Is anybody else finding the twist far-fetched?

[Jason.]

I don't know, but it just feels a tad contrived to me. Like how it's all working together perfectly. How the Others have connections with the main housemates and vice versa yet they applied to be on BB the same year. The main housemates talking about the Other they are connected with in depth during the audition process - like why would anybody go on about their ex or old friend when applying for BB? Chelsea and Jayne supposedly falling out a few weeks ago when the BB auditions were months ago?

[Visage]

I can't figure out how they've made the connections.

Did they headhunt Jason because they had secured Charlie, or vice versa?

The same goes for the other two.




Then again I don't understand how the housemates are not aware of a second house when it's been on social media for a good few months.

[Ross.]

The main housemates not even questioning who is actually targeting them

[Ashley.]

It's all just a little bit strange.

[andybigbro]

Yeah it is very strange

Id be really anoyed if it's all fake

[LukeB]

I agree, Jayne and Chelsea falling out just before BB started made me think how is that even possible and a tad strange. I don't think the all the housemates know just the ones who have connections.

[Ashley.]

I still think the twist was unnecessary anyway to be honest, you could have just sent the twelve housemates in on Tuesday, the three connections on Friday and still get the same effect. I know they've put a lot of money and effort into the second house but I just find it pointless.

[Jason.]

I can't figure out how they've made the connections.

Did they headhunt Jason because they had secured Charlie, or vice versa?

The same goes for the other two.




Then again I don't understand how the housemates are not aware of a second house when it's been on social media for a good few months.

Exactly. I mean you could even tell by the fact that the stairs had two ways on launch night and they went through one way. It just doesn't feel right at all.

In terms of the head hunt thing that would mean one of them would have to have known about the other - which they didn't cause Charlie didn't know Jason was in the main house till they showed the VT and well the main don't know about the Others so Jason doesn't know about Charlie

[LukeB]

How can they not hear Ryan shouting his mouth off?

[bots]

It is all contrived and given that the 2nd house was being built and known about for months, the main house would need to have no brain cells at all to not acknowledge its existence .... at all :laugh:

I believe all bar 2? of the housemates were invited to take part in the show, so its all been manufactured over the last few months to fit a story line

[Visage]

Exactly. I mean you could even tell by the fact that the stairs had two ways on launch night and they went through one way. It just doesn't feel right at all.

Yes, it's almost like they are taking the mickey out of the viewers.


In terms of the head hunt thing that would mean one of them would have to have known about the other - which they didn't cause Charlie didn't know Jason was in the main house till they showed the VT and well the main don't know about the Others so Jason doesn't know about Charlie

It's all very cloak & dagger by the way they've put this to us.

[Jason.]

Also another thing r.e Chelsea and Jayne falling out a few weeks back - let's say they fell out 2 or 3 weeks ago for instance (cause Jayne kept implying it was quite recent). Surely the housemates get the call that they've become Big Brother housemates about a 4/5 weeks prior to the launch (sometimes even longer), so they hadn't even fallen out when they found out they were housemates unless C5 recruited them last minute or something.

Am I overthinking this? :worry:

[bots]

Also another thing r.e Chelsea and Jayne falling out a few weeks back - let's say they fell out 2 or 3 weeks ago for instance (cause Jayne kept implying it was quite recent). Surely the housemates get the call that they've become Big Brother housemates about a 4/5 weeks prior to the launch (sometimes even longer), so they hadn't even fallen out when they found out they were housemates unless C5 recruited them last minute or something.

Am I overthinking this? :worry:

Don't you also find it a little convenient that these are all very recent "relationships" in the last few weeks, all after they knew they were going to be on the show

[Marsh.]

Yeah, didn't Jason split up with the botox queen just recently?

[Marsh.]

I hate that this sh*te show is masquerading under the guise of Big Brother.

[Jason.]

Don't you also find it a little convenient that these are all very recent "relationships" in the last few weeks, all after they knew they were going to be on the show

Good point. They could've gotten people who'd split up like 3 years ago or something - that would also make them more surprised given they probably haven't seen them in years.

Judging by how 'recent' these relationships were they were probably all still together when the eye was revealed :idc:

[Shaun]

I'm more and more convinced that some housemates are just paid to play a role by the producers. It's inevitable.

[Cal.]

I find it really contrived also. But I've never understood how they manage to get people related on the same show without each other knowing. It seems scripted to me?

And the housemates have probably spoken about a second house but they're literally hiding everything from us this year apart from what appears in the highlight shows so they can literally present us with anything they want.

[hot2go]

Love the others twist but couldn't care less about the estranged couples....i hope it doesn't give those three the advantage over Natalie, Andrew and Hughe...

[Jason.]

