View Full Version : Andrew ruined his own plan
jaxie
11-06-2016, 09:39 PM
Andrew could have went into the house and been super friendly then got a couple of them aside and said 'They are all backstabbing snakes apart from you.' The another 2 and so on over the next few days. Instead he literally walks into the house, says sit down everyone and then says 8 of your are snakes. Epic Fail. :facepalm:
He really isn't as smart as he thinks he is, is he?
Andrew could have went into the house and been super friendly then got a couple of them aside and said 'They are all backstabbing snakes apart from you.' The another 2 and so on over the next few days. Instead he literally walks into the house, says sit down everyone and then says 8 of your are snakes. Epic Fail. :facepalm:
He really isn't as smart as he thinks he is, is he?
His 'gameplay' is pathetic. He's quite thick really.
Northern Monkey
12-06-2016, 12:33 AM
You say that but then look what happened.It may not have seemed smart but i think he got exactly what he wanted.Chaos.He blew the house apart within minutes.
Lstan
12-06-2016, 01:00 AM
His 'gameplay' is pathetic. He's quite thick really.
Yep-hes not as smart as he thinks he is and he cant keep stum for 5 minutes. What a buffoon.
Tom4784
12-06-2016, 01:14 AM
He's pretty dumb to try something like that and his backpeddling later on was desperate.
You say that but then look what happened.It may not have seemed smart but i think he got exactly what he wanted.Chaos.He blew the house apart within minutes.
He did nothing but claim credit for it. Ryan caused that upset, everyone just laughed and walked away from Andrew. He was a complete failure.
Lstan
12-06-2016, 01:18 AM
Andrew could have went into the house and been super friendly then got a couple of them aside and said 'They are all backstabbing snakes apart from you.' The another 2 and so on over the next few days. Instead he literally walks into the house, says sit down everyone and then says 8 of your are snakes. Epic Fail. :facepalm:
He really isn't as smart as he thinks he is, is he?
MTE Jaxie! Thats how I would have done it although I dont think I have the heart to or his rotten personality who BB obviously chose to cast this year. He was like a kid who cant keep a secret and for what people said about Ryan at least he got their story straight (we were kept in seclusion for a week) bloody andrew couldnt wait to open his stupid gob and call people snakes. Doesnt take much smarts to do that! Now everyone is suspicious of him and Ryan.
Gameplayer my arse!
mr rochester
12-06-2016, 09:51 AM
Yep-hes not as smart as he thinks he is and he cant keep stum for 5 minutes. What a buffoon.
He speaks only when necessary. The rest of the time he listens and observes carefully. That is a smart thing to do. He was sent in to cause paranoia and chaos. Seems like he succeeded.
MarcusMel
12-06-2016, 10:04 AM
He speaks only when necessary. The rest of the time he listens and observes carefully. That is a smart thing to do. He was sent in to cause paranoia and chaos. Seems like he succeeded.
And had a get out of trouble plan too. 'ask why a new HM would say what I did' or some such sequence of words.
And had a get out of trouble plan too. 'ask why a new HM would say what I did' or some such sequence of words.
In other words 'don't be paranoid and hate me, I didn't mean it,I was only doing what they asked'. What a cool customer - not. :laugh:
MarcusMel
12-06-2016, 10:14 AM
In other words 'don't be paranoid and hate me, I didn't mean it,I was only doing what they asked'. What a cool customer - not. :laugh:
Could be. Truth is so hard to pin down and be certain of. All we can do to fight misconception is to ask what is the assumption here?
hot2go
12-06-2016, 10:17 AM
He took the roof off...he evicted the two peace makers, he opened fire on the house, he sent the twins into meltdown and he sat back and watched as the two self acclaimed alpha males ran away....he's a legend
hot2go
12-06-2016, 10:19 AM
Never in the history of BB has a brand new house mate gone in and just owned the place like that....they were all either crying, shouting or dancing ring a ring a roses like naughty little children....he totally was in full control of each and every one of them...it was awesome
He wasn't in control, he couldn't see where he was going because his heads so far up his arse.
I detest him.
