003. They are merely characters in one of the most false environments on television, it's like an unscripted soap opera. You cannot tell me Big Brother is real life because it isn't, and therefore the real lives of the people who enter to become housemates and characters are just not relevant to what occurs within the confines of a glorified television set.

How can people redeem themselves or surprise us if we don't know their pasts? This may be true for Celebrity Big Brother because the lives of the housemates are well documented (although I still think it's silly not to judge the celebs on a blank slate), but for the civilians? Absolutely not. I mean sure, the forums and social media have uncovered some pretty nasty tweets made by Andrew - but they were four years ago for starters and let's be honest, you cannot gauge what a person is truly like from their social media account, this is true for everyone.

Unless you suggest we get the entire documented history of each and every housemate with character references from those who know them and every single detail of everything they've ever done good or bad, we just simply do not know them, and it is silly to suggest otherwise. We get to know them - in the 48 minutes we have a night mind you - on the television show we are watching. That is the point of the programme.

No need to go over the top. If something comes to light about a HM, it's human nature to be influenced by that according to your own set of values and morals. Over the course of the series you then change your mind or have your impression of them confirmed.

But they are cartoon characters?

No they aren't. That's why BB is called a REALITY show. You can't leave yourself behind when you walk into that house and become a different character....You'll always bring yourself along. :hehe:

[Headie]

His comments have reached the wider press now :clap1:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/big-brothers-andrew-tate-faces-8147116

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-brother/521766/Big-Brother-Andrew-Tate-homophobic-racist-tweets

[lime]

I see his brother said on twitter to google his farther Emory tate ...(fairly famous chess player who has passed away).He was mixed race but when I looked at his twitter ,he also tweeted the one about gays wanting your children.....must be some type of family motto

[Headie]

His comments have reached the wider press now :clap1:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/big-brothers-andrew-tate-faces-8147116

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-brother/521766/Big-Brother-Andrew-Tate-homophobic-racist-tweets

Not the DailyStar using Thisisbigbrother as a source :clap1:

[Ross.]

get that promo TiBB!

[Merry Mockmas]

Unless he supports Nazism or the KKK, or joins these sort of groups then no he shouldn't be thrown out.

The show imo shouldn't be having someone on the show that supports evil regimes by the actual law, which is why Tila was thrown out.

[Jordan.]

Not the DailyStar using Thisisbigbrother as a source :clap1:

Dd

[reece(:]

TiBB getting that inside scoop

[Tom4784]

Give him enough rope to hang himself with, he's desperate to make people believe he is smart but those outbursts on Twitter say otherwise, he'll slip up in the house, say something racist/homophobic/mysoginist and get thrown out.

[Amy Jade]

Hayden, TiBB's very own promo gal

[Headie]

Daily Star Online has contacted a representative for Big Brother for comment, who said: "Big Brother does not condone any kind of racist or homophobic behaviour in the House. If offensive comments of that sort are made in the house, Big Brother will deal with them appropriately, in accordance with its long-standing protocols."

Not C5 pretending Tila doesn't exist

[sampvt]

Hayden, TiBB's very own promo gal

Well Ill be, Hayden a girl, I never expected that.

[Headie]

Hayden, TiBB's very own promo gal

:joker:

[Headie]

Well Ill be, Hayden a girl, I never expected that.

She was joking lmao

[hot2go]

Chloe Wilburn robbed a family man while he tried to earn a living then put his livelihood and his reputation at risk by falsely accusing him of trying to abuse her so she cover up her own appalling behaviour ....wasn't rumour or just Twitter messages, her actual police record confirmed it...a lot of the people on here screaming for Andrews eviction are the same people who made her the winner of BB2015...

[reece(:]

*Chloe WINburn*

[Tom4784]

Chloe Wilburn robbed a family man while he tried to earn a living then put his livelihood and his reputation at risk by falsely accusing him of trying to abuse her so she cover up her own appalling behaviour ....wasn't rumour or just Twitter messages, her actual police record confirmed it...a lot of the people on here screaming for Andrews eviction are the same people who made her the winner of BB2015...

https://thenewtag.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/apples-and-oranges-resized-600-jpg.png

[hot2go]

*Chloe WINburn*

My wrong spelling of her surname is the only thing that you can challenge because it's the only thing I didn't get quite correct ...if that's the best you got then best maybe not bother eh

[hot2go]

erm @ Andy, a BBC journalist sacked for tackling a homophobic/sexist boxer, being in the same house as Andrew, a homophobic/sexist boxer :worry:

That's an interesting concept ....maybe the dynamics between the two of them will prove or disprove all the theories being thrown about..