I find it really contrived also. But I've never understood how they manage to get people related on the same show without each other knowing. It seems scripted to me?

And the housemates have probably spoken about a second house but they're literally hiding everything from us this year apart from what appears in the highlight shows so they can literally present us with anything they want.

Clock it!

Probably why they axed the nightly LF this series then :bored:

[Drew.]

This year more than they've ever done before they're doing their best to make sure fans have less knowledge of whats going on and being said in the house. Hardly any updates or decent videos and rushed highlights. It's almost like they're doing their hardest to make sure we don't find out things

[Jason.]

This year more than they've ever done before they're doing their best to make sure fans have less knowledge of whats going on and being said in the house. Hardly any updates or decent videos and rushed highlights. It's almost like they're doing their hardest to make sure we don't find out things

They're doing a crap job tbf

[Wizard.]

I thought all Others would have had connections it's very random that only 3 do.

[joeysteele]

The main housemates not even questioning who is actually targeting them

Well yes, that's a great point Ross. :joker:

[Jason.]

Yeah they're just being nominated randomly and they're like "ah well...what's for dinner". Who do they think is behind it all?

[Will.]

Im not sure really, like I doubt many of them knew about the extension unless they were fans of the show.

I doubt they know if there relatives were in the house, i'm sure most it was standard questions that everyone gets asked, like have you had past relationships etc.

And producers could just look through their FB to find out the names of the people ex's probably.

I'm sure someone has mentioned it in the house, there's probably loads of theories spinning round like most years. I'm sure they will have discussed the possibilities of more HM's entering etc.

[Ashley.]

I can't see any paranoia happening whatsoever... Big Brother's looking a little silly right now. :laugh:

[Jason.]

Im not sure really, like I doubt many of them knew about the extension unless they were fans of the show.

I doubt they know if there relatives were in the house, i'm sure most it was standard questions that everyone gets asked, like have you had past relationships etc.

And producers could just look through their FB to find out the names of the people ex's probably.

I'm sure someone has mentioned it in the house, there's probably loads of theories spinning round like most years. I'm sure they will have discussed the possibilities of more HM's entering etc.

I mean they don't even search the housemates' social media accounts to get an idea of how they are as a person / what racist/homophobic/bigoted views they may hold so I'd rule out the BIB

[Will.]

I mean they don't even search the housemates' social media accounts to get an idea of how they are as a person / what racist/homophobic/bigoted views they may hold so I'd rule out the BIB

Yeah perhaps, they might have just mentioned the ex's name when discussing it in auditions.

[Jason.]

But wouldn't they need more information though? Like you could easily say in your audition "oh I dated this girl called Charlie...she was awful blah blah", but there's hundreds of thousands of other women called Charlie - surely they'd need her surname, as well as other information such as contact details etc and why would anybody mention all that when discussing their ex during the auditions apart from the first name of that person?

[bots]

there is one thing we know about BB contestants. They like talking about themselves, themselves, themselves. Who on earth mentions ex's BY NAME :joker:

[Braden]

It's Channel 5 so not really :p

I actually like how it's playing out because the housemates in The Other House are doing a good job and are coming across quite entertaining and fun to watch.

[Will.]

But wouldn't they need more information though? Like you could easily say in your audition "oh I dated this girl called Charlie...she was awful blah blah", but there's hundreds of thousands of other women called Charlie - surely they'd need her surname, as well as other information such as telephone number, etc and why would anybody mention all that when discussing their ex during the auditions?

I guess they could have used their family members to contact the exs. I'm sure all HMs give like there parents contact or a close friend incase anything serious happened.

[Scream]

But wouldn't they need more information though? Like you could easily say in your audition "oh I dated this girl called Charlie...she was awful blah blah", but there's hundreds of thousands of other women called Charlie - surely they'd need her surname, as well as other information such as telephone number, etc and why would anybody mention all that when discussing their ex during the auditions?

On the application it asks for links to your social media and that is most likely how they've done it.

I don't think the both of them applied. I think Jason did and then they asked Charlie if she'd like to apply like they've done to a lot of people.

[Jason.]

On the application it asks for links to your social media and that is most likely how they've done it.

I don't think the both of them applied. I think Jason did and then they asked Charlie if she'd like to apply like they've done to a lot of people.

That sounds plausible - although I wonder if C5 are that smart. :laugh:

But then doesn't that bring into question about how recent all these break-ups were? (I think - Idk how long Charlie and Jason have been broken up for) but all these people seemed like they only split up like a month or so ago. Auditions for BB were back in January/February.

[Jason.]

I'm sorry but C5 need to release a lengthy statement about this like they did after Helen won!

[Will.]

I'm sure I heard someone say they have been very clever about doing this all with the relatives, it might have been Emma.