Nicky91
12-06-2016, 10:43 AM
well he isn't very smart, and his ''gameplaying'' is truly pathetic :laugh:
i really hope they fail their task, and get nominated as a punishment :)
Never in the history of BB has a brand new house mate gone in and just owned the place like that....they were all either crying, shouting or dancing ring a ring a roses like naughty little children....he totally was in full control of each and every one of them...it was awesome
How? By saying the words '8 of you are snakes' and then letting them know it was part of a game - "ask a new HM why they would say what they did" when he felt the heat? :joker:
Ryan caused more mayhem and stress by far.
waterhog
12-06-2016, 11:06 AM
I think this was brill - and to see him isolated now will only make his plan harder to forfill with them all against him.
he was not saying nothing that was not true but he has shot himself in his foot.
when playing cards - keep them close to your chest would have been my advice to him.
I think this was brill - and to see him isolated now will only make his plan harder to forfill with them all against him.
he was not saying nothing that was not true but he has shot himself in his foot.
when playing cards - keep them close to your chest would have been my advice to him.
This ^
There was nothing smart or tactical in blurting out the well worn cliche 'snakes' when he wasn't even supposed to have seen any of them before. He played his hand in five minutes and now he has nowhere left to go. So much for coolness, observing and playing the long game.
waterhog
12-06-2016, 11:33 AM
This ^
There was nothing smart or tactical in blurting out the well worn cliche 'snakes' when he wasn't even supposed to have seen any of them before. He played his hand in five minutes and now he has nowhere left to go. So much for coolness, observing and playing the long game.
jet you may be right - and if he is permantly excluded from the group and can not riggle in - then you are 100% right -
but
I predict it will not go like that
someone will have mercy on him and form a click and the game will get going even better.
lets wait and see.
sungrass
12-06-2016, 11:36 AM
Andrew could have went into the house and been super friendly then got a couple of them aside and said 'They are all backstabbing snakes apart from you.' The another 2 and so on over the next few days. Instead he literally walks into the house, says sit down everyone and then says 8 of your are snakes. Epic Fail. :facepalm:
He really isn't as smart as he thinks he is, is he?
Thats a really good point - he might be slightly aspie
MarcusMel
12-06-2016, 11:37 AM
I like the way he handled the Others and explained to them the real task he and 'luney'(Ryan) have now to do. On the news feed on channel 5
jet you may be right - and if he is permantly excluded from the group and can not riggle in - then you are 100% right -
but
I predict it will not go like that
someone will have mercy on him and form a click and the game will get going even better.
lets wait and see.
I hope you're right. Otherwise its going to be a non starter and very disappointing.
I like the way he handled the Others and explained to them the real task he and 'luney'(Ryan) have now to do. On the news feed on channel 5
He is so damn arrogant. 'Everyone sit down!' and Jackson looks like he's thinking "who the hell do you think you are" and stays standing. Love Jackson. :hee:
Patricia4
12-06-2016, 12:11 PM
I don't like this guy.
hot2go
12-06-2016, 12:13 PM
How? By saying the words '8 of you are snakes' and then letting them know it was part of a game - "ask a new HM why they would say what they did" when he felt the heat? :joker:
Ryan caused more mayhem and stress by far.
Everything about last night was reminiscent of Victor in BB5, Rex in BB 6 and the BB 9 fight night that are now referred to by many as BB gold.....Both Andrew and Ryan played their roles perfectly and unusually exactly how they said they would....not how BB told them they should but instead how they told BB they would....I don't like Ryan at all but I can only bow to how he performed last night and as for Andrew, I love everything he's doing
hot2go
12-06-2016, 12:20 PM
I don't like this guy.
Do you need to like though ? It can be fun to appreciate the ones you don't like as well as the ones we do....I really dislike Ryan but the little sh-t was brilliant last night and showed a lot of guts...not easy to go and do what they did last night...
MarcusMel
12-06-2016, 12:21 PM
He is so damn arrogant. 'Everyone sit down!' and Jackson looks like he's thinking "who the hell do you think you are" and stays standing. Love Jackson. :hee:
Its a point of vew. Now analyse why he had to say that. Did you miss the 'I don't have much time'? Did you not see how they were not concentrating and he needed them to focus quickly.
Of course Jackson did not immediatly react, Andrew put him in this 'Others' position (awkward!) yet quickly and clearly stated the task and they all understood and ready to act as a group.
I would look a touch aragant if I could get attention and focus from people when I wanted it.