[Josy]

Chloe Wilburn robbed a family man while he tried to earn a living then put his livelihood and his reputation at risk by falsely accusing him of trying to abuse her so she cover up her own appalling behaviour ....wasn't rumour or just Twitter messages, her actual police record confirmed it...a lot of the people on here screaming for Andrews eviction are the same people who made her the winner of BB2015...
Good point.

[hot2go]

Just because people assume the Twitter messages are genuine and def Andrews doesn't necessarily confirm they are...Lenny Henry was knighted by the Queen last year and the BBC used a video of Ainsley Harriot on news at ten

[Headie]

Chloe Wilburn robbed a family man while he tried to earn a living then put his livelihood and his reputation at risk by falsely accusing him of trying to abuse her so she cover up her own appalling behaviour ....wasn't rumour or just Twitter messages, her actual police record confirmed it...a lot of the people on here screaming for Andrews eviction are the same people who made her the winner of BB2015...

By that logic if you think Chloe didn't deserve to win then Andrew doesn't deserve to win either?

[Headie]

Just because people assume the Twitter messages are genuine and def Andrews doesn't necessarily confirm they are...Lenny Henry was knighted by the Queen last year and the BBC used a video of Ainsley Harriot on news at ten

I love contextual comparisons

[Livia]

Just because people assume the Twitter messages are genuine and def Andrews doesn't necessarily confirm they are...Lenny Henry was knighted by the Queen last year and the BBC used a video of Ainsley Harriot on news at ten

Yes, and the Ainsley Harriet thing was a really stupid mistake; but not vindictive. Not the same as insulting a whole community and being too dickish to understand that this stuff follows you around.

[hot2go]

By that logic if you think Chloe didn't deserve to win then Andrew doesn't deserve to win either?

What logic ?...Chloe's crime was actual and directiy targeted a real life victim...it was also confirmed by her police record...Andrews accused of childish and bigotted tweets with a friend...most importantly it's not been proved and he's not had chance to defend himself....Chloe was proved and she had chance to defend herself but instead tried to ruin a guys life to cover her tracks ....
Innocent till proven guilty ....not guilty till proven innocent ....she was proven to be guilty he hasn't been

[Ross.]

https://thenewtag.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/apples-and-oranges-resized-600-jpg.png

:joker:

[BB4fan]

So do channel 5 always have to put someone in the house on launch that they can boot out a few days later then pretend it wasn't to give the person more media attention?

It's getting old now.

[Headie]

What logic ?...Chloe's crime was actual and directiy targeted a real life victim...it was also confirmed by her police record...Andrews accused of childish and bigotted tweets with a friend...most importantly it's not been proved and he's not had chance to defend himself....Chloe was proved and she had chance to defend herself but instead tried to ruin a guys life to cover her tracks ....
Innocent till proven guilty ....not guilty till proven innocent ....she was proven to be guilty he hasn't been

The proof is all there for Andrew though? He tweeted those things, there's evidence, it's fact. No "accusations" whatsoever.

So, like I said, if you think Chloe did not deserve to win for her hate crimes then neither should Andrew.

[nonstop]

No. He never made those comments as a housemate.

[hot2go]

The proof is all there for Andrew though? He tweeted those things, there's evidence, it's fact. No "accusations" whatsoever.

So, like I said, if you think Chloe did not deserve to win for her hate crimes then neither should Andrew.

She didn't get booted out so he shouldn't get booted out...she got the majority vote and won....so by that logic.....so can he.....I recognise some of the Chloe fans on here that want him out... the hypocrisy is staggering

[Headie]

She didn't get booted out so he shouldn't get booted out...she got the majority vote and won....so by that logic.....so can he.....I recognise some of the Chloe fans on here that want him out... the hypocrisy is staggering

Tila got booted out - by your logic Andrew should be too :hee:

[ThriceShy]

Chloe Wilburn robbed a family man while he tried to earn a living then put his livelihood and his reputation at risk by falsely accusing him of trying to abuse her so she cover up her own appalling behaviour ....wasn't rumour or just Twitter messages, her actual police record confirmed it...a lot of the people on here screaming for Andrews eviction are the same people who made her the winner of BB2015...


Great post.