[Samm]

Nah, I think people are just thinking too much into it

[Scream]

I'm sure I heard someone say they have been very clever about doing this all with the relatives, it might have been Emma.

It was Rylan but I'd think it would be pretty easy to do. Most people put everything on social media.

Jason auditions. They ask him about his past relationships and his recent one. He says his ex was a nightmare. They find him on Facebook and see that his last ex was Charlie. They call her for an audition and she says Jason was a nightmare.

That's just one theory but it's pretty simple

[Jason.]

I'm sure I heard someone say they have been very clever about doing this all with the relatives, it might have been Emma.

If you believe things like that which come out from Emma's mouth, then you'll believe anything. Who's the person who's been bigging up every crap twist they've done in the past two years? Obviously she's not going to say they've done a crap job :laugh:

Nah, I think people are just thinking too much into it

Probably am tbh.

[Will.]

If you believe things like that which come out from Emma's mouth, then you'll believe anything. Who's the person who's been bigging up every crap twist they've done in the past two years.

yeah I guess

[ThriceShy]

The really sad thing about all this is that the target demographic (i.e. 15 year old girls on council estates with purple velour tracksuits and reconditioned iphones from argos) will lap all this up and not notice anything suspicious.

[jyunga]

They did it for BB8 in the US. It's really not hard to find people that are related/exes. They probably recruit a lot rather the just doing auditions.

[BB4fan]

It does seem odd. It seems almost scripted and an act.

This isn't Eastenders people its big brother.

[_Tom_]

Yeah I agree it's all very strange and far too convenient. Also - the HMs didn't even question why there were blank spaces on the HM photo wall? :shrug:

[jennyjuniper]

Also another thing r.e Chelsea and Jayne falling out a few weeks back - let's say they fell out 2 or 3 weeks ago for instance (cause Jayne kept implying it was quite recent). Surely the housemates get the call that they've become Big Brother housemates about a 4/5 weeks prior to the launch (sometimes even longer), so they hadn't even fallen out when they found out they were housemates unless C5 recruited them last minute or something.

Am I overthinking this? :worry:

No I don't think you are overthinking this. The trouble with BB and their infantile production crew is that they seem to treat us, the public, as not having one brain cell between us.

[Lwize]

A reality show that might not be real? Not possible.

[Clootie Dumpling]

What infuriates me about this is that it distracts me from just getting into enjoying the show.

It's like watching a group of dancers who are all dressed the same, except for one who isn't wearing any trousers, but there's no good explanation why.

Instead of enjoying the dance, you just keep thinking, "why has he got a bare arse?"

[Cherie]

I'm more and more convinced that some housemates are just paid to play a role by the producers. It's inevitable.

Yep and it's been like this for a few years, Ryan was a plant on the X and I think he is a plant in this

[TomC]

Last night made me realize how ridiculous this twist is. As you say, this is really far-fetched. I don't think it's set up tbh, but the fact it looks like it is is really annoying and offputting.

In addition, I'm not enjoying the House Divide. I just want them all to be integrated, and I'm sick of the bitching and plotting from the others. I want this twist to be over asap, I dont really care how much effort was put into the Other house tbh :joker:

[Clootie Dumpling]

Yes, the House Divide is a bit meaningless - we haven't got to know any of them well enough to be bothered about their little intrigues.

[Niamh.]

very contrived indeed, why the hell would Sam be talking about Ryan at all seriously? He's not even an ex just some guy he fell out with, makes zero sense

[chuff me dizzy]

Also another thing r.e Chelsea and Jayne falling out a few weeks back - let's say they fell out 2 or 3 weeks ago for instance (cause Jayne kept implying it was quite recent). Surely the housemates get the call that they've become Big Brother housemates about a 4/5 weeks prior to the launch (sometimes even longer), so they hadn't even fallen out when they found out they were housemates unless C5 recruited them last minute or something.

Am I overthinking this? :worry:

:clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

very contrived indeed, why the hell would Sam be talking about Ryan at all seriously? He's not even an ex just some guy he fell out with, makes zero sense

What convinced me was Sam saying "His name was Ryan " then like he had an earpiece ,jumped in with his surname,like he had been told he'd not said enough,as we know when hm8s over the years have spoken about family and friends outside they have blank out their names with bird tapes

[Jamie89]

I thought all Others would have had connections it's very random that only 3 do.
This is a good point, and it's probably a case for the pov that it's not a set up. It's probable that they wanted all the others to have connections but in the end couldn't make it work, for all the many reasons that people are stating as to why this twist isn't very plausible. Maybe there were a lot of last minute changes.