But truth is so hard to pin down all we can do is question assumptions.
Its a point of vew. Now analyse why he had to say that. Did you miss the 'I don't have much time'? Did you not see how they were not concentrating and he needed them to focus quickly.
Of course Jackson did not immediatly react, Andrew put him in this 'Others' position (awkward!) yet quickly and clearly stated the task and they all understood and ready to act as a group.
I would look a touch aragant if I could get attention and focus from people when I wanted it.
But truth is so hard to pin down all we can do is question assumptions.
He's always arrogant. And cold. And has no personality.
Everything about last night was reminiscent of Victor in BB5, Rex in BB 6 and the BB 9 fight night that are now referred to by many as BB gold.....Both Andrew and Ryan played their roles perfectly and unusually exactly how they said they would....not how BB told them they should but instead how they told BB they would....I don't like Ryan at all but I can only bow to how he performed last night and as for Andrew, I love everything he's doing
That's not what most think. Andrew blew it. He even practically told the HM's that he didn't mean it when he called them snakes, it was all part of a game - which they weren't supposed to know anything about.
What are his tactics in doing that?
MarcusMel
12-06-2016, 12:51 PM
He's always arrogant. And cold. And has no personality.
:hee:
Well thats an improvement from 'damm arragant' :hee: :joker:
hot2go
12-06-2016, 01:45 PM
That's not what most think. Andrew blew it. He even practically told the HM's that he didn't mean it when he called them snakes, it was all part of a game - which they weren't supposed to know anything about.
What are his tactics in doing that?
I don't know what his tactics are but he's obv used tactics in kick boxing and chess championships so he will def have tactics for BB....if they'll be successful we've yet to see but so far they have been....what he said on his VT and what he assured he would do to the house within 10 minutes of arriving was exactly what he did....Andrew and Ryan threw hand grenades into that house last night and it exploded right in front of their eyes.....personally I couldn't take my eyes off what followed their entrance into the main house and I doubt that was the point when other viewing went to make a cup of tea either.
-punch punch-
-kick kick-
I'm a game player lol
sampvt
12-06-2016, 01:59 PM
Someone said he is gay, is that true, he hasn't shown his hand in the house yet as far as I am aware
I don't know what his tactics are but he's obv used tactics in kick boxing and chess championships so he will def have tactics for BB....if they'll be successful we've yet to see but so far they have been....what he said on his VT and what he assured he would do to the house within 10 minutes of arriving was exactly what he did....Andrew and Ryan threw hand grenades into that house last night and it exploded right in front of their eyes.....personally I couldn't take my eyes off what followed their entrance into the main house and I doubt that was the point when other viewing went to make a cup of tea either.
But anyone could have come in and said '8 of you are snakes', and that was it. It was nothing special. Any thicko could manage that. No subtlety, no keeping his cards close to his chest. He even backtracked when he felt the heat. It was Ryan who really caused the explosion. :shrug:
hot2go
12-06-2016, 03:06 PM
But anyone could have come in and said '8 of you are snakes', and that was it. It was nothing special. Any thicko could manage that. No subtlety, no keeping his cards close to his chest. He even backtracked when he felt the heat. It was Ryan who really caused the explosion. :shrug:
I don't think just anyone could come in and do that, I think it takes a certain type of person to have the balls to do that and very few in the past have ...the idea that it was nothing special yet caused an immediate reaction is what makes it special....that a few words said with conviction without even raising his voice could get a response like it did makes it very special in my eyes....but we don't all have the same eyes...and as for Ryan, his approach was opposite to Andrew so between them they had both angles covered...Ryan was equally as good as Andrew last night, even if I don't like him he was without doubt good viewing last night.
Tom4784
12-06-2016, 03:09 PM
I don't think just anyone could come in and do that, I think it takes a certain type of person to have the balls to do that and very few in the past have ...the idea that it was nothing special yet caused an immediate reaction is what makes it special....that a few words said with conviction without even raising his voice could get a response like it did makes it very special in my eyes....but we don't all have the same eyes...and as for Ryan, his approach was opposite to Andrew so between them they had both angles covered...Ryan was equally as good as Andrew last night, even if I don't like him he was without doubt good viewing last night.
No, anyone could have done that and anyone with a brain could have done it better.