[Headie]

Gina Rio ‏@iamGinaRio 2h2 hours ago
If @bbuk don't remove Andrew I'm never having anything to do with the show again #Troll #Racist #Prick

Andrew must be removed then, it's decided :clap1:

[ThriceShy]

I love contextual comparisons

I love polls that don't go the way the OP wanted them to:laugh:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Gina Rio ‏@iamGinaRio 2h2 hours ago
If @bbuk don't remove Andrew I'm never having anything to do with the show again #Troll #Racist #Prick

Andrew must be removed then, it's decided :clap1:

Sounds more of a reason to have him stay tbqh :fan: #TeamHazel

[Headie]

I love polls that don't go the way the OP wanted them to:laugh:

I already answered you're question from earlier, there was no way I "wanted it to go", and I'm perfectly happy with the poll result, that's what opinions are for :shrug:

[Headie]

Sounds more of a reason to have him stay tbqh :fan: ~TeamHazel

No, Gina must continue to grace us with her presence!

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[Ross.]

No, Gina must continue to grace us with her presence!

740905198059675649

wait I need to change my poll answer this has changed my mind

BB needs normal down to earth gal Gina!

[Jack_]

I already answered you're question from earlier, there was no way I "wanted it to go", and I'm perfectly happy with the poll result, that's what opinions are for :shrug:

Don't take the bait

[Headie]

Don't take the bait

https://66.media.tumblr.com/98c68d3423f988da4315b17db47d3afa/tumblr_o8i6dz8tLP1v9roxto5_400.gif

[Rob!]

Gina assuming she has power?

[LukeB]

It still makes me laugh that he thinks he is the most intelligent person :joker:

[Jack_]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/98c68d3423f988da4315b17db47d3afa/tumblr_o8i6dz8tLP1v9roxto5_400.gif

:joker:

[Ross.]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/98c68d3423f988da4315b17db47d3afa/tumblr_o8i6dz8tLP1v9roxto5_400.gif

:joker:

[LukeB]

It still makes me laugh that he thinks he is the most intelligent person :joker:

To add, he can have all the master degrees in the world and that still won't make him intelligent

[Marsh.]

LOL at still thinking the viewers are in control of this show.:laugh:

Who mentioned being in control of the show?

The viewers never have been.

In control of who leaves and who wins, yes. So tactics with the housemates against each other is pointless as it still comes down to a popularity contest with the viewers.

LOL:laugh:

[ThriceShy]

It still makes me laugh that he thinks he is the most intelligent person :joker:

He is. And he is the toughest too. Four time world kickboxing champion apparently.

[ThriceShy]

Who mentioned being in control of the show?

The viewers never have been.

In control of who leaves and who wins, yes. So tactics with the housemates against each other is pointless as it still comes down to a popularity contest with the viewers.

LOL:laugh:

LOL at still thinking the viewers are in control of who leaves and who wins this show.:laugh:

[Shaun]

He is. And he is the toughest too. Four time world kickboxing champion apparently.

Of course he is. He's told us he is, so that means he is, guys!

[Wizard.]

no he is a saint sent from heaven http://www.thechessdrum.net/newsbriefs/2015/NB_photos/Tatefamily.jpg

[ThriceShy]

Of course he is. He's told us he is, so that means he is, guys!

No, he really is. Sorry about that.

[Wizard.]

here for this tbh :clap1: https://twitter.com/TateTheTalisman/status/740525183715414016

[Ashsleigh]

He is. And he is the toughest too.

Oh good, that'll come in handy in the Big Brother house.

[Shaun]

No, he really is. Sorry about that.

Your faith in him is endearing.

[Marsh.]

LOL at still thinking the viewers are in control of who leaves and who wins this show.:laugh:

Aww, you're under the delusion the producers actually give a damn who wins? :pat:

[Shaun]

I'm still cackling at the idea that "man identifies himself as intelligent" + "a close-up of said man looking at a chessboard before knocking it in the air" (not too intelligent if you ask me, that's certainly not how you play) = clearly the most intelligent without giving so much as a second glance at Jayne or Chelsea with their business acumen or anybody's IQ.

[jaxie]

The problem I think when people are removed is that it makes the show too PC and removes characters the baying mob (us) might love to hate. I'd rather have the chance to evict if he proves to be obnoxious. It's more satisfying. Waves pitchfork.

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

I don't know what is more shocking, the fact that TiBB was used as a source or that this thread did not manage to get itself locked.

I'm glad it didn't though, good discussion