Something I noticed on launch that might mean nothing, but during Evelyns vt, she was shown to be interviewed in the background that had black balloons (like the others) instead of multi coloured balloons (like the main hm's), which suggests she was initially meant to be an other but there was a last minute change (unless I'm completely off the mark about the balloon thing lol)

Anyway that suggests to me that it's probably not a scripted set up, planned out totally in advance, and there was probably a lot happening and changing in the days leading up to launch to try and make it work best as possible

[chriskicks]

im just getting a bit confused because i dont know what the 'game' is. we all knew how traditional big brother was: housemates nominate someone with a reason, then the public vote one out. so how does this game work? because if it's a constant meddle each week then i'm not on board. i want a method to this.

we still have no idea how nominations work or if they are even being used. we don't know if we evict housemates or others. we don't how housemates get demoted, or others get promoted. we don't know anything about it. i like the basic idea of this concept but what is the 'game' being played here? 'wreak havoc and paranoia'. ok sure. so they can choose to nominate housemates.. but the housemates are sitting ducks for the entire season? i hope they fleshed it out a little more than this.

i'm giving them some slack for the first week of letting the public choose who they want to be part of the others, and giving us some control, but i expect some semblance of a 'game' by the end of the first eviction twist.

[TomC]

This is a good point, and it's probably a case for the pov that it's not a set up. It's probable that they wanted all the others to have connections but in the end couldn't make it work, for all the many reasons that people are stating as to why this twist isn't very plausible. Maybe there were a lot of last minute changes.

Something I noticed on launch that might mean nothing, but during Evelyns vt, she was shown to be interviewed in the background that had black balloons (like the others) instead of multi coloured balloons (like the main hm's), which suggests she was initially meant to be an other but there was a last minute change (unless I'm completely off the mark about the balloon thing lol)

Anyway that suggests to me that it's probably not a scripted set up, planned out totally in advance, and there was probably a lot happening and changing in the days leading up to launch to try and make it work best as possible

Marco and Georgina had black balloons too, maybe some others, whereas Ryan had coloured ones, so I don't think it's indicative :)

[Jamie89]

im just getting a bit confused because i dont know what the 'game' is. we all knew how traditional big brother was: housemates nominate someone with a reason, then the public vote one out. so how does this game work? because if it's a constant meddle each week then i'm not on board. i want a method to this.

we still have no idea how nominations work or if they are even being used. we don't know if we evict housemates or others. we don't how housemates get demoted, or others get promoted. we don't know anything about it. i like the basic idea of this concept but what is the 'game' being played here? 'wreak havoc and paranoia'. ok sure. so they can choose to nominate housemates.. but the housemates are sitting ducks for the entire season? i hope they fleshed it out a little more than this.

i'm giving them some slack for the first week of letting the public choose who they want to be part of the others, and giving us some control, but i expect some semblance of a 'game' by the end of the first eviction twist.
Yeah same for me. I'm on board with the 'new game' and giving it a chance but I'd like to know the overall concept and what the long term plan is. I don't like that the viewers are kept in the dark. It might be a case that they don't fully know themselves yet though. They might have a number of plans and are picking and choosing what they're doing depending on how certain 'twists' work out.

[Jamie89]

Marco and Georgina had black balloons too, maybe some others, whereas Ryan had coloured ones, so I don't think it's indicative :)
Ah I didn't realise that. There goes my miss marple career :([emoji23]

[Gusto Brunt]

It's the interviews I find weird. They get Jason and Sam to talk about two people in their lives.

The very same people who are now in the BB house.

It's so obviously a fix.

[zakman440]

I know most of you don't want to hear it, but I think we all know what they could do to make it a little more honest...

Live Feed :sorry:

[Northern Monkey]

Of course it's all set up,It'd be virtually impossible to do it otherwise.This show's been getting more soap opera every year since C5 took over.I don't watch it actually thinking it's real it's just abit of fun these days to be taken with a large pinch of salt.

[Oaker]

As long as it's entertaining I don't care if it's fixed/scripted/whatever

[erinp5]

Every year we get the HMs speculating about another house , questioning if the public are nominating but this lot... not a word! Live feed axed to be replaced by social media and they axe live updates via twitter from the house. We get little to no info now, we have no clue what they do in the house.

[chuff me dizzy]

Every year we get the HMs speculating about another house , questioning if the public are nominating but this lot... not a word! Live feed axed to be replaced by social media and they axe live updates via twitter from the house. We get little to no info now, we have no clue what they do in the house.

Only way to show our disgust is do not vote,hit them in their pocket

[chuff me dizzy]

It's the interviews I find weird. They get Jason and Sam to talk about two people in their lives.

The very same people who are now in the BB house.

It's so obviously a fix.

:clap1: All the other things they could have spoken about too

[Alf]

I hate that this sh*te show is masquerading under the guise of Big Brother.I was gonna say something similar to this.