You're waxing lyrical about something that ultimately had no effect on the house and put Andrew into a bad position. Everbody laughed in his face and left him to his failure.
Andrew did nothing but take the credit.
hot2go
12-06-2016, 03:14 PM
If the main house believe that they are all friends and there could never be any back stabbing taking place they would have dismissed what he said....I think their knee jerk reaction showed the opposite ...that each one was asking themselves who the 8 back stabbers are and are they themselves coming across as one....I think that was what Andrew achieved...that he could plant doubt so quickly and so easily in their minds...
Tom4784
12-06-2016, 03:16 PM
If the main house believe that they are all friends and there could never be any back stabbing taking place they would have dismissed what he said....I think their knee jerk reaction showed the opposite ...that each one was asking themselves who the 8 back stabbers are and are they themselves coming across as one....I think that was what Andrew achieved...that he could plant doubt so quickly and so easily in their minds...
Reaching tbh.
Nobody bought it because he was just a stranger to them that was obviously trying to stir **** up. If he was as smart as he claimed he would have waited until they trusted him to start ****ing with them.
If the main house believe that they are all friends and there could never be any back stabbing taking place they would have dismissed what he said....I think their knee jerk reaction showed the opposite ...that each one was asking themselves who the 8 back stabbers are and are they themselves coming across as one....I think that was what Andrew achieved...that he could plant doubt so quickly and so easily in their minds...
Their knee jerk reaction showed they thought "who the hell is this joker coming in here talking shi*". They very quickly dismissed what he said and he helped them along by backtracking. Far from being special, it was a big soggy limp flop. I just don't see the greatness in him and the genius that you see, sorry. :shrug:
Garfie
12-06-2016, 03:29 PM
jet you may be right - and if he is permantly excluded from the group and can not riggle in - then you are 100% right -
but
I predict it will not go like that
someone will have mercy on him and form a click and the game will get going even better.
lets wait and see.
I got the impression that he thought Ryan had blown it, so wanted to create a distraction which was why he moved them away from Ryan.
It could be that his snake comments will have done enough to make the housemates begin to question and doubt each other- conversations tonight will tell.
It could also be that some of the more insecure ones will want to question him further about those comments, and be quite easily manipulated by what he says.
As you say, we'll have to wait and see.
hot2go
12-06-2016, 03:38 PM
Their knee jerk reaction showed they thought "who the hell is this joker coming in here talking shi*". They very quickly dismissed what he said and he helped them along by backtracking. Far from being special, it was a big soggy limp flop. I just don't see the greatness in him and the genius that you see, sorry. :shrug:
Tell ya what, I'll send him over to you for the weekend and you send Gemma Collins over to me...and we can do a study programme ....like a cultural exchange ...only without any culture :laugh:
Garfie
12-06-2016, 03:47 PM
I don't know what his tactics are but he's obv used tactics in kick boxing and chess championships so he will def have tactics for BB....if they'll be successful we've yet to see but so far they have been....what he said on his VT and what he assured he would do to the house within 10 minutes of arriving was exactly what he did....Andrew and Ryan threw hand grenades into that house last night and it exploded right in front of their eyes.....personally I couldn't take my eyes off what followed their entrance into the main house and I doubt that was the point when other viewing went to make a cup of tea either.
I agree - he will definitely have tactics.
Your description is spot-on. It was indeed like they'd thrown hand grenades and everyone disintegrated around them within minutes of their arrival.
Definitely had a massive impact.
The tactics he uses to follow up now will determine his success in dividing and conquering, and earning his place as a housemate. One thing is for sure, the peace and harmony of the main house has been shattered and the fall out should be interesting to watch.
Tell ya what, I'll send him over to you for the weekend and you send Gemma Collins over to me...and we can do a study programme ....like a cultural exchange ...only without any culture :laugh:
:fist: :joker:
Livia
12-06-2016, 04:20 PM
He's typical of the kind of person who has to keep telling you how intelligent they are. Usually... they're not.
Livia
12-06-2016, 04:22 PM
Their knee jerk reaction showed they thought "who the hell is this joker coming in here talking shi*". They very quickly dismissed what he said and he helped them along by backtracking. Far from being special, it was a big soggy limp flop. I just don't see the greatness in him and the genius that you see, sorry. :shrug:
Genius LOL...
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